This is the quote that got my attention:

EVE is a terrible game. I've heard horror stories about it, the pretty much legalized griefing that goes on in the game and ****. Guild officers robbing entire guilds blind, forceful takeovers of guilds and draining them. ******* over new players in general. Its just **** I've heard, I've never played the game though. I probably never will, why would anyone want to experience that?

Comments in an article about that problem back in march/april that got someone banned rather publicly for harrassment are worth reading. Article in question, read the comments: http://massively.joystiq.com/2014/03/25/heres-some-of-the-cyberbullying-that-happens-in-eve-online/

From a former player:

Sociopaths like E1 will always find victims because weak ones are numerous in our world.
Abusing them is never ok, even if they are willing to be abused.

CCP had to answer faster on this matter and they did not. My EVE accounts have been cancelled and I will never set foot in this universe (and I don't want to call it a game, I have too much respect for them) again. I am quite ashamed to have been blind for so long.

Enjoy your s***box. (the *** were put there by me, not by some profanity filter).

From a steam review:

i also grew to mistrust the company CCP and the community of this game, although im sure there were lots of decent human beings amongst them. the biggest problem i had with the community happened when i first started playing. the leader of one of the most prominent corporate alliances had shown up to a livestream drunk and called out a player by his real name and asked his followers to grief this poor, totally innocent guy. the leader said during the livestream that he wanted the player to actually commit suicide irl, and the big bad leader was marshalling his ingame forces to "make it so".

this despicable behaviour was reprimanded with a slap on the wrist, a mere 30 day suspension from their little ingame council, and as far as i know, nothing more was done.

The point is... EVE has a reputation problem that gets people to never consider trying it to begin with. This is not good for the game. What should be done about it, if anything?

Will you take isk? My boar hunting skills are sadly not up to par so I have no Gold

[quote=Paranoid Loyd]
People say the fluid physics in eve is ******* immersion breaking.. but not 1 damn person in WoW complains about broken immersion when a wild boar drops a ******* demon sword!!!!!

I can not defend the actions of someone who says something that awful. However, considering that I have never heard of this before and no link has been provided for proof, I can not address the hypothetical of a major alliance leader saying something of that sort. If this was actually done and CCP followed it up with a 30 day suspension, then I would not consider it a total failure as the quoted person seems to believe.

The cruel nature of various posters responses clearly indicate the continue sociopathic and disgusting behavior that CCP allow to continue in EVE. I have no doubts that many of you like playing this game because you like taking all your negativity out on others in a game. Does that make you feel like a man?

I swear I am about done! The negative reputation this game gets from all sources is well deserved.

I swear I am about done! The negative reputation this game gets from all sources is well deserved.

The cruel nature of various posters responses clearly indicate the continue sociopathic and disgusting behavior that CCP allow to continue in EVE. I have no doubts that many of you like playing this game because you like taking all your negativity out on others in a game. Does that make you feel like a man?

I swear I am about done! The negative reputation this game gets from all sources is well deserved.

The cruel nature of various posters responses clearly indicate the continue sociopathic and disgusting behavior that CCP allow to continue in EVE. I have no doubts that many of you like playing this game because you like taking all your negativity out on others in a game. Does that make you feel like a man?

I swear I am about done! The negative reputation this game gets from all sources is well deserved.

The cruel nature of various posters responses clearly indicate the continue sociopathic and disgusting behavior that CCP allow to continue in EVE. I have no doubts that many of you like playing this game because you like taking all your negativity out on others in a game. Does that make you feel like a man?

I swear I am about done! The negative reputation this game gets from all sources is well deserved.

Yeah.. sorry about that. It just irritates me soooo much that a lvl 1 Boar will drop a lvl 15 Under Demon Sword for like.. no reason. I mean.. you don't see the sword on the boar. Nothing. It doesn't even have a backpack, or magic bag of holding on it. But sure enough.. you kill it, and POP! Out comes gold and weaponry like some kind of pi+¦ata. Here I was, happy to be a Night Elf and totally immersed in my game.. and then physics and reality go right out the window with this random drop. I could totally see a level 10 boss mob dropping an Under Demon Sword.. totally, but a boar??!?! Come on now.... that's.. that's just wrong and you know it.

Can I have your stuff?

The cruel nature of various posters responses clearly indicate the continue sociopathic and disgusting behavior that CCP allow to continue in EVE. I have no doubts that many of you like playing this game because you like taking all your negativity out on others in a game. Does that make you feel like a man?

I swear I am about done! The negative reputation this game gets from all sources is well deserved.

I know. CCP should ban you for making such horrible comments. I can't believe that they'd allow you to do this!.

The cruel nature of various posters responses clearly indicate the continue sociopathic and disgusting behavior that CCP allow to continue in EVE. I have no doubts that many of you like playing this game because you like taking all your negativity out on others in a game. Does that make you feel like a man?

I swear I am about done! The negative reputation this game gets from all sources is well deserved.

eve players are all persnickety nerds, and wow players all want to have sex with pandas

Go back to your blue donut and carebear it up like you all love to do. Deluded bug overlords of EVE.

All of the above is correct.

If EVE wants to avoid the slow decline, it needs to introduce areas for consensual PvP (arenas-battlegrounds-whatever) and clamp down on the griefing/suicide-ganking.

New plays should not be griefed or scammed or ganked in any way, and there should be an area in EVE where it should be COMPLETELY safe for people to play.

Simple as that.

Will it happen? No, because ~reasons~

Whatever. Theirs jobs to lose, not mine. Meh.

EDIT - and why the hell aren't there normal video-tutorials? What is this, the 1990s? Instead of wasting money on flashy intros, get a nice 2-hour long video tutorial on how to actually play the game.

There is an instance in WoW that lets you do that ???

Wait

Some believe the game is too violent and mean

and others believe that Blue Donuttery makes Null too sedate and safe

Hmm

HHHHHMMMMMMMMMM

You actively harass a player through chat/voice/mail? Temp ban. Do it again? 3 month. Again? Perma.
Repeatedly suicide-gank the same player while they are mining/missioning in HS? Perma.
Attempt to use game mechanics or CCP Policy in a manner unintended in order to harass players? Perma.
BONUS: Forum trolling? Temp. Do it again? Perma from forums.

/rant

Newbie starting zones, anti-griefing areas, etc. Really, f**k it - lets just get rid of 'griefing' altogether. I'm not talking about ganking for profit/war, mind you - I mean actively using game mechanics to harass another player's gameplay. You can try to forum warrior that statement all you like - and you will - but we both know what I'm talking about.
/rant

It certainly happened, what the OP got wrong is that the alliance leader in question got a 30 day suspension from the game, not the CSM.

OP also forgot to mention that he was removed from his position on the then current CSM, and barred from the position he was due to fill in the next CSM. He also apologised to the player in question and paid a substantial amount of ingame restitution to that player.

Bluesec is sedate and safe.

Hisec is violent and mean.


Get with the program :D

Then quit already. No one respects a man who won't back up his convictions.

why do people hate goons so much, anyway.