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Diivil
Magellanic Itg
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.29 14:38:00 -
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Not big enough nerf to stop everyone from flying Ishtars so essentially nothing changes. Take a drone away from them or do something else that actually matters. |
Diivil
Magellanic Itg
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.30 06:31:00 -
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CCP Rise wrote:
We expect that some of you will feel this is far too gentle on the Ishtar, and we understand that (it's what we heard from the CSM as well), but we get releases very often now and we're happy to be conservative here, rather than nuke it out of the game, and just make more changes if they're needed in the following release.
Someone said this already before but it needs repeating. You say that you are doing this and then there was not a single ship balancing change in Crius. You are not off to a good start. CCP never keeps these kinds of promises anyway and we have a decade long track record to prove it. At least make a meaningful change to Ishtar now because we are sure to be stuck with it at least until January. |
Diivil
Magellanic Itg
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.07.31 10:54:00 -
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afkalt wrote:Need to be very careful with blanket battleship buffs. Whilst almost all are worthless outside of (as stated) high sec/epic fleet battles, there are a couple that would start to become nigh unstoppable with the right combination of buffs in the small arena.
Edit: Something perhaps to consider is making the weapon bonuses cascade down the stack - much like how the rattlesnake has bonuses to all missiles.
So bonus battleships in weapon types, unlimited to sizes. So if people really wanted the worlds fattest destroyer, they could make one.
As stated before most t1 battleships are not in a bad place compared to each other. The problem is that bombers make all shield BS unuseable. And then tidi and firewalling make all the missile ones unuseable at any scale of over 200vs200. You have about a minute to broadcast for reps and if the reps are running before missiles land then you are not dying. On top of this ECM is currently useless due to absolutely massive sensor strength buffs to all ships across the board making the Scorpion unuseable.
So while you can say that t1 BS are not in a bad place compared each other in reality they are in a really bad place because of outside factors. Out of all t1 BS only 3 are actually worth using as the main line ship in large fleet battles: Apoc, Domi and Mega. Armageddon is not bad but it doesn't work as a main line ship. Abaddon is not horrible but generally we see Apocs used over it.
In my opinion t1 BS don't need buffs except in special cases of Scorpion, Hyperion and possibly Tempest. It's that the things that make them bad need to be nerfed: bombs, sensor strengths, super easy firewalling and strength of remote repairs. All these things cause massive problems to many ship classes as well so nerfing them shouldn't be a problem. |
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