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Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
23
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Posted - 2014.07.23 06:08:00 -
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I considered pi to support four accounts. Then I realized that I didn't want to manage 72 planets. Sounds miserable.
Not miserable (daily trips into low break the monotony) but tedious and alot more work than you think. With PLEX prices as high as they are now....not worth it IMO. I found it easier to drop extra PI accounts and just sub my 2 mains and PLEX my one off grid booster account for now.
Skill que online..... who ever posted that (too lazy to look) is awesome. Seems accurate enough. |
Tauranon
Weeesearch Greater Western Co-Prosperity Sphere
1118
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Posted - 2014.07.23 06:35:00 -
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Tennej wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:So afk income no longer lets you enjoy certain parts of the game? Looks like that free market democracy is finally dping its job huh. Damn shame it is to work for a living. Try doing PI on a massive scale then come back and tell me how "afk" it is. Your argument is invalid and not even close to being on topic.
It sounds like you (and too many others) are plexing for plexings sake, and that will inevitably raise prices. Ccp needs to care about how many plexes are sold and consumed, more than just accounts plexed. If plex prices go down, I will consume them for dual training, if they stay high, I won't.
Pi from what I can see is partially intended as an analogue to daily quests, for people that like that something needs attention when they log on, and partially designed to remove npc item sourcing, it was however not specifically designed for free extra accounts.
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Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
23
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Posted - 2014.07.23 06:44:00 -
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Tauranon wrote:Tennej wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:So afk income no longer lets you enjoy certain parts of the game? Looks like that free market democracy is finally dping its job huh. Damn shame it is to work for a living. Try doing PI on a massive scale then come back and tell me how "afk" it is. Your argument is invalid and not even close to being on topic. It sounds like you (and too many others) are plexing for plexings sake, and that will inevitably raise prices. Ccp needs to care about how many plexes are sold and consumed, more than just accounts plexed. If plex prices go down, I will consume them for dual training, if they stay high, I won't. Pi from what I can see is partially intended as an analogue to daily quests, for people that like that something needs attention when they log on, and partially designed to remove npc item sourcing, it was however not specifically designed for free extra accounts.
So YOU are the one that designed PI!!!! A curse on you!!!!
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1000
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Posted - 2014.07.23 06:47:00 -
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Tennej wrote:I considered pi to support four accounts. Then I realized that I didn't want to manage 72 planets. Sounds miserable.
Not miserable (daily trips into low break the monotony) but tedious and alot more work than you think. With PLEX prices as high as they are now....not worth it IMO. I found it easier to drop extra PI accounts and just sub my 2 mains and PLEX my one off grid booster account for now.
Skill que online..... who ever posted that (too lazy to look) is awesome. Seems accurate enough.
To compound this the move to hisec POCOs seems to have set off a substantial plummet in PI prices particularly at the P3/p4 level, possibly due to a lot of new producers. The PI market has always been shallow with any single big producer capable of crashing the market in an item if they are not careful. Unless something substantial happens to increase the demand for PI goods its likely to become less and less viable. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6255
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Posted - 2014.07.23 06:51:00 -
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Hmm, may have to start up another account to do this manufacturing thing... ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
3306
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Posted - 2014.07.23 06:59:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Hmm, may have to start up another account to do this manufacturing thing...
Just pre-empting the edict coming from the cartel bosses about opening up new accounts to counter the losses. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6257
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Posted - 2014.07.23 07:01:00 -
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Nah, there's a decent chance of being able to manufacture stuff in my home.
I never started in highsec because... well who can compete with the ME1337 BPOs and people who are able to mine minerals for free... ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Jessica Danikov
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
371
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Posted - 2014.07.23 07:12:00 -
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I pay for my 3 accounts with real moneys and buy PLEX for ISK injections (grind ISK for me, carebears, grind!), so no effect on me. |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2471
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Posted - 2014.07.23 07:20:00 -
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Two, may drop to one.
Nothing to do with the game, I have long wanted the basics to be fixed, ship re-balancing, industry etc, then add new content, just really busy real life for a while. This is not a signature. |
who1 eva
KEQ Industrial Complex ROFL Citizens
1
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Posted - 2014.07.23 07:37:00 -
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Two accounts, main account + worker. As a newish player, I had finally found a solid source of income (reprocessing tier 1 loot) but now that's almost completely gone with Crius. I still worry about what the halving of loot values will mean for income for new players in the game trying to make ISKies from PvE. As for me, I'll either find another trading-related source of income or shut the worker down and just live on my profits from the last six months or so for a while. Time will tell... |
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DeMichael Crimson
Republic University Minmatar Republic
28666
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Posted - 2014.07.23 07:48:00 -
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Tennej wrote:Skill que online..... who ever posted that (too lazy to look) is awesome. Seems accurate enough. Thanks, I posted that in my reply on page 7 post #139 :
DeMichael Crimson wrote: For the past year or so I've mainly been playing Skill Queue Online.
DMC
Faction Standing Repair Plan | California Eve Players | (Proposal) Bring Back 'The Endless Battle' Missions |
Valedictio
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
4
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Posted - 2014.07.23 10:52:00 -
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4 Accounts left now,
4 subbed,
Subs end 30 Sep '14, 22 Feb '15, 17 May '15 and (just resubbed) 13 July '15.
They were mainly carebears or skill queue online for a few reasons,
PvE Mission grinding gets boring even with constant breaks,
Mining, while boring gives us a chance to chat about anything (fleet mining)
PvP ? used to love fleet fights, didn't even mind the structure bashes (loads of chating, bit of decent banter) now it is rather stagnant and boring.
Where has all of the challenge of my piranna infested sandpit gone ? Do we need some more sand in the sandpit ? How much do we 'Simplify' Eve to advantage the NPE ?
One of My CEO's/RL Friend (Playing since 2003) has gone from 38 accounts to 3, these are plexed with the isk he has, (no he is not short of a few) he only has these active to occasionally chat and keep skills training on one or two.
The ONLY reason some of us are still here is the friends we still have left in the game and the loyalty we feel to them, the slowly degrading quality of the expansions is pitiful to say the least.
Crius was delayed to 'fix it' as it wasn't ready to go live, it deployed to SiSi and despite multiple complaints about it not being workable and 'clunky' it was still forced down our throats.
Don't get me wrong, I am in no emoragequit mode, I feel rather sad about a game I love dearly which has helped me through some bad times slowly degrade into what it is today.
CCP really needs to step back and take a good hard look at the 'challenging' aspect of the game
Bring on the Superhero's FLAME
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
6355
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Posted - 2014.07.23 10:54:00 -
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Increased from 3 to 5 in the last 6 months
Several of those I encouraged to play in the first place have gone from 1 to 2 or 3.
Seeing no reason to unsub "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5694
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Posted - 2014.07.23 10:58:00 -
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The real concern here is that the OP believes it would take 72 planet PI to earn enough to pay for 4 accounts. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Anthar Thebess
603
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Posted - 2014.07.23 11:01:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:The real concern here is that the OP believes it would take 72 planet PI to earn enough to pay for 4 accounts. I have 8 planets, and no internal strength to run them when they are doing p2/p3? in 4 days cycle. Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption |
Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
26
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Posted - 2014.07.23 11:35:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:The real concern here is that the OP believes it would take 72 planet PI to earn enough to pay for 4 accounts.
Love that you are in my head and know exactly what I'm thinking...... OK maybe you aren't..... But you look cool trying to be.
And how many accounts are you reducing or gaining?? Sorta the Topic here, not what the OP thinks.... |
Dally Lama
Republic University Minmatar Republic
91
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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:45:00 -
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Since the ice "nerf" I'm up half a dozen accounts. To compensate (overcompensate). Adaptation is the key to survival in New Eden.
8 miners, 2 freighters, 1 booster, 4 gankers, 2 traders, 4 manufacturers, and 1 shitposting forum alt.
Not sure why the assumption was made that most people have reduced accounts... although I suppose this thread does support that notion somewhat. To me it seems multiboxing and personal armies are getting more common if anything though. New Fitting Window | Distances above 10km | Maximums for buy orders |
Anthar Thebess
603
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Posted - 2014.07.23 12:56:00 -
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I think that this topic is very good way to point CCP issues other than SOV and capitals. Account reduction means that something is wrong in this place, and i find many similarities here.
1.Ice Changes , where bad to the game - accounts where lost, did something was gained? 2. Plex prices , hard to say if CCP sell more plexes , but it looks like the higher plex price the less accounts are running on them , so in theory less plex needed. 3. Bad expansions , not the stuff players expected.
I think CCP should gather information why people unsubed some of their accounts.
Why brining old , endless ice fields will be bad to the game?
Support Needed : Jump Fuel Consumption |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6261
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Posted - 2014.07.23 13:19:00 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:Why brining old , endless ice fields will be bad to the game? Do share ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |
Mistah Ewedynao
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
526
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Posted - 2014.07.23 19:14:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Nah, there's a decent chance of being able to manufacture stuff in my home.
I never started in highsec because... well who can compete with the ME1337 BPOs and people who are able to mine minerals for free...
Darn, that's funny, your industry Goonies in the feedback thread have been harping on what a waste of time it was to over-research BPO's and calling everybody who did it stupid and scamming on poor noob's.
Nerf Goons
Nuke em from orbit....it's the only way to be sure. |
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Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
120
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Posted - 2014.07.23 19:17:00 -
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Mistah Ewedynao wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Nah, there's a decent chance of being able to manufacture stuff in my home.
I never started in highsec because... well who can compete with the ME1337 BPOs and people who are able to mine minerals for free... Darn, that's funny, your industry Goonies in the feedback thread have been harping on what a waste of time it was to over-research BPO's and calling everybody who did it stupid and scamming on poor noob's.
How's that orbital nuking thing going by the way? |
MeBiatch
GRR GOONS
1901
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:15:00 -
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i used to have 4 active accounts ever since 2011 i have had one account that i come back to for casual pvp and random pve when required. tbh ever since 2011 eve has been dying a slow and miserable death. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... CCP Goliath wrote:
Ugh ti-di pooping makes me sad. |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5710
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:21:00 -
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Mistah Ewedynao wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Nah, there's a decent chance of being able to manufacture stuff in my home.
I never started in highsec because... well who can compete with the ME1337 BPOs and people who are able to mine minerals for free... Darn, that's funny, your industry Goonies in the feedback thread have been harping on what a waste of time it was to over-research BPO's and calling everybody who did it stupid and scamming on poor noob's.
I've always wondered if people read our posts & take it verbatim. I guess I have my answer. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5712
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:27:00 -
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Anthar Thebess wrote:I think that this topic is very good way to point CCP issues other than SOV and capitals. Account reduction means that something is wrong in this place, and i find many similarities here.
1.Ice Changes , where bad to the game - accounts where lost, did something was gained? 2. Plex prices , hard to say if CCP sell more plexes , but it looks like the higher plex price the less accounts are running on them , so in theory less plex needed. 3. Bad expansions , not the stuff players expected.
I think CCP should gather information why people unsubed some of their accounts.
Why brining old , endless ice fields will be bad to the game?
1. Were, was 2. Your isk is worth less 3. Months of patch notes & dev blogs. If you weren't expecting things to change then I don't know what to tell you. This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com |
Maldiro Selkurk
CHEMO IMMUNO RESISTANT VIRUS X
169
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Posted - 2014.07.23 20:30:00 -
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Tennej wrote:Since the ICE nerf and PLEX 800mil prices I'm down to 3 accounts. Might drop to 2.
How many accounts are you down to now?
Discuss
First, your base assumption that I have reduced my accounts is flawed, I have the same amount.
Secondly, I have actually increased my ISK spending by starting 2 new alt training queues. Yawn,-á I'm right as usual. The predictability kinda gets boring really. |
Titania Hrothgar
Nemesis Retribution No Excuse.
90
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Posted - 2014.07.24 00:30:00 -
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One. It's always one. I don't do alts because the moment you start getting alts, you're a slave to the game. I would either have to pay out $15 for each alt or I'd have to play all the time to make my PLEX.
Neither appeal to me. I already play WoW for my other $15 and they let me have 50 alts on one account. (granted, I can only play these alts one at a time, but it's still more than this game allows for the price)
All the world's a stage and all the men and women are the players. |
Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1005
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Posted - 2014.07.24 00:47:00 -
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TBH all that would happen if PLEX hit the multi-billion level is I might consider stopping multi-character training on a few of the secondary alts that really are trained enough to do their job and I just throw PLEX at because I can.
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Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
26
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Posted - 2014.07.24 05:21:00 -
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Maldiro Selkurk wrote:Tennej wrote:Since the ICE nerf and PLEX 800mil prices I'm down to 3 accounts. Might drop to 2.
How many accounts are you down to now?
Discuss First, your base assumption that I have reduced my accounts is flawed, I have the same amount. Secondly, I have actually increased my ISK spending by starting 2 new alt training queues.
Aren't you adorable thinking that I was speaking directly to you.
At 3 accounts now as of today (from 5) but pretty much made up my mind to keep three. Off grid booster is too luxurious even if 2 accounts seems to be optimal. |
Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
288
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Posted - 2014.07.24 05:26:00 -
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Tennej wrote:
Aren't you adorable thinking that I was speaking directly to you.
At 3 accounts now as of today (from 5) but pretty much made up my mind to keep three. Off grid booster is too luxurious even if 2 accounts seems to be optimal.
And ain't you just the cutest thang, thinking anyone cares
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
26
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Posted - 2014.07.24 05:29:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Increased from 3 to 5 in the last 6 months
Several of those I encouraged to play in the first place have gone from 1 to 2 or 3.
Seeing no reason to unsub
Not enough febreeze to cover the stink of this BS.
Cant take anything you say seriously looking at all your past posts.
Thanks for playing tho!!! :) |
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