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parabellum88	Posted - 2006.06.21 16:40:00 - [1] last nite i got blown out of the sky in my ferox wit only 50 percent insurance on it (that was all i could afford)by 2 battleships gate camping in a 0.4. i no this is a unsecure spot but stil why would they do that. no ransom no threats just blowing people up. and then they podded me but thats not that big of a deal i didnt have important implants or anything. but the point of this is why gatecamp. why just blow other ppl up for no reason and have a sec lvl of -7.6 in like 15 mins. i dont see the point.
Dave White	Posted - 2006.06.21 16:41:00 - [2] sigh Boredom? Fun? Killboard
AlexCA	Posted - 2006.06.21 16:41:00 - [3] It earns a living? And dont you hate it when people make their signature look like part of their post?
5hakey	Posted - 2006.06.21 16:43:00 - [4] Cus they wanna? Cus they find it fun? Cus it earns them isk? Cus they like to make ppl whine? Cus theres always people who ignore the blatent map warnings? Cus its only a game and they treat it as such? Theres a few points, pick your favourite.
Dave White	Posted - 2006.06.21 16:46:00 - [5] Edited by: Dave White on 21/06/2006 16:48:24 Edited by: Dave White on 21/06/2006 16:46:38 Originally by: parabellum88 i understand all but one of those points. they dont earn isk they just blow ppl up. they dont try to ransom them. they dont blow up ppl wit only bounties. idk about other ppls ships but nothing dropped from mine so they didnt earn anything from killing me. Loot. Not everyone may have good loot, but it's not like their going to scan ships and leave those with T1 stuff alone Edit: Not smart to buy ships that you cant fully insure and replace if you lose it. Killboard
parabellum88	Posted - 2006.06.21 16:46:00 - [6] i understand all but one of those points. they dont earn isk they just blow ppl up. they dont try to ransom them. they dont blow up ppl wit only bounties. idk about other ppls ships but nothing dropped from mine so they didnt earn anything from killing me.
Dave White	Posted - 2006.06.21 16:46:00 - [7] Originally by: 5hakey Cus they wanna? Cus they find it fun? Cus it earns them isk? Cus they like to make ppl whine? Cus theres always people who ignore the blatent map warnings? Cus its only a game and they treat it as such? Theres a few points, pick your favourite. qft. They do it to teach newbs also. Killboard
Yelao	Posted - 2006.06.21 16:47:00 - [8] Originally by: AlexCA It earns a living? And dont you hate it when people make their signature look like part of their post? I actually wondered a moment on the meaning of that second line... To the OP: fun, boredom, ISK, and so they can read messages like these on the boards afterwards
parabellum88	Posted - 2006.06.21 16:49:00 - [9] well if there are legidamite reasons for doing so then i guess i just have to deal with it
Nicocat	Posted - 2006.06.21 16:51:00 - [10] Never, ever run to Lowsec without a scout, possibly an escort, especially with an uninsured ship (anything less that plat insurance is uninsured) ---------------------------- The opinions expressed by Nico do not reflect his corporation. He's just an ass. -Alexi Yes, I PvP in a Hookbill. How insane am I? EVE-Mail me and tell me!
Lisento Slaven	Posted - 2006.06.21 16:52:00 - [11] If they're legit reasons? Here's a legit reason - 0.4 - 0.0 is PVP space. Go there expecting to die =P --- Lisento Slaven wants to be a Space Whaler in EVE. Put in space whales!
gfldex	Posted - 2006.06.21 17:02:00 - [12] They provide the risk that is ment to be in low sec. -- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill\|lost my ship\|gank\|gate camp\|Verone/;'
MuffinsRevenger	Posted - 2006.06.21 17:05:00 - [13] Kind of slightly evil siting at the jump from safe to unsafe though :> more targets there i supose, but yeah, but they could atleast have been giving people a chance to get their feet in before you cut their legs of i supose allthough as people said, you can do everything you want to in eve, thats the whole point :P Originally by: The Wizz117 jeez those guyz @ ccp talk like sweedish nobody will take u seriouse with that cind of accent.
Leandro Salazar	Posted - 2006.06.21 17:06:00 - [14] It enlarges their epeen. That is very important to some people. --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.06.21 17:06:00 - [15] Originally by: Lisento Slaven If they're legit reasons? Here's a legit reason - 0.4 - 0.0 is PVP space. Go there expecting to die =P qft
turnschuh	Posted - 2006.06.21 17:07:00 - [16] Originally by: gfldex They provide the risk that is ment to be in low sec. yeah its like negative-concord, they shoot everything but when aggressed they run.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.06.21 17:08:00 - [17] Originally by: parabellum88 well if there are legidamite reasons for doing so then i guess i just have to deal with it Yeah, thats the right attitude to this game actually. You will encounter some tactics you dont really like or understand the fun of, but everybody plays the game their way. Some low sec is pretty dangerous, specially near mission areas. Get instant bookmarks if you are in a slow ship like the ferox. I tanked 2 of those gate snipers in my rupture, at least for the 10 seconds it took to MWD to the gate. --- The Eve Wiki Community Portal \| Eve Tribune
Motley Spacefarer	Posted - 2006.06.21 17:18:00 - [18] the sad answer is because they can some ppl aparently like sitting by a gate shooting at everything that moves knowing that they are completely safe and cant get killed (because they are aligned and ready to warp out should anyone get to close) IMO gate campers are the lowest of low in eve but they are unfortunatlly part of life in eve as for why they do it its anyone's guess
Fester Addams	Posted - 2006.06.21 17:27:00 - [19] The most commonly camped gates are the ones closest to high sec, and of them the most commonly camped are the ones that happen to be a route. The way eve is designed is based on chokepoints, if you wish to travel more than 3 jumps you will be hard pressed to find alternate routes that are reasonably close in number of jumps and thus high traffic gates are created. Camping a gate is deathly dull and for that reason you want to camp a high traffic gate with no concorde response and that is usually a 0.4 system right outside on high sec space. As for why you gate camp... there is a multitude of reasons for it but in reality it boils down to three possibilities. #1: Isk. plenty of players make their isk from camping gates. #2: Fun. Plenty of people consider it to be alot of fun to blow up another player. #3: EGO. Plenty of people have low selfasteem and get back the whoever they feel they have to get back at by blowing off steam in EvE. Now usually its a combination of two or three that is the real reason but any excuse you put before me I bet I can boil down to thise three. Ganking newbies for example will usually be #3 possibly with a smidge of #2. Killing haulers is easilly #1 but in all probability some #2 aswell. I can go on but I doubt there is any need. Personally I dont have much problem with camps, most empire camps can be avoided or waited out however I think its sad that there is in reality not all that much you can do about them.
Cadela Fria	Posted - 2006.06.21 17:34:00 - [20] Edited by: Cadela Fria on 21/06/2006 17:35:00 1. There is no "legitimate" reason for this, cause you don't need one 2. People do it cause they can 3. People also do it cause they think it's fun. Are you trying to tell me you're doing things in EVE BECAUSE they're boring, annoying or tedious?. I understand some things have to be done now and then thats not fun..but you don't do it because it's not fun. 4. Loot 5. People also do it to ** other people off..again, part of the whole fun aspect. I for one, back when I was pirating, loved it when people got upset about me killing them. If I was still pirating..well, same thing. 6. Because it's a game, no moral implications to worry about! (great stuff) 7. Did I say, because they can? 8. Oh yeah, and because they can. -Knowledge is a priviledge, not a right**
Sennlloy Wolf	Posted - 2006.06.21 17:35:00 - [21] Originally by: 5hakey Cus theres always people who ignore the blatent map warnings? Actually, the map is not always acurate. A few hours before downtime (realy early morning for me), I was trying to get from 0.0 into empire though 7q. the map showed 1 person in system in the past 30 minutes, no ship kills in the past hour, no pod kills in the past hour. I jumped into 7q and noticed 8 other people. Said - "what the heck" and warped to my BM for the other gate and got stuck in a bubble. Lost my shuttle and then my pod. Opps. Knew I should have logged and tried later. My mistake. However, people coming the other way would have no way of knowing other than by using a scout. Why where they there? Why else - to give me a fun heart thumping couple of seconds as I hoped to reach the gate in at least my pod Man they locked me fast! Anyway - fly safe Sennlloy. kill or be killed - if you outlawed ships, only outlaws can be pirates
Xendie	Posted - 2006.06.21 17:52:00 - [22] Originally by: parabellum88 last nite i got blown out of the sky in my ferox wit only 50 percent insurance on it (that was all i could afford)by 2 battleships gate camping in a 0.4. i no this is a unsecure spot but stil why would they do that. no ransom no threats just blowing people up. and then they podded me but thats not that big of a deal i didnt have important implants or anything. but the point of this is why gatecamp. why just blow other ppl up for no reason and have a sec lvl of -7.6 in like 15 mins. i dont see the point. Moved from General Discussion -Suvetar NBLI Originally by: F'nog This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.
Lodhi	Posted - 2006.06.21 17:53:00 - [23] Originally by: parabellum88 last nite i got blown out of the sky in my ferox wit only 50 percent insurance on it (that was all i could afford)by 2 battleships gate camping in a 0.4. i no this is a unsecure spot but stil why would they do that. no ransom no threats just blowing people up. and then they podded me but thats not that big of a deal i didnt have important implants or anything. but the point of this is why gatecamp. why just blow other ppl up for no reason and have a sec lvl of -7.6 in like 15 mins. i dont see the point. Moved from General Discussion -Suvetar We do this since we can. And mining is booring.. Simple as that.
operated	Posted - 2006.06.21 18:08:00 - [24] Reason why i camp gates is because i ran out of money and im so bored of npcing and missions , if i blow up ppl i get interaction , and i sometimes get cool fights , occasional ganksqauds i get to , so basicly you cant complain outlaws get ganked to . Basicly outlaws are sitting ducks , especially when they gategank (meaning they tank sentries) . Outlaws like the risk i guess , and i basicly do it for isk , interaction , thrills , and i get pvp whole time im on .
Kahor	Posted - 2006.06.21 18:41:00 - [25] Originally by: Motley Spacefarer the sad answer is because they can some ppl aparently like sitting by a gate shooting at everything that moves knowing that they are completely safe and cant get killed (because they are aligned and ready to warp out should anyone get to close) IMO gate campers are the lowest of low in eve but they are unfortunatlly part of life in eve as for why they do it its anyone's guess It's far from being risk free. An eye for an eye make a whole world blind.
Gift	Posted - 2006.06.21 18:54:00 - [26] Edited by: Gift on 21/06/2006 18:59:32 I camp gates because of the current criminal flagging system that limits my gameplay if I try & pirate any onther way. EDIT- atleast that was my logic when I actually played the game. Sawa's Graphic Fun Time
Shamis Orzoz	Posted - 2006.06.21 19:05:00 - [27] In empire, interdictors are not allowed, and interceptors get owned by sentries. So unless you have a fairly large group of players who are collectively tanking sentries and warp scrambling, there really is no option to ransom at a gate in empire. So you shouldn't blame the pirate that killed you, you should blame the sentries that make it difficult to ransom. shamis
TheKoolEagle	Posted - 2006.06.21 20:04:00 - [28] Originally by: turnschuh Originally by: gfldex They provide the risk that is ment to be in low sec. yeah its like negative-concord, they shoot everything but when aggressed they run. thats funny, i seem to remember one of my favorite fights came from being agressed at a gate. me and my corp mate were sniping, and a vagabond started hanging around the gate, making instas to our sniping spots. so we knew what he was doing, so we fitted for close combat. I warped in on the obvious one and acted like i couldnt warp out when he approached... a pilgrim uncloaks and the vaga and pilgrim started attacking me, but unfortunately for them i was in a close combat uber tank setup, then the domi warped in

Jacques Archambault	Posted - 2006.06.21 20:05:00 - [29] They do it for the "squish" sound when you blow up a pod. But tbh, belt piracy can be a lot more fun instead of sitting at a gate. The joy of the hunt 4tw. YAAARRRRR!!!! forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website! Want to be an EVE-Online forum moderator? click here!

Psycarne	Posted - 2006.06.21 20:15:00 - [30] Ebil ISD control the criminal underworld ------------- Order of the Wombles: Recycling those untidy modules on your ship.

Jacques Archambault	Posted - 2006.06.21 20:19:00 - [31] shhh!!! /me opens up one side of his trenchcoat and points Could I perhaps interest you in some Amarrian Whiskey? forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website! Want to be an EVE-Online forum moderator? click here!

Shamis Orzoz	Posted - 2006.06.21 20:33:00 - [32] Originally by: Jacques Archambault They do it for the "squish" sound when you blow up a pod. But tbh, belt piracy can be a lot more fun instead of sitting at a gate. The joy of the hunt 4tw. YAAARRRRR!!!! yeah its especially thrilling when all the people in the belts log off 20 seconds after you enter local

Jacques Archambault	Posted - 2006.06.21 20:36:00 - [33] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz yeah its especially thrilling when all the people in the belts log off 20 seconds after you enter local Being famous does have its downsides, doesn't it? forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website! Want to be an EVE-Online forum moderator? click here!

Sakura Nihil	Posted - 2006.06.21 20:49:00 - [34] Wouldn't be one bit surprised if the CRC mods ended up being mostly pirates ingame .
Nyabinghi	Posted - 2006.06.21 21:26:00 - [35] Originally by: Sakura Nihil Wouldn't be one bit surprised if the CRC mods ended up being mostly pirates ingame . I thought everybody who work for CCP was a pirate ingame and/or BoB. Hence the favoritism. I make cool banners for ISK.
Kilo Paskaa	Posted - 2006.06.21 21:29:00 - [36] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: Jacques Archambault They do it for the "squish" sound when you blow up a pod. But tbh, belt piracy can be a lot more fun instead of sitting at a gate. The joy of the hunt 4tw. YAAARRRRR!!!! yeah its especially thrilling when all the people in the belts log off 20 seconds after you enter local But hey, when you enter the system they will shout in their intel channels "oh **** Shamis Orzoz!! Save your own butt!". Now lets take look at this scenario *Kilo Paskaa enters the system. Intel channels fill with spam "oh that noob again, get a frigate or two to bust that junkie". Catch my drift? -------- Wtf iddqd?
Psycarne	Posted - 2006.06.21 22:03:00 - [37] Originally by: Shamis Orzoz Originally by: Jacques Archambault They do it for the "squish" sound when you blow up a pod. But tbh, belt piracy can be a lot more fun instead of sitting at a gate. The joy of the hunt 4tw. YAAARRRRR!!!! yeah its especially thrilling when all the people in the belts log off 20 seconds after you enter local That usually isn't an issue when the people you are belt pirating came to kill you. ------------- Order of the Wombles: Recycling those untidy modules on your ship.
Voculus	Posted - 2006.06.21 22:36:00 - [38] Quote: WTF is with gatecampers? I've seen a lot of replies to this question, and of course, they're all BS. Gate-campers are looking for EASY KILLS, and that's it.
TOPSTER	Posted - 2006.06.22 01:54:00 - [39] There is always gonna be fake pvpers blowing up unsuspecting people at gates. When you get further into the game you'll come back and kill them. M.Corp: If you got a pair we want em.
Mi Lai	Posted - 2006.06.22 03:48:00 - [40] Because they can.
JafoPBCFR	Posted - 2006.06.22 04:23:00 - [41] Originally by: Mi Lai Because they can. This is the Most Honest answer ive seen so far. The SIg They said suddenly I couldnt have
Frank Horrigan	Posted - 2006.06.22 07:24:00 - [42] Originally by: Jacques Archambault They do it for the "squish" sound when you blow up a pod. But tbh, belt piracy can be a lot more fun instead of sitting at a gate. The joy of the hunt 4tw. YAAARRRRR!!!! Yeah, I love warping in on a group of battle cruisers and cruisers npc hunting in 0.1 and such. You gotta pick witch to shoot first and all... P.S. Shoud I go to 0.0 to try and find battleships or, do any actuily npc in 0.1-0.4 anymore? cuz Im really bored of these die in 5 seconds battle cruisers and stuff.
Silane Daktor	Posted - 2006.06.22 08:08:00 - [43] I think ppl gatecamp because finding targets in belts is becoming really hard. I have spent the last few evenings wandering around Placid, and surrounds, trying to find a target. Apart from becoming fast with the scanner, I've had no joy I want to try gatecamping now, at least I'd get to blow stuff up
Arcticblue2	Posted - 2006.06.22 08:27:00 - [44] Well to be honest, those are not pirates.. they are gankers and they do it for the killboard, any other reasons they give is crap. Pirates hunt you down, and usually ransom you (not always). Have been living in low sec for quite some time and to be honest, get yourself bookmarks around to where you want to travel to, know wich gates that are frequently camped or systems pirates rage in... If you have bookmarks they usually can't gatecamp you (2 battleships atleast) and gank your battlecruiser... Also remember, a safespot is not safe in low sec.. many pirates know well how to bust your safespot as well as deadspace missionpockets. ---------------------------------------------- "When I was a child, I spoke as a child, I felt as a child, I thought as a child: now that I am become a man, I have put away childish things." 1 cor.
Dark Pearl	Posted - 2006.06.22 08:34:00 - [45] you shoud now whats there the be made with a well placed gate camp now and then greets dp
Kharak'khan	Posted - 2006.06.22 09:14:00 - [46] Well I pirate Belt hunt (ransom), Gate tank and snipe. Why do we do it because after a boring life in 0.0 killing random people makes me a happy and TBH is the only thing that keeps me playing this game. To pay for my crystals i have to destroy everything i can. Take for an example the Rookie in a shuttle with a 45 mill implant in the hold! Hence the kill all scenario. And its not safe at all even sniping the Merc Coalition have recently removed some of our ships (with some good tactics/ Dampening and rapid killing recon ships etc) which i respect. Use instas and dont whine when your slow ass ferox/ etc gets roasted on the way to the gate.
Quebber	Posted - 2006.06.22 11:44:00 - [47] Personally as a pirate i think im doing the world of eve a great favour by randomly blowing people up. This is because of a few reasons, but the main 1- Economics This is because if Pirates didnt blow ppl up then no one would need to buy a new ship, and then the person/corp who builds ships wouldnt get any cash, and the person/corp who mines the minerals wouldnt get any cash for the job they do! Its the circle of life! Without pirate, ship prices would be stupidly low, as no one would need a new 1 :P Well thats one reason i pirate, the other is... well... simplely... because i can!
Yarek Balear	Posted - 2006.06.22 11:52:00 - [48] I believe these "gatecampers" are performing an extremely important function in eve. It's not really anything to do with economics imo, there probably isn't enough of it around to have that effect. The fundamental function they perform is they create a tangeable difference between empire and low sec. If they did not exist, then the difference between the two would be negligeable and no one would even care what space they flew in. I think this split is important to eve mechanics. You have three tiers of space from relatively secure, through pretty insecure to complete free-for-all. A good balance I'd say.
JoeT	Posted - 2006.06.23 02:30:00 - [49] death threats... and not to my avatar but me. It is funny seeing how fast someone takes it from nothing more then a game to tell me to ** my mom and ** on my dad, your only 12!!1! LOLZ!1!, you got no life, ect, ect. But some victims wish to learn more about eve and pirating after they cross me. Today I made about 60 or so million. Could have been more if that BPO would have came thur... also, shuttles are great things to kill. BPOs and BPCs along with skill books fit so nicly in one. --- Murder Murder, yes indeed, K-I-L-L-I-N-G
Eecaj	Posted - 2006.06.23 05:46:00 - [50] Edited by: Eecaj on 23/06/2006 05:48:57 Edited by: Eecaj on 23/06/2006 05:47:18 Originally by: Leandro Salazar It enlarges their epeen. That is very important to some people. Do you mean epen or epencephalon. The segment of the brain next behind the midbrain, including the cerebellum and pons; the hindbrain. Sometimes abbreviated to epen. Summery, So its epen not epeen. Good day Kind Sir.
Meutrich	Posted - 2006.06.23 06:23:00 - [51] The main reason for me, to gate camp, is indeed making some ISK. There is no better way of income, if you decided to walk the pure piracy path, no NPCing, no missions as income. And besides the good loot (the best loot usually gets destroyed, me remembers a freighter skill book in a condor ...), there are a lot of other funny things, you can experience: - Funny chats and mails, like the one, who was ****ed of, because i shot him on an AFK travel and his three corp mates asking me, to kill him again because of the nice show he made in his corps chat ... - Sometimes the people, that have the balls to stand up and try to fight, so it is a pleasure of thinking about traps, decoys, counter traps... - Oh, and yes, the sound of a popping pod is awesome... No sig - no hassle
Taria Tring	Posted - 2006.06.23 12:27:00 - [52] One of these days CCP are going to stealth boost senties to the point where a Dread can't tank them for more than a few seconds, and where they outrange Any sniper in the game. The gate campers will cry louder than anyone that's ever been ganked. CCP will laugh heartily, and a week later change it back. Once the gankers realize that it's safe again and go back to their dastardly ways, CCP will reintroduce the changes. This will go on for ever. They will do this 1)Because they can. 2)Because it's fun. 3)Return to 1).
Merv Tring	Posted - 2006.06.23 12:28:00 - [53] /\ Accidental alt-posts for the lose, eh?
Deja Thoris	Posted - 2006.06.23 13:21:00 - [54] Originally by: Jacques Archambault They do it for the "squish" sound when you blow up a pod. But tbh, belt piracy can be a lot more fun instead of sitting at a gate. The joy of the hunt 4tw. YAAARRRRR!!!! Pfft, bet you only ever ransom roids
Ayame Mishima	Posted - 2006.06.23 13:29:00 - [55] Originally by: Deja Thoris Originally by: Jacques Archambault They do it for the "squish" sound when you blow up a pod. But tbh, belt piracy can be a lot more fun instead of sitting at a gate. The joy of the hunt 4tw. YAAARRRRR!!!! Pfft, bet you only ever ransom roids Give me all your ore or I take it with my Mining Laser? ================================= Damn cheaters.
Broomhilde	Posted - 2006.06.26 01:10:00 - [56] I got podded in .4 the other day right at the gate by a player in a carrier. He hit me with 3-4 Proton torpedos (I think) and if was over. I have nothing to steal, my ship is a little vexor, when I asked him why he did it he said "because I could". So theres your answer. Checking his info I saw he had a paltry 15 mil bounty on his head. I sent him a mail letting him know how low that bounty was and how lame he must be. His response was "F---you!" hehe, revenge is sweet!
Jex Jast	Posted - 2006.06.26 01:33:00 - [57] Originally by: Broomhilde I got podded in .4 the other day right at the gate by a player in a carrier. He hit me with 3-4 Proton torpedos (I think) and if was over. I have nothing to steal, my ship is a little vexor, when I asked him why he did it he said "because I could". So theres your answer. Checking his info I saw he had a paltry 15 mil bounty on his head. I sent him a mail letting him know how low that bounty was and how lame he must be. His response was "F---you!" hehe, revenge is sweet! Heh... "proton torpedoes" Watch Star Wars much? I don't recall ever seeing proton torpedoes in this game... ___________________________________________
cryptic edge	Posted - 2006.06.26 04:58:00 - [58] Alliances do it to cover entrances to their territory, pirates do it because the targets cant fight back usually. Pirates run when they hit a target that can, Alliances usually have a dozen or more covering the gate, their target dies. When I camp, I fit in the alliance side of things, never the pirate. If only ISS could secure their own damned space I wouldnt have to worry bout even camping as the alliance as much. Its kinda boring, you get your typical pirates who send in their alts, you blow them up, pirate never comes, 5 hours later you go home and the next shift takes over... Id rather rat or mine really as thats atleast more entertaining most the time counting bodies like sheep to the rythm of the war drum
Tomas Nuerin	Posted - 2006.06.26 08:19:00 - [59] Originally by: Leandro Salazar It enlarges their epeen. That is very important to some people. Yeah. Killboards...
OrangeAfroMan	Posted - 2006.06.26 09:02:00 - [60] Originally by: Motley Spacefarer the sad answer is because they can some ppl aparently like sitting by a gate shooting at everything that moves knowing that they are completely safe and cant get killed (because they are aligned and ready to warp out should anyone get to close) IMO gate campers are the lowest of low in eve but they are unfortunatlly part of life in eve as for why they do it its anyone's guess Apparently you've never sentry tanked while gate ganking, hehe. Gronsak is Tux's angry alt.
Frakri Hogsto	Posted - 2006.06.26 10:02:00 - [61] Originally by: parabellum88 last nite i got blown out of the sky in my ferox wit only 50 percent insurance on it (that was all i could afford)by 2 battleships gate camping in a 0.4. i no this is a unsecure spot but stil why would they do that. no ransom no threats just blowing people up. and then they podded me but thats not that big of a deal i didnt have important implants or anything. but the point of this is why gatecamp. why just blow other ppl up for no reason and have a sec lvl of -7.6 in like 15 mins. i dont see the point. Moved from General Discussion -Suvetar you should put pills in your sig instead of bullets, would make more sence
Inanara	Posted - 2006.10.05 07:19:00 - [62] Originally by: Eecaj Edited by: Eecaj on 23/06/2006 05:48:57 Edited by: Eecaj on 23/06/2006 05:47:18 Originally by: Leandro Salazar It enlarges their epeen. That is very important to some people. Do you mean epen or epencephalon. The segment of the brain next behind the midbrain, including the cerebellum and pons; the hindbrain. Sometimes abbreviated to epen. Summery, So its epen not epeen. Good day Kind Sir. No that's not what they meant dippy.. E-peen is a slang term meaning their exestential ***.. they have a tiny REAL * so their e-*** hardens and gives them pleasure whenver they do mean things
Celeste Storm Gallente Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.10.05 07:27:00 - [63] Originally by: gfldex They provide the risk that is ment to be in low sec. They provide the reason why low sec is EVEs ghost town and e-peen enlargement area. And they can now call themself PvPers. Which actually makes me smile. Cel. Compensate Forum Whines / Rank 8 / SP: 1886890 of 2560000
Plan Neun Caldari Ganja Unlimited	Posted - 2006.10.05 07:37:00 - [64] Edited by: Plan Neun on 05/10/2006 07:37:37 There is no style anymore among most of the pirates, its all killstats killstats killstats and a big hard ****, thats what counts. There is a few piratecorps left with some honor. Roleplaying yarrs is also dying out from the game and Eve current title reflect pretty much the change, cold players in cold war(s). "I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
GenePool Chlorinator	Posted - 2006.10.05 07:41:00 - [65] Necro'd by Inanara FTL
Red Ochre	Posted - 2006.10.05 07:50:00 - [66] Originally by: 5hakey Cus they wanna? Cus they find it fun? Cus it earns them isk? Cus they like to make ppl whine? Cus theres always people who ignore the blatent map warnings? Cus its only a game and they treat it as such? Theres a few points, pick your favourite. Cus their EMO'S?
Demonique Minmatar	Posted - 2006.10.05 08:02:00 - [67] This threads gone on long enough.... and allthough i ahve to admit that i havnt read it all.... im pretty certain that alot of it is flaming the OP for being such a whining nancy boy. I just wanted to add my 3 isk Your a whining nancy boy YARRR!!
Celeste Storm Gallente Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.10.05 08:20:00 - [68] Originally by: Demonique This threads gone on long enough.... and allthough i ahve to admit that i havnt read it all.... im pretty certain that alot of it is flaming the OP for being such a whining nancy boy. I just wanted to add my 3 isk Your a whining nancy boy YARRR!! begging for forum symp? yeah, join the masses! Cel. Compensate Forum Whines / Rank 8 / SP: 1886890 of 2560000
DarkElf Caldari Euphoria Released	Posted - 2006.10.05 09:24:00 - [69] I'll tell you what confuses me about these threads. Who doesn't like blowing things up? if the ppl complaining/confused about being destroyed really don't understand then just look at other games you have played. PPl enjoy to blow **** up, it's a fact. Who here hasn't played GTA or something similar and taken great pleasure from mowing down innocent civilians on the streets. was this profitable in any way, not really, was it great sport and a challenge, no, but it was really funny So why just because the thing ur blowing up has a real person controlling it, is it any different in eve. It's fun to watch things explode and know that u caused it. Now call it retarded, call it a deficiency of something in real life if you want, but i can't help thinking that if some ppl actually went out and tried commiting random acts of violence and destruction then everyone would enjoy it. At the end of the day it's boys and their toys, explosions, guns, fighting etc. and it's all great fun. DE
Commander Hades	Posted - 2006.10.05 10:14:00 - [70] yes eve is only a game but surly the fact that people spend alot of time in the game means that to many it is more than just a game becaue of the time & real life money spent there are those who can make real money form selling their millions of isk (rules??) for real money so some would argu that this is just a game but imo they are very narrow minded games are no fun if you keep getting the crap beaten out of you for no reason
Laythun Undercover Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.05 10:23:00 - [71] pfft jump in point piracy is teh best fun. All u anit pirate whiney muppets cant *** about it becuase we dont run stabs that close to a gate, and are never aligned. kill or be killed But thread necro 4tl Proud Member of the Anti Whine 14**
X ChaosX Caldari Panzershrek	Posted - 2006.10.05 10:53:00 - [72] Edited by: X ChaosX on 05/10/2006 10:54:42 Originally by: turnschuh Originally by: gfldex They provide the risk that is ment to be in low sec. yeah its like negative-concord, they shoot everything but when aggressed they run. Yes they should stay there and get blown up because thats the smart thing to do. Originally by: Inanara No that's not what they meant dippy.. E-peen is a slang term meaning their exestential ***.. they have a tiny REAL * so their e-* hardens and gives them pleasure whenver they do mean things Look out! Its an E-Thug! ______________________________________________ Originally by:** Bill Shankly i see your another one of those lousy pirates that cant fight fair and call yourself apvper, what a joke u are.
DarkElf Caldari Euphoria Released	Posted - 2006.10.05 11:17:00 - [73] Originally by: Commander Hades yes eve is only a game but surly the fact that people spend alot of time in the game means that to many it is more than just a game becaue of the time & real life money spent there are those who can make real money form selling their millions of isk (rules??) for real money so some would argu that this is just a game but imo they are very narrow minded games are no fun if you keep getting the crap beaten out of you for no reason Your point is completely retarded. You basically saying that for ppl that sell isk on ebay we are messing with their real life. well... good. i feel quite satisfied that i'm screwing up ppl that break the rules of eve and destroy the game for the rest of us by making money of a game that they shouldn't do. but this is just a game, whatever way u look at it. the game is designed so ppl going into low sec are afraid constantly of getting blown up. that's what the game designers want and if u don't like it then don't play the game. narrow minded no, true yes DE
Lifewire Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.10.05 11:18:00 - [74] Sum it up: There are several locations pirates can hunt: - 0.0 gates - low sec gates - 0.0 belts - low sec belts - 0.0 stations - low sec stations - complexes Now lest go into details: 0.0 gates: Camp an 0.0 gate is possible, but traffic is low. Zyrine and Megacyte transports are done with carriers since last patch. Large alliance blobs will intercept pirates. Haulers and freigthers are well escorted. Threat level: high Possible ISK: low 0.4 gates: Camp a low sec gate can be done with snipers or sentry tankers. Since sentry guns really hurt, sniping is the best option if you are alone. As team a mix of sentry tankers and snipers works smooth. Carebears bring everything to you an dont even try to warp away or fly in a 90 degree angle to your gunships. Bascially they act like lemmings and bring a lot of ISK. Piratehunters bring additional ISK when you kill them. Threat level: medium Possible ISK: high 0.0 belts: "Empty" is the best word. While Eve has thousands of belts, only few will contain a target. Once you enter local people instantly warp to safespot or log. Alliances will send out blob to kill you. Threat level: medium Possible ISK: low 0.4 belts: Empty - more targets than in 0.0, though. Once you found someone you might loot 2-3 miner IIs. Not to be compared to a low sec camp where carebears bring the whole corphangar to you. Threat level: low Possible ISK: low Complexes: 0.0 complexes are usually "camped" by alliances and they will sent all they have to keep pirates out. So if you show up with 2 ships you will 50 interceptors on your a$$. Low sec complexes are not very interesting. Like low sec belts you might loot some n00b stuff, but nothing really exiting. Threat level: High Possible ISK: low If you check the list, you will find out why camping a low sec gate is the most efficient way to pirate. You also will find out why it is good to use snipers, if possible combined with sentry tankers. The ISK are on the gates! Nobody brings a corphangar full of BPOs to a belt or complex. But everything that can be built, transported, refined or sold will be found on a low sec gate. Pirates want ISK! Forum:http://www.tundragon.com/forum/ Movies:http://www.tundragon.com/pub/eveclips Killboard:http://www.tundragon.com/
Nafri Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.05 11:39:00 - [75] Originally by: Jacques Archambault They do it for the "squish" sound when you blow up a pod. But tbh, belt piracy can be a lot more fun instead of sitting at a gate. The joy of the hunt 4tw. YAAARRRRR!!!! just to see 40 chinese to log out when you enter local -.- From Dusk till Dawn
DarkElf Caldari Euphoria Released	Posted - 2006.10.05 11:39:00 - [76] i disagree with a lot of the things u just said lifewire. complexes isk potential is extremely high as most ppl take faction bs or faction fitted bs into them. i've made a small fortune from killing complexers. secondly 0.0 is high threat lvl but also very high earning potential if ur good. risk v reward is quite balanced in eve atm. pvp'ers often use good equipment and carriers are still only owned by a very small percentage of eve and haulers are still used a lot with high end mins and equipment in. 0.0 belts i would say very few ppl log or instantly warp to ss as eve is full of plebs who stay there for ages after u enter local. the rest of what u said i fully agree with tho DE
Porter Hadlend Gallente Righteous-Indignation	Posted - 2006.10.05 11:43:00 - [77] Originally by: Broomhilde I got podded in .4 the other day right at the gate by a player in a carrier. He hit me with 3-4 Proton torpedos (I think) and if was over. I have nothing to steal, my ship is a little vexor, when I asked him why he did it he said "because I could". So theres your answer. Checking his info I saw he had a paltry 15 mil bounty on his head. I sent him a mail letting him know how low that bounty was and how lame he must be. His response was "F---you!" hehe, revenge is sweet! Carriers have no turrets or bays, so if it was a in carrier it would have been fighters or drones. A dreadnought could have hit you with Citadel Torpedoes.. but against a vexor O_o. Also.. he killed you so you smacked him? Erg. Poor form. --------------
LWMaverick Quam Singulari Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.10.05 11:44:00 - [78] rofl, whine some more? We do it for a living, just like you hug roids all day, or kill npc's in some boring lvl 2-3 mission. Try it for a change, kill some innocent people, and join the dark side People always try to psycho-analyse me, and try to involve my real life situation, and starts asking if i was sexually abused as a child, and things that are much worse.. I've come to the point where i seriously dont give a **** anymore. <3
General Coochie	Posted - 2006.10.05 11:50:00 - [79] Edited by: General Coochie on 05/10/2006 11:51:57 You say low-sec is a empty. Well then theres nothing stopping newer players for ratting there :) I myself ratted quite a bit in low-sec my first weeks in game, all you need is a fairly empty system. And since you can rat there in frigs and cruisers rewards are pretty nice considering the risks. Even if you do loose you frig it doesnt really matter. Low security isnt dangeorus if you know what you are doing. The most dangerous with low sec is gates (camps) . If you check map you hardly run into them. And with instas you can avoid some ppl trying to make some isk at gates and those occational ganks as someone talked about two posts upp. Ppl getting popped in belts in low sec areas are noobs not checking local and scanner. Or it is ppl that actually want to fight. Thats also the main reason why belt piracy in low-sec isnt very rewarding if you finally find someone not warping away they are mining in a vexor or smth and drop 4 mining lasers \o/
Lifewire Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.10.05 12:03:00 - [80] Edited by: Lifewire on 05/10/2006 12:04:21 Quote: i disagree with a lot of the things u just said lifewire. complexes isk potential is extremely high as most ppl take faction bs or faction fitted bs into them. i've made a small fortune from killing complexers. secondly 0.0 is high threat lvl but also very high earning potential if ur good. risk v reward is quite balanced in eve atm. pvp'ers often use good equipment and carriers are still only owned by a very small percentage of eve and haulers are still used a lot with high end mins and equipment in. 0.0 belts i would say very few ppl log or instantly warp to ss as eve is full of plebs who stay there for ages after u enter local. the rest of what u said i fully agree with tho This might be what you experienced. You CAN loot some nice stuff in complexes, i agree - but you WILL loot whole corphangars at gate. My big hits have all been at gates - i talk of billions of ISK and not 1-2 good named items. Did you ever loot 5 bil ISK in a complex??? No? I did at a gate. Forum:http://www.tundragon.com/forum/ Movies:http://www.tundragon.com/pub/eveclips Killboard:http://www.tundragon.com/
DarkElf Caldari Euphoria Released	Posted - 2006.10.05 12:17:00 - [81] Well that's fair enough i guess. I was just disagreeing with the 'low isk potential' implication for complexers which when u've killed 2 faction bs faction fitted and several other ships including a navy raven with 1.5bil in module i'd say they're not low gain. But ur right gate pirating is the most profitable pirating by far, but also the most boring DE
Lifewire Caldari TunDraGon	Posted - 2006.10.05 12:32:00 - [82] Quote: But ur right gate pirating is the most profitable pirating by far, but also the most boring It used to be, yes. But we experience more and more that piratehunters attack us daily. This way we get ISK and fun. On some days we get attacked very often. It¦s a nice cat and mouse game we play with them and i really start to like it. But yes, 1 year ago a low sec camp was boring, omg. You were lucky when you got attacked once per month. Forum:http://www.tundragon.com/forum/ Movies:http://www.tundragon.com/pub/eveclips Killboard:http://www.tundragon.com/
DarkElf Caldari Euphoria Released	Posted - 2006.10.05 13:28:00 - [83] Ahhh i guess so. not really done gate camping in a very long time. so you get the money and the fighting mixed with very short bouts of boredom. Guess it's nice when there are groups of anti-pie's about which i rarely seem to find. Well this all adds the explanations here. so gate camping is not only profitable in certain areas but can also stir up trouble which is what we like yarrrr DE
Jintoi	Posted - 2006.10.05 13:36:00 - [84] Garnet Strife is a classic gatecamper, just sits at Metserel gate all night. Attempting to enlarge his e-peen (yep mangina) by killing people in 2 or more vs 1. Super high skilled pvp that, zoneline camping...
DarkElf Caldari Euphoria Released	Posted - 2006.10.05 14:39:00 - [85] Originally by: Jintoi Garnet Strife is a classic gatecamper, just sits at Metserel gate all night. Attempting to enlarge his e-peen (yep mangina) by killing people in 2 or more vs 1. Super high skilled pvp that, zoneline camping... And how exactly do u know that's the reason for him doing it. maybe he isn't interested in the sport when he's doing that. maybe he doesn't care if it's a challenge he just wants to blow stuff up and have fun. and maybe your just some egit using an alt to slate someone when u have never pvp'd in ur life. just maybe sigh... breath DE
Gift Amarr Loot	Posted - 2006.10.05 14:42:00 - [86] ZOMBIE THREAD! IT's after your... BRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!! Pirates of Eve, Join channel "Pirate" Today!
Keta Min Pre-nerfed Tactics Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.10.05 17:40:00 - [87] Originally by: Commander Hades games are no fun if you keep getting the crap beaten out of you for no reason = games are no fun when you lose did people like playing chess or monopoly with you and your mentality?
MrMann Bastage Incorporated	Posted - 2006.10.05 20:32:00 - [88] Edited by: MrMann on 05/10/2006 20:33:03 I try to remain poliet and give honest answers to those my Corp kills when they have questions such as this. Just saying shaddup noob is both rude and not good for the game as a whole IMHO. So in that vein: There are several reasons my Corp or any other PvP Corp kills and pods. 1) Politics. Currently my Corp is attempting to close certain areas of Lonetrek to ALL traffic other than those set to "blue" by the Alliance we are working with. This means we kill and pod everyone not set to blue. No ransoming. No talking. No negotiating. It's low sec, obviously, and thus an area that can be claimed to an extent by various groups. 2) Money. We kill to see what ya got. Yes, haulers usually have the best loot but I have found absolute treasures in shuttles. You would not believe what some people will haul in a shuttle. BPOs for example. Remember, at a gate camps we don't have time to talk, scan, or think about it. Otherwise you'll either jump or warp away. We shoot first, then see what ya got. 3) Ransom? Pain in the butt. We don't do it. It's just too dicey with current game mechanics. Also, since we are at a gate we cannot hang around and talk as that usually ends up getting us killed. Ransoming in a belt however is different. 4) Why pod? One, we have been asked to. Two, it gets you out of system so you can't warn everyone in local where we are. Three, soon we will be able to loot your corpse for implants (I think) if so . . . well more podding to be expected. 5) We can't be killed so it is not fair? This is incorrect. Pirates get killed often. I've been killed often. It happens. Usually by my making a mistake against a foe that has his act together. I've been killed sniping. I've been killed at close range camping. I've been killed period. LOL. Bottom line is when we add up our profits and losses we are still ahead. What can you do? 1) USE THE (#&)#&(^#&^#&)^ MAP!!! If you see an area that has several kills and pod kills in the last hour that should tell you something. 2) USE A )(#)&#^&# scout!! Yes, I know this doesn't work for the solo player. 3) Warp Core stabs and Nano fibers are your friend. 4) INSTAS!!! Use em. 5) Don't be a target. Are you really flying in low sec in a hauler, alone, without instas?? You so deserve to die. 6) Don't carry what you cannot afford to lose in low sec. If absolutely necessary . . . Fly in a gang, use the map, use instas, kit your ship for survival, etc. etc. 7) DON'T SMACK TALK THE PIRATES!!! Well at least until you are OUT of the system. Otherwise you will be hunted down and killed with glee. 8) If trapped in a system . . . don't sit in one Safe Spot. You;ll get probed out and killed. Also, talk to the pirates. See if you can work out a deal for you to leave the system alive. These are just some short thoughts I jotted down quickly. There is obviously more. The bottom line however is that in low sec and 0.0 you are always a target to someone. Plan accordingly. _______________________________________________ Proud Member of the Greater Tribute Security Service.*
milinkoee Bastage Incorporated	Posted - 2006.10.05 22:52:00 - [89] MrMann does it cuz he wasn't hugged enough as a child, for the record.

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