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comrade christopher
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Posted - 2006.07.04 10:29:00 -
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I'm waiting for CCP to restrict WCS usage by allowing pilots to have only WCS or Scrambler onlined in same time.
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Baudolino
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Posted - 2006.07.04 12:05:00 -
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I find the whole stab discussion rediculous and pointless.
The "stabs are bad" threads would be worth while if battles were fought 1 v 1, like ancient knights or gladiators in the arena, but this is modern warfare-
The point is WINNING- a fight may often start at 1 v 1, but quickly ends in 3 v 1 or even worse odds. Stabs help you survive in a rapidly changing combat environment, and is thus an essential tactical tool.
This holds especially true for those instances where one pvps solo, in hostile space. During gang ops stabs loose their tactical value and could beneficially be replaced by support mods.
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Raneru
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Posted - 2006.07.04 12:37:00 -
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Personally, I'd say stabs are for travel setups only. When you have no intention of pvp and just need to reach a destination.
Make stabs a high slot module. Problem solved. (watch the vagabond pilots cry )
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Kaeten
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Posted - 2006.07.04 12:38:00 -
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stabs are like so... ***
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Kalaan Oratay
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Posted - 2006.07.04 12:43:00 -
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 Originally by: Archilies
Ignore what others say: Fit what you want with what you have whenever you want.
Thats such a good quote, its sig worthy 
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Originally by: Archilies
Ignore what others say: Fit what you want with what you have whenever you want.
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Ju'Ju
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Posted - 2006.07.04 13:34:00 -
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Originally by: Vergis Allen
Now how about suicide gankers, extreamly low risk and ungodly reward, especialy when they can get cans off frieghters
Freighters do not drop loot. All contents are destroyed when the freighter is blown up.
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Kirex
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Posted - 2006.07.04 13:54:00 -
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yea thats what I thought, but thats changed a few hours before you posted. :S
Linkage
Still, there wont be any freighter suicid ganks, at least not alot.
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Braveheart
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Posted - 2006.07.05 00:04:00 -
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I would stay stabs are pretty much essential as the tactic for some pvp'ers is to gate camp, the tremendous skill involved, so for anything other than a stabbed up ship OR only move about in groups - what fun.
I really dont mind losing ships to pvp combat but gate ganks are boring and monotonous.
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JoeT
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Posted - 2006.07.05 01:40:00 -
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i have more an issue with fitting ECM
its not cool to fit one ecm and jam people for 3 to 4 roations with one ecm
some people have all the luck '~~
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Blind Man
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Posted - 2006.07.05 02:04:00 -
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STABABOND FTW. that is all
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Liu Kaskakka
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Posted - 2006.07.05 04:45:00 -
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Stabs are for pussies, real men stay docked.
King Liu is RIGHT!!
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Je'hira Osiris
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Posted - 2006.07.05 09:00:00 -
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Originally by: Buccaneer Bill
I'm new to PVP and as a result have lost 15 ships in 20 days. Mostly becasue I just so little have the SP. 1mil
So I have fit stabs to even out things so I can fight another day and all I get is grief on local such as:
Pirates don't use stabs
True PVPers don't use stabs
etc etc
Why is there this attitude to stab usage and pirates ?
Whats the point of suicide ? I need something to balance an unfare fight and I'd rather live to fight another day. When my SP gets better I can reconsider.
Thoughts ?
ppl dont like stabs cos it means ppl can get away and its getting hard to find targets.
Myself im not going to use them because 1 mod can mean the difference between a win and a loose and one stab will never be enuf. you would need 3 but you would be gimping your setup sooo much attacking would be pointless.
i have seen ppl loose fights because the were carrying 3-4 stabs.
If you can afford to loose the ship fly soemthing smaller.
Respect can be found for your enemy.... its jus a case of how hard you wanna look...
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Narciss Sevar
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Posted - 2006.07.05 16:18:00 -
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They are a module to be taken advantage of. Simple as that really.
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Bach Atreides
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Posted - 2006.07.05 17:19:00 -
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Do whatever you want to. It's your account that you pay for. If people ***** and moan who gives a ****. Personally, I rat in a PVP setup with no stabs so I can try to give a would be pirate a run for their money. I don't fit stabs to my mining barges because I like to use those slots for expanded cargo holds. But I may fit stabs if I go on a recon mission to 0.0.
The reason I say "who cares if your opponents complain" is because these same people warp in next to my unarmed mining barge and blow me up. Is that a fair fight?
I have no sympathy for PVPers who complain about others fitting stabs, saying that's not honorable. But blowing up unarmed mining ships is honorable, right?
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Psycarne
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Posted - 2006.07.05 19:06:00 -
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Originally by: JoeT
i have more an issue with fitting ECM
its not cool to fit one ecm and jam people for 3 to 4 roations with one ecm
some people have all the luck '~~
Unfortunately that is another reason to fit stabs. It is no fun getting owned by 1 or 2 tech I non-EW specialised cruisers because thet perma jam you. Better to be able to warp out when that happens (and it used to happen all the time).
At least backups are better now 
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Order of the Wombles: Recycling those untidy modules on your ship.
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Lusimdoor Lighitbrine
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Posted - 2006.07.06 10:16:00 -
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i hate stab whares!!!! me and my corp mate hard 6 20km disrupters on a Mega and he warpsout....not once but it happens like 3-100000000000000000000000000000000 times aday, i think that stabs should be deleated from eve...but thats my idea.
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Brianna Solaris
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Posted - 2006.07.06 10:25:00 -
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Originally by: Buccaneer Bill
I'm new to PVP and as a result have lost 15 ships in 20 days.
This is way off-topic, but where are you going and what are you doing to find so much PvP? It sounds fun.
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Copine Callmeknau
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Posted - 2006.07.06 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Copine Callmeknau
Stabs gimp my damage, my cap, or my tank :(
meh not so much. I can fit 4 stabs on a fleet megathron for instance, and not really have to worry about much. My solo domi fitting has room for 3 easily enough, with out sacrificing much. A my Tempest fitting, 3 as well.
I don't fit them, save for travell set ups. But I certainly am not fitting them because I feel they gimp my set up to any great degree.
Did I say they gimped your setup? No, I think I said they gimped my setup
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See the idiot walk, see the idiot talk
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Algey
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Posted - 2006.07.06 13:44:00 -
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Stabs can be a very useful tool, but they won't save you against a skilled opponent who knows how to bump your ship.
I used to enjoy flying around low sec, with a couple of stabs, some nos, a pvp fitting, and a noob looking ferox. If I was jumped by a pirate in a ship that was too large I'd run off, otherwise I'd gank him.
Pirates frequently think it is fine to kill off weak opponents (and yes a pve battleship is often weak to a pvp setup cruiser), then they complain that you are a coward for not dying to them.
Come to fountain, a place oddly more dangerous than low sec space. |
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