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KilROCK
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Posted - 2006.06.25 05:48:00 -
[61]
 Originally by: Killer Dragon
Originally by: Shadowsword
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
[Amarr:
Drone bonus and armor resist.
The Abaddon has 7 or 8 guns, as shown in the last video, so a 10% cap reduction/lvl is a given. That or a capacitor twice as big as others BS, and that's not going to happen...
WHat video?
No other destiny
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Lisento Slaven
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Posted - 2006.06.25 06:26:00 -
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Yeah...give us Amarr another gunboat. We aren't allowed to have anything else =P
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Pesadel0
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Posted - 2006.06.25 08:49:00 -
[63]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 24/06/2006 14:57:54
Guess ;p
Minmatar:
Target painting and Cruise/Torp ROF bonus.
Just pod yourself ....
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Ephemeron
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Posted - 2006.06.25 08:59:00 -
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I think the target painting bonus on minmatar bs would be good if it was +10% per level, not +5%.
There are many specialized +10 bonuses, like tracking, range, EW strength, drone damage
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.06.25 09:10:00 -
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Well i think the mini bonus is just fitting , even if it is makes em weaker i dotn care , i hate em anyway :P 
As for the caldari BS optimal range and shield resist makes it a weird combo ,kinda liek the eagle but hting is rails need a dmg increase tbh i rather sacrifice my shield resist in order to get more dmg sicne it doenst matter diddly squat when ur sniping at an enemy fleet but thats just meh .
Gallnte one is deffo gonan be a blaster boat i recon sicne sensor dampoening and turret dmg will make a nice combo so its cool.
Amarr one is a big  I am pretty sure it looked liek a nice gun boat and i was hoping it would get soem turret bonus but drone bonus also wracks it to the close raneg setups category unless we play with sentries .
The minin will be the minmatar version of he raven and tbh Target paintign plus cruise or torps is quite a nasty thing spechialy if ur usign T2 cruise or torps so i 'd say its cool for those having 10 mill in missiles .
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xeom
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Posted - 2006.06.25 09:19:00 -
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A minie raven wouldn't be that bad.Hell with a armor tank i would LOVE it.
Also on the side of the amarr
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Amarr:
Drone bonus and armor resist."
Holy crap time to train amarr.That thing should crush anything pfft who needs the domi.
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.06.25 09:24:00 -
[67]
Originally by: xeom
A minie raven wouldn't be that bad.Hell with a armor tank i would LOVE it.
Also on the side of the amarr
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Amarr:
Drone bonus and armor resist."
Holy crap time to train amarr.That thing should crush anything pfft who needs the domi.
Oii , dont u start on the domi
on a side not o/ 
"What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.06.25 09:47:00 -
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:-/ actually I would like to see a 7.5% to Rof and 5% to Tracking or 7.5% Rof/10% to Drone Damage and HP
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Jon Xylur
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Posted - 2006.06.25 10:04:00 -
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Giving Amarr the best drone ship, Minmtar the bets missile ship and Caldari the ebst turret ship would kinda screw the race's roles. And Gallente would be left with a sucky damp ship.
Caldari will be a railgun sniping platform. Thet's pretty much confirmed. For the rest, Gallenet will probbaly be a dmap ship. I seriously doubt they'd make Amarr the new best drone race just because thye ahve 1 drone carrying cruiser and it's tech 2 version. For Minmatar, no idea but hopefully not a sucky painter ship.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 10:07:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: xeom
A minie raven wouldn't be that bad.Hell with a armor tank i would LOVE it.
Also on the side of the amarr
"
Amarr:
Drone bonus and armor resist."
Holy crap time to train amarr.That thing should crush anything pfft who needs the domi.
Oii , dont u start on the domi
on a side not o/
The Real Abaddon
King of locusts...
Drones, armor tanking, ...
Yum yum.
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Frakri Hogsto
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Posted - 2006.06.25 10:09:00 -
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we aint getting mining bs's?
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Loki
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Posted - 2006.06.25 10:12:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Balklanac
I think TP bonus and ROF cruise/torps actually works...depending on how many slots the ship gets for the missiles
6 missiles, 2 guns hardpoints.
8/6/6?
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.06.25 11:25:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: xeom
A minie raven wouldn't be that bad.Hell with a armor tank i would LOVE it.
Also on the side of the amarr
"
Amarr:
Drone bonus and armor resist."
Holy crap time to train amarr.That thing should crush anything pfft who needs the domi.
Oii , dont u start on the domi
on a side not o/
The Real Abaddon
King of locusts...
Drones, armor tanking, ...
Yum yum.
/me likes this description a lot
Ty jenny
"What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 11:52:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
Originally by: xeom
A minie raven wouldn't be that bad.Hell with a armor tank i would LOVE it.
Also on the side of the amarr
"
Amarr:
Drone bonus and armor resist."
Holy crap time to train amarr.That thing should crush anything pfft who needs the domi.
Oii , dont u start on the domi
on a side not o/
The Real Abaddon
King of locusts...
Drones, armor tanking, ...
Yum yum.
/me likes this description a lot
Ty jenny
Welcome. Anything to make the community happy.
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Forsch
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Posted - 2006.06.25 11:55:00 -
[75]
Originally by: Jon Xylur
I seriously doubt they'd make Amarr the new best drone race just because thye ahve 1 drone carrying cruiser and it's tech 2 version.
The arbitrator is tech1. Also the tier3 battleships aren't supposed to be better than the other two tiers, just different. I don't see a problem in giving the Amarrians a drone ship, it doesn't mean it is better than the dominix.
You all seem to be thinking these are official stats. Aren't those just guesses, Jenny?
As some have said already, the Abaddon (sp?) has 8 turret slots according to the video. There is no way it won't have a laser cap reduction bonus. Looking at the other drone ships currently in game I doubt a boat with a full rack of turrets will have a drone bonus.
Too bad really, cause I was really hoping for a big arbitrator. 
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 11:57:00 -
[76]
Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 25/06/2006 11:59:15
Originally by: Forsch
Originally by: Jon Xylur
I seriously doubt they'd make Amarr the new best drone race just because thye ahve 1 drone carrying cruiser and it's tech 2 version.
The arbitrator is tech1. Also the tier3 battleships aren't supposed to be better than the other two tiers, just different. I don't see a problem in giving the Amarrians a drone ship, it doesn't mean it is better than the dominix.
You all seem to be thinking these are official stats. Aren't those just guesses, Jenny?
As some have said already, the Abaddon (sp?) has 8 turret slots according to the video. There is no way it won't have a laser cap reduction bonus. Looking at the other drone ships currently in game I doubt a boat with a full rack of turrets will have a drone bonus.
Too bad really, cause I was really hoping for a big arbitrator.
Yaaaar, only guesses. Who knows, CCP can still change them. They arent out yet...
Slot could be 6/4/8 for high, mid, low. 4 turrets, 1 missile hardpoint?
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.06.25 12:03:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Forsch
Originally by: Jon Xylur
I seriously doubt they'd make Amarr the new best drone race just because thye ahve 1 drone carrying cruiser and it's tech 2 version.
The arbitrator is tech1. Also the tier3 battleships aren't supposed to be better than the other two tiers, just different. I don't see a problem in giving the Amarrians a drone ship, it doesn't mean it is better than the dominix.
You all seem to be thinking these are official stats. Aren't those just guesses, Jenny?
As some have said already, the Abaddon (sp?) has 8 turret slots according to the video. There is no way it won't have a laser cap reduction bonus. Looking at the other drone ships currently in game I doubt a boat with a full rack of turrets will have a drone bonus.
Too bad really, cause I was really hoping for a big arbitrator.
I got nps with amarrs gettign a droen boat i just have a problem acceptign it on story lien basis , the amarr as a race are not drone masters as the galalntes who solely have the extensive knoweldge to make thie ships utilize droens as a weapon more effectivly than any other race , as far as story line goes for me its like having a gallnate BS or BC with bonus to laser turrets  I dunno if i am the only one seeing this but it doenst sound right to me at all just on history basis .
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 12:27:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel
I got nps with amarrs gettign a droen boat i just have a problem acceptign it on story lien basis , the amarr as a race are not drone masters as the galalntes who solely have the extensive knoweldge to make thie ships utilize droens as a weapon more effectivly than any other race , as far as story line goes for me its like having a gallnate BS or BC with bonus to laser turrets I dunno if i am the only one seeing this but it doenst sound right to me at all just on history basis .
Storyline? I think Amarr have been stealing enough tech secrets to know how to build a decent drone ship. Minmatar have been stealing enough tech secrets to know how to build a proper missile ship than the phoon. Prime fiction isnt hard to add if you really want to.
Also solved many whinings...
Weekend BS miners:
Caldari - Tier 3
Amarr - Tier 1/2
Gallente - Tier 1/2
Minmatar - Tier 2
NPC/Agent runners:
Caldari - Tier 2
Amarr - Tier 3 (drones do all damage types)
Gallente - Tier 1
Minmatar - Tier 3
PvP:
Narf T2 ammos first. 
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000Hunter000
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Posted - 2006.06.25 12:27:00 -
[79]
Hurray to ccp for making the caldari Tier3 BS pointless!!! (yes i'm beeing sarcastic)
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.06.25 13:27:00 -
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my pants are happy that jenny is NOT responsible for making the tier3 SB bonuses / and balancing 
if you want minni's to have a raven then remodel the typhoon into one
and amarr are not going to get a droneboat >_>
Originally by: Oveur
This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
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Jenny Spitfire
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Posted - 2006.06.25 13:32:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Tiuwaz
my pants are happy that jenny is NOT responsible for making the tier3 SB bonuses / and balancing
if you want minni's to have a raven then remodel the typhoon into one
and amarr are not going to get a droneboat >_>
Arbitrator is a drone cruiser...
Phoon is a bastard child. Doubt that ship will find a place. Besides, a tier 1 missile spamming BS will be scary. If only T2 ammos are nerfed and fights are a little closer, the phoon will be a good close range BS and pest a long range BS, methinks. Target painting and missiles will be a good support?
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Tiuwaz
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Posted - 2006.06.25 13:40:00 -
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the amarr not getting a droneboat is mainly referring to the vid with the abbaddon firing 8 lasers, theorethically i wouldnt mind, but well, either it will be more powerful than domi (making gallente whine) or it will be less powerfull than domi (making amarr whine)
if the minni BS with targetpainintg bonus gets only 4-5 launchers than its typhoon mk2, if it gets 6 launchers or more than its an uber raven with wtfkillingeverythinginssight
i dont want either, we already use alot of missiles i dont want a 2nd BS besides the phoon with an emphasis on missiles
not to mention that the beellicose/huginn designline goes with splitspec weaponsystems
Originally by: Oveur
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Adam Weishaupt
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Posted - 2006.06.25 13:40:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Minmatar:
Target painting and Cruise/Torp ROF bonus.
They just changed the Typhoon to have a Cruise/Torp ROF bonus. A target painting bonus would be okay, but I'd hope it would have more than four launchers :P Personally I was hoping for something a little more unique, like a NOS bonus, drone bonus, or ECM bonus. Why should the Caldari have a monopoly on bonuses to a huge part of PVP?
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welsh wizard
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Posted - 2006.06.25 13:42:00 -
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Minmatar with 6 missile slots and a ROF bonus?
I sincerely hope it doesn't have the cpu to fit 6 siege II.
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Tessen
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Posted - 2006.06.25 13:44:00 -
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The problem is each race already have a BS according with her main combat philosophy. According to logic, Tiers 3 ships have to be most powerfull ship according with his race.
So that new tier 3 ship will become best ship out of his race philosophy of become redundant with curent BS.
/me expect a complete reroll on ships stats.
- Abaddon become main laser plateform replacing Arma
- Apoc stay as it is : a blockauss
- Arma become a drone plateform a little bit weaker than Gallente one loosing 1 or 2 turrets.
- Raven become tier 3 Caldari BS
- Scorp tiers 2
- ex Tiers 3 Calda BS become tier 1 and get Rail spec (rail = long range where tanking is less important pilots will have to make a choice : ganking or tanking considering Tier 1 stats. CCP should appreciate it considering they don't like sniping at 249km)
- Tiers 3 Gallante BS become new Gallente Drone ship
- Mega stay as Tiers 2 turret ship
- Domi change his bonuses to ... whatever, we don't care /jk (maybee EW ship (weaker than Scorp that become a tier 2) or MWD/blaster ship heavy fire power but weak)
About minmatar, I don't realy know what they need.
They have a projo ship and an hybrid projo/launcher.
I would say they need a full launcher ship considering they are kind of jake-of-all-trade in Eve : turrets and missiles, armor and shield.
- Tempest become Tier 3 ship
- Typhoon tier 2 or stay tier 1
- ex tier 3 become tier 1 or 2 with full launcher and target painter bonuse. As a tier 1 it could have a very good DPS but as I suggest for Calda, the ship will have tier 1 stat (Grid/CPU) so the fit would be compicated.
An other way for Matari is giving them a solid tanking ship as Apoc is for their prime ennemies : Amarrs
Note : We I know, those are sweet dreams, I know it is impossible 'cause changes on curent BSs cannot be justified in backgroud.
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Balklanac
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Posted - 2006.06.25 13:46:00 -
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What sort of a TP bonus is it exactly?
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Bentguru
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Posted - 2006.06.25 13:54:00 -
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I honestly think people are getting confused here. Where exactly was it said that teir 3 bs had to be bigger, more powerful, have more grid/cpu, than the tier 2?
Something along those lines would pretty much obselete tier 1 and probably teir 2 bs in some cases, something which I'm not sure CCP would want.
Personally I see the tier 3 bs as being ultra-modern niche filler BS, not being the biggest and the meanest but fullfilling a combat role that the tier 1 and tier 2 bs of each race currently do not.
For amarr, thats drones, for gal, thats damps and blasters, for caldari, thats rails, for minnie, thats ****ty bonuses.
get my drift?
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Laboratus
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Posted - 2006.06.25 14:12:00 -
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Originally by: Bentguru
For gal, thats damps and blasters
Huh?
Drop the enemy targeting range to 20km and fight him in 7 km range?
A better bonus would be sensor damp range and hybrid range, but prolly it won't get range boni on hybrids. I hope it will be Sensor damp effectiveness 5% and range 10%. That would be cool
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Epsilon 1
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Posted - 2006.06.25 14:26:00 -
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**** YEAH amarr & minmatar bs 5 4tw 
Originally by: Steven Gerrard
Why do those minmatarians throw their ships together from toilet paper and junk?
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Hast
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Posted - 2006.06.25 14:37:00 -
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minmatar Bs: vagaBS
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