Just petition it?

Given his corp history and combat log will give up the game, he's a dead cert for a warning or worse.

Just petition it?

Given his corp history and combat log will give up the game, he's a dead cert for a warning or worse.

or you could argue this

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19881

In the past, there have been some policies in place within Customer Support that imposed additional rules onto the war mechanics available in game, such as the so called "Alliance Hopping" or the more recent "Dec Shield".

The decision has been made to lift those restrictions that affect war declarations, thereby opening up ways for corporations to avoid unwanted wars via methods that were previously considered exploits of game mechanics.

In other words:
If you can leave or declare a war, raise the costs for other entities to declare one to you or do any other war related things within current normal game mechanics, you may do so without having to keep other rules in mind.

just a thought

3) Corp hopping to evade war decs
No longer an exploit, with the exception of pilots changing corps while in space AND online (i.e. to"surprise" war targets).

I love this, they never bother to ban carebear exploiters, who jump corp to dodge war but the bears want corp hoppers who jump to gank war targets banned. LOL. Hypocracy at its finest. Anyhow just petition you'll get your ship back, any ships lost to war dec just get reinbursed now as CCP does not bother to check if exploits happen due to war decs. They don't refund dropped modules sadly or we could turn this into a big isk fountain.

Just petition it?

Given his corp history and combat log will give up the game, he's a dead cert for a warning or worse.

In fact if you are using this exploit to attack people I'd go so far as to say that you fail at Eve and Pvp in my humble opinion.

I can't tell you what is and what isn't an exploit-but I would tell you that if this happened to me-I would petition it ASAP. It sounds like this player is stalking targets based on corp of victim and joining just for the combat/WT status at that time. I would also file reimbursement petition :D Good luck and keep us informed-D3

how can anything being a game mechanic be an exploit/ be exploited? if it is not working as intended the game mechanics need to be fixed. no more, no less. eve is just behaving as programmed.

in this case just introduce a 2h timer to enter or leave a corp once the button was pressed. like when you have roles it takes 24h.

And there is the solution. Once a corp is war dec'd it should have it's joining and leaving mechanics delayed by 7 days for both players and allince. This gives both the war decers and those dec'd no excuse for corp hopping or allowing them to join or dismantle corp just because they are bears or horrible exploiting greifers.

If you do not want to PVP there is a great game called freelancer that can be played with out other players. EVE is a PVP game and the day it allows PVE it will have signed it's own death warrant.

And there is the solution. Once a corp is war dec'd it should have it's joining and leaving mechanics delayed by 7 days for both players and allince. This gives both the war decers and those dec'd no excuse for corp hopping or allowing them to join or dismantle corp just because they are bears or horrible exploiting greifers.

7 days would be a bit long. And if you allow players to lock other players into a particular corp/alliance, then you open the door for serial griefing where you simply wardec them with alt-corps every N days until the players quit the game because they can never leave the wardec'd corp.

They could just change it so you can't change corps again if you've changed corps within the past 24 hours. Which is similar to the cool-down required if you need to "drop roles". So once you join, you can't instantly leave corp until after the first 24 hours.

Or make it so that joining a corp only takes effect at downtime.

You misunderstand what I mean is a corp or player tries to leave they get a 7 day count down then they would drop or if the war ends then they could also drop. Trapping players in corps would not be fair but forcing players and corps to stay for at least 7 days is fair. EVE advertises itself as a game of consequence but the current war dec mechanics are void of all consequence.

Simpler solution. Disallow joining/leaving a corp unless docked/offline. From the time the button is pressed, the result of the button will come into effect next time one of those conditions are true (to ensure an unwanted player can be kicked).

that might solve this exploit, but as 0Lona 0ltor pointed out, adding timers to leave/join corp, especially when at war, adds consequence and might also help war decs. not sure if 7days were too harsh, but 3 days for sure sounds great.

If you change your standings in regards to someone, it doesn't appear as changed (IE, if they went from neutral to blue they still appear neutral) until the next time you log in. This also works when the game does it for you, as when someone joins a hostile corp: your standings change, but it doesn't appear until the next time you log in. He didn't cheat and he didn't break any rules; blame mechanics and your inability to mine aligned.

scenario

Further examination of the fiends history shows that he has performed this type of dirty trick in the past. Many times.

Is this not an exploit?

Worst part is the guy is a right heel and will constantly smack talk after a successful kill, yet he won't war dec with his main character. He does this to minimize his exposure and keep himself safe.

CCP will do NOTHING. Been there....experienced that....................

No, THIS is a HTFU post.

If someone joins a corp right next to you in space, it is an exploit. What Hooride does is not that, nor is his employment history particularly long.

Solstice Project, you are one of the worst posters in EVE. Congrats.

What do they do? Just join in station?

In that case, THIS is a HTFU post as well (also a learn to duck wardecs if you want to do something other than pew post).







Also, I am Spartacus

Of course we can't just tell you, there's no fun in that.

Either it's a commonly known and used game mechanic: possibilities include but are not limited to
Login Trap (doesn't quite look like that)
Corp Change in Station (doesn't quite look like that)
Suicide Gank (unlikely from his description)
Preying on the inattentive (OP could be less than honest)

Or it's an exploit
i.e. Changing corp in space in order to make a kill


Trying to be secretive just makes us suspect you're taking the exploit option.

Trying to explain game mechanics you don't understand makes us suspect that you are a ******.

I'm perfectly fine not knowing hisec wardec mechanics.

Good.

By which I meant I'm unconcerned with my present lack of knowledge, not that I do not seek enlightenment.

By which I meant I'm unconcerned with my present lack of knowledge, not that I do not seek enlightenment.

we will be banned immediately within a day or two.

You've squeezed it out of me, we've all been using an exploit this whole time, petition us all and we will be banned immediately within a day or two.

Joining a corporation that is at war, while you are in space with war targets is considered an exploit. You will have to dock up to join in those cases.

Joining a corporation that is at war, while you are in space with war targets is considered an exploit. You will have to dock up to join in those cases.

If:

1. Corp Infiltrator attacks in-corp high-value target (Jump Freighter/Orca)
2. Gets kicked from corp by director while fighting in space and gets Concorded. = Not an exploit???

Yet again this needs no furth discussion. A 7 day timer for leaving/joining a corp or allince that is at war is the simple fix to this problem, Then CCP would not even need to handle any war exploits.

A 7 day timer would prevent both war dodging and war hopping to greif.

Not sure that I agree with this idea, but I do see a small problem with it.

Corp A wardecs corp B, and both are locked in. Keeps players from corp hopping for advantage.

Wouldn't this also prevent a CEO from kicking someone from the corp if they are exposed to be a spy or thief? Seems maybe one exploit would be solved, yet create another.

Too bad that is not possible because you have to be docked or logged off in order to be kicked from a corp.

Right after the "all wardec shenanigans are legal" posting, we did quite a bit of this sort of thing. I have a warning for corp hopping while in orbit of a planet and then warping to a target. I talked to a GM at length on the matter to clarify exactly what the problem is.

Here's the issue: If I don't engage a session change, I can arrive on-grid and not appear to be a war target. This means that an apparent neutral can open fire on someone without them knowing there is someone ON GRID who can shoot them. I know that one person reported that during one of our stunts, they had corpmates showing us as war targets but getting concord warnings if they tried to shoot us. Another one, I landed on-grid with a target and he didn't react to my presence because he didn't see me as red until I engaged.

It's a legitimate bug that (I've been told) CCP is working to correct. Using it *is* an exploit and will get you in trouble.

Pretty certain there's a GM thread in GD that says anything the game lets you do, you can do without having to worry about further rules.

k...I bothered to drag it out of an old blog post I made. Here's the thread:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=19881&find=unread

And here's the post, by the same GM who started the thread, in the middle of page 4:

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=174787#post174787

Why he didn't edit the OP (and still hasn't) I have no idea.