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kirean3464
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Posted - 2014.06.11 19:52:00 -
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Ok guys this is not a flame post or anything like that i am simply asking other peoples opinions.
Personally i feel like eve online has been stagnating for a very long time every up coming patch we seem to get
a really cool video and that is about it, i mean walk on stations, walk on planets, opening the market to the dust bunnies
ring mining, i feel like every patch that comes out its holy crap this looks awesome and what we actually get is possibly some new ships and then endless ship balances and ui tweeks. i mean all good stuff all important stuff but its nothing more to do i mean if your pvping thats one thing its all about the kills and the fleets etc but what if your not?
Anyone mining has to choices either hope the nice low or null sec guys wont charge you to much or shoot you or keep hoping 6 dudes in catalysts dont show up to show you why carebearing is bad. Miners need some serious buffing i mean i have mined for a long time myself and unless you fly a skiff and are willing to sacrifice yeild your nothing but a gank target and thats only every a matter of time.
why would you mine with the risk of ganks the effort of selling minerals when you can just train a logi and roll into incursions which are down to such a art form there is hardly point in doing anything else to make money and the changes to the mining barges unless i messed up my maths does nothing at all so id like to see miners get something to defend themselves with against gankers ma-by some deploy able that jams when the barge gets hit or something id like to see ring mining being implemented to break the monopoly on moons since it was supposed to give moon minerals something to make mining engaging and actually worth it.
incursions i would defiantly like to see get mixed up maby some new units added to it or maby something like a tower that shoots back just something that makes it a little more interesting than shoot in the right order collect insane reward repeat mining used to be the nice safe money now its incursions and its a lot more profitable there isn't much to say on that subject as i mentioned its down to a fine art now.
pvp i am by no means one to talk about it i have not done enough of it to have an opinion i am pretty much sat farming incursions until i have all my skills at max level and all the shiny pvp ships i want before i go to learn the only point i would like to suggest on that front is when it comes to station or pos bashing i think it would be fun to let the dust bunnies take it over with you something like rip down the shields and then launch a drop ship in full of dust guys and if yours win they blow up the strontium supply, or allow them to take down poccos or something to make them active in the game but thats just an idea
as for the dust guys they simply need the market opened to us in my opinion, i play dust or at least i used to until i came to realize that even apart from the game being totally unbalanced its impossible to afford equipment ask any dust guy and they will tell you all they ever spend money on is there gun, even my guy if i was to use my best gear i cant die for the next 14 rounds if i want to break even on that expense. now i know the usual argument is "that will destroy the market" but frankly i don't think it will. there have been lots of things in eve that could have broken the market and didnt ice being changed, goonies hunting ice miners, ridiculous prices for moon materials i mean every time there is "market breaking" stuff it balances out in 2-3 weeks and there is no reason it couldn't for dust id certainly play it again if i knew i had orbital backup and someone giving me a fair contract and supplying my gear whats a fortune in dust is chicken feed in eve and it wouldn't be case of one over powering the other because you can only have so many players on a dust side and the smallest corp in eve vs the biggest can still keep that group perfectly geared up.
as for valkrye obviously nothing much to say about that but i kinda hope it becomes a option rather than a stand alone game what i mean to say is ok i can fly my abbadon the way i normally do in eve or i can switch to "valkrye" view when i get into my frigate and go nuts and of course that opens the option to the drop ship thing we were always supposed to have in dust.
i guess to sum this up i wish more content would start getting delivered into the game with more options for pilots i mean if i do anything outside incursions right now in eve im doing it for the joy of it not the money and that's kind of sad which is why im pretty much not playing right now apart from plexing and keeping my skill queue going.
again not a flame thread im simply asking peoples opinions i love eve i have been playing for years and i will never truly stop playing but i have a genuine worry that something like star citizen will come out and just outclass us and i am sad to say it the way things are going now i feel there is a real possibility of that happening since we appear to get movies of awesome content and that's about it.
thanks for reading this looking forward to reading |
Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.06.11 19:54:00 -
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kirean3464 wrote: i feel like eve online has been stagnating for a very long time
I disgree
How long have you been playing for, if I may ask?
(If its in that text-wall, I couldnt be bothered looking for it, sorry)
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Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
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Posted - 2014.06.11 19:57:00 -
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I used the Search Function and was unable to find your point.
Can a brother get a TL:DR up in here?
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Karen Avioras
Unsung Heroes
Spaceship Samurai
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:00:00 -
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kirean3464 wrote: i have a genuine worry that something like star citizen will come out and just outclass us ng
Not going to happen. |
Bridgette d'Iberville
Better Killing Through Chemistry
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:01:00 -
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What did capital letters ever do to you?
"I considered a career in griefing, but then realized that I would never achieve the level of tear generation that CCP manages to do each and every expansion." |
kirean3464
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:01:00 -
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ok just for people who are incapable of reading
TL:DR =
i guess to sum this up i wish more content would start getting delivered into the game with more options for pilots i mean if i do anything outside incursions right now in eve im doing it for the joy of it not the money and that's kind of sad which is why im pretty much not playing right now apart from plexing and keeping my skill queue going.
again not a flame thread im simply asking peoples opinions i love eve i have been playing for years and i will never truly stop playing but i have a genuine worry that something like star citizen will come out and just outclass us and i am sad to say it the way things are going now i feel there is a real possibility of that happening since we appear to get movies of awesome content and that's about it.
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Rin Valador
Sovereign Colonies Armed Forces
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:04:00 -
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"Stagnating"
Stopped there. Every day has been new for me and I have not stopped having fun for over two years now in EvE.
"There will be neither compassion nor mercy;
Nor peace, nor solace
For those who bear witness to these Signs
And still do not believe."
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Karen Avioras
Unsung Heroes
Spaceship Samurai
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:04:00 -
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kirean3464 wrote:ok just for people who are incapable of reading
Quite rude from someone who is incapable of writing.
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kirean3464
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:07:00 -
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Yes and you guys have been nothing but courteous with your reply's very clearly in a position to call someone else rude. i figured it would be like this but if i leave it up long enough i might get some actual input. |
Jake Maverick
The Scope
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:08:00 -
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Karen Avioras wrote:kirean3464 wrote: i have a genuine worry that something like star citizen will come out and just outclass us Not going to happen.
while Star Citizen is cool and all. (And I totally backed it on kick starter) It's an utterly different class of game all together. Eve is like the entire chess game. Star citizen is like when one chess piece takes another. It's all small scale sharded skirmishes. |
Qaping Pi
Solvent Green Recycling
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:09:00 -
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kirean3464 wrote:if i do anything outside incursions right now in eve im doing it for the joy of it not the money and that's kind of sad
Dafuq??? |
Netan MalDoran
Yumping Amok
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:09:00 -
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I believe that mining doesn't need any buffs, there has to be danger to everything that makes ISK, but I totally agree on the option of merging Valkerye and EvE online as an option.
"Your security status has been lowered." - Hell yeah it was! |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:11:00 -
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kirean3464 wrote:
i guess to sum this up i wish more content would start getting delivered into the game
Themepark content is not what a sandbox game is all about. Whenever I hear people talk about "the future of eve" or anything to that effect, I always cringe because I know it's someone asking for CCP to turn the game into some it's not.
Quote:if i do anything outside incursions right now in eve im doing it for the joy of it not the money and that's kind of sad which is why im pretty much not playing right now apart from plexing and keeping my skill queue going.
Sweet ****ing Cotton Candy, do you hear yourself? Do you see what you just wrote? "Yeah, I am doing things in the game for fun instead of for money, and that's kind of sad..."
*head explodes*
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again not a flame thread im simply asking peoples opinions i love eve i have been playing for years and i will never truly stop playing but i have a genuine worry that something like star citizen will come out and just outclass us and i am sad to say it the way things are going now i feel there is a real possibility of that happening since we appear to get movies of awesome content and that's about it.
Then go play Star Citizen. Aside from "Spaceships!" the two games are nothing alike.
And get this. EVE will live or die based on absolutely zero criteria for people like you to keep playing. Themepark content is not what made EVE what it is today, and lack thereof will not be it's death.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:12:00 -
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So everything getting overhauled is now stagnation?
And word from the wise: If you plan to write a wall of text, put the essence of what you will elaborate on in the very first few sentences and not just ramble on and expect anyone to read all of it. One of the few useful things I learned in school.
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Alternative Splicing
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:13:00 -
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kirean3464 wrote:i am pretty much sat farming incursions until i have all my skills at max level and all the shiny pvp ships i want before i go to learn
Problem discovered.
Go make/partake in some content.
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Li Quiao
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:15:00 -
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Bridgette d'Iberville wrote:What did capital letters ever do to you?
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Fal Dara
Drunk Chaos
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:15:00 -
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I think that the OP here may not be of the same gaming philosophy as many of us in eve, or, atleast me.
I for one, have been playing eve nearly (minus a year total) for 10 straight years. I Started this game a year after it came out. Do you know what it was like then? Sure, it was 10 years ago, and you might thing that there ought to be some amazing things to come out of the pipe by now, and you're right. A year in, this game had JUST interceptors for t2 ships. All t2 mods had to be produced off random lotto-drop bpos (which were further limited in number). t2 cargo expanders were 12m. t2 minng lasers were 15m. There were no dedicated mining ships (no barges, no frigs, no cruisers with bonii--nothing). We mined everything in thoraxes, and Apocalypse battleships. I was stuck in an imicus mining for 3 months. My character started WITHOUT mining or gunnery skills. There were no capital ships, getting a battleship paid for and built took WEEKS of corporate effort (chsing down a bpo owner was often the hardest part).
... i have seen what eve came from, and i dont think that it's stagnated at all. It just moves at a more ... dedicated.... pace than a large-brand-name mmo might.
In large part, i think that stems from the fact that there is no 'end game' in eve to strive for, no new clothes or swords to unlock of some new super-color. Everyone is capable of having what anyone else is -- eve is not designed for some one looking for a bling-style end game. It's not meant to cater to someone with a short attention span. It's not meant to make you feel that there's a way for you to become superior to anyone--even the lowliest noob.
In EVE, no matter how much isk you have, where you fly, or what you fly--a guy that started the game 2 weeks ago can kill you. THAT is the philosophy behind eve's game. It's strategy and risk vs reward. It's tactical and analytical. You win when you LEARN. You dont win when you acquire.
When you say you want new things--i say i do too, but i dont want then unless they fit into the larger picture of stratagy, and risk vs reward. Everything (except maybe a dramiel) has a counter. It should always be that way. A counter and a reason....
So with that in mind, what is the purpose of walking in stations? What will it add to that philosphy? It needs to, to be justified. (i for one have wanted it from day 1, my whole bio is dedicated to it from before we had the new character makers) ... but i dont want it added for the sake of it being added...
You think miners have it bad? They already have great ships--i mined for years, in every sector of space (low is the hardest btw), and to be honest, they dont have it that bad. Just fit for tank, pay a little attention (50% of gankers WARN you that they're there with smack talk in local, or call out your name--if it's not a multiboxxer). Now they have a cloaky mining ship, and you think they can do more? They have mining ships with more ehp than a battleship, and you think there should be more? As my 2 year old would say "No way! No way dude!"
I think that you havnt absorbed a great deal of what makes EVE.... EVE. |
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:16:00 -
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Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:19:00 -
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EVE is very much like SNL. Keeps getting renewed long after its prime...just because.
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kirean3464
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:29:00 -
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i never stated once that content should be added for the sake of something to do i believe ring mining would have been a nice edition to the game to balance out moon mining I was simply using the walk in station bit as a example of how something was not implemented and i find that with a lot of expansions. I have mined in all areas of eve to and frankly high sec is the most dangerous so i would have to disagree there at least in low and null sec you can see who is going to shoot you in the system. and i i would have to disagree with the fit for tank statement also because outside a skiff there is no barge in the world you are tanking to survive a couple of destroyers with tech 2 guns and in my experience gankers don't gloat until after they have gotten your ship. as for the other guy my point about "if i am doing anything outside of incursions I am doing it for fun" was there is no high sec activity i am aware of that gives more isk per hour than that and it would be nice if the other activity could push something a little closer to it, and please dont reply with "then go to null or lowsec" because the point was incursions are lots of safe easy isk and i just would like to see some new additions to mix them up a bit that is all that i was speaking about |
Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:30:00 -
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OP your wall of text is painful to read. Try constructing your sentences properly and your point may come across. Right now it's just a wall of rambling I have neither the time nor patience to decipher.
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baltec1
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:37:00 -
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CCP dont add content, they add tools so we can make our own. For example, I have spent the better part of the last 4 years trying to be the best pilot of just one hull.
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Ralph King-Griffin
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:39:00 -
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That txt wall has a physicality you rarely find on the internet.
For the love of literacy, use paragraphs.
You want change, well go on sisi and make something, anything.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:46:00 -
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kirean3464 wrote:as for the other guy my point about "if i am doing anything outside of incursions I am doing it for fun" was there is no high sec activity i am aware of that gives more isk per hour than that and it would be nice if the other activity could push something a little closer to it, and please dont reply with "then go to null or lowsec" because the point was incursions are lots of safe easy isk and i just would like to see some new additions to mix them up a bit that is all that i was speaking about
Ummmmm... what? You don't want to do "fun" because it won't make you money?
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I'm sorry... but that is probably the most "mentally challenged" comment I have ever read.
"Fun" does not have a price tag. "Fun is just fun." Sure, you need to fund it somehow... but that's just a detail thing getting to "fun." If you have some money and want to have "fun"... DO IT.
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
Late Night Alliance
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Posted - 2014.06.11 20:47:00 -
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duplicate post
Change isn't bad, but it isn't always good. Sometimes, the oldest and most simple of things can be the most elegant and effective.
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Saraki Ishikela
Deep Space Adventure Time
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Posted - 2014.06.11 21:04:00 -
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kirean3464 wrote:i never stated once that content should be added for the sake of something to do i believe ring mining would have been a nice edition to the game to balance out moon mining I was simply using the walk in station bit as a example of how something was not implemented and i find that with a lot of expansions. I have mined in all areas of eve to and frankly high sec is the most dangerous so i would have to disagree there at least in low and null sec you can see who is going to shoot you in the system. and i i would have to disagree with the fit for tank statement also because outside a skiff there is no barge in the world you are tanking to survive a couple of destroyers with tech 2 guns and in my experience gankers don't gloat until after they have gotten your ship. as for the other guy my point about "if i am doing anything outside of incursions I am doing it for fun" was there is no high sec activity i am aware of that gives more isk per hour than that and it would be nice if the other activity could push something a little closer to it, and please dont reply with "then go to null or lowsec" because the point was incursions are lots of safe easy isk and i just would like to see some new additions to mix them up a bit that is all that i was speaking about
I believe his comment pointing out that your goal is to find the best isk per hour and not the most fun per hour. Try doing something for the joy of it once in awhile and not what you'll get in return. You might actually have a good time! |
Gel Musana
LOL a Sticky Situation
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Posted - 2014.06.11 21:04:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:kirean3464 wrote: i feel like eve online has been stagnating for a very long time I disgree How long have you been playing for, if I may ask? (If its in that text-wall, I couldnt be bothered looking for it, sorry)
It has, full-stop. +1 for all the right comments in this posting.
I am totally disappointed. Even better now, expansions are gone. Now you will get only some bits. And one day you will hear that EVE Online is about to shut down.
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Gel Musana
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Posted - 2014.06.11 21:07:00 -
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Rin Valador wrote:"Stagnating"
Stopped there. Every day has been new for me and I have not stopped having fun for over two years now in EvE.
Yes, the first 3 years are exciting. After that you find out that there is nothing else to do and that the game is not being expanded.
That's where I am.
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Kaarous Aldurald
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Posted - 2014.06.11 21:07:00 -
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Gel Musana wrote:Ramona McCandless wrote:kirean3464 wrote: i feel like eve online has been stagnating for a very long time I disgree How long have you been playing for, if I may ask? (If its in that text-wall, I couldnt be bothered looking for it, sorry) It has, full-stop. +1 for all the right comments in this posting. I am totally disappointed. Even better now, expansions are gone. Now you will get only some bits. And one day you will hear that EVE Online is about to shut down.
Then by all means, save the rest of us the time and the drama, and just give me your stuff right now.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
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Gel Musana
LOL a Sticky Situation
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Posted - 2014.06.11 21:09:00 -
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Abrazzar wrote:So everything getting overhauled is now stagnation?
And word from the wise: If you plan to write a wall of text, put the essence of what you will elaborate on in the very first few sentences and not just ramble on and expect anyone to read all of it. One of the few useful things I learned in school.
Re-balancing should be done on the side of expansions, not be the main delivery. Rubbish.
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