How much risk is associated with a nullified covert T3 traveling a half dozen system to light a covert cyno?

Some != None

Black-Ops had there Jump/bridge range increased a few iterations ago... rightly so... range was crap.

With this change a black-ops will be able to move outside the jump range with ease...
30 secounds or 1 minute delay... that what it takes for them to cap up...

Now... You and your friends are having a BLOPS fleet night... you chill in station waiting for scouts and tackle to catch something... Today you are limited by the jump/bridge range or for cynos in mid-points .... with this change your not limited anymore...

It also gives them the ability to GTFO whenever... "You get in a tight spot! Just jump next door".
A random spot 1-5 AU from the sun... "Perfect! Couldn't be safer!"

I did BLOPS fleet almost every-day for the past 8-9 months, toke a break last month.... these changes would "make my day"!
I just think it makes it too easy.

In order to bring the BLOPs to a system, yes, you would lock onto the star and pop to a random point nearby.

In order to bring in ANY other ships, the BLOPs would then need to light a cyno or covert cyno, depending on what was doing the bridging.

So, you either have a fleet consisting of billion ISK hull & fitting combinations, or you are using one to light a cyno.
Either way, I see high risk, and BLOPs in the field itself, not just opening bridge portals at a safe and secure staging area.

As to using the jump to get out of trouble, this assumes no point has been applied, unless I missed something.

I'm against because it's a change that bring nothing new. You made bridging still require a cyno but that's only an illusion of not being able to bridge wherever you want because you were to need a BLOP on the other system anyway to bridge the gang back home so he can bling jump, light his own cyno and you the bridge the fleet without having to slow boat a cyno to that system. It's basicly a **** ton of code to save people the hassle of having a cyno alt slowboating around.

How is the black ops that jumped able to bridge the fleet to him with the cyno he lit? Maybe I am misreading what you wrote.

How is the black ops that jumped able to bridge the fleet to him with the cyno he lit? Maybe I am misreading what you wrote.

Heh, yeah. He also missed the idea that this "cyno-less" jumping ability would not allow a cyno to be fitted to the ship that's jumping.

Why the "cyno-less"! I don't get it why its OP to jump and ligth cyno for a bridge for bombers and recons and its not OP to just use blak-ops and don't use a cyno at all.

Heh, yeah. He also missed the idea that this "cyno-less" jumping ability would not allow a cyno to be fitted to the ship that's jumping.

Right, so you definitely can't jump if you're pointed or in a bubble. That's nothing new.

Also, in my vision of this concept, the black ops cannot fit both a cyno generator and this new prototype jump drive. I think this is necessary to avoid using a single black ops jump into a system and then light a covert cyno.

I think that it should require 2 black ops to be able to leap frog around. Especially if the only cyno they can fit are covert ops to prevent caps from taking advantage of it. I view black ops and covert ops as I do in RL. They are the elite. they have tools, gear and abilities that no one else has or can do.

They could possibly balance it with not only making it difficult to fit cloak, JPG, and covert cyno plus rest of fitting, but also modify fleet mechanics to recognize ship types and only allow max of 2 BLOPs in a fleet.

I would not be too quick to pull that from the table, and I would like to point out why.

This jump tactic only fits two situations, in my opinion, with any real probable chance.

1. Time is short, and the cyno boat would not be able to reach before players critical to success needed to leave.

2. The systems are so well locked down, that use of the regular cyno boat has been discouraged. This makes the target area a prized opportunity for demonstrating that null sec can be dangerous anywhere.

I would point out that a battleship hull, uncloaked as needed for even a covert cyno, would not be a great challenge to scan down.
It would also be very likely to me, that seeing this ship land would inspire many proficient scanning pilots to become alert and hunting for the ship to do just that, decloak for a cyno, so it could be nailed in the act.

The other situation is when a fleet wants to travel longer distances without moving the cyno ahead of them.

But I do think black ops can't be allowed to jump without a cyno, just to light a cyno.

In my thinking, the BLOPs exists only to plant the covops boats, and get them out as needed. Any other use just feels like a novelty to me.

Get 6 of them. Jump them all at once into the different mining/plexing systems of someone you dont like. Sit around and watch as the bears go into panicmode. Might be a novelty but certainly great. Also could be used to get past gate camps to attack things. (Or just jump into a heavily camped system to relay the fleet makeup of the camp).

I could probably think of a dozen new things that could be done in the scouting and harassing line of duty, with the new blops. And im sure others can think of more

The only way see this idea have any use is to not have the cyno restriction and spool time.... special rig... hum maybe.
Other wise I don't see much use for it outside blops-only fleets. Even then...

Yes, but you can drive players just as crazy with a shuttle, so long as they don't realize you are harmless.

In other threads, we have had first person testimony explaining how they went into a system, and noone bothered to actually verify if they were even cloaked, let alone considered dangerous. Noob ships, not even loaded with a cyno, have managed to lock down systems before.

Using a full fledged BLOPs for this seems a bit overkill, to me. But I gotta give you this much, it has style.
The limousine of AFK cloaking, as it were.

Scouting is another issue, as you really can't warp onto grid without exposing yourself. Knowing you can't warp cloaked keeps you in the dark by necessity.

I actually never considered all of that- I think it's an interesting idea, but I feel like the idea would/could get a lot of backlash. If anything, it would take a whole discussion of it's own, talking about the benefits or potential exploits- there's a lot that could work but a lot that could go wrong too.

That said, mapping wormholes with black ops would still be pretty fun