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Tau Cabalander
Retirement Retreat
Working Stiffs
3806
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Posted - 2014.07.03 20:29:00 -
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... and completely useless in warfare that doesn't use a human for guidance (i.e. computerized tracking).
Even though it worked back then, the military generals egos were bruised by dazzle (form over function), so it was abandoned. |
Unsuccessful At Everything
The Troll Bridge
15012
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Posted - 2014.07.03 20:47:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Its not forest camo its kelp camo.
Its to help you when you are hiding in kelp forests from the space whales.
But what if its a Fed Navy Space Whale? Then how would you know if youre successfully hiding from something that you yourself cant see?
Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings? |
Solecist Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
2809
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Posted - 2014.07.03 21:17:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Xavier Liche wrote:Camo has historical significance? This is gotta hear  Sure. It's as much a unit identifier as any other marking or colouration. All such identifiers can gain some kind of significance over time. Isn't the point of camouflage to make it HARDER to identify something?
That's why it's called camouflage. To hide it / Make it hard to see and/or identify.
I scratch my head ... and wonder.
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
22796
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Posted - 2014.07.03 21:28:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Tippia wrote:Xavier Liche wrote:Camo has historical significance? This is gotta hear Sure. It's as much a unit identifier as any other marking or colouration. All such identifiers can gain some kind of significance over time. Isn't the point of camouflage to make it HARDER to identify something? That's why it's called camouflage. To hide it / Make it hard to see and/or identify. I scratch my head ... and wonder.
The point of camouflage is to break up the figure of the object being camouflaged against the foreground and background. That doesn't mean that when you see the camo on display (as opposed to hidden in a ditch behind a bush), its pattern is distinctive enough to tell you something about its origins.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
309
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Posted - 2014.07.03 21:32:00 -
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Camo ships are the kids who refuse to where a school uniform...school uniforms are bull**** anyways. |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
10579
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Posted - 2014.07.03 21:35:00 -
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Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:Humans have proven throughout history there always has been, and always will be, a market for frivolous items bought by frivolous people.
Says a dumbass playing a frivolous video game.
Oh hey, dumbass isn't censored. I'm going to leave it then, since it's clearly okay.
No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
Sobaan Tali
Caldari Quick Reaction Force
309
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Posted - 2014.07.03 21:36:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Its not forest camo its kelp camo.
Its to help you when you are hiding in kelp forests from the space whales.
I sense the Jaws theme heading towards this thread. |
Solecist Project
Deeper Feelings Inc.
2809
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Posted - 2014.07.03 21:41:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Tippia wrote:Xavier Liche wrote:Camo has historical significance? This is gotta hear Sure. It's as much a unit identifier as any other marking or colouration. All such identifiers can gain some kind of significance over time. Isn't the point of camouflage to make it HARDER to identify something? That's why it's called camouflage. To hide it / Make it hard to see and/or identify. I scratch my head ... and wonder. The point of camouflage is to break up the figure of the object being camouflaged against the foreground and background. That doesn't mean that when you see the camo on display (as opposed to hidden in a ditch behind a bush), its pattern is distinctive enough to tell you something about its origins.
Ahh I get it, thanks!
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
12207
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Posted - 2014.07.03 21:48:00 -
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Sobaan Tali wrote:baltec1 wrote:Its not forest camo its kelp camo.
Its to help you when you are hiding in kelp forests from the space whales. I sense the Jaws theme heading towards this thread.
Sharks are but a footnote compared to the terror of that blasted whale!
Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Inxentas Ultramar
Ultramar Independent Contracting
1355
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Posted - 2014.07.03 21:51:00 -
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Didn't you have Clown Camo in Metal Gear Solid 3: Snake Eater?
It being a video game is enough validation for me  |
Matilda Cecilia Fock
Pator Tech School
Minmatar Republic
204
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Posted - 2014.07.03 22:07:00 -
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Meh, camo. Just give me a fake ID transponder so my ship is identified as another class unless you're closer than 2.500 meters.
FAI, display on screen (camo) your Hulk as a Tornado when seen farther than 2.500 meters...
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari
End of Life
2026
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:30:00 -
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There are many things our species does that are dumb:
Exhibit A
Exhibit B
Exhibit C
Exhibit D
Exhibit E
As some quick examples. It wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if, when we eventually make space travel as common as car travel, that camo pattern is a very accurate prediction.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
901
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:35:00 -
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Eve needs more trees.
Just saying. |
Nose' Feliciano
32
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:48:00 -
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Forest camo in the desert is even dumber. Have you seen the news from the middle east lately?
Ladies, you know what they say about guys with big noses right? Heh-heh!!
That's right, it means they are either Jewish or Italian.
:P |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
10579
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:50:00 -
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It's an aesthetic in a stupid video game. I don't get why this is such a difficult concept for you people.
No, this isn't it at all. Make it more... psssshhhh. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
902
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Posted - 2014.07.03 23:54:00 -
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Nose' Feliciano wrote:Forest camo in the desert is even dumber. Have you seen the news from the middle east lately?
Note quite as dumb as panzer grey tanks in the wheat fields of Russia, summer of 1941 :D
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stoicfaux
5032
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Posted - 2014.07.04 00:08:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Sobaan Tali wrote:baltec1 wrote:Its not forest camo its kelp camo.
Its to help you when you are hiding in kelp forests from the space whales. I sense the Jaws theme heading towards this thread. Sharks are but a footnote compared to the terror of that blasted whale!
Sharks? Pfffft, 6 inch tall nature fairies are scarier. You all would know this if you a) had small daughters and b) have seen Tinker Bell: The Pirate Fairy half a dozen times.
WASABI: Warp Acceleration System Ancillary Boost Injected(Gäó)
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Rapscallion Jones
Omnibus Solutions
26
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Posted - 2014.07.04 03:12:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:Tippia wrote:Solecist Project wrote:Tippia wrote:Xavier Liche wrote:Camo has historical significance? This is gotta hear Sure. It's as much a unit identifier as any other marking or colouration. All such identifiers can gain some kind of significance over time. Isn't the point of camouflage to make it HARDER to identify something? That's why it's called camouflage. To hide it / Make it hard to see and/or identify. I scratch my head ... and wonder. The point of camouflage is to break up the figure of the object being camouflaged against the foreground and background. That doesn't mean that when you see the camo on display (as opposed to hidden in a ditch behind a bush), its pattern is distinctive enough to tell you something about its origins. Ahh I get it, thanks!
And if you need more clarity....How Not To Be Seen |
Garandras
Black Aces
Against ALL Authorities
209
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Posted - 2014.07.04 03:15:00 -
[49] - Quote
I actually this the falcon has the most appropriate camo pattern for space |
Conrad Makbure
Division One Security
73
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Posted - 2014.07.04 03:37:00 -
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I thought, in the undocumented lore of the game, ships up to battleship hulls had atmospheric flight capabilities and could land on the ground on some planet, i.e., a planet with trees and such, i.e., a situation where camo would make sense. |
Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
1884
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Posted - 2014.07.04 03:58:00 -
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I think it's a fine idea
.. when everything else is gone .. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
906
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Posted - 2014.07.04 04:31:00 -
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stoicfaux wrote:baltec1 wrote:Sobaan Tali wrote:baltec1 wrote:Its not forest camo its kelp camo.
Its to help you when you are hiding in kelp forests from the space whales. I sense the Jaws theme heading towards this thread. Sharks are but a footnote compared to the terror of that blasted whale! Sharks? Pfffft, 6 inch tall nature fairies are scarier. You all would know this if you a) had small daughters and b) have seen Tinker Bell: The Pirate Fairy half a dozen times.
but .. then there are Avalanche Sharks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sotQoOngYno |
polly papercut
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
78
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Posted - 2014.07.04 05:11:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Xavier Liche wrote:No, the shoulder patch (in the US) is the unit identifier, esp right side because that is the combat unit you serve with.
BDUs are all the same. GǪand yet they will let you identify the unit and as such can gain historical significance. MCCUU Gëá DCU Gëá ACU Gëá NWU Gëá etc (and that's just for the last decade and a single nation GÇö add ODs to the list and you immediately introduce historical significance). Again, it's no different from any other marking in that regard.
Someone can wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniforms_of_the_United_States_Armed_Forces
The patch is the unit identifier the camo is not. Seeing as how the older patteern is only from 2002. The camo has no historic significance. On a side note are you home bound? |
TharOkha
0asis Group
828
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Posted - 2014.07.04 05:49:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Since the visuals don't matter, forest camo is no more or less dumb than any other, so you might as well paint the ship in whatever looks good or has some historical significance.
Just because you dont care about visuals doesnt mean that many, many of eve citizens does not... Just look at neverending thread about hi res texture pack.
Do you remember "Bring black Vindicator back" rage? (CCP applied camo textures on it)..
Do you remember Navy comet rage? (CCP applied camo textures on it)...
Do you remember Rhea rage? (guess what... ...hint: camo textures).
etc....
TL:DR... WE HATE CAMO TEXTURES IN SPACESHIP GAME !!!!
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Raiz Nhell
Veni Vidi Vici Reloaded
355
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Posted - 2014.07.04 05:54:00 -
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polly papercut wrote:Tippia wrote:Xavier Liche wrote:No, the shoulder patch (in the US) is the unit identifier, esp right side because that is the combat unit you serve with.
BDUs are all the same. GǪand yet they will let you identify the unit and as such can gain historical significance. MCCUU Gëá DCU Gëá ACU Gëá NWU Gëá etc (and that's just for the last decade and a single nation GÇö add ODs to the list and you immediately introduce historical significance). Again, it's no different from any other marking in that regard. Someone can wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uniforms_of_the_United_States_Armed_ForcesThe patch is the unit identifier the camo is not. Seeing as how the older patteern is only from 2002. The camo has no historic significance. On a side note are you home bound?
I know while overseas I was able to tell who was who by their camo...
Yanks in multicam...
Poms in desert cam...
Europeans in all sorts of funny cam patterns...
Aircrew in light khaki onesis and raybans...
Us Aussies in our jellybean pyjamas...
As for why camo in space... no idea...
But its a make believe spaceship in a make believe universe... so its probably all in your head.
There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |
Jake Warbird
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
4140
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Posted - 2014.07.04 05:59:00 -
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I like space camo. Bring in ship paints/variants for every ship, everyone is happy.
Also would like to add space camo is not that stupid. |
Rowells
Unknown Soldiers
Fidelas Constans
880
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Posted - 2014.07.04 06:18:00 -
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"This ship is the most advanced Combat Battlecruiser the republic has ever designed"
"Yes but why does the newest and greatest still have rust?"
".....we can cover that. Just splotch some paint, make it look like some cool space camo"
"Brilliant. Give that man a promotion" |
Jeremiah Saken
The Fall of Leviathan
59
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Posted - 2014.07.04 06:31:00 -
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Jake Warbird wrote:Also would like to add space camo is not that stupid.
Camo on that Longbow is for to hide it on the ground not while flying obviously. It's hard to hide almost 1 km SNI inside station.
Check B-17 painting 1943 pattern. Olive top to hide when on ground, bluish bottom when flying.
It's just aesthetics beacause when you shooting from 200km, you depend on ship sensors not visual. In hangar camo is clear message - we are from navy, move along.
Bacon tastes so much better when it's marinated in vegan tears.-á |
Varathius
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
77
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Posted - 2014.07.04 06:39:00 -
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Paying much more isk for the same ship just because it has different camo, now that I think is dumber |
Mina Sebiestar
Mactabilis Simplex Cursus
687
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Posted - 2014.07.04 06:40:00 -
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Space ships and forest como make perfect sense......
in a parallel universe where space is no gravity rain forest.....sadly in this one even in a game i found it tasteless ,hoping that ship skins go live so i can undo this"art" from my minmatar ships.
being a bit more immerse is always a plus in my book.
http://i.imgur.com/1N37t.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/KTjFEt6.jpg I dont always fly stabber but when i do...
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