are ccp doing anything about the cost of jobs in pos when there are your own?

The whole SC/Titan customer service stuff is a joke

I have had them on speeddial for 2 days

are ccp doing anything about the cost of jobs in pos when there are your own?

I really don't think this 6 week dev cycle is a good idea...

A question: I know that for jobs started in a pos with the blueprint in the station were moved to the station. I understand that for supercaps if we dare touch those jobs, deliver into station, etc then customer support is going to drop the hammer and we are to let customer service deliver the jobs themselves to the pos and delete the ship if the pos is torn down or destroyed, all that was very clear.

For other jobs, are we required to still pretend those jobs are in the pos, or can they just be delivered to the station? And can the pos be torn down, or should we maintain the pos until the jobs are delivered, even though they're supposedly at the pos?

I don't actually have any jobs that fall into the latter category but people in our alliance have asked and I'd like to make sure whatever they're supposed to do is clear so nobody gets in trouble or loses anything.

I'll have to disagree with you on that point. I think it is a good idea.

However, this release is an example of how not to use a 6 week Dev cycle. Because it is clear that many of the features deployed in this release needed more time to be developed, reviewed and tested. Therefore they should have postponed much of the content for 6 weeks, finished it to a higher standard and then released it in a good state. This is one of the very reasons why they have moved to a 6 week Dev cycle and yet they failed to avail themselves of it's advantages.

What we have recieved is an unpolished, feature light and bug heavy expansion... essentially the worst of all worlds. But it is not because of a 6 week Dev cycle.

I'll have to disagree with you on that point. I think it is a good idea.

However, this release is an example of how not to use a 6 week Dev cycle. Because it is clear that many of the features deployed in this release needed more time to be developed, reviewed and tested. Therefore they should have postponed much of the content for 6 weeks, finished it to a higher standard and then released it in a good state. This is one of the very reasons why they have moved to a 6 week Dev cycle and yet they failed to avail themselves of it's advantages.

What we have recieved is an unpolished, feature light and bug heavy expansion... essentially the worst of all worlds. But it is not because of a 6 week Dev cycle.

Well most of the stuff in Crius was originally slated for Kronos, which was the last 6 month expansion.

Well most of the stuff in Crius was originally slated for Kronos, which was the last 6 month expansion.

For all jobs that are not supercaps, you are allowed to deliver them in station.They are now in the station and not in the pos so the pos can also be removed.

Which also doesn't reinforce any criticism of the 6 week Dev cycle.

It is certainly a criticism of CCPs ability to deliver quality content on schedule. And I think they owe the players an appology for Crius. But proper use of their 6 week Dev cycle could have fixed this.

I have not noticed any change in the Corporate Hangar Array cargohold size. Does this change affect only those built after the patch?

"Corporate Hangar Arrays cargohold has been increased from 1,400,000 m3 to 3,000,000 m3"

When bidding for a team, if you bid too low, a message states:

Bid needs to be higher than X

However, bids less than 1.00 ISK above X are also rejected, with the same message. That is, you can't raise X by 0.01 ISK: you need to raise it by 1.00 ISK.

X + 1.00 ISK works
X + 0.01 ISK does not

That's the problem CCP has shown they cant properly use the 6 week cycle. Other games and companies maybe but not this one.They will want to push something out every 6 weeks no matter how broken it is instead of having to skip one expansion or it be really really light in content.

Plus their stated things they will be working on include reworking some of the most ignored and worst systems in the game (corp management and POS's)

New graphical interface of industry is really nice. I tryed to work with it and I have to say "well done CCP". Finaly the industry is easy to understand and our mouses will love it :-). But here all my compliments finish !

Bugs bugs bugs. I realy do not understand, that even when you have realy big list of unsolved bugs, you give this to live server. Let us make it clear - we are your customers - we are not testing engeeners dedicated for finding bugs. You do not pay us for finding bugs. When you publish in your dev blogs details about funcionality - so players expect, that it will work exactly like this. Most of other software developers previously test their products before releasing it. I thing that better way is to postpone release date and use this time for solving problems and bugs, than release unfinished "something" and hope, that it will "somehow" work and that comunity will help you find bugs.

My decision is to stop all industry and research and wait month or two until you will solve all the problems. I guess many more other players will do the same.

one sugeestion
In new industry window in "facilities" tabs are shown only available facilites in the current reagion (work same as market). When you gave us possibility to start jobs remotly limited only by jumps (not regions), it would be nice to show list off all available facilites based on distance (including all nearby regions). It could realy help when tryding to find cheapes place to manufacture etc. Or it should work like this and actual condition is bug?

One thing I probably did not catch or it is a bug??
I tryed to check instalation prices of all industry and research on my corporation pos and on NPC stations in nearby systems. Instalation cost on my POS was highter than on NPC station. First of all - why do I have to pay instalation cost, when I own the facility? Second - This has no reason for players to run own POS. Fueling it and paying instalation costs (even higher than on NPC station) leads to decicion - unanchore pos and start using NPC stations. Is it a bug or it was intended? Or am i doing something wrong in industry window?

Anyone else think we should seriously have a rollback until CCP figures everything out?

I know we function as your wageless testers CCP, but there's a limit.