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Pink Marshmellow
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Posted - 2006.07.08 13:25:00 -
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Originally by: Kaeten
Originally by: Pink Marshmellow o/ kaeten! howsit goin dude
fine I see your back in 0.0, come bac kif you get bored
too many iron about to shoot and too many fla running away and too many roids to mine and and and to get bored but why dont you bring kif up here if your still looking to pick fights with people
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BOSSMAN69
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Posted - 2006.07.08 14:39:00 -
[122]
Originally by: Elendar
Originally by: Archangel Deck
in that battle IRON has 71 kills and 24 loses confirmed, and thats just IRON's kills we havent even counted FLA's kills
Considering we were outnumbered with 60 in our gang
slowly IRON/FLA/allied forces were overrun threw pure numbers. I think we did pretty good and we are happy with how things played out.
60 of you got overrun yet you have only 24 deaths? i'd sugest either you stop your pilots running away, or you post the rest of your losses
Good grief will you read what you quoted first, before making stupid rash statements. WE HAVE NOT COUNTED FLA's KILLS/LOSSES
Victories are only possible if there is combat
Combat is only possible if there is WAR
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Eta Carinea
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Posted - 2006.07.08 23:12:00 -
[123]
Originally by: BOSSMAN69
Originally by: Elendar
Originally by: Archangel Deck
in that battle IRON has 71 kills and 24 loses confirmed, and thats just IRON's kills we havent even counted FLA's kills
Considering we were outnumbered with 60 in our gang
slowly IRON/FLA/allied forces were overrun threw pure numbers. I think we did pretty good and we are happy with how things played out.
60 of you got overrun yet you have only 24 deaths? i'd sugest either you stop your pilots running away, or you post the rest of your losses
Good grief will you read what you quoted first, before making stupid rash statements. WE HAVE NOT COUNTED FLA's KILLS/LOSSES
Emmm and i thought thats what FLA got you guys in for to do the killing because they sure can't.
Still the battles go on http://www.geotecheve.co.uk/index.php
Quid Si Coelum Ruat
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Heero Yuy
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Posted - 2006.07.09 02:44:00 -
[124]
The NFC certainly has some top quality smackers, there's no doubt about that. Pity it has zero bearing on the game though.
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Kyria Timeyu
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Posted - 2006.07.09 03:43:00 -
[125]
IRON should probably post their dreadnought losses from yesterday if they want to keep any shred of respectability.
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Antigen Po
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Posted - 2006.07.09 06:41:00 -
[126]
Originally by: Kyria Timeyu IRON should probably post their dreadnought losses from yesterday if they want to keep any shred of respectability.
Anyone in goons who requests this should be aware that IRON losses had a ton to do with goons spamming local (fofofofofofofo?) to lag out the pilots.
Ive been watching whats been going on in cloudring pretty closely, and have been willng to give teh Goons the benefit of the doubt about their tactics for causing lag.
However....based on IRON reports and logs, its OBVIOUS that goons are doing what they can to lag out their opponents. IRON logs will show this, and IRON petitions will show this also. We're waiting for Goons to get banned for these kind of unhonrable acts.
Its a complete shame that an opponent like Goonswarm, with 2nd highest number in the game has to result to these exploitative tactics.
Like any member of eve will tell you, its best to show your strength without resorting to exploits.
Please goons dont do this again, as you will be reported repeatedtly and your previously deserved respect in combat will go down the tubes.
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NATMav
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Posted - 2006.07.09 07:35:00 -
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Originally by: Antigen Po Edited by: Antigen Po on 09/07/2006 06:45:56 Edited by: Antigen Po on 09/07/2006 06:44:58
Originally by: Kyria Timeyu IRON should probably post their dreadnought losses from yesterday if they want to keep any shred of respectability.
Anyone in goons who requests this should be aware that IRON losses had a ton to do with goons spamming local (fofofofofofofo?) to lag out the pilots.
Ive been watching whats been going on in cloudring pretty closely, and have been willng to give teh Goons the benefit of the doubt about their tactics for causing lag.
However....based on IRON reports and logs, its OBVIOUS that goons are doing what they can to lag out their opponents. IRON logs will show this, and IRON petitions will show this also. We're waiting for Goons to get banned for these kind of unhonrable acts.
Its a complete shame that an opponent like Goonswarm, with 2nd highest number in the game has to result to these exploitative tactics.
Like any member of eve will tell you, its best to show your strength without resorting to exploits.
Please goons dont do this again, as you will be reported repeatedtly and your previously deserved respect in combat will go down the tubes.
- Antigen Po / Freelancer Alliance
/signed
We had a covert that had visual on the situation and reported the same. No respect.
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Cefte
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Posted - 2006.07.09 08:41:00 -
[128]
Originally by: NATMav
We had a covert that had visual on the situation and reported the same. No respect.
1) Fofofo has been the victory cry of GoonFleet since its inception. Old-school UO players may get the reference. 2) If you were watching, or check your logs, you'll notice that goons shouted fofo in local after both dreads were dead, at a point when only a single rapier was hostile in local, and that rapier was stuck in a cyno field. 3) Apart from one offender who repeated it, each goon said fofo once. That one guy who repeated it three times has been internally reprimanded. 4) It's almost impossible to be lagged out by chat. If this was not the case, rookies would be disconnected as soon as they logged on. 5) If you're still unhappy, petition it, and get back to us when a neutral party has gone over the logs. I'm quietly confident that we'll be exonerated. 6) When you cyno in dreads five kilometers away from a conqurable station with a hundred hostiles in local and no support, blaming the losses on the victory celebration after smacks of sour grapes.
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roikorev
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Posted - 2006.07.09 08:55:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Antigen Po Edited by: Antigen Po on 09/07/2006 06:45:56 Edited by: Antigen Po on 09/07/2006 06:44:58
Originally by: Kyria Timeyu IRON should probably post their dreadnought losses from yesterday if they want to keep any shred of respectability.
Anyone in goons who requests this should be aware that IRON losses had a ton to do with goons spamming local (fofofofofofofo?) to lag out the pilots.
Ive been watching whats been going on in cloudring pretty closely, and have been willng to give teh Goons the benefit of the doubt about their tactics for causing lag.
However....based on IRON reports and logs, its OBVIOUS that goons are doing what they can to lag out their opponents. IRON logs will show this, and IRON petitions will show this also. We're waiting for Goons to get banned for these kind of unhonrable acts.
Its a complete shame that an opponent like Goonswarm, with 2nd highest number in the game has to result to these exploitative tactics.
Like any member of eve will tell you, its best to show your strength without resorting to exploits.
Please goons dont do this again, as you will be reported repeatedtly and your previously deserved respect in combat will go down the tubes.
- Antigen Po / Freelancer Alliance
Bunk...
the fofofo lag must work retroactively because it only happened AFTER both dreads were killed and podded. So please less whine and excuses, and more accepting that you lost fair and square.
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Shinoobie
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Posted - 2006.07.09 10:08:00 -
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Edited by: Shinoobie on 09/07/2006 10:11:13
Originally by: roikorev Edited by: roikorev on 09/07/2006 09:40:57
Originally by: Antigen Po Edited by: Antigen Po on 09/07/2006 06:45:56 Edited by: Antigen Po on 09/07/2006 06:44:58
Originally by: Kyria Timeyu IRON should probably post their dreadnought losses from yesterday if they want to keep any shred of respectability.
Anyone in goons who requests this should be aware that IRON losses had a ton to do with goons spamming local (fofofofofofofo?) to lag out the pilots.
Ive been watching whats been going on in cloudring pretty closely, and have been willng to give teh Goons the benefit of the doubt about their tactics for causing lag.
However....based on IRON reports and logs, its OBVIOUS that goons are doing what they can to lag out their opponents. IRON logs will show this, and IRON petitions will show this also. We're waiting for Goons to get banned for these kind of unhonrable acts.
Its a complete shame that an opponent like Goonswarm, with 2nd highest number in the game has to result to these exploitative tactics.
Like any member of eve will tell you, its best to show your strength without resorting to exploits.
Please goons dont do this again, as you will be reported repeatedtly and your previously deserved respect in combat will go down the tubes.
- Antigen Po / Freelancer Alliance
Bunk...
the fofofo lag must work retroactively because it only happened AFTER both dreads were killed and podded. So please less whine and excuses, and more accepting that you lost fair and square.
EDIT: Now with proof,
Quote:
[ 2006.07.08 05:47:07 ] EVE System > Channel changed to C4C-Z4 Local Channel [ 2006.07.08 05:48:46 ] Orbital Drift > ooooh [ 2006.07.08 05:48:48 ] Orbital Drift > ahhhh [ 2006.07.08 05:50:06 ] Orbital Drift > ininin [ 2006.07.08 05:51:45 ] Delors > AUS AUS AUS DER SPIEL IST AUS [ 2006.07.08 05:53:01 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > damn, bad timing IRON [ 2006.07.08 05:53:15 ] Eruru > fofofo [ 2006.07.08 05:53:15 ] Sesfan Qu'lah > fofofo [ 2006.07.08 05:53:16 ] Zosh > fofofo [ 2006.07.08 05:53:18 ] Buff Daddy > fofofofofofo [ 2006.07.08 05:53:18 ] Nurpicles > fofofofo [ 2006.07.08 05:53:18 ] Richard Face > fofofofof [ 2006.07.08 05:53:18 ] Foodchain > fofofof [ 2006.07.08 05:53:18 ] Kara L'gawr > fofofofof
and the killmail of the second dread:
Quote:
2006.07.08 05:52
Victim: Buddrow Alliance: Imperial Republic Of the North Corp: E X O D U S Destroyed: Moros System: C4C-Z4 Security: 0.0
Involved parties:
Name: Katane Usamo Security: 3.6 Alliance: GoonSwarm Corp: GoonFleet Ship: Raven
If you wish to retain ANY shred of respectability I recommend you issue an apology to goonswarm for lying and tainting their reputation to save face on the forums. Isk can replace the dread losses, but it can't replace respect.
For FLA to retain respect? Or did you mean IRON?. You see IRON lost the dreads and a FLA guy made the post. IRON has no respect to loose currently as we will await the decision of the GMs and upon that result will honour it either way.
But seeing as you like to come on the forums beating your chest with a 24 day old alt it makes you main loose an awfull lot of respect, if we ever found out who you are, as you don't have the face to go public. I speak with my main, I do not cowardly hide behind an alt.
Thanks,
Shin
Edit: Spelling
Elite Scouting
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Cefte
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Posted - 2006.07.09 10:34:00 -
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Originally by: Shinoobie For FLA to retain respect? Or did you mean IRON?
I hate alt posts as much as the next guy, but when an alt quots a FLA guy, I'm pretty sure he's talking to FLA.
That said, would IRON like to confirm that FLA was spreading a mistruth, and that fofo occurred after both dreads were dead? If not, I'm sure FLA will be along to clear up the issue in a minute, after which I'll go play Duke Nukem Forever.
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Tozmeister
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Posted - 2006.07.09 10:46:00 -
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Not that I don't enjoy seeing IRON squrim over another absent killmail, but this arguement should be in one of the goonies threads. Not in an NFC thread.
We've had one thread locked already for discussing killmails/killboards. ---------------------------------------------------
The Braying sheep on my TV screen Make this boy shout, make this boy scream - The Jam (1980) |
Cefte
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Posted - 2006.07.09 10:50:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Tozmeister
Not that I don't enjoy seeing IRON squrim over another absent killmail, but this arguement should be in one of the goonies threads. Not in an NFC thread.
Quoted for apology. We thought it best to clear up this accusation before it started in the echo chamber. Any further discussion on the topic of the last seven posts, please toddle over to here. Leave your alts at the door. We'll be waiting, FLA, I'll put the kettle on.
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Demarcus
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Posted - 2006.07.09 10:59:00 -
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WOW, you would think NFC pilots would have the common sense to take a break from smacking on the forums after getting absolutly slaughtered in DO6 Friday night.That fight was so lopsided it was like Mike Tyson fighting Corky. ------------------------------------- You are all worthless, and weak.
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Dead Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.09 11:20:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Taffun I wanted something to shoot at and I'm happy. Is that honest enough?
Peace is pretty boring sometimes. I wonder how many eve-wars have started over boredom.
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NATMav
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Posted - 2006.07.09 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Cefte 2) If you were watching, or check your logs, you'll notice that goons shouted fofo in local after both dreads were dead, at a point when only a single rapier was hostile in local, and that rapier was stuck in a cyno field. 3) Apart from one offender who repeated it, each goon said fofo once. That one guy who repeated it three times has been internally reprimanded.
If that is the case, then I retract my statement.
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Cefte
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Posted - 2006.07.09 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: NATMav If that is the case, then I retract my statement.
Please get your covops pilot to go through his logs and cross-reference them with the killmails of the dread pilots, then post the result in the thread I linked above so we can stop messing around with this NFC thread.
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Inbred
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Posted - 2006.07.09 18:00:00 -
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Edited by: Inbred on 09/07/2006 18:03:41 Edited by: Inbred on 09/07/2006 18:01:37
Originally by: roikorev
the fofofo lag must work retroactively because it only happened AFTER both dreads were killed and podded. So please less whine and excuses, and more accepting that you lost fair and square.
If you wish to retain ANY shred of respectability I recommend you issue an apology to goonswarm for lying and tainting their reputation to save face on the forums. Isk can replace the dread losses, but it can't replace respect.
in that case why haven't you posted the second dread killmail in here or on your own killboards yet?
did the time of the second dread show that it happened during/after the spamming?
this i have to see
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Cefte
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Posted - 2006.07.09 18:32:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Inbred does the time on the second dreads killmail show that it went down during/after the spamming?
Go ask IRON.
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Inbred
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Posted - 2006.07.09 21:31:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Cefte
Originally by: Inbred does the time on the second dreads killmail show that it went down during/after the spamming?
Go ask IRON.
No I'm asking you. You're the ones demanding apologies so i'd just like to know why you haven't posted the second dread killmail on your own killboards yet when you're so quick to post the first one.
Or have I just caught you out?
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Antigen Po
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Posted - 2006.07.10 00:19:00 -
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Originally by: Cefte
Originally by: NATMav
We had a covert that had visual on the situation and reported the same. No respect.
1) Fofofo has been the victory cry of GoonFleet since its inception. Old-school UO players may get the reference. 2) If you were watching, or check your logs, you'll notice that goons shouted fofo in local after both dreads were dead, at a point when only a single rapier was hostile in local, and that rapier was stuck in a cyno field. 3) Apart from one offender who repeated it, each goon said fofo once. That one guy who repeated it three times has been internally reprimanded. 4) It's almost impossible to be lagged out by chat. If this was not the case, rookies would be disconnected as soon as they logged on. 5) If you're still unhappy, petition it, and get back to us when a neutral party has gone over the logs. I'm quietly confident that we'll be exonerated. 6) When you cyno in dreads five kilometers away from a conqurable station with a hundred hostiles in local and no support, blaming the losses on the victory celebration after smacks of sour grapes.
tbh I wasnt personally there and was going from second hand knowledge. Being that I wasnt personally there I retract my statement and will let IRON or others who were there speak for themselves about it if they feel its warranted. Apologizes Goons for my heated statements.
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FotoFlame
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Posted - 2006.07.10 00:26:00 -
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We werenÆt going to make a big deal out of it, at the end of the day they're just ships and we have plenty more to throw away but seeming as you couldnÆt resist a dig...
2006.07.08 05:53
Victim: Lost Dragon Alliance: Imperial Republic Of the North Corp: Synergy. Destroyed: Naglfar System: C4C-Z4 Security: 0.0
ThatÆs the killmail youÆve decided to leave off your killboard, I think youÆll agree that ties in with the timestamp of when you started to spam local.
Both are being investigated - the first has just been petitioned under a different category.
We await an answer, until then there is nothing more to talk about.
~Foto
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2006.07.10 00:39:00 -
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Originally by: FotoFlame
2006.07.08 05:53
Victim: Lost Dragon Alliance: Imperial Republic Of the North Corp: Synergy. Destroyed: Naglfar System: C4C-Z4 Security: 0.0
ThatÆs the killmail youÆve decided to leave off your killboard, I think youÆll agree that ties in with the timestamp of when you started to spam local.
So they started when it was killed, like the Goonies claimed. Thanks for proving that "spamming local" had nothing to do with it.
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Cythereon
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Posted - 2006.07.10 00:39:00 -
[144]
Originally by: FotoFlame We werenÆt going to make a big deal out of it, at the end of the day they're just ships and we have plenty more to throw away but seeming as you couldnÆt resist a dig...
2006.07.08 05:53
Victim: Lost Dragon Alliance: Imperial Republic Of the North Corp: Synergy. Destroyed: Naglfar System: C4C-Z4 Security: 0.0
ThatÆs the killmail youÆve decided to leave off your killboard, I think youÆll agree that ties in with the timestamp of when you started to spam local.
Both are being investigated - the first has just been petitioned under a different category.
We await an answer, until then there is nothing more to talk about.
~Foto
HAY LOOK: http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/CSFFlame/2006.07.08.05.52.31_copy.jpg I wonder why we started fofofoing. Perhaps because your second dread was killed?
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Inbred
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Posted - 2006.07.10 00:53:00 -
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Originally by: Pan Crastus So they started when it was killed, like the Goonies claimed. Thanks for proving that "spamming local" had nothing to do with it.
that proves nothing and screenshots can be easily editted
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Pan Crastus
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Posted - 2006.07.10 01:17:00 -
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Originally by: Inbred
that proves nothing, he was in dock range and screenshots can be easily editted.
His claim together with the known "spamming" times (05:53:15 ...) proves that they didn't spam local *before* the dread was killed (maybe during its last few seconds).
You'll find that coming up with obscure theories like screenshots being edited is even easier than doing that. ;-)
In all sympathy with those struggling to repel the Goonswarm attack, the information posted so far and the absence of any logs posted by IRON clearly shows that the spamming claim is a poor attempt to get out of this embarrassing situation.
It's just more embarrassing this way, but some people never learn.
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roikorev
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Posted - 2006.07.10 01:23:00 -
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Originally by: Inbred Edited by: Inbred on 10/07/2006 01:02:13
Originally by: Pan Crastus So they started when it was killed, like the Goonies claimed. Thanks for proving that "spamming local" had nothing to do with it.
that proves nothing, he was in dock range and screenshots can be easily editted.
At the end of the day the dread pilots and everyone who was there knows what happened. Both dreads were destroyed before there was any fofofo in local. This is an undeniable fact. If the dread pilots are saying anything otherwise they are either blind or flat out lying. I find it really dishonorable that they are saying these things and filing petitions just to save face and get free ships when they must know full well that they lost them fair and square.
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Buddrow
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Posted - 2006.07.10 05:11:00 -
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they are being looked into
personally its a ship, not the first i have lost and surely won't be the last.
the circumstances were not the best but well hey it never is
once the GM's have investigated what we are requesting being looked into we will then post the killmails if our claims are rebuked.
it has nothing to do with the NFC campaign, and personally i wouldn't beat your chest's over something the goons accomplished as we had just returned from not only simply liquifying multiple fleets from you but putting your pos into reinforced mode. so pump your breaks just a tad. ---------------------------------- "Give me but one firm spot on which to stand, and I will move earth." Archimedes c.287 - 212 BC
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Idunyken
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Posted - 2006.07.10 07:07:00 -
[149]
Originally by: Tozmeister
Not that I don't enjoy seeing IRON squrim over another absent killmail, but this arguement should be in one of the goonies threads. Not in an NFC thread.
We've had one thread locked already for discussing killmails/killboards.
Repeated for emphasis...go to the goonie threads already
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Mekarae
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Posted - 2006.07.10 21:21:00 -
[150]
It appears that NFC has had a change of leadership (warped core mining are no longer in the NFC). Membership has also dropped from 1140 to around 600.
Can someone confirm this please? Who is the new leadership?
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