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Cleric JohnPreston
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Posted - 2006.06.09 09:49:00 -
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Great another new low for eve as if the scamming in local or escrow wasnt enough. Is this legal ? Anyways, do I complain to someone or just delete them ?
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Eight8Eight
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Posted - 2006.06.09 09:50:00 -
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You should be able to take screenshots of the mail and post them here and hopfully that would be proof of wrong doing.
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Cleric JohnPreston
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Posted - 2006.06.09 09:51:00 -
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Originally by: Eight8Eight You should be able to take screenshots of the mail and post them here and hopfully that would be proof of wrong doing.
What do i have to post it here for? You think i made it up :P
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Ubad
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Posted - 2006.06.09 09:52:00 -
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I got one when I was in Rens as well from, fhjuoop
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Baldour Ngarr
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Posted - 2006.06.09 09:52:00 -
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Don't delete them - file a harassment petition. ________________________________________________
"I tried strip mining, but I lost, and it's cold flying around in space naked." |

Infinity Ziona
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Posted - 2006.06.09 09:52:00 -
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I got one today too.
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Vaugue
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Posted - 2006.06.09 09:54:00 -
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Yep i got one too... this is a growing issue in all MMO's... I still play EQ2 with my wife and i get many private messages a week now regarding world currency for game money. Sometimes multiple times a day. and my mail box is loaded with them. ========================= Why use a forum to auction when you can sell it on Eve-Bay!
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Cleric JohnPreston
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Posted - 2006.06.09 09:56:00 -
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Originally by: Ubad I got one when I was in Rens as well from, fhjuoop
the other guy sis Dadfawe
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Eight8Eight
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Posted - 2006.06.09 10:05:00 -
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Originally by: Cleric JohnPreston
Originally by: Eight8Eight You should be able to take screenshots of the mail and post them here and hopfully that would be proof of wrong doing.
What do i have to post it here for? You think i made it up :P
The reason you have to post them here or anywhere for that matter is that any accusation has to be backed up by PROOF, the devs won't belive you if you don't have factual proof. I don't think they are going to ban people just on your word alone. If that were the case I could get everyone in the game banned for no reason at all.
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Tsavong Lah
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Posted - 2006.06.09 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: Tsavong Lah on 09/06/2006 10:09:03
Originally by: Cleric JohnPreston Dadfawe
Mine was from the same person, under a day old, probably from a trial account so it can't be traced.
I filed a Harassment petition and received a reply within 5 minutes.
Regarding the "proof" thing, just don't delete the mail - if the GMs can see it in your inbox, that's proof enough as AFAIK it's not possible to spoof an evemail sender.
Death is the loss of hope, everything else is merely despair.
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Eleri Bree
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Posted - 2006.06.09 10:08:00 -
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Perhaps if everytime we recieve one we petition a complaint, something might get done. Nothing like a few hundred/thousand petitions to make a point.
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Flash Landsraad
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Posted - 2006.06.09 10:09:00 -
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Is there anyway a thread can be created where new posts appear at the top. We can post links to screenshots of ISK selling mails from ISK farmers in there with the message and character names clear. Any posts in the thread that are not ISK selling screens are deleted. All characters with their names shown clearly beside these mails have their accounts deleted. All files must be in .png format so that tampering can't be blamed on JPEG compression distortion?
This a plausible idea?
I also think that if they have time someone in CCP should post here with a quick comment on what is being done, because frankly I don't think anything is being done about it. There are hundreds of blatent acts of ISK macroing all around the major empire systems, and petitions about these ISK selling evemails do not lead to any result. I wouldn't be supprised if those that handled petitions were told to ignore those about ISK sellers to be honest.
My two pence.
Stop Whining!
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Ivan Kirilenkov

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Posted - 2006.06.09 10:10:00 -
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Advice and word from the higher echelons is to petition it, and they will look into it.
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Eskona Runningstar
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Posted - 2006.06.09 10:12:00 -
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Originally by: Cleric JohnPreston Great another new low for eve as if the scamming in local or escrow wasnt enough. Is this legal ? Anyways, do I complain to someone or just delete them ?
No, selling ISK for real-life cash is against the EULA and will get you perma-banned. Keep the mail in your inbox, then file a harassment petition stating what happened. The mail in your inbox should be proof enough (since you cant fake data on CCP servers), while a screenshot posted on the forums could be faked (which is why most MMO publishers dont accept screenshots as proof).
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Sensor Error
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Posted - 2006.06.09 10:15:00 -
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Just hit f12, and file a petition for it. The account will get banned almost immediately. The accounts that are used for announcing are very rarely used for the macroing itself, so CCP can ban em right away.
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Silane Daktor
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Posted - 2006.06.09 10:20:00 -
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Yep, petition it under harassment; I just had one from an under one day old char. Petitioned, and had a response within 20 minutes
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El Nemico
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Posted - 2006.06.09 10:28:00 -
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Originally by: Cleric JohnPreston Great another new low for eve as if the scamming in local or escrow wasnt enough. Is this legal ? Anyways, do I complain to someone or just delete them ?
If someone did that to me, I`d use my locator agent, track them down and pay some mercs to kill them as many times over as i got that bloody spam...
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Cantari
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Posted - 2006.06.09 10:48:00 -
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I also recieved one of these messages.
I pettioned it as expected and im sure the gm are doing the utmost to stop these people.
Best way of stopping it is to hbuild a personal ingame channel and set all to auto refuse. write in your bio that if people want to contact you via eve mail or convo to drop into your channel and ask for permission to go onto your allowed lists.
A long winded way of doing it but it works.
Cantari
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.06.09 11:04:00 -
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Petition is youre friend. Those characters are banned (id also like those IPs banned) otherwise deletion is the best bet - they are annoying but block and deletion works best.
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Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2006.06.09 11:05:00 -
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I got one last night and filed an exploit pettition. A GM responded withen 4 minutes. Bet that turkey is makeing a new account now.....
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We are not ebil forum police, for one thing I don't have a hat :( - Cortes |

R3dSh1ft
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Posted - 2006.06.09 11:07:00 -
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cspa is your friend ______________________________________
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Maya Rkell
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Posted - 2006.06.09 12:39:00 -
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Originally by: Miss Overlord Petition is youre friend. Those characters are banned (id also like those IPs banned) otherwise deletion is the best bet - they are annoying but block and deletion works best.
They're probably using open proxies, so IP banning won't really help 
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fuze
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Posted - 2006.06.09 13:12:00 -
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In the end there is only one thing that helps.
Don't buy iskies outside Eve (except for GTC). Then again there are enough *ssholes who simply don't care. |

Sergeant Spot
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Posted - 2006.06.09 13:20:00 -
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ATTENTION CCP:
Stop the Isk Selling Mail Spam.
I do not care how you do it. Just do it.
FIND A WAY.
Change the entire game mail system. Rewrite code. Do MAJOR code rewrites. If you don't have a way to do it, then MAKE ONE.
If the method CREATED permanently destroys all Isk selling, that is nice. Just make sure I never see advertisement Spam from strangers in my in-box ever again (Sales Spam from the main accounts of Merchants I deal with is cool, Sales Spam from alts is not acceptable. End it.)
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Lori Carlyle
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Posted - 2006.06.09 13:21:00 -
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Edited by: Lori Carlyle on 09/06/2006 13:21:16 Just get them to add Credit Card details the you making a trial account, Dont' take any cash from it through.
Sorted.
PINK PINK PINK PINK PINK ERISGREEN
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Dao 2
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Posted - 2006.06.09 13:22:00 -
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i doubt proof is needed.... cause if its sent through mail GMs SHOULD have those logs, like u no they can check them for timecode and char scams and stuff, but they can't check all the mail obviously ;p so if you alert them towards the person they can check :D ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p)
the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that
Also the gal |

Dao 2
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Posted - 2006.06.09 13:22:00 -
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i doubt proof is needed.... cause if its sent through mail GMs SHOULD have those logs, like u no they can check them for timecode and char scams and stuff, but they can't check all the mail obviously ;p so if you alert them towards the person they can check :D ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p)
the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that
Also the gal |

Sergeant Spot
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Posted - 2006.06.09 13:24:00 -
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Originally by: Lori Carlyle Edited by: Lori Carlyle on 09/06/2006 13:21:16 Just get them to add Credit Card details the you making a trial account, Dont' take any cash from it through.
Sorted.
Better idea: Put in the EULA that if they violate Isk selling rules, even on a trial account, that CCP is authorized to charge a full account fee, AND ban the account.
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Bunny Wunny
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Posted - 2006.06.09 13:29:00 -
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the IP address they login using is logged, so they can be blocked too
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Edgars Sults
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Posted - 2006.06.09 14:13:00 -
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I got that ISK selling mail too. not from the guy you mentioned here, but that's not important. sent a harrassment petition, pasted the mail in teh description, ccp sorted it out.
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