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Erotic Irony
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: Erotic Irony on 08/07/2006 11:39:33
CCP needs to get rid of that Gallente line linking them to the French along with any other description that could concretely evince racism or nationalism. After the embarassing 4s verdict and all the "playful" anti-French and anti-Chinese posts on the forums you would think keeping real politics out of the game might be a virtue.
edit: Case in point: Originally by: Sweetlana
Edited by: Sweetlana on 08/07/2006 11:32:28
Gallente are g a y.
Caldari are bankers.
Minmatar are colombian drug dealers.
Amarr are evil priests.
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Omae Gaw'd
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:42:00 -
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amen
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Ryoka
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: Ryoka on 08/07/2006 11:50:50
Originally by: Kuonrada Uotadan
I have spent quite a bit of time in france, and I haven't really met any "real" french people. The people I met were mostly african/arab immigrants or other europeans; It was kind of baffling to be honest :D
My thoughts:
Gallante - Cold War French :D
Caldari - WW2 Japanese/German Mix (Industry, Honor, Technosupremecy and Military Might all mixed into one)
Ammar - Amaaricans :D (Corrupted religous right anyone?)
Minmatar - Gypsies (space gypsies flying around in armored trashcans with engines)
heh, my thoughts exactly!!! 
Though the minmatar seem to more of a mix of oppressed black slaves and the stereotypical mexicans 
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Terraform
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jester87
Amarr, Im not really sure? They are powerful like the U.S.A and religious. But they also like slaves which is sort of Old School European.
Old school european?? if anything slaves are more tied to american history. Get your facts straight stoopy...
Stereotyping is lame as hell!
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madaluap
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jester87
Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Gallente... French... whatever, you obviously dont know what your talking about, since when do te frnech have an economical and military capability equal to that of the worlds leading superpower. The caldari dont really have a real life equivualent, the gallente and caldari are most easily compared as two difference aspects of the American or western culture asit is today, the ammar? Old empires are probobly the best comparrison since thier attitude is somewhat not comparable to any race on earth that i know of.
Yea, no reason to get so hostile either.
Some people love roleplaying 
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La Tortura
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:57:00 -
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well, let's try to look at it from the antropology side.
Gallente are French/Italian/Hyspanic. Mediterranean Europe, that is. Dinaric/Mediterranean races. Ideology, behaviour and apearrance are similar to real life ones, except exessive militarisation in eve.
Caldari are German/Baltic/Russian. Nordic/Ostbalt/Uraloid races. Ideology, behaviour and apearrance are very similar to real life ones. Corporate state, militarisation etc.
Minmatar are those who are known as African-American now, with quite a big helping of Hyspanic, Arabian (Semitic) and other blood. Probably black minority of today's North America/Europe, but hard to say really. By their behaviour and position in eve world they are resemble radical Muslim people and organisations of today.
Amarr are mix of white Americans (Anglo-Sax)/Jewish(Semitic) races. Probably deccendants of today's USA. Amarr greatly resemble their moral values and ethics. Ideology is the right-wing Judaic-Protestantisms in it's extreme. Appearance recembles their real life counterparts as well, not so distinctly as in the case of gallente/caldari tho.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.07.08 12:02:00 -
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If I had to go with a race, I would say Amarr = Post war Japanese. Probably the most imperialist society there has ever been with the Emperor as the ultimate ruler over everyone.
The rest are a mish-mash of several races. Caldari is more the corporate run Western society as a whole UK, America and such. Minmatar are probably the third world countries that the Western countries have always treated as underdogs. Gallente is a kind of mix of East and West Europe.
A quick bit of trivia here:
Minamata is the name of a town in Japan that was poisoned in 1956 by a leak of inorganic methyl mercury from a wood pulping plant into Lake Minamata, a chemical better known as PMT which has since been made illegal. It caused a community of 100 thousand to become diseased and disfigured. They called it Drunken sickness since the toxin affects the brain and causes the victim to become confused and disorientated, it is one of the few toxins that can transcend the placental barrier to cause deformities in the foetus.
Minamata - Minmatar - Coincidence or not?
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Erotic Irony
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Posted - 2006.07.08 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Erotic Irony on 08/07/2006 12:08:00
Not quite related to Japan.
Some, if not much, of the etymology in Eve is Icelandic. I believe Minmatar is something to the effect of 'lesser people.'
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Arcticblue2
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Posted - 2006.07.08 12:33:00 -
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Well to be honest I would say this:
From Babylon 5 universe
Gallente: Centauri
Caldari: Humans
Amarr: Minbari
Minmatar: Narn
Jove: Shadows or Vorlons
Think that sums it up pretty good :-)
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Kaisa Paikkala
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Posted - 2006.07.08 13:35:00 -
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It is far more interesting and accurate to try and see parallels between EvE and real world socio economic models:
Caldari: Authoritarian Capitalism (Singapore,Japan, S. Korea, china)< The future ! IMO 
Gallente: Democratic Captalism(most the the west)
Amarr:The United Arab Emirates, most of the manual labourers have no rights what-so-ever(slavery?), but there is huge development and big business, and a Feudal head of state. Not really fanatical but alot of stuff is faith based, spiral architecture(spirals, the palm properties in Dubai) being ascendancy to god etc.
Mimatarr:Not entirely sure, communistic, hands on technology approach, could be any number of (failed?)nation states post WWII
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.07.08 13:37:00 -
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Caldari = Japan + Scandinavia
Gallente = French
Amarr = Arab + Roman
Minmatar = ? dunno
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Gundog Prime
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Posted - 2006.07.08 13:44:00 -
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Soooooooo.....im Caldari and im Scottish, guess i break the mold 
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Mesacc
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Posted - 2006.07.08 14:01:00 -
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With Eve being set so far in the future, by then our DNA would be so intermixed that were all just Mutts! Theres my 2 isks.
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Lady Fallon
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Posted - 2006.07.08 14:03:00 -
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Caldari government is definatly like here in the US though, its controled by Corperations!
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Jester87
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:00:00 -
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I think its sad that so many people are afraid that this will turn into a flame fest or insult someone. If we can all be civil about it that shouldnt happen - In addition get over your fears about always having to be politically correct.
In additon, I didnt mean just cultures or people of today, I meant throughout history, so if you are AFRAID to mention a modern culture - use ancient ones.
So far, I find this very interesting what people are saying - Amarr like the romans! never considered that. And Caldai like the Scandanavians! what??!
This is very interesting, I'd like to see more peoples opinions.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jester87
I think its sad that so many people are afraid that this will turn into a flame fest or insult someone. If we can all be civil about it that shouldnt happen
I take it you haven't spent much time on the internet 
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Andreask14
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:16:00 -
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Gallente = European
Caldari = EurAsia
Amarr = American
Minamtar = Africans
But hell, it doesnt matter anyway.
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Bryan Durl
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:25:00 -
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why did we have to go for race anyway? what about companys?
Caldari = microsoft
Amarr = Sony
Gallente = Google
Minmatar = Vodaphone
 This is a forum people! keep it lighthearted and funny!
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Originally by: Chode Rizoum
kill or die trying
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Waut
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:26:00 -
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Caldari: German (cold & efficient)
Gallente: French
Minmatar: African
Amarr: American: powerfull, slavedrivers, religious nutters
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DiXXaR
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Gallente... French... whatever, you obviously dont know what your talking about, since when do te frnech have an economical and military capability equal to that of the worlds leading superpower. The caldari dont really have a real life equivualent, the gallente and caldari are most easily compared as two difference aspects of the American or western culture asit is today, the ammar? Old empires are probobly the best comparrison since thier attitude is somewhat not comparable to any race on earth that i know of.
Just dont forget from where your coming from
USA didnt pop in a magical cloud of smoke.
So get some respect please.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Bryan Durl
why did we have to go for race anyway? what about companys?
Caldari = microsoft
Amarr = Sony
Gallente = Google
Minmatar = Fiat
This is a forum people! keep it lighthearted and funny!
Fixed 
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Bryan Durl
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:47:00 -
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Edited by: Bryan Durl on 08/07/2006 16:49:11
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Bryan Durl
why did we have to go for race anyway? what about companys?
Caldari = microsoft
Amarr = Sony
Gallente = Google
Minmatar = Fiat
This is a forum people! keep it lighthearted and funny!
Fixed
Opps double post
Heh at least someone got the joke :) i was actually thinking of having citroen as minmatar :P
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How did i get here?
Originally by: Chode Rizoum
kill or die trying
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Bryan Durl
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Bryan Durl on 08/07/2006 16:48:55
Edited by: Bryan Durl on 08/07/2006 16:48:49
Opps double post!
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How did i get here?
Originally by: Chode Rizoum
kill or die trying
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Gundog Prime
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Posted - 2006.07.08 17:05:00 -
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Caldari = Apple, smooth and sharp tasting
Gallente = Pear, a little warped and generally fruity
Amarr = Lemon, pretty but bitter
Minmatar = Pineapple, cos they just do ok???
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Kisaku
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Posted - 2006.07.08 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Waut
Caldari: German (cold & efficient)
Gallente: French
Minmatar: African
Amarr: American: powerfull, slavedrivers, religious nutters
Now that last line is how you turn this into a flame fest. 
America can be considered a powerful country, but calling us slavedrivers is just dum.  Slavery was something dealt with all over the world. America and Europe. Its existed for centuries in many different countries of past times, it was wrong and its over.
Also note that religion is found in every country, so calling American's relgious nutters is wrong, since probably every country has a good amount of people who practice a religion of some type.
I would personally think that Gallente/caldari make up different facets of "western" society taken to their extremes.
I don't know much about minmatar culture, so I can't give any ideas there. Amarr seem to be built all around a religion that touches every aspect of ammarrian life. Perhaps similar to India and their caste system, or maybe one of the Old, old Arab countries.
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Mtthias Clemi
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Posted - 2006.07.08 18:02:00 -
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Edited by: Mtthias Clemi on 08/07/2006 18:03:22
heh  sorry about that initial hostile attitude, the whole thing is trivial in any case, i just dont like being called french
Although i do uphold that i think that the Caldari and Gallente are both representations of different parts of western society, as others have said.
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Nukeitall
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Posted - 2006.07.08 18:31:00 -
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Some of the opinions expressed here make me want to throw myself onto a metal spike. Seriously.
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Waut
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Posted - 2006.07.08 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kisaku
Originally by: Waut
Caldari: German (cold & efficient)
Gallente: French
Minmatar: African
Amarr: American: powerfull, slavedrivers, religious nutters
Now that last line is how you turn this into a flame fest.
America can be considered a powerful country, but calling us slavedrivers is just dum. Slavery was something dealt with all over the world. America and Europe. Its existed for centuries in many different countries of past times, it was wrong and its over.
I was hoping the OP would see the irony in his post about old school european mkay?
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Adoro
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Posted - 2006.07.08 19:12:00 -
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If I have to post my reply what race I compare with the USA, people would start swearing and I will get banned...so I wont...
Contact me ingame and I'll give you my answer for Iskies!
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2006.07.08 19:25:00 -
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kinda hard one but I will give it a go
Caldari: Axis powers during WW2, stong military, advanced tech, efficent, strong feelings for state, guided by large corprations...(I will let you figure out which comes from which of the axis powers).
Gallente: french but a almgamation of difrent periods of fench history.
Minmatar: African, tribal culture screwed over by larger powers, you could throw in other bits and peices as well...
Amarr: Hmmmmm a combo of both Roman and Indian? Caste based from India and sowing the fields with salt if you have to leave from Roman times...
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