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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2006.06.26 10:02:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: parabellum88
last nite i got blown out of the sky in my ferox wit only 50 percent insurance on it (that was all i could afford)by 2 battleships gate camping in a 0.4. i no this is a unsecure spot but stil why would they do that. no ransom no threats just blowing people up. and then they podded me but thats not that big of a deal i didnt have important implants or anything. but the point of this is why gatecamp. why just blow other ppl up for no reason and have a sec lvl of -7.6 in like 15 mins. i dont see the point.
Moved from General Discussion -Suvetar
you should put pills in your sig instead of bullets, would make more sence
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Inanara
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Posted - 2006.10.05 07:19:00 -
[62]
Originally by: Eecaj
Edited by: Eecaj on 23/06/2006 05:48:57
Edited by: Eecaj on 23/06/2006 05:47:18
Originally by: Leandro Salazar
It enlarges their epeen. That is very important to some people.
Do you mean epen or epencephalon. The segment of the brain next behind the midbrain, including the cerebellum and pons; the hindbrain. Sometimes abbreviated to epen.
Summery, So its epen not epeen.  Good day Kind Sir.
No that's not what they meant dippy.. E-peen is a slang term meaning their exestential *****.. they have a tiny REAL ***** so their e-***** hardens and gives them pleasure whenver they do mean things 
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Celeste Storm
Gallente
Elite United Corp
Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.10.05 07:27:00 -
[63]
Originally by: gfldex
They provide the risk that is ment to be in low sec.
They provide the reason why low sec is EVEs ghost town and e-peen enlargement area. 
And they can now call themself PvPers. Which actually makes me smile.
Cel.
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Plan Neun
Caldari
Ganja Unlimited
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Posted - 2006.10.05 07:37:00 -
[64]
Edited by: Plan Neun on 05/10/2006 07:37:37
There is no style anymore among most of the pirates, its all killstats killstats killstats and a big hard ****, thats what counts.
There is a few piratecorps left with some honor. Roleplaying yarrs is also dying out from the game and Eve current title reflect pretty much the change, cold players in cold war(s).
"I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
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GenePool Chlorinator
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Posted - 2006.10.05 07:41:00 -
[65]
Necro'd by Inanara FTL
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Red Ochre
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Posted - 2006.10.05 07:50:00 -
[66]
Originally by: 5hakey
Cus they wanna?
Cus they find it fun?
Cus it earns them isk?
Cus they like to make ppl whine?
Cus theres always people who ignore the blatent map warnings?
Cus its only a game and they treat it as such?
Theres a few points, pick your favourite.
Cus their EMO'S?
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Demonique
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.10.05 08:02:00 -
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This threads gone on long enough.... and allthough i ahve to admit that i havnt read it all.... im pretty certain that alot of it is flaming the OP for being such a whining nancy boy.
I just wanted to add my 3 isk
Your a whining nancy boy 
YARRR!!
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Celeste Storm
Gallente
Elite United Corp
Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.10.05 08:20:00 -
[68]
Originally by: Demonique
This threads gone on long enough.... and allthough i ahve to admit that i havnt read it all.... im pretty certain that alot of it is flaming the OP for being such a whining nancy boy.
I just wanted to add my 3 isk
Your a whining nancy boy
YARRR!!
begging for forum symp? yeah, join the masses! 
Cel.
Compensate Forum Whines / Rank 8 / SP: 1886890 of 2560000 |
DarkElf
Caldari
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.10.05 09:24:00 -
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I'll tell you what confuses me about these threads.
Who doesn't like blowing things up? if the ppl complaining/confused about being destroyed really don't understand then just look at other games you have played. PPl enjoy to blow **** up, it's a fact.
Who here hasn't played GTA or something similar and taken great pleasure from mowing down innocent civilians on the streets. was this profitable in any way, not really, was it great sport and a challenge, no, but it was really funny
So why just because the thing ur blowing up has a real person controlling it, is it any different in eve. It's fun to watch things explode and know that u caused it.
Now call it retarded, call it a deficiency of something in real life if you want, but i can't help thinking that if some ppl actually went out and tried commiting random acts of violence and destruction then everyone would enjoy it.
At the end of the day it's boys and their toys, explosions, guns, fighting etc. and it's all great fun.
DE
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Commander Hades
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Posted - 2006.10.05 10:14:00 -
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yes eve is only a game but surly the fact that people spend alot of time in the game means that to many it is more than just a game becaue of the time & real life money spent
there are those who can make real money form selling their millions of isk (rules??) for real money
so some would argu that this is just a game but imo they are very narrow minded
games are no fun if you keep getting the crap beaten out of you for no reason
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Laythun
Undercover Brothers
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Posted - 2006.10.05 10:23:00 -
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pfft jump in point piracy is teh best fun.
All u anit pirate whiney muppets cant ***** about it becuase we dont run stabs that close to a gate, and are never aligned. kill or be killed
But thread necro 4tl
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X ChaosX
Caldari
Panzershrek
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Posted - 2006.10.05 10:53:00 -
[72]
Edited by: X ChaosX on 05/10/2006 10:54:42
Originally by: turnschuh
Originally by: gfldex
They provide the risk that is ment to be in low sec.
yeah its like negative-concord, they shoot everything but when aggressed they run.
Yes they should stay there and get blown up because thats the smart thing to do. Originally by: Inanara
No that's not what they meant dippy.. E-peen is a slang term meaning their exestential *****.. they have a tiny REAL ***** so their e-***** hardens and gives them pleasure whenver they do mean things
Look out! Its an E-Thug!
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Originally by: Bill Shankly
i see your another one of those lousy pirates that cant fight fair and call yourself apvper, what a joke u are.
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DarkElf
Caldari
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.10.05 11:17:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Commander Hades
yes eve is only a game but surly the fact that people spend alot of time in the game means that to many it is more than just a game becaue of the time & real life money spent
there are those who can make real money form selling their millions of isk (rules??) for real money
so some would argu that this is just a game but imo they are very narrow minded
games are no fun if you keep getting the crap beaten out of you for no reason
Your point is completely retarded. You basically saying that for ppl that sell isk on ebay we are messing with their real life. well... good. i feel quite satisfied that i'm screwing up ppl that break the rules of eve and destroy the game for the rest of us by making money of a game that they shouldn't do.
but this is just a game, whatever way u look at it. the game is designed so ppl going into low sec are afraid constantly of getting blown up. that's what the game designers want and if u don't like it then don't play the game. narrow minded no, true yes
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Lifewire
Caldari
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.10.05 11:18:00 -
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Sum it up:
There are several locations pirates can hunt:
- 0.0 gates
- low sec gates
- 0.0 belts
- low sec belts
- 0.0 stations
- low sec stations
- complexes
Now lest go into details:
0.0 gates:
Camp an 0.0 gate is possible, but traffic is low. Zyrine and Megacyte transports are done with carriers since last patch. Large alliance blobs will intercept pirates. Haulers and freigthers are well escorted.
Threat level: high
Possible ISK: low
0.4 gates:
Camp a low sec gate can be done with snipers or sentry tankers. Since sentry guns really hurt, sniping is the best option if you are alone. As team a mix of sentry tankers and snipers works smooth. Carebears bring everything to you an dont even try to warp away or fly in a 90 degree angle to your gunships. Bascially they act like lemmings and bring a lot of ISK. Piratehunters bring additional ISK when you kill them.
Threat level: medium
Possible ISK: high
0.0 belts:
"Empty" is the best word. While Eve has thousands of belts, only few will contain a target. Once you enter local people instantly warp to safespot or log. Alliances will send out blob to kill you.
Threat level: medium
Possible ISK: low
0.4 belts:
Empty - more targets than in 0.0, though. Once you found someone you might loot 2-3 miner IIs. Not to be compared to a low sec camp where carebears bring the whole corphangar to you.
Threat level: low
Possible ISK: low
Complexes:
0.0 complexes are usually "camped" by alliances and they will sent all they have to keep pirates out. So if you show up with 2 ships you will 50 interceptors on your a$$. Low sec complexes are not very interesting. Like low sec belts you might loot some n00b stuff, but nothing really exiting.
Threat level: High
Possible ISK: low
If you check the list, you will find out why camping a low sec gate is the most efficient way to pirate. You also will find out why it is good to use snipers, if possible combined with sentry tankers. The ISK are on the gates! Nobody brings a corphangar full of BPOs to a belt or complex. But everything that can be built, transported, refined or sold will be found on a low sec gate.
Pirates want ISK!
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Nafri
Caldari
Cataclysm Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.10.05 11:39:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Jacques Archambault
They do it for the "squish" sound when you blow up a pod.
But tbh, belt piracy can be a lot more fun instead of sitting at a gate. The joy of the hunt 4tw.
YAAARRRRR!!!!
just to see 40 chinese to log out when you enter local -.-
From Dusk till Dawn
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DarkElf
Caldari
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.10.05 11:39:00 -
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i disagree with a lot of the things u just said lifewire.
complexes isk potential is extremely high as most ppl take faction bs or faction fitted bs into them. i've made a small fortune from killing complexers.
secondly 0.0 is high threat lvl but also very high earning potential if ur good. risk v reward is quite balanced in eve atm. pvp'ers often use good equipment and carriers are still only owned by a very small percentage of eve and haulers are still used a lot with high end mins and equipment in.
0.0 belts i would say very few ppl log or instantly warp to ss as eve is full of plebs who stay there for ages after u enter local.
the rest of what u said i fully agree with tho 
DE
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Porter Hadlend
Gallente
Righteous-Indignation
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Posted - 2006.10.05 11:43:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Broomhilde
I got podded in .4 the other day right at the gate by a player in a carrier. He hit me with 3-4 Proton torpedos (I think) and if was over. I have nothing to steal, my ship is a little vexor, when I asked him why he did it he said "because I could". So theres your answer.
Checking his info I saw he had a paltry 15 mil bounty on his head. I sent him a mail letting him know how low that bounty was and how lame he must be. His response was "F---you!" hehe, revenge is sweet! 
Carriers have no turrets or bays, so if it was a in carrier it would have been fighters or drones. A dreadnought could have hit you with Citadel Torpedoes.. but against a vexor O_o.
Also.. he killed you so you smacked him? Erg. Poor form.
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LWMaverick
Quam Singulari
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.10.05 11:44:00 -
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rofl, whine some more?
We do it for a living, just like you hug roids all day, or kill npc's in some boring lvl 2-3 mission.
Try it for a change, kill some innocent people, and join the dark side 
People always try to psycho-analyse me, and try to involve my real life situation, and starts asking if i was sexually abused as a child, and things that are much worse..
I've come to the point where i seriously dont give a **** anymore.
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General Coochie
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Posted - 2006.10.05 11:50:00 -
[79]
Edited by: General Coochie on 05/10/2006 11:51:57
You say low-sec is a empty. Well then theres nothing stopping newer players for ratting there :) I myself ratted quite a bit in low-sec my first weeks in game, all you need is a fairly empty system. And since you can rat there in frigs and cruisers rewards are pretty nice considering the risks. Even if you do loose you frig it doesnt really matter. Low security isnt dangeorus if you know what you are doing. The most dangerous with low sec is gates (camps) . If you check map you hardly run into them. And with instas you can avoid some ppl trying to make some isk at gates and those occational ganks as someone talked about two posts upp.
Ppl getting popped in belts in low sec areas are noobs not checking local and scanner. Or it is ppl that actually want to fight. Thats also the main reason why belt piracy in low-sec isnt very rewarding if you finally find someone not warping away they are mining in a vexor or smth and drop 4 mining lasers \o/
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Lifewire
Caldari
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.10.05 12:03:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Lifewire on 05/10/2006 12:04:21
Quote:
i disagree with a lot of the things u just said lifewire.
complexes isk potential is extremely high as most ppl take faction bs or faction fitted bs into them. i've made a small fortune from killing complexers.
secondly 0.0 is high threat lvl but also very high earning potential if ur good. risk v reward is quite balanced in eve atm. pvp'ers often use good equipment and carriers are still only owned by a very small percentage of eve and haulers are still used a lot with high end mins and equipment in.
0.0 belts i would say very few ppl log or instantly warp to ss as eve is full of plebs who stay there for ages after u enter local.
the rest of what u said i fully agree with tho
This might be what you experienced. You CAN loot some nice stuff in complexes, i agree - but you WILL loot whole corphangars at gate. My big hits have all been at gates - i talk of billions of ISK and not 1-2 good named items. Did you ever loot 5 bil ISK in a complex??? No? I did at a gate.
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DarkElf
Caldari
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.10.05 12:17:00 -
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Well that's fair enough i guess. I was just disagreeing with the 'low isk potential' implication for complexers which when u've killed 2 faction bs faction fitted and several other ships including a navy raven with 1.5bil in module i'd say they're not low gain.
But ur right gate pirating is the most profitable pirating by far, but also the most boring 
DE
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Lifewire
Caldari
TunDraGon
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Posted - 2006.10.05 12:32:00 -
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Quote:
But ur right gate pirating is the most profitable pirating by far, but also the most boring
It used to be, yes. But we experience more and more that piratehunters attack us daily. This way we get ISK and fun. On some days we get attacked very often. It¦s a nice cat and mouse game we play with them and i really start to like it.
But yes, 1 year ago a low sec camp was boring, omg. You were lucky when you got attacked once per month.
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DarkElf
Caldari
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.10.05 13:28:00 -
[83]
Ahhh i guess so. not really done gate camping in a very long time. so you get the money and the fighting mixed with very short bouts of boredom. Guess it's nice when there are groups of anti-pie's about which i rarely seem to find.
Well this all adds the explanations here. so gate camping is not only profitable in certain areas but can also stir up trouble which is what we like
yarrrr
DE
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Jintoi
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Posted - 2006.10.05 13:36:00 -
[84]
Garnet Strife is a classic gatecamper, just sits at Metserel gate all night.
Attempting to enlarge his e-peen (yep mangina) by killing people in 2 or more vs 1.
Super high skilled pvp that, zoneline camping...
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DarkElf
Caldari
Euphoria Released
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Posted - 2006.10.05 14:39:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Jintoi
Garnet Strife is a classic gatecamper, just sits at Metserel gate all night.
Attempting to enlarge his e-peen (yep mangina) by killing people in 2 or more vs 1.
Super high skilled pvp that, zoneline camping...
And how exactly do u know that's the reason for him doing it. maybe he isn't interested in the sport when he's doing that. maybe he doesn't care if it's a challenge he just wants to blow stuff up and have fun.
and maybe your just some egit using an alt to slate someone when u have never pvp'd in ur life. just maybe
sigh... breath
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Gift
Amarr
Loot
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Posted - 2006.10.05 14:42:00 -
[86]
ZOMBIE THREAD! IT's after your...
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Pirates of Eve, Join channel "Pirate" Today!
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Keta Min
Pre-nerfed Tactics
Blood of the Innocents
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Posted - 2006.10.05 17:40:00 -
[87]
Originally by: Commander Hades
games are no fun if you keep getting the crap beaten out of you for no reason
= games are no fun when you lose
did people like playing chess or monopoly with you and your mentality?
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MrMann
Bastage Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.10.05 20:32:00 -
[88]
Edited by: MrMann on 05/10/2006 20:33:03
I try to remain poliet and give honest answers to those my Corp kills when they have questions such as this.
Just saying shaddup noob is both rude and not good for the game as a whole IMHO.
So in that vein:
There are several reasons my Corp or any other PvP Corp kills and pods.
1) Politics. Currently my Corp is attempting to close certain areas of Lonetrek to ALL traffic other than those set to "blue" by the Alliance we are working with. This means we kill and pod everyone not set to blue. No ransoming. No talking. No negotiating. It's low sec, obviously, and thus an area that can be claimed to an extent by various groups.
2) Money. We kill to see what ya got. Yes, haulers usually have the best loot but I have found absolute treasures in shuttles. You would not believe what some people will haul in a shuttle. BPOs for example. Remember, at a gate camps we don't have time to talk, scan, or think about it. Otherwise you'll either jump or warp away. We shoot first, then see what ya got.
3) Ransom? Pain in the butt. We don't do it. It's just too dicey with current game mechanics. Also, since we are at a gate we cannot hang around and talk as that usually ends up getting us killed. Ransoming in a belt however is different.
4) Why pod? One, we have been asked to. Two, it gets you out of system so you can't warn everyone in local where we are. Three, soon we will be able to loot your corpse for implants (I think) if so . . . well more podding to be expected.
5) We can't be killed so it is not fair? This is incorrect. Pirates get killed often. I've been killed often. It happens. Usually by my making a mistake against a foe that has his act together. I've been killed sniping. I've been killed at close range camping. I've been killed period. LOL. Bottom line is when we add up our profits and losses we are still ahead.
What can you do?
1) USE THE (*#&*)#&(^#&*^#&*)^ MAP!!! If you see an area that has several kills and pod kills in the last hour that should tell you something.
2) USE A )*(#)&*#^&*# scout!! Yes, I know this doesn't work for the solo player.
3) Warp Core stabs and Nano fibers are your friend.
4) INSTAS!!! Use em.
5) Don't be a target. Are you really flying in low sec in a hauler, alone, without instas?? You so deserve to die.
6) Don't carry what you cannot afford to lose in low sec. If absolutely necessary . . . Fly in a gang, use the map, use instas, kit your ship for survival, etc. etc.
7) DON'T SMACK TALK THE PIRATES!!! Well at least until you are OUT of the system. Otherwise you will be hunted down and killed with glee.
8) If trapped in a system . . . don't sit in one Safe Spot. You;ll get probed out and killed. Also, talk to the pirates. See if you can work out a deal for you to leave the system alive.
These are just some short thoughts I jotted down quickly. There is obviously more. The bottom line however is that in low sec and 0.0 you are always a target to someone. Plan accordingly.
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milinkoee
Bastage Incorporated
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Posted - 2006.10.05 22:52:00 -
[89]
MrMann does it cuz he wasn't hugged enough as a child, for the record.
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Santiago Cortes
Caldari
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2006.10.06 01:31:00 -
[90]
*Locked*
Necroed for trolling.
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