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Aramendel	Posted - 2006.07.05 17:00:00 - [31] Wondering about that myself, the mega has these very 5% damage and 7.5% tracking you suggest for a blasterboat. If not the ship boni, what does make the mega a railboat then?
Gierling	Posted - 2006.07.05 17:15:00 - [32] It won't get a damage bonus if the devs wnat the Megathron to ever be flown again. Falloff and MWD are the most likely. Click Me And Me
FawKa	Posted - 2006.07.05 17:17:00 - [33] Originally by: Sunetra You say Damping bonus is stupid, but thats what it's going to be and it's going to be awesome. 10% Sensor damper Falloff per level and 5% sensor damper efectivness per level please. Sunetra Yes, as damps helps Rails not blasters - we got a railboat. So whats so awsome again? FIX BEFORE FEATURE BRIGADE!
madaluap	Posted - 2006.07.05 17:21:00 - [34] Originally by: Wolverine PL Does anyone know if what kind of battleships it will be? I read its gonna be damper like ship (bigger celestis) which I hope isnt true. Caldari will get rails, so gallente should get.... missile type Battleship. Anyone from CCP can confirm that? wtf? it will be a sensordamp ship and it will PWN y0!1!11 atleast i hope so, blasting = mega rails = mega drones = dominix and missiles arent the gallente way so we get 7 medslot damp ship, allthough 7 is crap, but i know ccp will never give gallente more medslots than caldari. _________________________________________________
Wolverine PL	Posted - 2006.07.05 17:22:00 - [35] We already have blasterboat, but missile would be nice. Look at caldari, they are getting rails, so they will have rails ship, missile ship, ew ship. So gallente could be ..... missile ship with ew Like 5-6 (6-7 hi slot) missile lauchers with 5-6 med slots for dampers. But mixed type guns/missiles
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.07.05 17:36:00 - [36] Aha! My inside source revealed what the new Gallente battleship's bonuses will be! +10% to mining laser yield +5% to dating men -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
Aeaus	Posted - 2006.07.05 17:54:00 - [37] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Aha! My inside source revealed what the new Gallente battleship's bonuses will be! +10% to mining laser yield +5% to dating men These bonuses FTW. The developers have said Tier III would be focused on Fleet Combat; Caldari are getting a railboat, the Gallente are probably getting a dedicated railboat too. My Guides (Recomended Reading)
Mather Maelstrom	Posted - 2006.07.05 18:03:00 - [38] No missiles ffs, I want my Gallente ship to use drones and guns. So what if the ship would have a 'range' + 'damage' bonus for sentry drones + a dampening bonus? That could be interesting. 5 sniper drones + 8x 425mm rail. We won't get the uber range the Caldari BS is going to have, but we can make up by dampening. //No Pro Gallente RP, no Coreli & Cyrene anymore\\
FawKa	Posted - 2006.07.05 18:05:00 - [39] Originally by: madaluap Originally by: Wolverine PL Does anyone know if what kind of battleships it will be? I read its gonna be damper like ship (bigger celestis) which I hope isnt true. Caldari will get rails, so gallente should get.... missile type Battleship. Anyone from CCP can confirm that? wtf? it will be a sensordamp ship and it will PWN y0!1!11 atleast i hope so, blasting = mega rails = mega drones = dominix and missiles arent the gallente way so we get 7 medslot damp ship, allthough 7 is crap, but i know ccp will never give gallente more medslots than caldari. Try think for a sec. 6 slots for guns, 1 for launcher 7 slots for EW 7 slots for tanking I bet you can see it yourself - wont happen. end. FIX BEFORE FEATURE BRIGADE!
Arkios Odymei	Posted - 2006.07.05 18:10:00 - [40] Well, Copy and paste this baby into your EvE In-Game-Browser and click away... http://www.eve-files.com/media/0603/ships.txt Its showing the Gallente BS to have: - 8 high slots (8 turrets/1 launcher) - 6 Mid slots - 6 Low slots And Im pretty sure that the overall theme for all of the tier 3 BS's is long range fleet combat, so a sensor-dampening / Rail boat would make sense, and be pretty effective aswell. My guess is: +10% to Sensor-dampener falloff, +5% Large Hybrid damage. In fleet stand offs, it would be like a Scorp (in the fact that it wont let the emenys obtain a lock, unless they are at close ranges) that packs a Punch (from a full rack of bonus-boosted 425's).
madaluap	Posted - 2006.07.05 18:13:00 - [41] Originally by: FawKa Originally by: madaluap Originally by: Wolverine PL Does anyone know if what kind of battleships it will be? I read its gonna be damper like ship (bigger celestis) which I hope isnt true. Caldari will get rails, so gallente should get.... missile type Battleship. Anyone from CCP can confirm that? wtf? it will be a sensordamp ship and it will PWN y0!1!11 atleast i hope so, blasting = mega rails = mega drones = dominix and missiles arent the gallente way so we get 7 medslot damp ship, allthough 7 is crap, but i know ccp will never give gallente more medslots than caldari. Try think for a sec. 6 slots for guns, 1 for launcher 7 slots for EW 7 slots for tanking I bet you can see it yourself - wont happen. end. Wowow no need for rolling eyes here (i hate that smilly ..) when did i say it has 6 high or 7 low... i said it will have 7 med and now go roll yourself _________________________________________________
Shindalin	Posted - 2006.07.05 18:21:00 - [42] I hope to god almigthy that CCP wont get missiles on this one! I will get myself a Ishtar or two and kill any hc¦s that the dev¦s fly in the game if they do put missiles on this one.
Gabriel Karade	Posted - 2006.07.05 18:22:00 - [43] Edited by: Gabriel Karade on 05/07/2006 18:22:19 Originally by: Arkios Odymei Well, Copy and paste this baby into your EvE In-Game-Browser and click away... http://www.eve-files.com/media/0603/ships.txt Its showing the Gallente BS to have: - 8 high slots (8 turrets/1 launcher) - 6 Mid slots - 6 Low slots And Im pretty sure that the overall theme for all of the tier 3 BS's is long range fleet combat, so a sensor-dampening / Rail boat would make sense, and be pretty effective aswell. My guess is: +10% to Sensor-dampener falloff, +5% Large Hybrid damage. In fleet stand offs, it would be like a Scorp (in the fact that it wont let the emenys obtain a lock, unless they are at close ranges) that packs a Punch (from a full rack of bonus-boosted 425's). 10% to large Blaster damage per level, 5% less penalty to max capacitor for MicroWarpdrive usage per level. Come on! sign meh! ---------- - Office Linebacker -
FawKa	Posted - 2006.07.05 18:24:00 - [44] Originally by: madaluap Originally by: FawKa Originally by: madaluap Originally by: Wolverine PL Does anyone know if what kind of battleships it will be? I read its gonna be damper like ship (bigger celestis) which I hope isnt true. Caldari will get rails, so gallente should get.... missile type Battleship. Anyone from CCP can confirm that? wtf? it will be a sensordamp ship and it will PWN y0!1!11 atleast i hope so, blasting = mega rails = mega drones = dominix and missiles arent the gallente way so we get 7 medslot damp ship, allthough 7 is crap, but i know ccp will never give gallente more medslots than caldari. Try think for a sec. 6 slots for guns, 1 for launcher 7 slots for EW 7 slots for tanking I bet you can see it yourself - wont happen. end. Wowow no need for rolling eyes here (i hate that smilly ..) when did i say it has 6 high or 7 low... i said it will have 7 med and now go roll yourself So, you just want 7 meds, and 4-5 for tanking and a mixed highslot setup. Just go for a scorp - and for the other poster, caldari gets the railboat, would be odd to make two railboats afterall, would it not? FIX BEFORE FEATURE BRIGADE!
Ithildin	Posted - 2006.07.05 18:25:00 - [45] A falloff would be a serious waste, especially on a tier 3 ship. The thing is, Dampeners weren't meant to be effective long range, which is why they have more falloff than optimal range. Additionally, without an effectiveness bonus dampeners are more or less useless (compared to ECM). Four dampeners (mid slots) and an interceptor still has 5km lock range and less than 10 seconds to lock a Helios (this is with level 4 skills)? A prediction for a tier 3 dampener ship is, that if anything it would have a fitting similar to 8/7/5 with 6 turrets and 2-3 launchers (although would be neat with a 6 turret and 4 launchers just to mirror the Caldari version). 5% effectiveness, of course. Preferably a bit higher, considering that it takes 3 mid slots to do any sort of dampening damage on a hostile ship - and now we're talking battleship grade, so it needs to be a bit stronger! Then there is that last bonus. Anyone else noticed Gallente always get +5% hybrid damage? No need to change that tradition, really. New sig coming soonÖ By "soon" I do not necessarily mean "this year"
Yazoul Samaiel	Posted - 2006.07.05 18:44:00 - [46] Originally by: Sarmaul I suggest a split-weapon system - 4 missiles, 4 blasters, the CPU of the phoon, the pg of the dominix and the speed of the raven. Now that would be nice but redundant Unless the sensor dampner bonus can drop the range of the enemy bs to under blaster raneg then i dotn think it would be worth it , as for fitting rails the dps would be gimped beyound recognition. "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
Gabriel Karade	Posted - 2006.07.05 19:00:00 - [47] Originally by: Gabriel Karade 10% to large Blaster damage per level, 5% less penalty to max capacitor for MicroWarpdrive usage per level. Come on! sign meh! And why this could work without making the Megathron obsolete (based upon the 8/6/6 Tier 3 configuration)... Tech II Ion Mega with AM ammo and 2 Damage modules = 700 dps + 5 Heavy drones (Ogres - 316 dps) With 7 turrets, no damage modules, and no 25% damage bonus that is 380 Dps (approx +47% DPS for two modules) Ok taking that as base, x 8/7 for number of turrets x 1.5 for the damage bonus x 1.23 for 1 damage module (1 less low slot on the Tier III) = 800 dps So the Tier III's turrets do more damage, BUT last I checked it was unable to field a bay of heavy drones - 5x Hammerhead II's was the best achievable, which is approximately 155 DPS So: Megathron - 700 + 316 DPS = 1016 Tier 3 - 800 + 155 DPS = 955 i.e. the Tier 3 would be a sturdier platform, but would not hit quite as hard overall, plus it has no bonus to railguns unlike the Megathron. Give us Ze Blaster Boat! ---------- - Office Linebacker -
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.07.05 19:03:00 - [48] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari Aha! My inside source revealed what the new Gallente battleship's bonuses will be! +10% to mining laser yield +5% to dating men entity is going to cream himself
Gabriel Karade	Posted - 2006.07.05 20:00:00 - [49] Originally by: Arkios Odymei Well, Copy and paste this baby into your EvE In-Game-Browser and click away... http://www.eve-files.com/media/0603/ships.txt Its showing the Gallente BS to have: - 8 high slots (8 turrets/1 launcher) - 6 Mid slots - 6 Low slots And Im pretty sure that the overall theme for all of the tier 3 BS's is long range fleet combat, so a sensor-dampening / Rail boat would make sense, and be pretty effective aswell. Only one problem here, the Gallente Tier 3 at the moment has a base targeting range of 50km (compared to 72km for a Megathron), it also has a huge capactior (5760 compared to 4500 for a Megathron), not to mention it is faster than a Megathron - all in all, it sounds like a short range boat to me. now gimme that 10% Blaster damage per level ---------- - Office Linebacker -
Ithildin	Posted - 2006.07.05 20:02:00 - [50] Ah. Everyone are aware that those stats are from before Tuxford's team ever began looking at tier 3 battleships? They really should've been deleted from the database long ago. Would've saved a lot of people a lot of trouble. New sig coming soonÖ By "soon" I do not necessarily mean "this year"
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.07.05 20:03:00 - [51] Originally by: Ithildin Ah. Everyone are aware that those stats are from before Tuxford's team ever began looking at tier 3 battleships? They really should've been deleted from the database long ago. Would've saved a lot of people a lot of trouble. remeber the tech2 ammo though
Terraform	Posted - 2006.07.05 20:10:00 - [52] damn, i can't believe how many whiners are going "if it's this or that kind of ship i'm going to leave eve". I mean come on, you're seriously going to balance your entire game on one little ship? I personally hope they release the worst kind of ships that everyone hates which will make some whiners leave, and then nobody will use them so it's all back to normal... in my opinion tech 3 ships = just another reason for people to whine about something. and no, i'm not being pessimistic.. much... Shaper and destroyer of worlds... i love my job!
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.07.05 20:12:00 - [53] I DEMAND THAT THE CALDARI BATTLESHIP HAVE RED STRIPES TO MATCH MY HAIR OR I'M LEAVING EVE! shakes fist -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.07.05 20:16:00 - [54] Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari I DEMAND THAT THE CALDARI BATTLESHIP HAVE RED STRIPES TO MATCH MY HAIR OR I'M LEAVING EVE! shakes fist As long as gallente one is based off Verone's hair
Exiled One	Posted - 2006.07.05 20:28:00 - [55] Buttplug.
slothe	Posted - 2006.07.05 21:00:00 - [56] Originally by: Gierling It won't get a damage bonus if the devs wnat the Megathron to ever be flown again. Falloff and MWD are the most likely. after thinking about it logically i think this is gonna be the case
Jon Xylur	Posted - 2006.07.05 21:17:00 - [57] The new Gallenet BS will only have 1 highslot an dno weapon hardpoints, but it gets 99% CPU and pg reduction for a new special module.It doens't do anythign to most ships but when used agaoinst a Raven it does 999999999999 damage and pods the Raven pilot. This serves to nerf the Rvaen without touching the ship itself, because the Caldari won't let the devs touch thei'r BBQ mobile. Overpowered? Not really a sit work only agaoinst one ship. Limited? Not really as half of the ships out there are Ravens. Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, and not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty - Cortes
SasRipper	Posted - 2006.07.05 21:25:00 - [58] anything but missiles anything we dont want a big lacheis! blasters + null + faction web + damps = might work Originally by: Santiago Cortes Please don't derail your own thread.
Nikolai Nuvolari	Posted - 2006.07.05 22:20:00 - [59] Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Nikolai Nuvolari I DEMAND THAT THE CALDARI BATTLESHIP HAVE RED STRIPES TO MATCH MY HAIR OR I'M LEAVING EVE! shakes fist As long as gallente one is based off Verone's hair Verone's hair is pink, and half the Gallente T2 ships are made my Roden, which makes them pink...so it would fit in perfectly! -------- Tom Thumb > for a nut case you rawk [04:21:15] Mebrithiel Ju'wien > Nik's bio 4tw btw [07:38:53] Graelyn > Nikolai for Dev 108!
White Ronin	Posted - 2006.07.05 22:22:00 - [60] Damper/Drone rig and fit a tracking disrupter.... +10% to drone hit points and damage + 5% to Damper effectiveness OR to tracking disrupter effectiveness. Yeah, that would be nice.

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