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Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
26
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Posted - 2014.07.24 05:30:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Tennej wrote:
Aren't you adorable thinking that I was speaking directly to you.
At 3 accounts now as of today (from 5) but pretty much made up my mind to keep three. Off grid booster is too luxurious even if 2 accounts seems to be optimal.
And ain't you just the cutest thang, thinking anyone cares 
9 (correction 10) page thread says they do. Climb back under your bridge. Love you too. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6274
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Posted - 2014.07.24 05:37:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:Mistah Ewedynao wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Nah, there's a decent chance of being able to manufacture stuff in my home.
I never started in highsec because... well who can compete with the ME1337 BPOs and people who are able to mine minerals for free... Darn, that's funny, your industry Goonies in the feedback thread have been harping on what a waste of time it was to over-research BPO's and calling everybody who did it stupid and scamming on poor noob's. I've always wondered if people read our posts & take it verbatim. I guess I have my answer. the 1337 reference passed them by
or the mining minerals for free ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |

Lady Areola Fappington
2094
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Posted - 2014.07.24 05:48:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Mistah Ewedynao wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Nah, there's a decent chance of being able to manufacture stuff in my home.
I never started in highsec because... well who can compete with the ME1337 BPOs and people who are able to mine minerals for free... Darn, that's funny, your industry Goonies in the feedback thread have been harping on what a waste of time it was to over-research BPO's and calling everybody who did it stupid and scamming on poor noob's. I've always wondered if people read our posts & take it verbatim. I guess I have my answer. the 1337 reference passed them by or the mining minerals for free
I've been considering installing wind turbines on the heads of some of the more egregious grrgoons types.
The speed at which things woosh right over their heads could power a small town, I think. This thread officially has 25% more pssssssshhh than leading competitors. Rick Moranis was never put on death row for shrinking his children. New York exists outside the mind of Billy Joel. A French press is not lifting weights with your tongue out. Lena Dunham is not a girl ventriloquist. |

Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
288
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Posted - 2014.07.24 05:52:00 -
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Tennej wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Tennej wrote:
Aren't you adorable thinking that I was speaking directly to you.
At 3 accounts now as of today (from 5) but pretty much made up my mind to keep three. Off grid booster is too luxurious even if 2 accounts seems to be optimal.
And ain't you just the cutest thang, thinking anyone cares  9 (correction 10) page thread says they do. Climb back under your bridge. Love you too.
All I see is 10 pages of folks pulling the "waaa, Im quitting" gig you started.
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
27
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Posted - 2014.07.24 05:58:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Tennej wrote:Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Tennej wrote:
Aren't you adorable thinking that I was speaking directly to you.
At 3 accounts now as of today (from 5) but pretty much made up my mind to keep three. Off grid booster is too luxurious even if 2 accounts seems to be optimal.
And ain't you just the cutest thang, thinking anyone cares  9 (correction 10) page thread says they do. Climb back under your bridge. Love you too. All I see is 10 pages of folks pulling the "waaa, Im quitting" gig you started.
OK enough sweety... stay on topic please or go away. You look silly now. (When I say silly I mean "like an ass") |

Ssabat Thraxx
Dominion Tenebrarum Reverberation Project
289
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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:11:00 -
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Tennej wrote:
OK enough sweety... stay on topic please or go away.
..uh-huh, says the Grammar Police... 
Tennej wrote:
Do you know that doing isn't spelled dping?
Either the rules apply to everyone, or they don't justly apply to anyone.
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Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
27
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Posted - 2014.07.24 06:17:00 -
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Ssabat Thraxx wrote:Tennej wrote:
OK enough sweety... stay on topic please or go away.
..uh-huh, says the Grammar Police...  Tennej wrote:
Do you know that doing isn't spelled dping?
You can have the last word if thats what you need to go away...... very silly you point to a spelling error as grammar but w/e. |

Zinther Del'Ara
Viziam Amarr Empire
12
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Posted - 2014.07.24 13:54:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Nah, there's a decent chance of being able to manufacture stuff in my home.
I never started in highsec because... well who can compete with the ME1337 BPOs and people who are able to mine minerals for free...
I'd like to clear a few things up regarding industry for you :)
The bpo's with high ME were there as a "selling point" for copies, anything beyond me10 was just for show (me100 for ammo).
Minerals are never free, but i know you're just trolling with that one. ;)
The ones you will be competing with on the market, in the hubs are the "wall-street"'ers, buy low, sell high, sometimes below mineral cost of items.
Asfaik, you don't need need another account now, since the only skills you need to compete are pretty much industry lvl1. And that is my point - I know several other professions have been screwed skill-wise, but industry is prettyy much just gone as a specialization.
What i *think* this is gonna do is screw up the market badly. A horde of "omg minerals are free, since i mined them and refined them myself" will rush in, and enjoy not having to know what profit is or spreadsheets and tools for making sure you're actually getting a little profit.
If you think prices in ships are high because of greed, think again, most ships are 5% profit. Ammo and drones are 25% mostly, but for that extra profit I have to fly around and they lock up production slots for ages.
Yes, "the tears are delicious" and things "are going according to plan" - Time will tell, I have already seen stuff on market that reeks of "my minerals are free, and i will undercut errbody and be rich!" - Good for the consumer in the short run. |

Serene Repose
1446
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Posted - 2014.07.24 16:09:00 -
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Tennej wrote:Since the ICE nerf and PLEX 800mil prices I'm down to 3 accounts. Might drop to 2. How many accounts are you down to now? Discuss It's good to learn it all meant so much to you. It's good to know you put so much time, attention and consideration in your "accounts" that you counted them as keepsakes. That being said: It's tragic to learn you just HAD to part with them to prove some point.
It makes me want to...
QQ! I have sworn upon the altar of God eternal hostility toward every form of tyranny over the mind of man.-á |

Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
27
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Posted - 2014.07.24 22:58:00 -
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Serene Repose wrote:Tennej wrote:Since the ICE nerf and PLEX 800mil prices I'm down to 3 accounts. Might drop to 2. How many accounts are you down to now? Discuss It's good to learn it all meant so much to you. It's good to know you put so much time, attention and consideration in your "accounts" that you counted them as keepsakes. That being said: It's tragic to learn you just HAD to part with them to prove some point. It makes me want to... QQ!
Nice to see that instead of staying on topic you decided to go all Joe Dirt and just attack the OP. You and your poison are part of why this game (and its forums) have such a crappy reputation.
Your post isn't witty or special... it makes you appear to be just silly and ignorant. But by all means... keep doing whatever makes you feel special sweetheart. |
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Ryuu Towryk
Reiuji Heavy Industries
22
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Posted - 2014.07.24 23:09:00 -
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I'll probably go on another extended break. The problem I have with Eve is that it's just boring these days.
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Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
105
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Posted - 2014.07.24 23:14:00 -
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As previously pointed out it really doesn't matter if people who pay for accounts with PLEX close the accounts, the lights and salaries are paid by the people who have paid subs and the people who buy PLEX with RL money.
Accounts paid for by PLEX are basically Free to Play accounts.
I should cross post this in the unpopular opinions thread  |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5645
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Posted - 2014.07.24 23:57:00 -
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Xavier Liche wrote:As previously pointed out it really doesn't matter if people who pay for accounts with PLEX close the accounts, the lights and salaries are paid by the people who have paid subs and the people who buy PLEX with RL money. Accounts paid for by PLEX are basically Free to Play accounts. I should cross post this in the unpopular opinions thread 
No, you should post this in the "Dumb as a stump" thread.
Mr Epeen 
There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1009
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Posted - 2014.07.25 00:09:00 -
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Zinther Del'Ara wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Nah, there's a decent chance of being able to manufacture stuff in my home.
I never started in highsec because... well who can compete with the ME1337 BPOs and people who are able to mine minerals for free... I'd like to clear a few things up regarding industry for you :) The bpo's with high ME were there as a "selling point" for copies, anything beyond me10 was just for show (me100 for ammo). Minerals are never free, but i know you're just trolling with that one. ;) The ones you will be competing with on the market, in the hubs are the "wall-street"'ers, buy low, sell high, sometimes below mineral cost of items. Asfaik, you don't need need another account now, since the only skills you need to compete are pretty much industry lvl1. And that is my point - I know several other professions have been screwed skill-wise, but industry is prettyy much just gone as a specialization. What i *think* this is gonna do is screw up the market badly. A horde of "omg minerals are free, since i mined them and refined them myself" will rush in, and enjoy not having to know what profit is or spreadsheets and tools for making sure you're actually getting a little profit. If you think prices in ships are high because of greed, think again, most ships are 5% profit. Ammo and drones are 25% mostly, but for that extra profit I have to fly around and they lock up production slots for ages. Yes, "the tears are delicious" and things "are going according to plan" - Time will tell, I have already seen stuff on market that reeks of "my minerals are free, and i will undercut errbody and be rich!" - Good for the consumer in the short run.
lol .. yeah i must admit the hisec part of Crius has sort of reminded me a bit of one of those early 20th century banana republic revolutions where they kick out all the "foreigners" and hand the factories over to be run by illiterate farm laborers :D
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Good Posting
Posting with my Mind
163
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Posted - 2014.07.25 01:30:00 -
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Xavier Liche wrote:As previously pointed out it really doesn't matter if people who pay for accounts with PLEX close the accounts, the lights and salaries are paid by the people who have paid subs and the people who buy PLEX with RL money. Accounts paid for by PLEX are basically Free to Play accounts. I should cross post this in the unpopular opinions thread 
Yeah, i play for free but thanks to a random player that buys plex with real money, and then i give him fake money because for whatever reason i don't know he likes fake money more than real money. In the end, the result is the same and my account is paid with real money, but not with my real money.
I feel like Grover trying to explain this to a kid but it was obviously necessary.
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Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1012
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Posted - 2014.07.25 01:42:00 -
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Good Posting wrote:Xavier Liche wrote:As previously pointed out it really doesn't matter if people who pay for accounts with PLEX close the accounts, the lights and salaries are paid by the people who have paid subs and the people who buy PLEX with RL money. Accounts paid for by PLEX are basically Free to Play accounts. I should cross post this in the unpopular opinions thread  Yeah, i play for free but thanks to a random player that buys plex with real money, and then i give him fake money because for whatever reason i don't know he likes fake money more than real money. In the end, the result is the same and my account is paid with real money, but not with my real money. I feel like Grover trying to explain this to a kid but it was obviously necessary.
All very true.
But all you do is create an increased demand for PLEX which puts the price up which encourages more people to buy PLEX with real money.
Now it seems probable at this point in time PLEXing accounts is the main thing that drives PLEX sales in-game hence encouraging other people to spend real money on PLEX. This I agree with.
HOWEVER if long term OTHER demands for PLEX (like kinky underwear for your avatar or reskinning your Thorax to look like Homer Simpson's nose) begin to outweigh the price pressure from PLEXing accounts that may eventually change. |

Dave Stark
6666
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Posted - 2014.07.25 04:33:00 -
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Tennej wrote:Since the ICE nerf and PLEX 800mil prices I'm down to 3 accounts. Might drop to 2.
How many accounts are you down to now?
Discuss
if you're a miner, you won't drop from 3 accounts to 2. |

Bad Bobby
Bring Me Sunshine In Tea We Trust
553
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Posted - 2014.07.25 06:30:00 -
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Over the last year I've dropped from 16 accounts to 6 and I'm looking to drop another 2 in the near future.
The accounts I've already dropped were primarily used for making isk, but with CCP threatening to nuke T2 BPOs there isn't really anything for me to spend the isk on, so rather than grinding isk for the sake of it I've decided to retire from industry until things improve.
The accounts I'm about to drop were used for supporting my PvP, but after some terrible customer service experiences with CCP I've decided to drop those too.
I'll be left with my 4 oldest accounts, which I primarily use for PvP. |

Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
27
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Posted - 2014.07.25 06:31:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Tennej wrote:Since the ICE nerf and PLEX 800mil prices I'm down to 3 accounts. Might drop to 2.
How many accounts are you down to now?
Discuss if you're a miner, you won't drop from 3 accounts to 2.
Definately mined alot in a former life and that actually went into my thought process in the decision to stay with 3 accounts.
Good call. |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2472
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Posted - 2014.07.25 15:24:00 -
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Mr Epeen wrote:Xavier Liche wrote:As previously pointed out it really doesn't matter if people who pay for accounts with PLEX close the accounts, the lights and salaries are paid by the people who have paid subs and the people who buy PLEX with RL money. Accounts paid for by PLEX are basically Free to Play accounts. I should cross post this in the unpopular opinions thread  No, you should post this in the "Dumb as a stump" thread. Mr Epeen 
Dumb as a stump - never heard that one before, made me smile.  This is not a signature. |
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Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
107
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Posted - 2014.07.25 18:52:00 -
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Good Posting wrote:Xavier Liche wrote:As previously pointed out it really doesn't matter if people who pay for accounts with PLEX close the accounts, the lights and salaries are paid by the people who have paid subs and the people who buy PLEX with RL money. Accounts paid for by PLEX are basically Free to Play accounts. I should cross post this in the unpopular opinions thread  Yeah, i play for free but thanks to a random player that buys plex with real money, and then i give him fake money because for whatever reason i don't know he likes fake money more than real money. In the end, the result is the same and my account is paid with real money, but not with my real money. I feel like Grover trying to explain this to a kid but it was obviously necessary.
Except the part where you buy the PLEX, really doesn't matter, CCP gets the cash even if the PLEX is never used or it is used for a service.
Binding a myth to the truth doesn't make the myth true.
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Baron' Soontir Fel
Justified Chaos
226
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Posted - 2014.07.25 19:19:00 -
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I plexed this one account, then when prices got too high, I bought a subscription instead.
GF CCP... GF |

Whitemift
Open University of Celestial Hardship Art of War Alliance
0
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Posted - 2014.07.26 23:28:00 -
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7
then 5
then 3
probably 2 soon... |

Xavier Liche
ACME Mineral and Gas
107
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Posted - 2014.07.27 17:14:00 -
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So that's 4, + 2x3 = 10!!!
Demand Reduced by 10 on PLEX with $0 cost to CCP and probably 4 less afkers.
Its all win. |

Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn
Department 10
174
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Posted - 2014.07.28 08:57:00 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:Tennej wrote:I considered pi to support four accounts. Then I realized that I didn't want to manage 72 planets. Sounds miserable.
Not miserable (daily trips into low break the monotony) but tedious and alot more work than you think. With PLEX prices as high as they are now....not worth it IMO. I found it easier to drop extra PI accounts and just sub my 2 mains and PLEX my one off grid booster account for now.
Skill que online..... who ever posted that (too lazy to look) is awesome. Seems accurate enough. To compound this the move to hisec POCOs seems to have set off a substantial plummet in PI prices particularly at the P3/p4 level, possibly due to a lot of new producers. The PI market has always been shallow with any single big producer capable of crashing the market in an item if they are not careful. Unless something substantial happens to increase the demand for PI goods its likely to become less and less viable.
I'm not sure the hisec POCOs have caused any price drop with PI prices. That change was a while back after all. At the time I wouldn't be surprised if there was a price increase in PI goods. We stopped doing PI at that point after the null sec entities took over large proportions of the POCOs. It became too much of a pain in the ****.
I expect the industry changes with infinite slots and cancelling bonuses for multiple arrays will have affected the P3 & P4 prices though. |

Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
32
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Posted - 2014.07.28 09:22:00 -
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Ekaterina 'Ghetto' Thurn wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:Tennej wrote:I considered pi to support four accounts. Then I realized that I didn't want to manage 72 planets. Sounds miserable.
Not miserable (daily trips into low break the monotony) but tedious and alot more work than you think. With PLEX prices as high as they are now....not worth it IMO. I found it easier to drop extra PI accounts and just sub my 2 mains and PLEX my one off grid booster account for now.
Skill que online..... who ever posted that (too lazy to look) is awesome. Seems accurate enough. To compound this the move to hisec POCOs seems to have set off a substantial plummet in PI prices particularly at the P3/p4 level, possibly due to a lot of new producers. The PI market has always been shallow with any single big producer capable of crashing the market in an item if they are not careful. Unless something substantial happens to increase the demand for PI goods its likely to become less and less viable. I'm not sure the hisec POCOs have caused any price drop with PI prices. That change was a while back after all. At the time I wouldn't be surprised if there was a price increase in PI goods. We stopped doing PI at that point after the null sec entities took over large proportions of the POCOs. It became too much of a pain in the ****. I expect the industry changes with infinite slots and cancelling bonuses for multiple arrays will have affected the P3 & P4 prices though.
I so hope you are right. Most of my ISK comes from PI (low sec) and lately the prices have been plummeting on the p2's. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
6307
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Posted - 2014.07.28 09:25:00 -
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Sell me more PI goods in Jita, thanks.
I gotta produce, produce, produce.... industry calls ^^ Delicious goon ((tech nerf, siphon, drone assist, supercap)) tears.
Taking a wrecking ball to the futile hopes and broken dreams of skillless blobbers. |

Summer Isle
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
45
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Posted - 2014.07.28 12:42:00 -
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I'm not unsubscribing either of my two mains. I have a specialized third account who I only subscribe for specific purposes, but it was never intended to be a perma-subbed account. When I have need of it, I subscribe it for 3 months, then let it lapse until I need it again. I'm actually considering adding a fourth account, a perma-subbed one, to create a dedicated PvP char. I'll probably be doing that after Bronycon this coming weekend. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
7368
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Posted - 2014.07.28 12:54:00 -
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Still will never understand how people can't make 26 million isk per day per account , to the point where it's time to get rid of accounts lol.
This one easy as hell lvl 4 mission provides enough isk (if you loot/salvage) to provide a plex if you do one per day, and it's not even the best mission, it takes now time at all to complete in a tech 1 BS. |

Tennej
LoTax POCO Company of HiSEC
34
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Posted - 2014.07.28 13:04:00 -
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Jenn aSide wrote:Still will never understand how people can't make 26 million isk per day per account , to the point where it's time to get rid of accounts lol. This one easy as hell lvl 4 mission provides enough isk (if you loot/salvage) to provide a plex if you do one per day, and it's not even the best mission, it takes now time at all to complete in a tech 1 BS.
Still cant understand why I would keep an account I am not using so I let 2 go. Easier to sub 2 and Plex just one instead of 3. Come to think of it there is really not that much to understand. |
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