Better question, why in the flying **** would supers get removed?

Better question, why in the flying **** would supers get removed?

IF CCP removed all supers from the game, what would you want to receive back to make you feel 'whole again'?

For example of an expected reply:

- FULL ISK returned
- useless skill points returned to the pool
- Characters docked high sec
- Security status bumped up to -1.9 (if under)

Anything else you would need?

IF CCP removed all supers from the game, what would you want to receive back to make you feel 'whole again'?

For example of an expected reply:

- FULL ISK returned
- useless skill points returned to the pool
- Characters docked high sec
- Security status bumped up to -1.9 (if under)

Anything else you would need?

Good point.

In particular, Why single out supers ? Why are carriers dreads or titans OK but not supers?

Carriers have counters (any other ship). So .. I'll fix title.

IF CCP removed all supers and titans from the game, what would you want to receive back to make you feel 'whole again'?

For example of an expected reply:

- FULL ISK returned
- useless skill points returned to the pool
- Characters docked high sec
- Security status bumped up to -1.9 (if under)

Anything else you would need?

EvE 2 from another company because this is the type of bonehead move mmos never recover from. Whoever wants this is trolling, crazy, or wants EvEto die.

open up your own thread and ask

Personally, I think the chances of it dying are grossly blown out of proportion. Subject for another thread I guess as this thread is about wondering what would be needed by the current owners to buy em back. Cash for clunkers investigation.

EvE 2 from another company because this is the type of bonehead move mmos never recover from. Whoever wants this is trolling, crazy, or wants EvEto die.

Spoken like a person who doesn't understand that even the coalitions that are the most saturated with supers realize just how **** they are. Blocs collect them because the only real counter to supers is having more of them than the other guy.

A pony

I realize that removing supers would mean all the Goon F1 monkeys would overrun the rest of the universe with sheer numbers alone. It's the only reason your self serving leader made his laughable suggestion without addressing blobbing and power-projection.

I dont want supers to be removed.
But i do want a change for them.
At the moment all other ships immume to e-war, dreads in siege, carriers in triage and marauders in bastion, get a benefit in some area's and deficits in others. Namely benefits immume to e-war, increased local tank, increase in effecting other ships (dps for triage, application for bastion, remote repping for triage).
They also get several downsides. Immobile, immune to remote assistance(trackinglinks remote sensorboosts remote repping remote eccm remote captransfers)apart from this the modules have some unique properties like sieged dreads get a penalty to locked targets, carriers in triage lose the ability to command drones, bastioned marauders get imptoved resistance.

supers are the core of the ridiculous power projection that's going on at the moment in EVE. Null sec devolved into the question of who has more supers which is just awful game design. while at the same time any low sec roam with a decent number of ships has to be prepared to get hot dropped by bored PL / CFC super pilots, because null sec became stale **** that is so easy to manage that two power blocs can control all of it.

make alliances work to keep their null sec systems, and not just the poor scrubs that get forced into doing the alliance logistics.

instead of it being supers and titans it will be carriers and dreads both of which has like 10 times more hp than a battleship
the only real difference being carriers and dreads are lot cheaper to instead of 100 supers u see 300 carriers.

i just don't see the point in removing supers

a backrub by a naked George Clooney while being fed grapes by Alissa White-Gluz.

seems like a fair deal to me

You can keep the Clooney, but my god Alissa....omnomnom.

/WHAT_IF_THE_GENIE_GOT_PUT_BACK_INTO_THE_BOTTLE

IF CCP removed all supers and titans from the game, what would you want to receive back to make you feel 'whole again'?

For example of an expected reply:

- FULL ISK returned
- useless skill points returned to the pool
- Characters docked high sec
- Security status bumped up to -1.9 (if under)

Anything else you would need?

Bollocks.

Even if there were no Supers or Titans and just carrier and dreads, who other then current powers could withstand hundreds of carriers + dreads + support?

All that would happen is that if you removed Supers and Titans is that in a few months you will crying that Carriers and Dreads should be removed because its not fair that a group can field hundreds at a time, will have hundreds more in reserve and will be be able to replace any loses in days.

The issue is not Supers and Titans but the simple fact that in Eve as in most things numbers is one of the most important factors in any fight.

Supercaps are what hold the mega alliances together, because with a relatively small number of pilots they can project insane amounts of force. Fielding 300 carriers may be impressive, but it's also a lot easier to match than trying to compete with a serious supercap fleet. You'd see far more null sec wars breaking out and coalitions crumbling if supercaps were gone.

IF CCP removed all supers and titans from the game, what would you want to receive back to make you feel 'whole again'?

For example of an expected reply:

- FULL ISK returned
- useless skill points returned to the pool
- Characters docked high sec
- Security status bumped up to -1.9 (if under)

Anything else you would need?

While I am not a capital pilot, I did spend some time in Null-sec, and I did notice that it seemed rather.. stagnant. It seems like there are only 2 or 3 big alliances or at least 3 groups that aren't blue to one another. If you are blue to one, you can fly around all day, dozens of jumps, doing whatever and almost never even see anyone in the systems you are flying through. Everyone seems to hang out in their little care-bear pockets or use titans to jump to PVP along the border.. While I have no stance particularly about the supers, anything that CCP could do to shake it all up and break it down into a mass of crazy people murdering one-another would be ideal in my opinion. Mega-corps/alliances are what's breaking the economy and peoples lives in real life.. seems that way in EVE as well.