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Cyber God
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Posted - 2006.06.22 15:08:00 -
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I am just curious what Amarian PVP ships do you guys fly.
I've been using Retribution for quite some time, but I want to explore some more posibilities.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.06.22 15:14:00 -
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My most used AF is Vengeance (Probably my fifth most used ship, although stats on MC killboard doesn't show ship usage prior to MC inception), although I prefere to use Zealot or Armageddon for Amarr PvP - though I have yet to get large pulse laser spec skill.
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Angus McLein
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Posted - 2006.06.22 15:18:00 -
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I like the Apocolypse but its very tricky to set up. If you get the tanking wrong in lows then your screwed. So yeah I like tha armageddon. I havent touched the Zealot yet though.
Id say best to use for-
Cruisers: Arbitrator/Maller
Battleship: Armageddon (most used over apoc)
Hac: Zealot
so on ect...
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Twilight Moon
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Posted - 2006.06.22 15:31:00 -
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Geddon. Love it in PvP. 
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Lisento Slaven
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Posted - 2006.06.22 15:44:00 -
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The ones I think are the best....Arbitrator...Curse...Armageddon.
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Nyxus
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Posted - 2006.06.22 15:46:00 -
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The Amarr ships are fairly clear cut in pvp.
Frigates - Pretty much crap, both T1 and T2. Other races can do almost everything an Amarr frig can do, with easier fitting on most. If you are low sp's the Punisher can be ok, but Rifter is a better choice for T1 frig.
Cruisers - The Arbitrator is hands down the best. It's distinguished from the Vexxor by the extra mid even while lacks in every other department in comparison to the Vexxor. Anything an Omen or Maller can do a Ruppie or Rax can do, and more besides. Don't bother with them.
Hac - Zealot is ~meh~. Honestly a Vagabond is a MUCH better choice. If you have time on your side an Ishtar can't be beat in terms of flexibility and firepower. If you want all out ganka setup the Deimos puts out more dps and it allows you to fly the Ishtar as well.
Recons - Both the Pilgrim and Curse are GREAT. Combine an amarr recon with a matari recon, interdicor and damage dealer for OMGWTFPWNAGE action.
Battlecruisers - All have MAJOR agility/sig rad issues. Brutix is pretty much on par with a Prophecy, although personally I find the Brutix to be more flexible with the huge drone bay and extra mid. Assuming that both ships fit 2 med rep II's and are T2 fitted they can be very difficult to break. Astarte and Absolution are both classed here and are good ships, but handle almost indistinguishably from BS.
Battleship - Geddon is the only one worth it's salt. Apoc is for mining, thats about it. Some 4 nos/4 megapulse II setups are ok on the Poc but the Geddon can do almost anything the Poc can do, and have greater DPS besides.
Sad, but the truth. Arbi, Recons, and the Geddon is about the only thing Amarr has going for it at the moment. Those ships really shine, while the rest are pretty lackluster/inferior/lack a worthwhile niche. I discount the Prophecy and Brutix untill they handle more like cruisers, where now they are so close to BS handling to be pointless.
Nyxus
 Originally by: Tux
The thought of a missile spewing armor tanking cool black looking ship makes me happy in the pants
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Malagar
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Posted - 2006.06.22 15:55:00 -
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Crusader, omen, geddon
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Xendie
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Posted - 2006.06.22 16:07:00 -
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pilgrim, arbitrator
Originally by: F'nog
This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.
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Khadur
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Posted - 2006.06.22 16:09:00 -
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Edited by: Khadur on 22/06/2006 16:10:23
Mostly geddon & crusader so far
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Dorah Hawkwing
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Posted - 2006.06.22 16:12:00 -
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Coercer, Omen, Vengeance, Arbitrator, and on occasion Augurers. |
korrey
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Posted - 2006.06.22 16:18:00 -
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Tell me honestly who uses Aurgorors? No one. They arent for single anything. And omens are too hard to fit for any kind of pvp. Go against a Caracal, Moa, Thorax, Vexor. Lol actually go against ANYTHING in an omen and youll lose.
Amarr isnt for pvp other than a few T2 ships and the armageddon. (Start praying that the Tier 3 BS will slightly redeem amarr.
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O'Sirius
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Posted - 2006.06.22 16:22:00 -
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Crusader, Malediction, Zealot, Curse and Pilgrim. Never tried Geddon, too slow for my taste.
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Angus McLein
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Posted - 2006.06.22 16:25:00 -
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Originally by: O'Sirius
Crusader, Malediction, Zealot, Curse and Pilgrim. Never tried Geddon, too slow for my taste.
Crusader/Malediction? Any other race can use Inty's and Assault ships just as good only with easier fitting and more slots.
Zealot is fair I have to agree. Curse/Pilgrim are also good. But thats it. Out of 24 amarr ships we can only find 4 that are good for anything pvp related, Zealot, Cruse, Pilgrim, and Armageddon.
Amarr is a broken race. Fix it DEVs.
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Weirda
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Posted - 2006.06.22 16:26:00 -
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Edited by: Weirda on 22/06/2006 16:33:57
weirda use the following (amarr) for pvp:
frig: crusader/malediction/vengeance (solo 0.0 - if you can find 1v1s, these ship are all great for it)
cruiser: arbitrator/maller/omen
arbitrator is amazing with good skill. the maller can generally outlast it opponent (1v1) or hold some long enough for cavalry, but it will pop when they get there (lol), omen can be very successful gank ship (~400dps w/non-maxed spec), but when set up that way it is pretty (not completely) fragile.
augregor... well, dude above have that right. only 'funny' thing have seen with that is Hans had screenie with one set up over 40k armor or something (was a navy one, and he had slaves) but still... could probably tank for a while in it (lol).
pilgrim/curse/zealot/sac: weirda have all, but very rarely pvp in them. with the recons, ppl generally run like children unless they have overwealming odds (or lot of ecm), and while zealot and sac are both actually great (have had very great success against odds in the past with them) they are (any ship is) still to easily lost to a gank, or a bait/switch (get a good even pvp going and suddenly 'X' dude jump through and you screwed). 
angus, with all due respect, you are wrong (iwho). amarr is different race and flown differently then others. having skill up in amarr ship don't mean that you gonna have 'win' button, but they can be very successful at taking out ship that other races have difficulty with (long range crow/superduperuber shield tanked ferox or anything that generally take too long to chew through with other race.
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Zyrtan Keb'Lektar
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Posted - 2006.06.22 17:08:00 -
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Zealot, curse and pilgrim
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DeadDuck
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Posted - 2006.06.22 17:14:00 -
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Big majority of amarr ships are good and some are really good.
At present Amarr are suffering heavily with the ECM abuse and ECM overpower.
They lack by nature mid slots except on the arbitrator line and tec 2 linage ( curse+pilgrim ) that are no doubt the best recon ships out there.
I see people saying that other ships make better dps and so on but a ship is not only that, there is a huge amount of factors that make a ship good or bad, and the DPS capability is only 1 of them, tank, cap, grid, etc, etc, make all the diference.
Due to their predictable fits Amarr ships need a lot of training before you are actually good flying one.
For instance flying a Zealot with HAC level 4, med pulse spec, level 4 , surgical strike level 4 is completly diferent of all those skills at level 5, but we are talking about 2 months of training only for 3 skills 
Usually they are alsow close range combat, that makes them no forgiving if you are lacking skills.
TBH the amarr ships shine when you have enough training.
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Forsch
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Posted - 2006.06.22 17:15:00 -
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I used to fly the arbitrator into pvp (solo and small gangs) but since the arbi is feared for its ecm capabilities (read: med slots), you're often primary target or get only engaged if outnumbered (if solo).
Omen is quite okay in a gang where you need dps. Not so much against minmatar but other ships especially shield tanks and wcs fitting people (since they dont have a tank). But the decrease in damage because of higher average EM resistance sure shows. There are cruisers that can deal more dps.
I'm not using battleships much since I prefer small ships. The interceptors both suck especially against minmatar (my most common enemy).
Soon I'll have the skills for the curse/pilgrim.. gonna see how that works out. Probably not the pilgrim because I don't have the isk to put into those damn covert cloaks.
Oh and I used an artillery punisher with quite some success. Killed 2 claws with it. 
Forsch
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Cyber God
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Posted - 2006.06.22 19:23:00 -
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Thanks for the info.
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Imperial Coercion
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Posted - 2006.06.22 19:28:00 -
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After exlusively flying Amarr for more than 2 years I can safely say that the only ships worth flying is Pilgrim, Arbi and Armageddon.
The rest is blatantly rubbish.
Amarr needs love from the devs damnit!. |
Ginaz
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Posted - 2006.06.22 19:49:00 -
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Crusader - Sacre - Pilgrim - Geddon
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Nikolai Nuvolari
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Posted - 2006.06.22 20:02:00 -
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Armageddon.
Also the Arbitrator/Curse/Pilgrim seems to be outstanding PVP ships, but I don't fly them as I dislike/never trained EWar and drones.
The Omen COULD be a great ship, but it needs more grid and CPU...in exchange, the launcher slot should be taken off. 4/0 split with one utility slot.
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Aeaus
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Posted - 2006.06.22 20:07:00 -
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Malediction, Crusader, and Armageddon is all I fly for PVP =/ Occationally I might take a retribution out, but otherwise nothing else. That being said, these three ships are amazing =)
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Eximius Josari
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Posted - 2006.06.22 23:01:00 -
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I only really like the Armageddon, my Crusader is my uber shuttle.
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VonKaplanek III
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Posted - 2006.06.22 23:33:00 -
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I like Coercers, geddons and apocs.
Coercer- Death to frig class ships!!!
Apoc- Great Sniper and miner
Geddon- PvP beast(DOT)
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Exiled One
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Posted - 2006.06.22 23:36:00 -
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Amarr Shuttle.
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Deva Blackfire
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Posted - 2006.06.22 23:39:00 -
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Pilgrim and Curse
sometimes Heretic but only because im 100% amarr specced (otherwise it would be catcher or sabre).
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NUBIARN
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Posted - 2006.06.23 00:13:00 -
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curse, hands down 1 of the best pvp ships 1v1 without a doubt
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Sniperpirate
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Posted - 2006.06.23 00:13:00 -
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hold on ppl what about the absolutiona and damnation...more powerful than zealot :)
appoc is nice with t2 tachs for fleet battes :)
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Novarei
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Posted - 2006.06.23 00:18:00 -
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Geddon all the way.
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Imperial Coercion
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Posted - 2006.06.23 10:48:00 -
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Originally by: Sniperpirate
hold on ppl what about the absolutiona and damnation...more powerful than zealot :)
Hehe personally I had forgotten about those since I dont fly em. -10 charisma, will take to long to train
Amarr needs love from the devs damnit!. |
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