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John Zeppe
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Posted - 2003.09.28 23:08:00 - [31]

Quote:
i have no coment hehehehe

whining over a merlin buy a new one.

but if thats true whats said in local in the pick then i have this statement.

GM Sw00sh you are the biggest coward in all eve when you appeare in a ship in eve and are invurnerable to dmg.

let me make it more cleare.

Coward
Coward
Coward
Coward
Coward


lol.
Please reconsider.
John Zeppe
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Posted - 2003.09.28 23:08:00 - [32]

Quote:
i have no coment hehehehe

whining over a merlin buy a new one.

but if thats true whats said in local in the pick then i have this statement.

GM Sw00sh you are the biggest coward in all eve when you appeare in a ship in eve and are invurnerable to dmg.

let me make it more cleare.

Coward
Coward
Coward
Coward
Coward


lol.
Please reconsider.
Zelota
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Posted - 2003.09.28 23:11:00 - [33]

any ways im sorry about forgeting to wipe out the chanel name i was in a hurry.+There childish lil ways realy anoy me cause now they invaded our chat chanel and i am to blame(Thanks losers).Evil or Very MadI feel realy evil mad and sad now so i am just gona tell every one to suport us in this ting

Vid of the week
Zelota
Zelota
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Posted - 2003.09.28 23:11:00 - [34]

any ways im sorry about forgeting to wipe out the chanel name i was in a hurry.+There childish lil ways realy anoy me cause now they invaded our chat chanel and i am to blame(Thanks losers).Evil or Very MadI feel realy evil mad and sad now so i am just gona tell every one to suport us in this ting

Vid of the week
Supe
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Posted - 2003.09.28 23:12:00 - [35]

We have a great chatlog that will be posted i am sure once the gm's have looked into the situation everyone will get to see the great skilled players that stain alliance has and how they brag and pretend to not know about the exploit.
Supe
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Posted - 2003.09.28 23:12:00 - [36]

We have a great chatlog that will be posted i am sure once the gm's have looked into the situation everyone will get to see the great skilled players that stain alliance has and how they brag and pretend to not know about the exploit.
MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.09.28 23:27:00 - [37]

You know you should of run for your life after seeing 4 ships warp in that are roughly 100 times as big as your ship?

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MaiLina KaTar
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Posted - 2003.09.28 23:27:00 - [38]

You know you should of run for your life after seeing 4 ships warp in that are roughly 100 times as big as your ship?
Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.09.28 23:39:00 - [39]

Flame grilled fr00bs...
Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy
Buffet time!
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IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice.

1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7.
Rising Sin
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Posted - 2003.09.28 23:39:00 - [40]

sutty, you're so full of it that it must hurt. All that's important is that everyone who was there knows exactly what you and your pals did.

Ya know, I've lost a number of ships to pirates, but never has a player in EVE made me consider quitting the game until I encountered the attitude of Evolution corp.

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Drethen Nerevitas
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Posted - 2003.09.28 23:39:00 - [41]

Flame grilled fr00bs...
Very HappyVery HappyVery Happy
Buffet time!
_______________________________________________________________________


IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice.

1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7.
Rising Sin
Rising Sin
GoonFleet

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Posted - 2003.09.28 23:39:00 - [42]

sutty, you're so full of it that it must hurt. All that's important is that everyone who was there knows exactly what you and your pals did.

Ya know, I've lost a number of ships to pirates, but never has a player in EVE made me consider quitting the game until I encountered the attitude of Evolution corp.

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"If they're shooting at you, you know you must be doing something right."
Homo Erectus
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Posted - 2003.09.29 03:20:00 - [43]

awww. poor rising sun. awww.

cry harder as you stand neck to neck with the largest posers in this game(CA).
Homo Erectus
Homo Erectus
Amarr
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Posted - 2003.09.29 03:20:00 - [44]

awww. poor rising sun. awww.

cry harder as you stand neck to neck with the largest posers in this game(CA).
kisula
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Posted - 2003.09.29 06:56:00 - [45]

Am unsure how this can be called an exploit.

We gang warped to the VOL gate.When we arrived there 5 RUS camping the gate and we destroyed 2.

Can anyone explain what the exploit is because the enemy threats were there for me the whole time which suggests to me nobody was using any exploits.

There does seem to be a problem with that gate as it took me 4 attempts to jump out of system later during the evening,but no problem at all during the actual engagement.

Nice to see also they have fixed the lag enough with Fridays patch to actually make these fights possible too now.
kisula
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Posted - 2003.09.29 06:56:00 - [46]

Am unsure how this can be called an exploit.

We gang warped to the VOL gate.When we arrived there 5 RUS camping the gate and we destroyed 2.

Can anyone explain what the exploit is because the enemy threats were there for me the whole time which suggests to me nobody was using any exploits.

There does seem to be a problem with that gate as it took me 4 attempts to jump out of system later during the evening,but no problem at all during the actual engagement.

Nice to see also they have fixed the lag enough with Fridays patch to actually make these fights possible too now.
sutty
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Posted - 2003.09.29 07:06:00 - [47]

lol we dont know, the GM turned up orbited us like 100km away from us in every direction. he said there was no grid here ( at the spawn point ) he checked the gate there is a grid and RUS was sat in it but not there fault they happened to warp in on that side of the grid.
then some of the CA decided that im using warp cheats and can shoot people warping. in which the GM just laughed Laughing
sutty
sutty
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Posted - 2003.09.29 07:06:00 - [48]

lol we dont know, the GM turned up orbited us like 100km away from us in every direction. he said there was no grid here ( at the spawn point ) he checked the gate there is a grid and RUS was sat in it but not there fault they happened to warp in on that side of the grid.
then some of the CA decided that im using warp cheats and can shoot people warping. in which the GM just laughed Laughing
Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.09.29 07:09:00 - [49]

*giggle!*

ehehehe! Shocked

You didn't pwn me, I uh.. CTD!

No wait, grid exploit!, that was it!

Cheaters! Crying or Very sad

ehehehe! Shocked
Scrapyard Jack
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Posted - 2003.09.29 07:09:00 - [50]

*giggle!*

ehehehe! Shocked

You didn't pwn me, I uh.. CTD!

No wait, grid exploit!, that was it!

Cheaters! Crying or Very sad

ehehehe! Shocked
Dukath
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Posted - 2003.09.29 07:54:00 - [51]

Edited by: Dukath on 29/09/2003 07:57:39
There are 2 things that happened there.

1) evolution was camping the entry point from VOL-MI into HLW-HP. The jump in point is located pretty much in the center of the grid. Meaning that you can fly a circle of about 100km around the point and remain in the grid.

CA tried to get us out there with, as i see it a good tactic. They warped in on all sides of the evolution forces, using several prepared bookmarks. However they didn't seem to prepare the bookmarks too well since some were too far away and outside the grid. And also because they were using different bookmarks and didn't warp at the exact same time they arrived slightly separated.

Simple to say they got massacred. Then local exploded with accusations of cheating.

GM appears and tries to figure out what happened. He checks our location, to see where we were in the grid and flies around us in a wide circle and even states in local that he could fly around us in a wide circle and that there might be a bug but is definitely no exploit used.

2) after a while we decide to attack VOL-MI and leave the spawn point. However the gate to VOL-MI lies next to a grid-border. As result our forces got split up, half of us could not jump while the rest went through. The players on the other side launched an attack at a gate at the same time that the CA came to the VOL-MI gate inside HLW-HP. Having out forces split up in 3 groups, 2 groups at the vol mi gate trying to get through and 1 groupt at the hlw-hp gate inside vol-mi there was a slight confusion and we lost 2 pilots at the vol-mi gate. The attack inside vol-mi itself was aborted and then re-engaged later after the confusion cleared up a bit.

2b) CA stayed at the gate, playing around with the GM a bit. At one point Stain alliance warped in and encountered the frig, since they are still at war of course they killed him. There was no mention at all from the GM to stop fighting. All he said that was even remotely close to a cease fire was the statement that if they think it is bugged then they should avoid fighting there. I don't see how this means a cease fire at all:/ Evolution on their side made it perfectly clear that enemy ships would be killed when encountered.

This is how i saw the events yesterday, i do not claim that they were correct because i am not in CA and do not know their attack plan, but this is how it appeared to me.
They lost ships, we lost ships. It happens. Build new ships, report the problem and take it into account to prepare better next time. At least thats what we will do next time we get split up like this due to a bug.


Dukath
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Posted - 2003.09.29 07:54:00 - [52]

Edited by: Dukath on 29/09/2003 07:57:39
There are 2 things that happened there.

1) evolution was camping the entry point from VOL-MI into HLW-HP. The jump in point is located pretty much in the center of the grid. Meaning that you can fly a circle of about 100km around the point and remain in the grid.

CA tried to get us out there with, as i see it a good tactic. They warped in on all sides of the evolution forces, using several prepared bookmarks. However they didn't seem to prepare the bookmarks too well since some were too far away and outside the grid. And also because they were using different bookmarks and didn't warp at the exact same time they arrived slightly separated.

Simple to say they got massacred. Then local exploded with accusations of cheating.

GM appears and tries to figure out what happened. He checks our location, to see where we were in the grid and flies around us in a wide circle and even states in local that he could fly around us in a wide circle and that there might be a bug but is definitely no exploit used.

2) after a while we decide to attack VOL-MI and leave the spawn point. However the gate to VOL-MI lies next to a grid-border. As result our forces got split up, half of us could not jump while the rest went through. The players on the other side launched an attack at a gate at the same time that the CA came to the VOL-MI gate inside HLW-HP. Having out forces split up in 3 groups, 2 groups at the vol mi gate trying to get through and 1 groupt at the hlw-hp gate inside vol-mi there was a slight confusion and we lost 2 pilots at the vol-mi gate. The attack inside vol-mi itself was aborted and then re-engaged later after the confusion cleared up a bit.

2b) CA stayed at the gate, playing around with the GM a bit. At one point Stain alliance warped in and encountered the frig, since they are still at war of course they killed him. There was no mention at all from the GM to stop fighting. All he said that was even remotely close to a cease fire was the statement that if they think it is bugged then they should avoid fighting there. I don't see how this means a cease fire at all:/ Evolution on their side made it perfectly clear that enemy ships would be killed when encountered.

This is how i saw the events yesterday, i do not claim that they were correct because i am not in CA and do not know their attack plan, but this is how it appeared to me.
They lost ships, we lost ships. It happens. Build new ships, report the problem and take it into account to prepare better next time. At least thats what we will do next time we get split up like this due to a bug.


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Posted - 2003.09.29 09:13:00 - [53]

Joshua, if you look at that picture you posted, you can see my raven just behind the radar Very Happy.


The jump in point from vol-mi into hlw is absolutely fine and gm swoosh said so himself, however, myself and a few others did have problems with the jumpgate from hlw into vol-mi i.e. not being able to jump. When we engaged rus at that gate though, we had no problems seeing them, this engagement also was under the watchful eye of gm swoosh.


If there were any problems with rus/sinister/moo/omega not being able to see our ships when they attacked, they are most probably related to lag. There were roughly 10 - 15 battleships, some with drones, when the curse alliance launched their assault.
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Posted - 2003.09.29 09:13:00 - [54]

Joshua, if you look at that picture you posted, you can see my raven just behind the radar Very Happy.


The jump in point from vol-mi into hlw is absolutely fine and gm swoosh said so himself, however, myself and a few others did have problems with the jumpgate from hlw into vol-mi i.e. not being able to jump. When we engaged rus at that gate though, we had no problems seeing them, this engagement also was under the watchful eye of gm swoosh.


If there were any problems with rus/sinister/moo/omega not being able to see our ships when they attacked, they are most probably related to lag. There were roughly 10 - 15 battleships, some with drones, when the curse alliance launched their assault.
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Posted - 2003.09.29 09:20:00 - [55]

Quote:
i have no coment hehehehe

whining over a merlin buy a new one.

but if thats true whats said in local in the pick then i have this statement.

GM Sw00sh you are the biggest coward in all eve when you appeare in a ship in eve and are invurnerable to dmg.

let me make it more cleare.

Coward
Coward
Coward
Coward
Coward




I am sure they are not worried about the merlin we destroyed in one volley but the megathron we managed to engage and destroy. As soon as we warped in, both forces were caught by surprise and the curse alliance forces withdrew as soon as they saw us warp in, a few ships did stay long enough for us to lock on and warp jam though, one of them being a megathron which didn't take long to go down even with the valiant efforts of the captain engaging his tactical shields.
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Posted - 2003.09.29 09:20:00 - [56]

Quote:
i have no coment hehehehe

whining over a merlin buy a new one.

but if thats true whats said in local in the pick then i have this statement.

GM Sw00sh you are the biggest coward in all eve when you appeare in a ship in eve and are invurnerable to dmg.

let me make it more cleare.

Coward
Coward
Coward
Coward
Coward




I am sure they are not worried about the merlin we destroyed in one volley but the megathron we managed to engage and destroy. As soon as we warped in, both forces were caught by surprise and the curse alliance forces withdrew as soon as they saw us warp in, a few ships did stay long enough for us to lock on and warp jam though, one of them being a megathron which didn't take long to go down even with the valiant efforts of the captain engaging his tactical shields.
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Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2003.09.29 14:53:00 - [57]

This debate is pointless until a GM comes forth and tells us that we were cheating. Again, until I get UNDENIABLE PROOF that we were cheating, I wont believe it. Read my words carefully. I don't believe we cheated. I'm not even entirely sure how the grid bug is exploited, but something was seriously wrong with the HLW - Vol gate grid, resulting in a rather awkward seperation of forces. I never exploited no damn bug, and I dont believe anyone in Evol did so either (at least knowingly). I've once exploited a bug (BRING IN THE LYNCH MOB!) back in Beta 3, which allowed me to bring in 2000 units of pyroxeres. Yes. I got two hundred thousand instead of a hundred thousand. I could buy a Bantam. Then a character wipe came, and my report resulted in the bug being fixed in the next patch. But I guess I'm a dirty cheater, and so is all of Evolution, based on a strange bitmap file from someone that thinks it's weird that his ship got mauled by three battleships. I am so sad.
Raem Civrie
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Posted - 2003.09.29 14:53:00 - [58]

This debate is pointless until a GM comes forth and tells us that we were cheating. Again, until I get UNDENIABLE PROOF that we were cheating, I wont believe it. Read my words carefully. I don't believe we cheated. I'm not even entirely sure how the grid bug is exploited, but something was seriously wrong with the HLW - Vol gate grid, resulting in a rather awkward seperation of forces. I never exploited no damn bug, and I dont believe anyone in Evol did so either (at least knowingly). I've once exploited a bug (BRING IN THE LYNCH MOB!) back in Beta 3, which allowed me to bring in 2000 units of pyroxeres. Yes. I got two hundred thousand instead of a hundred thousand. I could buy a Bantam. Then a character wipe came, and my report resulted in the bug being fixed in the next patch. But I guess I'm a dirty cheater, and so is all of Evolution, based on a strange bitmap file from someone that thinks it's weird that his ship got mauled by three battleships. I am so sad.


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Lungorthin
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Posted - 2003.09.29 16:17:00 - [59]

Brothers and Sisters

The image depicts this humble servant as third in the threats list.

As a privileged first hand eyewitness I come forward to relate to you a tale of war, a tale of conquests, a tale of losses and a tale of sinister sons of this universe that wander back and forth seeking understanding but finding none, consumed by their grief of losses.

Heretic voices have been raised accusing this humble servant and his allies of bending the laws of the universe. Let it be known that no such thing ever happened.

A special emissary, a judge of the creators came, saw, and confirmed that indeed the laws of the universe were untouched.

I stand by my brothers in arms of Everlasting Vendetta, Evolution and friends. No form of magic, spell or malice was used to present this glorious sacrifice to the gods of war. The sacrifice was considered worthy.

Repent for the end is near...


Lungorthin



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Lungorthin
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Posted - 2003.09.29 16:17:00 - [60]

Brothers and Sisters

The image depicts this humble servant as third in the threats list.

As a privileged first hand eyewitness I come forward to relate to you a tale of war, a tale of conquests, a tale of losses and a tale of sinister sons of this universe that wander back and forth seeking understanding but finding none, consumed by their grief of losses.

Heretic voices have been raised accusing this humble servant and his allies of bending the laws of the universe. Let it be known that no such thing ever happened.

A special emissary, a judge of the creators came, saw, and confirmed that indeed the laws of the universe were untouched.

I stand by my brothers in arms of Everlasting Vendetta, Evolution and friends. No form of magic, spell or malice was used to present this glorious sacrifice to the gods of war. The sacrifice was considered worthy.

Repent for the end is near...



   
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