Virtually none of the ratting ships are manned by humans anymore, its all automatic programming - local has a neut - warp to pos.

Because, obviously, no human would warp to a POS when neuts show up in localGǪ

Because, obviously, no human would warp to a POS when neuts show up in localGǪ

not that quickly and not that consistently across multiple regions with no prior warning, no.

Then maby you need to get better at probing.

I have a max skilled high-grade implanted prober alt; my tackle has warp speed mods to the hilt - and STILL the ships get away more often then not.

CCP, do something about the damn botting in null pockets. If you cant do that, introduce at least a 5 second delay to local. 5 seconds, thats not too much to ask is it??

And you know they had no prior warningGǪ how? Especially if you kick up a fuss across multiple systems and regions.

Oh, and why can't they warp to a POS as quickly? It's not like it's rocket science to do so.

i drop from wormholes or bridge from systems with no eyes posted to them.

trust me when i say there is a problem with bots running rampant.

[quote=LUMINOUS SPIRIT]i drop from wormholes or bridge from systems with no eyes posted to them.

Pointless whining

OP, you call these people bots while your only proof is your own 'skill'. If I have to choose between all people being bots or you not being as skilful as you think you are, I choose the latter.

when i spawn a fresh k162 to null and enter it, THERE IS NO WARNING.

[quote=Victoria Sin]To be honest I'm surprised you get any warpable hits at all. If their intel is working properly they should be safe when you're 2 jumps out, not when you come into system.

i bypass intel channels. when i enter local, its the first time they see me.

post on your main or GTFO

To be honest I'm surprised you get any warpable hits at all. If their intel is working properly they should be safe when you're 2 jumps out, not when you come into system.



So your character arrives in system local a second or two before you land on grid. Your 5 second scan is 5 seconds but 7-9 seconds have already passed (you had to de-cloak and launch probes). Another 8 seconds to warp to them is 15-17 in total and that's long enough for a battleship or smaller to GTFO. I's more than long enough if he's aligned to a safe, which he might be if his intel channel sucks (which it obviously does).

I posted with my main and all you did was throw my hilarious kill board in my face,
I think we found the problem.

and this is the problem. hunting as it stands is just heavily-biased towards a ratter. Null is supposed to be risky. Where is the risk when the BEST hunters are seen from 15-20 seconds away?

Just because a risk can be mitigated by paying attention does not mean it doesn't exist. The risk is right there and is as high as ever.

I jump into system, have a warpable hit on a scorp navy issue in 4.6 seconds. Land on him in another 5-7 seconds, and he is gone.

Jump into a system, have a hit on a noctis in 5 seconds. Land in another 8, he is gone.

Jump into system, have a hit on an ishtar in 5 seconds. Land in 8-9 seconds, he is gone.

Jump into a system, get a hit on machariel in 4 seconds; land in 5-6 seconds, he is off the field.

in all cases they all warp to a renter pos.

I encounter this dozens of times every day. I have been doing my hunting for years; it is getting worse and worse. Virtually none of the ratting ships are manned by humans anymore, its all automatic programming - local has a neut - warp to pos.

I have a max skilled high-grade implanted prober alt; my tackle has warp speed mods to the hilt - and STILL the ships get away more often then not.

CCP, do something about the damn botting in null pockets. If you cant do that, introduce at least a 5 second delay to local. 5 seconds, thats not too much to ask is it??

EDIT - what is the point of combat probes if the hunter using them does not stand a chance of success? EVE is all about reasonable chance; a ratter should have a reasonable chance to escape; a hunter should have a reasonable chance to catch prey. As it is, the balance is tipped too heavily towards the ratter.

I jump into system, have a warpable hit on a scorp navy issue in 4.6 seconds. Land on him in another 5-7 seconds, and he is gone.

Jump into a system, have a hit on a noctis in 5 seconds. Land in another 8, he is gone.

Jump into system, have a hit on an ishtar in 5 seconds. Land in 8-9 seconds, he is gone.

Jump into a system, get a hit on machariel in 4 seconds; land in 5-6 seconds, he is off the field.

in all cases they all warp to a renter pos.

I encounter this dozens of times every day. I have been doing my hunting for years; it is getting worse and worse. Virtually none of the ratting ships are manned by humans anymore, its all automatic programming - local has a neut - warp to pos.

I have a max skilled high-grade implanted prober alt; my tackle has warp speed mods to the hilt - and STILL the ships get away more often then not.

CCP, do something about the damn botting in null pockets. If you cant do that, introduce at least a 5 second delay to local. 5 seconds, thats not too much to ask is it??

EDIT - what is the point of combat probes if the hunter using them does not stand a chance of success? EVE is all about reasonable chance; a ratter should have a reasonable chance to escape; a hunter should have a reasonable chance to catch prey. As it is, the balance is tipped too heavily towards the ratter.

Translation: I'm very bad at hunting, it MUST be bots.

Why are you probing for ships inn ANOMALIES in the 1st place. CCP gave you'hunters' a gift in that the staple null sec pve activity dones't require probes to find. You should be D-Scanning and whatever anoms are in 5% is where you warp. launching probes at all gives a warning to alert ratters AND costs you precious seconds that helps them get into warp.

Isn't it typical of these forums for someone to be very very bad at something and all of a sudden it's not them but rather something CCP should be changing?

I am observing the same as the OP.
I also support a delayed local apparition, as well as a delayed k162 in both w-space amd null sec.

I am not spending the 4 or 5 sec required to pinpoint a target, coming out of a K162 that has just been spawned, I mainly do a d-scan and warp to a anomaly in range or not in range according to d-scan.. This saves these precious 4 to 7 seconds, but still with that I very rarely catch anything.

I would not go as far as the OP and say that all are bots, I believe they are not, they are just aligned to,POS and ready to warp out.

Fundamentally, solo hunting in null sec is kind of pointless at the moment. It is better in w-space though...

Null sec carebears have it too easy., but that is what CCP wants.