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Phoenix vajaa
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:04:00 -
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Simple question and reason for it. EVE has a estimated market share of $93 million. (per year I am assuming) Star CItizen is approaching $46million funding.
Not being funny but have you seen the level of content they are putting out over there for half the money? I love EVE but lets be honest some of it is as old as the players who play it. AND IT'S BARREN! the universe as in the space it'self is SOOOOOO empty and devoid of anything happening. Also we are stuck on a single core limitation still. Are you guys at CCP re-writing the base code to solve this? is that where the moneys gone? If so then fantastic. Or do iceland dev's just work half the time other game dev's do? Seriously.
Once again. LOVE EVE but why is there so little of it for 10 years of development.? Maybe we should have a new region set up where you can only lock 1 ship at a time. call it the newbs and bitter vets region where you can go play solo and be happy and then you can say EVE has a friendly zone so new players take interest and then ccp can be like "hey its fun to come to eve why not take part in our stretch goals" Or something.
Yea part of this post is serious, rest not so much. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:09:00 -
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Has SC put out any content? That's newGǪ GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:11:00 -
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This can't possibly be serious. Yes, I too enjoy the idea of sinking millions of dollars toward likely vaporware.
Fake Edit: oh, wait...just read the last line. 6/10 |

Phoenix vajaa
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:20:00 -
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Like is said not all serious. But besides the loyal blind defence of EVE that we all enjoy inflicting on nay sayers. No one else thinks we are getting surprisingly little content for how much money ccp seems to make. |

Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:21:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:lNot being funny but have you seen the level of content they are putting out over there for half the money? I love EVE but lets be honest some of it is as old as the players who play it. AND IT'S BARREN! the universe as in the space it'self is SOOOOOO empty and devoid of anything happening. Also we are stuck on a single core limitation still. Are you guys at CCP re-writing the base code to solve this? is that where the moneys gone? If so then fantastic. Or do iceland dev's just work half the time other game dev's do? Seriously. What? You though CCP was gonna hand you the content all warm and steamy on a silver plate? Go find it. Can't find it? Make it. I'm sure you can find someone to **** of and generate the other half for you.
And since when is SC so much better than eve? Spending half as much as CCP and still not fully developed. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:22:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:Like is said not all serious. But besides the loyal blind defence of EVE that we all enjoy inflicting on nay sayers. No one else thinks we are getting surprisingly little content for how much money ccp seems to make.
CCP don't make content they make the tools. We make the content. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:23:00 -
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SC doesn't actually exist yet. It's also woefully over funded because people have gotten themselves trapped in a sunk cost fallacy.
For example; I'm sure that not even CCP would need 2 million to make a novelty pixel bonsai tree. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:23:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:No one else thinks we are getting surprisingly little content for how much money ccp seems to make. No. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Phoenix vajaa
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:27:00 -
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ok then. Well I think eve need more content. kinda bored of the boring old universe of stations, few moons with pos, gate's and wh's etc. I WANT SOME ENVIRONMENTS THAT EFFECT THE WAY WE PLAY. . |

Gallowmere Rorschach
Enlightened Industries Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:27:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote: No one else thinks we are getting surprisingly little content for how much money ccp seems to make.
If you aren't getting content, you may need to reach for the undock button. If that doesn't help, check the number in the upper left corner of your screen. Of you see a 0.5 or higher, that may be your problem. If that's not the case, I recommend trying to find another player, and then shooting at it. If that doesn't help, then the problem isn't with the game. |
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Themanfromdalmontee
EVE RADIO ARMY
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:31:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:Simple question and reason for it. EVE has a estimated market share of $93 million. (per year I am assuming) Star CItizen is approaching $46million funding.
Not being funny but have you seen the level of content they are putting out over there for half the money? I love EVE but lets be honest some of it is as old as the players who play it. AND IT'S BARREN! the universe as in the space it'self is SOOOOOO empty and devoid of anything happening. Also we are stuck on a single core limitation still. Are you guys at CCP re-writing the base code to solve this? is that where the moneys gone? If so then fantastic. Or do iceland dev's just work half the time other game dev's do? Seriously.
Once again. LOVE EVE but why is there so little of it for 10 years of development.? Maybe we should have a new region set up where you can only lock 1 ship at a time. call it the newbs and bitter vets region where you can go play solo and be happy and then you can say EVE has a friendly zone so new players take interest and then ccp can be like "hey its fun to come to eve why not take part in our stretch goals" Or something.
Yea part of this post is serious, rest not so much.
Oh dear, not this again.
Why do people not understand how things work. Its simple and logical. Stuff like servers etc cost money. So playing this wonderful game costs CCP money. Also you know, staff costs, building costs, taxes etc etc.
Star Citizen is not a game yet. Its still a concept. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:31:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:ok then. Well I think eve need more content. kinda bored of the boring old universe of stations, few moons with pos, gate's and wh's etc. So go out and create some.
Quote:I WANT SOME ENVIRONMENTS THAT EFFECT THE WAY WE PLAY. . W-Space. Or the new industry mechanisms. Or just the meta game. There's plenty of what you want already.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Arcelian
Metentis
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:31:00 -
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It's easy to compare EVE to a game that's not even out yet... |

Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:32:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:Like is said not all serious. But besides the loyal blind defence of EVE that we all enjoy inflicting on nay sayers. No one else thinks we are getting surprisingly little content for how much money ccp seems to make.
I'll try and break it down into short, easy sentences for you:
CCP have been putting a hell of a lot of work into EVE
The majority of that work as been refactoring EVE's codebase one feature at a time.
That part of the work is "invisible" to the players.
The benefit we get from it is that any future development of that feature will be much quicker and easier.
We're already seeing benefits from this. For instance the rework just done on the Industry code will substantially reduce the time it takes for CCP to rework the POS code.
Basically CCP are turning EVE into EVE II one feature at a time
It's a big job
There's plenty still left to do (Structures, Corps & Alliances, Mining, PvE)
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Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:33:00 -
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let's face it;
the people 'making' star citizen are pulling off a scam any eve player would be jealous of. |

Rowells
Unknown Soldiers Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:34:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:ok then. Well I think eve need more content. kinda bored of the boring old universe of stations, few moons with pos, gate's and wh's etc. I WANT SOME ENVIRONMENTS THAT EFFECT THE WAY WE PLAY. . EVE is not some sporting even or moviet you go to to watch all these things happen, all pre-planned in advance. some of the best content is made by some of the most carefully laid out plans and/or derpiest mistakes.
I don't think content means what you think it means |

Phoenix vajaa
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:35:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:let's face it;
the people 'making' star citizen are pulling off a scam any eve player would be jealous of.
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Phoenix vajaa
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:36:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Phoenix vajaa wrote:ok then. Well I think eve need more content. kinda bored of the boring old universe of stations, few moons with pos, gate's and wh's etc. So go out and create some. Quote:I WANT SOME ENVIRONMENTS THAT EFFECT THE WAY WE PLAY. . W-Space. Or the new industry mechanisms. Or just the meta game. There's plenty of what you want already.
go do that for 10 years then come back to me! |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:37:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:go do that for 10 years then come back to me! Yes, do that. You have one year to go.
Dave Stark wrote:let's face it;
the people 'making' star citizen are pulling off a scam any eve player would be jealous of. GǪand as Confederate Express demonstrates, the Kickstarter gaming section has actual psychopaths involved that would put the supposed EVE contingent to shame.  GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Phoenix vajaa
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:39:00 -
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ok I will come back in a year. but if i am still bored I demand some huge ass asteroid belts that we have fleet fights in and have to actually pilot around and maybe some nebulae that limit lock range that randomly float through systems.
Also and audit of where CCP spends it's money. I have doubt's strong doub't.! |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:42:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:ok I will come back in a year. but if i am still bored I demand some huge ass asteroid belts that we have fleet fights in and have to actually pilot around and maybe some nebulae that limit lock range that randomly float through systems. So it's really mainly your fault for not going out and creating or just finding those things right now, as predicted. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:51:00 -
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I honestly think the devs have a paddling pool in the office somewhere full of cash that they role around in whenever someone slaggs them off on the forums.
I'm ok with this. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:53:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:...I demand...
can i get a side of forum post to go with that entitlement. |

Phoenix vajaa
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Posted - 2014.07.26 12:56:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Phoenix vajaa wrote:ok I will come back in a year. but if i am still bored I demand some huge ass asteroid belts that we have fleet fights in and have to actually pilot around and maybe some nebulae that limit lock range that randomly float through systems. So it's really mainly your fault for not going out and creating or just finding those things right now, as predicted.
err keep buying the crap sandbox line from ccp as much as you want. Yea great i can go pvp in a fleet every night for 9 years. and some 1 could escalate it or we could do a hero RR tank vs twice the numbers. But it's always the same variables. Yes it's great we can all go "MAKE EVENT'S" but thats like saying you can host a tea party in the desert. Sure EVERY ONE could come. And sure it COULD be great and we all make it amazing by having lulz.
BUT would that same scenario not be better in a Desert where there was a Theme park.
Or another better example paintballing. Lets go paintballing at a indoor warehouse thats empty. Has a door each end and a big circle in the middle of walls 6ft high. only One team is allowed in. (simiualtes station or pos) Then maybe 4 -7 tiny little walls around.
Great fun for the first 10 or so times you go. OR if you do it once a year. BUT Boring after the first 10 times you go in a month. Now imagine if the walls moved and random smoke generation happened and from time to time a third party strolled onto the scene shooting everyone using it's advanced wormhole AI OR if parts of the floor moved up and down.
my point. The sandbox is dull as **** if its just sand. Hence why we grow out of them as kids and start playing paintball. |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
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Posted - 2014.07.26 13:08:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:err keep buying the crap sandbox line from ccp as much as you want. Thank you, I will, because it's not so much a GÇ£crap lineGÇ¥ as an GÇ£accurate description of the game and of a game I wantGÇ¥.
Quote:BUT would that same scenario not be better in a Desert where there was a Theme park. No, because the park rentacops would start bludgeoning you the instant you went off the script of the event you're taking part of. Or if you littered. Or hadn't brought enough tokens for the ride.
Quote:Or another better example paintballing. Lets go paintballing at a indoor warehouse thats empty. Has a door each end and a big circle in the middle of walls 6ft high. only One team is allowed in. (simiualtes station or pos) Then maybe 4 -7 tiny little walls around. How is an example that has nothing in common with EVE GÇ£betterGÇ¥?
Quote:The sandbox is dull as **** if its just sand. So pick up a spade and bucket. There are tons of them lying around. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skillplan 2.2. |

Sato Page
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.07.26 13:08:00 -
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Yes many mechanics in EvE online are broken, but star citizen is basically a vaporscamware. You monthly sub give you access to chat rooms, all the forum drama and the spaceship mini game. What do you get for giving money to SC's nth "stretch goals"? Dinsdale Pirannha for CEO of CCP |

Phoenix vajaa
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Posted - 2014.07.26 13:14:00 -
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Tippia. I am soooo curious as what it is you are currently loving about eve's universe. how often you play. where you play. But more so what was the last thing that really made you go FFS CCP it's been x number of years get it sorted. |

Hicksimus
Hyperion Corporation
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Posted - 2014.07.26 13:20:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:Tippia. I am soooo curious as what it is you are currently loving about eve's universe. how often you play. where you play. But more so what was the last thing that really made you go FFS CCP it's been x number of years get it sorted.
Listen, at least CCP focuses on the important things. They stopped deleting boot.ini without specifying an appropriate path, that HAS to be worth something. How about the fact that I'm not posting this as a member of CCP, aren't you glad that they fixed the forums so that I can't? How about that time prefer safest actually routed through shortest and all those freighters died? They fixed that too. Don't hate CCP they're just busy fixing **** they broke in the first place. Do you have it? |

Nalelmir Ahashion
Omegon 42nd Core
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Posted - 2014.07.26 13:22:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:let's face it;
the people 'making' star citizen are pulling off a scam any eve player would be jealous of.
QFT "What's worse than a foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother? A foul-mouthed eight-year-old constantly claiming he's had relations with your mother who thinks he's a gangser, that's what." --áAaron Birch |

Phoenix vajaa
InternetSpaceShips
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Posted - 2014.07.26 13:29:00 -
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Hicksimus wrote:Phoenix vajaa wrote:Tippia. I am soooo curious as what it is you are currently loving about eve's universe. how often you play. where you play. But more so what was the last thing that really made you go FFS CCP it's been x number of years get it sorted. Listen, at least CCP focuses on the important things. They stopped deleting boot.ini without specifying an appropriate path, that HAS to be worth something. How about the fact that I'm not posting this as a member of CCP, aren't you glad that they fixed the forums so that I can't? How about that time prefer safest actually routed through shortest and all those freighters died? They fixed that too. Don't hate CCP they're just busy fixing **** they broke in the first place.
This is once again kind of the thing that annoys me. They add all these shiny spades to the sandbox that you can build all these deeply flawed sand castles with that in no way create terrible gameplay. But the actual sandbox is the same as it was. SANDBOXES ARE NOT GREAT THINGS when they are not added to or altered. They are just the same damn box year on year you do slightly different versions of the same stuff in. What is awesome is when the sandbox gets extended with a paddling pool or a water slide or a climbing wall
Then you can do all those fun sandbox things and take your bucket fill it with water and go dump it on some one else's sandcastle they built before the paddling pool was put in. also zombie army men that rise from the depths of the sandbox to kick you out of their natural habitat and crap over the sandcastle you built in their sandbox. (IE why do npc still allow people to rat their ships then dock up in their stations or put pos up in their systems) |
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Dave stark
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Posted - 2014.07.26 13:36:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote: What is awesome is when the sandbox gets extended with a paddling pool or a water slide or a climbing wall if you whined less, you'd have more time to build those things. |

Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.26 13:36:00 -
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Since you clearly don't like EVE, why are you here? |

Skeln Thargensen
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.26 13:42:00 -
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it was called world of darkness. forums. -áserious business. |

Phoenix vajaa
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Posted - 2014.07.26 13:48:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:Phoenix vajaa wrote: What is awesome is when the sandbox gets extended with a paddling pool or a water slide or a climbing wall if you whined less, you'd have more time to build those things.
You don't build those things in a sandbox. You hire outside professionals to build them. Well good ones any way. Even DIY ones you don't build in the sandbox. You build them around the sandbox. Do you know nothing about children's playgrounds?  |

Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.07.26 13:52:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Phoenix vajaa wrote: What is awesome is when the sandbox gets extended with a paddling pool or a water slide or a climbing wall if you whined less, you'd have more time to build those things. You don't build those things in a sandbox. You hire outside professionals to build them. Well good ones any way. Even DIY ones you don't build in the sandbox. You build them around the sandbox. Do you know nothing about children's playgrounds? 
why would you hire some one to play the game for you?
seems dumb to me... |

Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
767
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Posted - 2014.07.26 14:03:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:Dave Stark wrote:Phoenix vajaa wrote: What is awesome is when the sandbox gets extended with a paddling pool or a water slide or a climbing wall if you whined less, you'd have more time to build those things. You don't build those things in a sandbox. You hire outside professionals to build them. Well good ones any way. Even DIY ones you don't build in the sandbox. You build them around the sandbox. Do you know nothing about children's playgrounds? 
Ah, so you want a themepark instead of a sandbox, so you dont need to make sandcastles, have someone build them for you, then you can run around inside them? Fluffy Bunny Pic! |

Derrick Miles
EVENumbers
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Posted - 2014.07.26 14:04:00 -
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I was a Star Citizen Kickstarter backer over a year and a half ago. So far I've gotten to look at a model of my spaceship and about 100 emails advertising more spaceships I can buy.
Eve Online is not only a successful MMO, it is one of the longest lasting, with developers that set a standard for the way developers should interact with their communities. There have been constant content releases and updates, so much so that I hardly recognize parts of the game from a decade ago. The sandbox theme is unorthodox for an MMO but still something that many games have tried to imitate and that future titles are trying to imitate. It's not for everyone, evidently you are one of those, but many find it enjoyable and Eve has never pretended to be anything but what it started out as. |

Antihrist Pripravnik
T-AFK and counting
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Posted - 2014.07.26 14:06:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:
CCP where you spending your moneys?
Here you go:
CCP Games Consolidated Financial Statements for 2013
Have fun  o.0 |

Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2014.07.26 14:18:00 -
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CCP spent a lot of money on various successful ventures:
DUST and World of Darkness
Nowadays, development of Valkyrie and Legion are funded by EVE Online income. |

Arkady Romanov
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
392
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Posted - 2014.07.26 14:26:00 -
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Arec Bardwin wrote:CCP spent a lot of money on various successful ventures:
DUST and World of Darkness
Nowadays, development of Valkyrie and Legion are funded by EVE Online income.
DUST and WoD were not successful. That is why the first one will quietly be dropped as soon as possible, and the second has already been canned.
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Arec Bardwin
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Posted - 2014.07.26 14:31:00 -
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I'm sorry, I thought the sarcasm would be obvious, post edited to reflect this. |

Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
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Posted - 2014.07.26 14:49:00 -
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learn to sandbox, if you find eve boring that's probably a reflection of your being a boring, unimaginative edjit. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything |

Jango Cane
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2014.07.27 20:02:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote: the universe as in the space it'self is SOOOOOO empty and devoid of anything happening. .
Space by its very definition is empty, if it isn't empty it isn't space.
Also its a sand box, player interaction is meant to be happening make--- make things happen its easy. |

Sibyyl
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.27 20:07:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:Not being funny but have you seen the level of content they are putting out over there for half the money? Did you have any actual examples of this?
Or did you mean this to be your example?
Quote:Star CItizen is approaching $46million funding. .. when everything else is gone .. |

xpl0de
Dissident Aggressors Mordus Angels
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Posted - 2014.07.27 20:40:00 -
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I'm going to laugh when SC releases (if ever) and people realize they invested in a load of a crapware. The EvE community and its bond with CCP is something most developers can only dream of. |

Lister Dax
The Scope Gallente Federation
5
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Posted - 2014.07.27 20:43:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote: Also we are stuck on a single core limitation still.
Wrong. Only part of the code runs single thread....
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Ramona McCandless
The McCandless Clan
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Posted - 2014.07.27 20:44:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote: I have doubt's strong doub't.!
Flibablob blib blob bleeb to you too, moron "Many have joined the battle, many have survived the tests and trials, but countless have fallen because they weren't the sharpest, the fastest thinking, the most devious, the most ruthless or most intelligent. -áLog in and Compete!"-á- CCP Falcon
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
19838
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Posted - 2014.07.27 20:53:00 -
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Ramona McCandless wrote:Flibablob blib blob bleeb If you really love me, you'll swallow that 
Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine and into the brain, where they ferment. They then migrate to your keyboard via your fingers. That's where shiptoasts come from.
Nil mortifi sine lucre. |

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1044
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Posted - 2014.07.27 20:56:00 -
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Another SC fanboy thread... The form has quite a few already |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2474
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Posted - 2014.07.27 21:00:00 -
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I have actually taken the time to read up on SC.
So much shiny bling, so little actual playable content.
Give us yer dosh, and sometime in never never land, we will provide a game.
I think Erotica 1 is running the whole thing as a brilliant scam. This is not a signature. |
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IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1044
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Posted - 2014.07.27 21:02:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I have actually taken the time to read up on SC.
So much shiny bling, so little actual playable content.
Give us yer dosh, and sometime in never never land, we will provide a game.
I think Erotica 1 is running the whole thing as a brilliant scam. He has to do something to make money  |

Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
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Posted - 2014.07.27 21:05:00 -
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IIshira wrote:Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I have actually taken the time to read up on SC.
So much shiny bling, so little actual playable content.
Give us yer dosh, and sometime in never never land, we will provide a game.
I think Erotica 1 is running the whole thing as a brilliant scam. He has to do something to make money  I'd have thought the licensing fees from the mayo manufacturers would have set him up for life  Never hold your farts in. They travel up your spine and into the brain, where they ferment. They then migrate to your keyboard via your fingers. That's where shiptoasts come from.
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Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
2474
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Posted - 2014.07.27 21:10:00 -
[53] - Quote
xpl0de wrote:I'm going to laugh when SC releases (if ever) and people realize they invested in a load of a crapware. The EvE community and its bond with CCP is something most developers can only dream of.
Good point.
I am sure we all get mad at CCP sometimes, I for example, am tempted to join whatever it is I need to join to bombard Iceland from space if they keep 'tweaking' drones, but I consider myself to be a loyal fan of the company, the game and the staff who give so much of their time to interact with us, the players. This is not a signature. |

Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
654
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Posted - 2014.07.27 21:21:00 -
[54] - Quote
Wait, am I missing out on another SC fanboi thread?
Because uhh... I kickstarted SC too, so I can confirm that the whole project is nothing but a shitebasket of incompetence and customer buggery.
I've never seen a game go from a reasonable proposal from an indy studio to full-on megaconglomerate Nazism is such a short period of time, and abuse their customers so blatantly and without shame for exorbitant amounts of money in exchange for digital items.
Not even online casinos try this crap.
If the video game industry were a playground and EA was the big bully, RSI was the quiet kid who buried the bully behind the groundskeepers shed without anyone noticing the violent dismemberment or spine-chilling screams, and then took over his turf with a mafia-quality blackmail tactics, inflation and protection rackets.
And it's not the fact that they're doing it that really bothers me. It's seeing how many people willingly dole out more and more money for a non-existent game while trying to control their rampant and painful priapism brought on by the careful marketing and propaganda, which is easily fact-checked and proven false on a regular basis. Just the idea that people aren't screaming "WHOA WHOA JE*** HOLY **** MAN! SLOW DOWN AND PLEASE TAKE YOUR FINGERS OUT OF BOTH MY WALLET AND MY SPHINCTER!" at every turn.
I really wish I was that smart. If I knew how, or had the willpower to strip myself of my humanity, to shear sheep like RSI I'd own a pacific island for every day of the week by now. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Pheusia
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
131
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Posted - 2014.07.27 21:51:00 -
[55] - Quote
Oh look, "Sandbox means I should get whatever I want" Thread #85,062 |

Chewytowel Haklar
Sextans Tech Brothers of Tangra
64
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Posted - 2014.07.27 22:12:00 -
[56] - Quote
Building other games I think is where it is going, as well as paying the current staff of EVE Online as well obviously. |

J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
4206
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Posted - 2014.07.27 22:17:00 -
[57] - Quote
OP, so much entitlement isn't good for you. It might be wise to just biomass yourself and dump your money in SC...uhm...I mean vaporware.
P.s.
If you think that all money goes to EVE Online, you seriously need to learn how business work and what extra costs come around when you run one Personal channel: Crazy Dutch Guy
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Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
657
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Posted - 2014.07.27 22:26:00 -
[58] - Quote
Dust.
Legion.
Valkyrie.
That one thingy with the vampires and the facepaint and really bright lipstick that doesn't matter anymore.
Companies invest in developing products, when the products they produce are prone to expire or be overshadowed by competition. Vidjya games are subject to both.
Can openers, however, are not. So ask China for an expansion to your can opener. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Wu Jiaqiu
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
186
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Posted - 2014.07.27 22:48:00 -
[59] - Quote
https://www.ccpgames.com/media/47894/ccp_hf_financial_statements_december_31_2013.pdf
If you work in accounting or finance, you should have an easier time reading this. |

flakeys
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
2355
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Posted - 2014.07.27 22:54:00 -
[60] - Quote
Ow ffs are we comparing a game wich has breathed life for 10 years AGAIN with something wich untill it is out is VAPORWARE .
At a certain point it even get's beyond moronic ....
We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
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Sentamon
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
1985
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Posted - 2014.07.27 22:55:00 -
[61] - Quote
Star Citizen, the future flop mostly likely to kill Kickstarter. ~ Professional Forum Alt -á~ |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Triumvirate.
5541
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Posted - 2014.07.27 22:59:00 -
[62] - Quote
Star Citizen, the new and improved dotcom bubble. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
658
|
Posted - 2014.07.27 23:01:00 -
[63] - Quote
Sentamon wrote:Star Citizen, the future flop mostly likely to kill Kickstarter.
95% of their funding was raised without Kickstarter so I think they can shrug off the blame for this one.
People continued to wheelbarrow their cash over the edge of the cliff long after all of the billboards and hucksters left the stage and the lights were turned off. They've no one to point a finger at but themselves. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
2636
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Posted - 2014.07.27 23:12:00 -
[64] - Quote
Dave Stark wrote:let's face it;
the people 'making' star citizen are pulling off a scam any eve player would be jealous of.
This, star citizen is not real its a scam all of you that spent kickstarter money on it got scammed. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. Proof Highsec reward needs to be nerfed: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AqC-BTui2uSGdDlxa2dWOG5ieHB0QXBVWW82bGN5TFE&usp=sharing |

Wacktopia
Noir. Noir. Mercenary Group
668
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Posted - 2014.07.27 23:15:00 -
[65] - Quote
Phoenix vajaa wrote: Star CItizen is approaching $46million funding.
Oh yes, the game you can pay a $10/$20 a month "subscription" for that you cannot actually play but you get some kind of "perk".  Kitchen sink? Seriousy, get your ship together - -áFleet-Up.com |

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1048
|
Posted - 2014.07.27 23:20:00 -
[66] - Quote
Wacktopia wrote:Phoenix vajaa wrote: Star CItizen is approaching $46million funding.
Oh yes, the game you can pay a $10/$20 a month "subscription" for that you cannot actually play but you get some kind of "perk".  I've been hearing about this game but never looked into it... Wait you can't actually play the game? I thought it was some kind of playable beta. |

Marsha Mallow
1362
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Posted - 2014.07.27 23:21:00 -
[67] - Quote
Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I consider myself to be a loyal fan of the company, the game and the staff who give so much of their time to interact with us, the players. That's a sentiment people might want to consider announcing every now and then.
The squealers can quit, and good riddance. I'm sure every upcoming game needs it's share of hysterical flouncers. Those of us who chose to stay and bellyache deserve a bit more than being labelled 'bittervets'. Occasionally we make helpful remarks.
@ OP, it's a private company and they don't need to tell us what they spend their money on. Although the FinStats do paint a picture. We're stakeholders rather than shareholders, or to put it more plainly, customers rather than owners. CCP might have overextended themselves a few years back, but they are clearly amending that now. I'm quite impressed they funded EvE via a board game and built it into the success it is, rather than taking millions from a kickstarter in an overhyped venture. I hope SC falls flat on it's face and bounces down every step on the way after the attitude of some of it's promoters here. DON'T BE RIDICULOUS! |

Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1484
|
Posted - 2014.07.27 23:29:00 -
[68] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Quote:Or another better example paintballing. Lets go paintballing at a indoor warehouse thats empty. Has a door each end and a big circle in the middle of walls 6ft high. only One team is allowed in. (simiualtes station or pos) Then maybe 4 -7 tiny little walls around. How is an example that has nothing in common with EVE GÇ£betterGÇ¥? Quote:The sandbox is dull as **** if its just sand. So pick up a spade and bucket. There are tons of them lying around. To argue, most of the spade's and buckets are being held ransom by Mittens and N3 while they yell at us that the game mechanics arent giving out enough spade's and buckets and that we should be mad at CCP for not putting more in. Instead of you know, letting everyone have some shovels and buckets to have fun. Because apparently you HAVE to hold half the game and kill off anyone who wants to grow large enough to someday challenge you, and apparently its not their fault if they do that, its CCP's.
now sure, we can go play in the other sandbox's, but when every other sandbox has a big sign planted in the center telling us the first sandbox is better and more fun, the whole thing becomes somewhat dull.
hough this entire post i suppose just argues one line you made without actually supporting the OP with anything relevant at all. Oh well. |

Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1484
|
Posted - 2014.07.27 23:32:00 -
[69] - Quote
Antihrist Pripravnik wrote: I wish CCP put pretty graphs in their Financial reports, would look so much better. Because EVE loves pretty graphs, CCP should too. |

Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1484
|
Posted - 2014.07.27 23:35:00 -
[70] - Quote
Bohneik Itohn wrote:Wait, am I missing out on another SC fanboi thread?
Edit: Looks like I'm not but I'm going to vomit all over the place anyways.
Because uhh... I kickstarted SC too, so I can confirm that the whole project is nothing but a shitebasket of incompetence and customer buggery.
I've never seen a game go from a reasonable proposal from an indy studio to full-on megaconglomerate Nazism is such a short period of time, and abuse their customers so blatantly and without shame for exorbitant amounts of money in exchange for digital items.
Not even online casinos try this crap.
If the video game industry were a playground and EA was the big bully, RSI was the quiet kid who buried the bully behind the groundskeepers shed without anyone noticing the violent dismemberment or spine-chilling screams, and then took over his turf with mafia-quality blackmail tactics, inflation and protection rackets.
And it's not the fact that they're doing it that really bothers me. It's seeing how many people willingly dole out more and more money for a non-existent game while trying to control their rampant and painful priapism brought on by the careful marketing and propaganda, which is easily fact-checked and proven false on a regular basis. Just the idea that people aren't screaming "WHOA WHOA JE*** HOLY **** MAN! SLOW DOWN AND PLEASE TAKE YOUR FINGERS OUT OF BOTH MY WALLET AND MY SPHINCTER!" at every turn is horrifying.
I really wish I was that smart. If I knew how, or had the willpower to strip myself of my humanity, to shear sheep like RSI I'd own a pacific island for every day of the week by now. As much as i hate the star citizen guys, Am i bad that I think the quiet kid in your analogy sounds like a badass? I mean shite. Kid knows how to get ahead in the industry XD |
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Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
658
|
Posted - 2014.07.27 23:46:00 -
[71] - Quote
IIshira wrote:Wacktopia wrote:Phoenix vajaa wrote: Star CItizen is approaching $46million funding.
Oh yes, the game you can pay a $10/$20 a month "subscription" for that you cannot actually play but you get some kind of "perk".  I've been hearing about this game but never looked into it... Wait you can't actually play the game? I thought it was some kind of playable beta.
There is a "combat module" which lets you fly your buggy half-finished ships in a single environment with Battlefield style "You're leaving the combat area" invisible walls during single player or in multiplayer you can watch other people's ships spin by you in an uncontrollable death spiral as you manically exchange wild shots that don't come anywhere near each other's targets, because you're likely performing a 720 no-scope on their screen every half a second also.
They decided they didn't know how to develop an MMO so they brought in another development team, Behaviour Interactive, who are well known for their shovelware, their shovelware, and their gratuitously shoveled shovelware that barely passes as functioning software, let alone games that can be played.
BI's claim to MMO fame is the project Warhammer 40000: Eternal Crusade. which was announced a whole year after Star Citizen's Kickstarter, and has yet to be released. But don't worry, pre-order now and you can play the "combat module!" All you have to do is purchase a founder's pack and pick which race(s) you want, because they have been neatly sectioned off into easily purchased divestments that you are welcome to acquire at your convenience.
Noticing a theme yet?
Oh, and I'd like to apologize to all of the Warhammer fans out there. I understand how hard it is to watch Games Workshop wh*re out the license to every Tongue, **** and Hairy that comes by waving a banker's cheque.
I'm just glad I paid the minimum for a copy of the game during the kickstarter and nothing more. It's been worth it just to watch the gestation of this monster, but I knew my money was wasted long ago. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
2283
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Posted - 2014.07.27 23:51:00 -
[72] - Quote
Phoenix vajaa wrote:Also and audit of where CCP spends it's money. I have doubt's strong doub't.! Can we also do an audit of where you spend your money?
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
. -á<- Argue this, not this ->-á( -í-¦ -£-û -í-¦) |

Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
658
|
Posted - 2014.07.27 23:59:00 -
[73] - Quote
Wu Jiaqiu wrote:https://www.ccpgames.com/media/47894/ccp_hf_financial_statements_december_31_2013.pdf
If you work in accounting or finance, you should have an easier time reading this. This is where CCP is spending their money. R&D increased a little over three fold in 2013 from 2012, and if you compare how much they are spending on development further back in 08-10 you'll notice they are really increasing their spending. That should suggest CCP is working on something big at a glance.
Could someone please take a look at article 16.1, subject "Changes in share capital", focusing on the column "Total number of Shares*" with the footnote "*Each share is 1 ISK" and calmly explain to me what that means?...
Nnnngh....
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Yang Aurilen
The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc
280
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Posted - 2014.07.28 00:08:00 -
[74] - Quote
Nariya Kentaya wrote:Tippia wrote:Quote:Or another better example paintballing. Lets go paintballing at a indoor warehouse thats empty. Has a door each end and a big circle in the middle of walls 6ft high. only One team is allowed in. (simiualtes station or pos) Then maybe 4 -7 tiny little walls around. How is an example that has nothing in common with EVE GÇ£betterGÇ¥? Quote:The sandbox is dull as **** if its just sand. So pick up a spade and bucket. There are tons of them lying around. To argue, most of the spade's and buckets are being held ransom by Mittens and N3 while they yell at us that the game mechanics arent giving out enough spade's and buckets and that we should be mad at CCP for not putting more in. Instead of you know, letting everyone have some shovels and buckets to have fun. Because apparently you HAVE to hold half the game and kill off anyone who wants to grow large enough to someday challenge you, and apparently its not their fault if they do that, its CCP's. now sure, we can go play in the other sandbox's, but when every other sandbox has a big sign planted in the center telling us the first sandbox is better and more fun, the whole thing becomes somewhat dull. hough this entire post i suppose just argues one line you made without actually supporting the OP with anything relevant at all. Oh well.
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Exeodus
Nexus Incorporated
1
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Posted - 2014.07.28 00:09:00 -
[75] - Quote
Not sure about you OP but I'm from 2004, and well, I've seen a few changes to the game.
proff |

IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1048
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Posted - 2014.07.28 00:21:00 -
[76] - Quote
Exeodus wrote:Not sure about you OP but I'm from 2004, and well, I've seen a few changes to the game. proff I hate to say it but that looks better than the current Eve. I'm on my phone so maybe that's why lol |

Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1485
|
Posted - 2014.07.28 01:12:00 -
[77] - Quote
Bohneik Itohn wrote:IIshira wrote:Wacktopia wrote:Phoenix vajaa wrote: Star CItizen is approaching $46million funding.
Oh yes, the game you can pay a $10/$20 a month "subscription" for that you cannot actually play but you get some kind of "perk".  I've been hearing about this game but never looked into it... Wait you can't actually play the game? I thought it was some kind of playable beta. There is a "combat module" which lets you fly your buggy half-finished ships in a single environment with Battlefield style "You're leaving the combat area" invisible walls during single player or in multiplayer you can watch other people's ships spin by you in an uncontrollable death spiral as you manically exchange wild shots that don't come anywhere near each other's targets, because you're likely performing a 720 no-scope on their screen every half a second also. They decided they didn't know how to develop an MMO so they brought in another development team, Behaviour Interactive, who are well known for their shovelware, their shovelware, and their gratuitously shoveled shovelware that barely passes as functioning software, let alone games that can be played. BI's claim to MMO fame is the project Warhammer 40000: Eternal Crusade. which was announced a whole year after Star Citizen's Kickstarter, and has yet to be released. But don't worry, pre-order now and you can play the "combat module!" All you have to do is purchase a founder's pack and pick which race(s) you want, because they have been neatly sectioned off into easily purchased divestments that you are welcome to acquire at your convenience. Noticing a theme yet? Oh, and I'd like to apologize to all of the Warhammer fans out there. I understand how hard it is to watch Games Workshop wh*re out the license to every Tongue, **** and Hairy that comes by waving a banker's cheque. I'm just glad I paid the minimum for a copy of the game during the kickstarter and nothing more. It's been worth it just to watch the gestation of this monster, but I knew my money was wasted long ago. 40k will eb **** simply because, games workshop will DEMAND nerfs to every race but space mariens because "the few the proud, the space marines", then at the same time tell BI to turn a blind eye to the fact that 90% of the players were rolling space marines anyways long before everything else was nerfed.
any 40k game thats pvp that isnt a lobby shooter will be a joke simply because there will always be too many goddamn blueberry mary-sues griping that their chainsaw mark 2-billion can kill tree-hundwed and fifty other players solo.
No one to feel sorry for, all the rational 40k fans stopped looking at new games and additions long ago.
*EDIT* actually, looking at BI's history, I did thoroughly enjoy Mercenaries, was a fun little 3rd person shooter. funny, explosive, and a reason to actually replay it every now and then. I only wish BI had put Mercenaries on Steam so i could play it now that my xbox is dead. |

Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1485
|
Posted - 2014.07.28 01:16:00 -
[78] - Quote
Yang Aurilen wrote:Nariya Kentaya wrote:Tippia wrote:Quote:Or another better example paintballing. Lets go paintballing at a indoor warehouse thats empty. Has a door each end and a big circle in the middle of walls 6ft high. only One team is allowed in. (simiualtes station or pos) Then maybe 4 -7 tiny little walls around. How is an example that has nothing in common with EVE GÇ£betterGÇ¥? Quote:The sandbox is dull as **** if its just sand. So pick up a spade and bucket. There are tons of them lying around. To argue, most of the spade's and buckets are being held ransom by Mittens and N3 while they yell at us that the game mechanics arent giving out enough spade's and buckets and that we should be mad at CCP for not putting more in. Instead of you know, letting everyone have some shovels and buckets to have fun. Because apparently you HAVE to hold half the game and kill off anyone who wants to grow large enough to someday challenge you, and apparently its not their fault if they do that, its CCP's. now sure, we can go play in the other sandbox's, but when every other sandbox has a big sign planted in the center telling us the first sandbox is better and more fun, the whole thing becomes somewhat dull. hough this entire post i suppose just argues one line you made without actually supporting the OP with anything relevant at all. Oh well. Can't have a single thread in GD without the complimentary GRR GoonsGäó and Blue DonutGäó? How about adding BUFF HIGHSECGäó in your next post. why would I want to buff highsec, i hate highsec. What i dont like is that there arent even enough unique players in the game to get into null without approval, much less actually fight the off the coalitions. mechanics that encourage the coaltiions to **** off into a bloody rumble would be a buff to nullsec and the little guy. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1026
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Posted - 2014.07.28 01:36:00 -
[79] - Quote
Wacktopia wrote:Phoenix vajaa wrote: Star CItizen is approaching $46million funding.
Oh yes, the game you can pay a $10/$20 a month "subscription" for that you cannot actually play but you get some kind of "perk". 
Forget Star citizen play Firefly the Massively Multiplayer Online Space Cowboy Game. :D |

Herzog Wolfhammer
Sigma Special Tactics Group
5155
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Posted - 2014.07.28 01:58:00 -
[80] - Quote
I'm telling ya, SC and that "be a good space citizen" crap is not going to go down well. Much of the Western civilization is falling to lawlessness at high levels (gov, police, etc.) and everybody is starting to feel like being a goodie two shoes "good citizen" is to be a turbo chump now.
Hence this will reflect, because logging into a game that's all about being or becoming some good citizen is not going to go well. The genre is going to lean towards dystopia and people becoming outlaws to survive in lawless (or failed) states. A game with the theme like SC would have done well in the 1990s, but not now and not in the near future.
Bring back DEEEEP Space! |
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Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
659
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Posted - 2014.07.28 02:13:00 -
[81] - Quote
Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I'm telling ya, SC and that "be a good space citizen" crap is not going to go down well. Much of the Western civilization is falling to lawlessness at high levels (gov, police, etc.) and everybody is starting to feel like being a goodie two shoes "good citizen" is to be a turbo chump now.
Hence this will reflect, because logging into a game that's all about being or becoming some good citizen is not going to go well. The genre is going to lean towards dystopia and people becoming outlaws to survive in lawless (or failed) states. A game with the theme like SC would have done well in the 1990s, but not now and not in the near future.
Check your medication please. I think you missed the green pill with blue stripes. It might have rolled under the couch.
Nariya Kentaya wrote: *EDIT* actually, looking at BI's history, I did thoroughly enjoy Mercenaries, was a fun little 3rd person shooter. funny, explosive, and a reason to actually replay it every now and then. I only wish BI had put Mercenaries on Steam so i could play it now that my xbox is dead.
If I'm not mistaken the only role they had in Mercenaries 2 was porting the game over to one of the platforms, and Pandemic handled everything else.
If you're thinking of the original Mercenaries on the original Xbox, that was 100% Pandemic. Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Bloody Slave
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
132
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Posted - 2014.07.28 02:21:00 -
[82] - Quote
Arec Bardwin wrote:I'm sorry, I thought the sarcasm would be obvious, post edited to reflect this.
Haha, yeah, "sarcasmology" is a dead science nowadays.
That is why I need to use the warnings:
(Sarcasm on)
Incarna was a great expansion with lots of awesome content, mainly the Captain Quarters, that I love to play over and over.
You've bought the oculus rift?
(Sarcasm off)

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John Ending
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
61
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Posted - 2014.07.28 03:05:00 -
[83] - Quote
Tippia wrote:Has SC put out any content? That's newGǪ They got a potted plant in the CQ and a hot dog in your cockpit, suck on that EVE! |

Bohneik Itohn
Universal Freelance CONSORTIUM UNIVERSALIS
661
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Posted - 2014.07.28 03:53:00 -
[84] - Quote
John Ending wrote:Tippia wrote:Has SC put out any content? That's newGǪ They got a potted plant in the CQ and a hot dog machine in your cockpit, suck on that EVE!
Actually it's a goldfish and a towel that you can soil....
No seriously... A goldfish and a towel.... Wait, CCP kills kittens now too?!-á - Freyya
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Nariya Kentaya
Phoenix funds
1485
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Posted - 2014.07.28 05:54:00 -
[85] - Quote
Bohneik Itohn wrote:Herzog Wolfhammer wrote:I'm telling ya, SC and that "be a good space citizen" crap is not going to go down well. Much of the Western civilization is falling to lawlessness at high levels (gov, police, etc.) and everybody is starting to feel like being a goodie two shoes "good citizen" is to be a turbo chump now.
Hence this will reflect, because logging into a game that's all about being or becoming some good citizen is not going to go well. The genre is going to lean towards dystopia and people becoming outlaws to survive in lawless (or failed) states. A game with the theme like SC would have done well in the 1990s, but not now and not in the near future.
Check your medication please. I think you missed the green pill with blue stripes. It might have rolled under the couch. Nariya Kentaya wrote: *EDIT* actually, looking at BI's history, I did thoroughly enjoy Mercenaries, was a fun little 3rd person shooter. funny, explosive, and a reason to actually replay it every now and then. I only wish BI had put Mercenaries on Steam so i could play it now that my xbox is dead.
If I'm not mistaken the only role they had in Mercenaries 2 was porting the game over to one of the platforms, and Pandemic handled everything else. If you're thinking of the original Mercenaries on the original Xbox, that was 100% Pandemic. no, was thinking of merc 2, thought they had a bigger hand in it, since everyone I know back then was whining about them changing devs. either way, i am sad that theres no mercenaries 1/2 on steam (though maybe if they ever actually do Merc Inc like they used to talk about, the games will end up there) |

DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
782
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Posted - 2014.07.28 07:49:00 -
[86] - Quote
Flashes 10 year vet status.
I love that i can do that...
anyway, op: whatever the **** ccp wants to spend money on. Its their money. You willingly forked it over. Don't like eve? then STOP GIVING THEM MONEY. its that simple.
And to add to the avalanche of a chorus, SC is a joke. Seriously, a joke. Why the **** did they need 2 mill in total to 'make a high tech sound studio and tv set for wingmangs hanger..." DID YOU IDIOTS NOT HAVE THAT ALREADY?!?! or 'Hey guys, give us another mill and we will give you a fish!!!" please. In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't. |

Kitty Bear
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Posted - 2014.07.28 07:58:00 -
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On beer, pizza & hookers ???
or is beer old school dev fare these days ....... |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.07.28 07:59:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:Flashes 10 year vet status.
I love that i can do that... You should go an dock up in your vet station and enjoy the spoils....
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DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.07.28 08:01:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:DaReaper wrote:Flashes 10 year vet status.
I love that i can do that... You should go an dock up in your vet station and enjoy the spoils.... 
damn it.. don;t remind me that i cant =( In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't. |

Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
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Posted - 2014.07.28 08:03:00 -
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DaReaper wrote:damn it.. don;t remind me that i cant =( You should start a thread.
Right here in GD. It would be great.
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DaReaper
Net 7 The Last Brigade
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Posted - 2014.07.28 08:05:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:DaReaper wrote:damn it.. don;t remind me that i cant =( You should start a thread. Right here in GD. It would be great.
no because, as i have been here for 10 years i know what the search function is for ;) In a room full of dumb blondes, EvE is the smart red head on the other side of the room.-á Lots of men like dumb blondes, and not everyone will like the smart red head, but she doesn;t need to change to be a dumb blonde.-á She is perfect how she is.-á Thats EvE vs other mmo's.-á You either like the red head, or you don't. |

J'Poll
CDG Playgrounds
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Posted - 2014.07.28 08:17:00 -
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Drop SC.
Go Elite: Dangerous 
Latter one likely will be on the market and playable 10 times faster then SC.
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Phoenix vajaa
InternetSpaceShips
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Posted - 2014.07.29 11:42:00 -
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yea maybe SC was a bad example as there seems to be a lot of hate for that. maybe people who have spend money on it? I still think that for comparing time and money spent on similar content (Captains quarters and SC hanger) the level of work put into and produced in the SC example make's eve's incarana attempt look like a nock off DVD.
But yea i read the financial statement some one linked. Seems I was unaware of how big a f up DUST and WOD had been. Ironically I did predict that. Im intrigued by Valkyrie but concerned it may be to soon in the life of vr for it to ever take off. (Or it maybe the break out hit that defines rift and what ever sony is doing) . This other DUST inspired shooter. I can only say FFS how many times does CCP need be told they have not got the weight or ability to break into the OVERCROWDED shooter market. There product WILL have a shelf life of about 4 months. EVEN if they did a MMOFPS like planetside It's got to compete with planetside. STOP WASTING MONEY OF FPS market CCP. |

Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
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Posted - 2014.07.29 12:24:00 -
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Phoenix vajaa wrote:ok then. Well I think eve need more content. kinda bored of the boring old universe of stations, few moons with pos, gate's and wh's etc. I WANT SOME ENVIRONMENTS THAT EFFECT THE WAY WE PLAY. .
That sounds very much like a personal problem. Personal problems get fixed by the person having the problem, not some outside group like CCP.
I've played this game for a long time (7 years now) and I'm not bored. If you are bored that means you lack the creativity and will to find new ways to entertain yourself. Funny thing is that most people who get bored in a game like EVE are also the same kinds of people who DON'T try new things on their own and expect someone else to fix things for them.
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Captain Soju
State War Academy Caldari State
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Posted - 2014.07.29 14:23:00 -
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SC? You mean the 48M crowd funded twitch based mini sim which may cause the servers to drop when 8 players are in the same instance and may never be released?
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Belt Scout
Thread Lockaholics Anonymous
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Posted - 2014.07.29 15:21:00 -
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Dave Stark wrote:let's face it;
the people 'making' star citizen are pulling off a scam any eve player would be jealous of.
They don't have to release the game at all now that they're rich. Just release a troll video to show "progress".
. They say most of your brain shuts down on the EvE forums. All but the impatient side, and the sarcastic side. No wonder I'm still awake. |
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