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Jester87
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Posted - 2006.07.08 03:39:00 -
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I'd Say Caldari is most like Asia mixed with some German ish - Maybe like the AXIS of ww2, with superior Technology and a focus on military strength.
Obviously Gallente are French.
Amarr, Im not really sure? They are powerful like the U.S.A and religious. But they also like slaves which is sort of Old School European.
Minmatar I think are alot like some African countries, underdogs but fighting strong for thier freedoms and such.
What do ya'll think?
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Mtthias Clemi
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Posted - 2006.07.08 03:46:00 -
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Gallente... French... whatever, you obviously dont know what your talking about, since when do te frnech have an economical and military capability equal to that of the worlds leading superpower. The caldari dont really have a real life equivualent, the gallente and caldari are most easily compared as two difference aspects of the American or western culture asit is today, the ammar? Old empires are probobly the best comparrison since thier attitude is somewhat not comparable to any race on earth that i know of.
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Ma'lice
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Posted - 2006.07.08 03:47:00 -
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WOW!
 All by yourself?
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Himani Yeshua
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Posted - 2006.07.08 03:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Gallente... French... whatever, you obviously dont know what your talking about, since when do te frnech have an economical and military capability equal to that of the worlds leading superpower. The caldari dont really have a real life equivualent, the gallente and caldari are most easily compared as two difference aspects of the American or western culture asit is today, the ammar? Old empires are probobly the best comparrison since thier attitude is somewhat not comparable to any race on earth that i know of.
You, sir, obviously don't know what you're talking about. Click on the Profile of anyone who is Gallente. You can figure the rest out for yourself.
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Viktor Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.07.08 04:02:00 -
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Caldari are like Japan/USA, highly corperate cultures with access to the latest in tech.
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Jester87
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Posted - 2006.07.08 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Gallente... French... whatever, you obviously dont know what your talking about, since when do te frnech have an economical and military capability equal to that of the worlds leading superpower. The caldari dont really have a real life equivualent, the gallente and caldari are most easily compared as two difference aspects of the American or western culture asit is today, the ammar? Old empires are probobly the best comparrison since thier attitude is somewhat not comparable to any race on earth that i know of.
Yea, no reason to get so hostile either.
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David Ryan
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Posted - 2006.07.08 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: Himani Yeshua
Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Gallente... French... whatever, you obviously dont know what your talking about, since when do te frnech have an economical and military capability equal to that of the worlds leading superpower. The caldari dont really have a real life equivualent, the gallente and caldari are most easily compared as two difference aspects of the American or western culture asit is today, the ammar? Old empires are probobly the best comparrison since thier attitude is somewhat not comparable to any race on earth that i know of.
You, sir, obviously don't know what you're talking about. Click on the Profile of anyone who is Gallente. You can figure the rest out for yourself.
Just because it says they are from that race doesn't mean they are anything like the french in our time period whatsoever. Sir.
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Jane Spondogolo
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Posted - 2006.07.08 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: Jane Spondogolo on 08/07/2006 05:40:11
You know folks, would I be commiting heresy if I suggested that comparing science-fiction "races" to real human "races" (which I'd argue are largely illusary, other than a a bit of pigment or cheek structure or whatnot) is perilous.
Unlike our 'fantasy' races, earth races are kinda real and personal and starting a potential flame war about who is better than who could turn pear shaped quickly. Lets not go there.
edit: damn alt again.
To reiterate, I just dont think saying "black folk dance like this, white folk dance like that" is particularly helpful or true.
All folks have 2 things in common;-
1) Their blood is read
2) You can't hear them scream in space 
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Double TaP
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Posted - 2006.07.08 05:41:00 -
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yes stop this thread right now.
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Shaikar
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Posted - 2006.07.08 06:05:00 -
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Edited by: Shaikar on 08/07/2006 06:07:14
None of the EVE factions really match any given modern nation.
EG1 the Minmatar seem quite stereotypical Viking to me, given their ship names...but then the big group of people the Victorians decided to lump under "Vikings" and stick horns on weren't like any one people in the first place and are nothing historically like the minmatar. Then again I could make just as good comparisions to pretty much any tribally sturctured people you care to name ;)
EG2 The Amarr Empire is quite like the Eastern Roman Empire/early Byzantine Empire in many ways, although the way of choosing the Emperor is more like how the Pope is chosen now (except Cardinals aren't expected to comitt suicide if they fail to become Pope :P ) and the religion style veers off all over the place, ranging from the Inquisition to lot less ... fanatical ... places.
Then again both have a lot in common with the basics of modern life as well, so... /shrug :)
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Varis
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Posted - 2006.07.08 06:11:00 -
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They are not really similar to actual people. but closer to various cultural/historical stereotypes...
Caldari: corporate/zaibatsu
Gallente: socialist democracy
Amarr: "imperial" (Rome, byzantium, etc)
Minmatar: oppressed minority...
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arbitrary
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Posted - 2006.07.08 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Gallente... French... whatever, you obviously dont know what your talking about, since when do te frnech have an economical and military capability equal to that of the worlds leading superpower. The caldari dont really have a real life equivualent, the gallente and caldari are most easily compared as two difference aspects of the American or western culture asit is today, the ammar? Old empires are probobly the best comparrison since thier attitude is somewhat not comparable to any race on earth that i know of.
you might take up your history book good sir.
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But I think indeed real life comparison is out of place, one could argue that the gallente is an RL obscure sect that will in the coming years expand, and by 2341 peak into world domination.
the same goes for ther others - so besides the devs it is all rather moot, besides the obvious reference (but then the minmatar should rather be nordic, not african).
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Ma'lice
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Posted - 2006.07.08 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Spondogolo
Edited by: Jane Spondogolo on 08/07/2006 05:40:11
You know folks, would I be commiting heresy if I suggested that comparing science-fiction "races" to real human "races" (which I'd argue are largely illusary, other than a a bit of pigment or cheek structure or whatnot) is perilous.
Unlike our 'fantasy' races, earth races are kinda real and personal and starting a potential flame war about who is better than who could turn pear shaped quickly. Lets not go there.
edit: damn alt again.
To reiterate, I just dont think saying "black folk dance like this, white folk dance like that" is particularly helpful or true.
All folks have 2 things in common;-
1) Their blood is read
2) You can't hear them scream in space
Now those are the most intelligent words I've read in these forums all night.
But you will take note that th OP name is Jester87.
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Mrs Miyagi
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Posted - 2006.07.08 06:24:00 -
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They are based on a random sample of people that Oveur stumbled into drunk in Rejkjavik McDonalds.
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Novarei
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Posted - 2006.07.08 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Gallente... French... whatever, you obviously dont know what your talking about, since when do te frnech have an economical and military capability equal to that of the worlds leading superpower. The caldari dont really have a real life equivualent, the gallente and caldari are most easily compared as two difference aspects of the American or western culture asit is today, the ammar? Old empires are probobly the best comparrison since thier attitude is somewhat not comparable to any race on earth that i know of.
lol 
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.07.08 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Varis
They are not really similar to actual people. but closer to various cultural/historical stereotypes...
Caldari: corporate/zaibatsu
Gallente: socialist democracy
Amarr: "imperial" (Rome, byzantium, etc)
Minmatar: oppressed minority...
I'd agree with you there. There's more social structure than racial structure in Eve.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.07.08 08:34:00 -
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Comparing things like this is never a good idea because somone will always get ****ed off. On the other hand, I've always thought of the Caldari as being racially (if not culturally) decended from Scandanavians.
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MuffinsRevenger
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Posted - 2006.07.08 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mrs Miyagi
They are based on a random sample of people that Oveur stumbled into drunk in Rejkjavik McDonalds.
Explains so manny things it's scary :o
Originally by: The Wizz117
jeez those guyz @ ccp talk like sweedish nobody will take u seriouse with that cind of accent.
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Bean Doodle
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Posted - 2006.07.08 09:04:00 -
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eeeeee!
controversy
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.07.08 09:07:00 -
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I think you should end the thread right here.
Someones gonna post something really offensive, it always happens so im waiting..
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Gundog Prime
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Posted - 2006.07.08 09:12:00 -
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Why do people always have to draw parallels between fiction and reality?
I like making comments to my Minmatar Corp mates about how they are only good for cleaning my boots, im not racist or believing in Slave trade RL, i just enjoy the GAME!!!!
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Alain Dezor
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Posted - 2006.07.08 09:12:00 -
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Gallente = Canadian 
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Kata Dakini
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Posted - 2006.07.08 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Spondogolo
Edited by: Jane Spondogolo on 08/07/2006 05:40:11
You know folks, would I be commiting heresy if I suggested that comparing science-fiction "races" to real human "races" (which I'd argue are largely illusary, other than a a bit of pigment or cheek structure or whatnot) is perilous.
Unlike our 'fantasy' races, earth races are kinda real and personal and starting a potential flame war about who is better than who could turn pear shaped quickly. Lets not go there.
edit: damn alt again.
To reiterate, I just dont think saying "black folk dance like this, white folk dance like that" is particularly helpful or true.
All folks have 2 things in common;-
1) Their blood is read
2) You can't hear them scream in space
Personally, this post was the most offensive to me. A spade is a spade, and the truth is not the most gentle. If someone gets offended because they were compared to a fictional race of people then they need to grow up. If you're a man, you shouldn't have to squat to pee.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.07.08 09:24:00 -
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Well, I won't go into Amarr or Minmatar, since that's kind of difficult to do without offending or confusing.
Caldari, however, are most deffinatly feudal Japan inspired, with removal of the roles of Shogun (it was rare that there was a strong Shogun in either case) and Emperor (whom often played a symbolic or tactical role rather than being an actual political power) Caldari are lead by what can be compared to Daimyos (representing the heads of the Caldari corporations) and samurai (high ranking Caldari officials and officers).
Very hierachial society, and very keen on discipline. "Do whatever your superior wishes you to do"
Gallente being called french all the time is not as much wrong as not the whole truth. They are "ancestors of Alpha Centauri french", which is not to say they are anything like "Bordeaux french". What that means is that France colonized space, they were most likely the first to send a mayor colony convoy to Alpha Centauri (already here we are far in the future, and france might have changed drastically). After this, EVE gate opened and it was from these colonies that the surviving Gallenteans originated.
In sociological build they resemble most modern western republics, which means Gallente are "American" or "French" or "English" or even "German". What you have to do to all of those above is to remove the multiple party elections that you get in Europe and reduce it to the binary elections that you have in USA. At the same time, Gallentean foreign policy resembles the European Union's combined/avarage foreign policy to a much greater extent than the american foreign policy. This includes aiding the less fortunate allies (Minmatar) as well as adopting a minimal military agressiveness.
All in all, I am saying that you cannot bind Gallenteans to just France. Gallente are of the same the sociological and ideological structure as most of us playing. I find it especially amusing when english people call Gallenteans snail-eating surrender monkeys in a disdainful voice.
Gallente are a free society, kept together by laws. "Do whatever you want, but don't do this"
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Edhel
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Posted - 2006.07.08 10:22:00 -
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All the races represent an icelandic political faction.
Gallente - leftside nature freaks (V. Grµnir)
Caldari - !Right! inclined corporatism (X-D)
Amarr - The Church, possibly even a faction in or off the church like ("THE CROSS")
Minmatar - The Union (AS-)
on a more serious note... has anyone of you ever met a french person?
they're nothing like the Gallente, whilst being quite annoying.. not even close to a real french person.
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Travis050
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:04:00 -
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Amarr are probably the looooong dead ottoman empire...
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Kuonrada Uotadan
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:09:00 -
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I have spent quite a bit of time in france, and I haven't really met any "real" french people. The people I met were mostly african/arab immigrants or other europeans; It was kind of baffling to be honest :D
My thoughts:
Gallante - Cold War French :D
Caldari - WW2 Japanese/German Mix (Industry, Honor, Technosupremecy and Military Might all mixed into one)
Ammar - Amaaricans :D (Corrupted religous right anyone?)
Minmatar - Gypsies (space gypsies flying around in armored trashcans with engines)
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Chester McFester
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:13:00 -
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I think the Caldari are like Microsoft.
They were a corporation that got too big and starting fighting the gallente...
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Foxyoneill
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:17:00 -
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If the Gallente are French, then why does the Megathron look like a Volvo? HMHmhmmm
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Sweetlana
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: Sweetlana on 08/07/2006 11:32:28
Gallente are g a y.
Caldari are bankers.
Minmatar are colombian drug dealers.
Amarr are evil priests.
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Erotic Irony
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:39:00 -
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Edited by: Erotic Irony on 08/07/2006 11:39:33
CCP needs to get rid of that Gallente line linking them to the French along with any other description that could concretely evince racism or nationalism. After the embarassing 4s verdict and all the "playful" anti-French and anti-Chinese posts on the forums you would think keeping real politics out of the game might be a virtue.
edit: Case in point: Originally by: Sweetlana
Edited by: Sweetlana on 08/07/2006 11:32:28
Gallente are g a y.
Caldari are bankers.
Minmatar are colombian drug dealers.
Amarr are evil priests.
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Omae Gaw'd
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:42:00 -
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amen
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Ryoka
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:50:00 -
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Edited by: Ryoka on 08/07/2006 11:50:50
Originally by: Kuonrada Uotadan
I have spent quite a bit of time in france, and I haven't really met any "real" french people. The people I met were mostly african/arab immigrants or other europeans; It was kind of baffling to be honest :D
My thoughts:
Gallante - Cold War French :D
Caldari - WW2 Japanese/German Mix (Industry, Honor, Technosupremecy and Military Might all mixed into one)
Ammar - Amaaricans :D (Corrupted religous right anyone?)
Minmatar - Gypsies (space gypsies flying around in armored trashcans with engines)
heh, my thoughts exactly!!! 
Though the minmatar seem to more of a mix of oppressed black slaves and the stereotypical mexicans 
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Terraform
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:50:00 -
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Originally by: Jester87
Amarr, Im not really sure? They are powerful like the U.S.A and religious. But they also like slaves which is sort of Old School European.
Old school european?? if anything slaves are more tied to american history. Get your facts straight stoopy...
Stereotyping is lame as hell!
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madaluap
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:54:00 -
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Originally by: Jester87
Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Gallente... French... whatever, you obviously dont know what your talking about, since when do te frnech have an economical and military capability equal to that of the worlds leading superpower. The caldari dont really have a real life equivualent, the gallente and caldari are most easily compared as two difference aspects of the American or western culture asit is today, the ammar? Old empires are probobly the best comparrison since thier attitude is somewhat not comparable to any race on earth that i know of.
Yea, no reason to get so hostile either.
Some people love roleplaying
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La Tortura
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:57:00 -
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well, let's try to look at it from the antropology side.
Gallente are French/Italian/Hyspanic. Mediterranean Europe, that is. Dinaric/Mediterranean races. Ideology, behaviour and apearrance are similar to real life ones, except exessive militarisation in eve.
Caldari are German/Baltic/Russian. Nordic/Ostbalt/Uraloid races. Ideology, behaviour and apearrance are very similar to real life ones. Corporate state, militarisation etc.
Minmatar are those who are known as African-American now, with quite a big helping of Hyspanic, Arabian (Semitic) and other blood. Probably black minority of today's North America/Europe, but hard to say really. By their behaviour and position in eve world they are resemble radical Muslim people and organisations of today.
Amarr are mix of white Americans (Anglo-Sax)/Jewish(Semitic) races. Probably deccendants of today's USA. Amarr greatly resemble their moral values and ethics. Ideology is the right-wing Judaic-Protestantisms in it's extreme. Appearance recembles their real life counterparts as well, not so distinctly as in the case of gallente/caldari tho.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.07.08 12:02:00 -
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If I had to go with a race, I would say Amarr = Post war Japanese. Probably the most imperialist society there has ever been with the Emperor as the ultimate ruler over everyone.
The rest are a mish-mash of several races. Caldari is more the corporate run Western society as a whole UK, America and such. Minmatar are probably the third world countries that the Western countries have always treated as underdogs. Gallente is a kind of mix of East and West Europe.
A quick bit of trivia here:
Minamata is the name of a town in Japan that was poisoned in 1956 by a leak of inorganic methyl mercury from a wood pulping plant into Lake Minamata, a chemical better known as PMT which has since been made illegal. It caused a community of 100 thousand to become diseased and disfigured. They called it Drunken sickness since the toxin affects the brain and causes the victim to become confused and disorientated, it is one of the few toxins that can transcend the placental barrier to cause deformities in the foetus.
Minamata - Minmatar - Coincidence or not?
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Erotic Irony
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Posted - 2006.07.08 12:07:00 -
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Edited by: Erotic Irony on 08/07/2006 12:08:00
Not quite related to Japan.
Some, if not much, of the etymology in Eve is Icelandic. I believe Minmatar is something to the effect of 'lesser people.'
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Posted - 2006.07.08 12:33:00 -
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Well to be honest I would say this:
From Babylon 5 universe
Gallente: Centauri
Caldari: Humans
Amarr: Minbari
Minmatar: Narn
Jove: Shadows or Vorlons
Think that sums it up pretty good :-)
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Posted - 2006.07.08 13:35:00 -
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It is far more interesting and accurate to try and see parallels between EvE and real world socio economic models:
Caldari: Authoritarian Capitalism (Singapore,Japan, S. Korea, china)< The future ! IMO 
Gallente: Democratic Captalism(most the the west)
Amarr:The United Arab Emirates, most of the manual labourers have no rights what-so-ever(slavery?), but there is huge development and big business, and a Feudal head of state. Not really fanatical but alot of stuff is faith based, spiral architecture(spirals, the palm properties in Dubai) being ascendancy to god etc.
Mimatarr:Not entirely sure, communistic, hands on technology approach, could be any number of (failed?)nation states post WWII
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Dark Shikari
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Posted - 2006.07.08 13:37:00 -
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Caldari = Japan + Scandinavia
Gallente = French
Amarr = Arab + Roman
Minmatar = ? dunno
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Gundog Prime
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Posted - 2006.07.08 13:44:00 -
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Soooooooo.....im Caldari and im Scottish, guess i break the mold 
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Mesacc
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Posted - 2006.07.08 14:01:00 -
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With Eve being set so far in the future, by then our DNA would be so intermixed that were all just Mutts! Theres my 2 isks.
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Lady Fallon
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Posted - 2006.07.08 14:03:00 -
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Caldari government is definatly like here in the US though, its controled by Corperations!
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Jester87
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:00:00 -
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I think its sad that so many people are afraid that this will turn into a flame fest or insult someone. If we can all be civil about it that shouldnt happen - In addition get over your fears about always having to be politically correct.
In additon, I didnt mean just cultures or people of today, I meant throughout history, so if you are AFRAID to mention a modern culture - use ancient ones.
So far, I find this very interesting what people are saying - Amarr like the romans! never considered that. And Caldai like the Scandanavians! what??!
This is very interesting, I'd like to see more peoples opinions.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:04:00 -
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Originally by: Jester87
I think its sad that so many people are afraid that this will turn into a flame fest or insult someone. If we can all be civil about it that shouldnt happen
I take it you haven't spent much time on the internet 
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Andreask14
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:16:00 -
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Gallente = European
Caldari = EurAsia
Amarr = American
Minamtar = Africans
But hell, it doesnt matter anyway.
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:25:00 -
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why did we have to go for race anyway? what about companys?
Caldari = microsoft
Amarr = Sony
Gallente = Google
Minmatar = Vodaphone
This is a forum people! keep it lighthearted and funny!
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kill or die trying
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Waut
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:26:00 -
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Caldari: German (cold & efficient)
Gallente: French
Minmatar: African
Amarr: American: powerfull, slavedrivers, religious nutters
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DiXXaR
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:32:00 -
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Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Gallente... French... whatever, you obviously dont know what your talking about, since when do te frnech have an economical and military capability equal to that of the worlds leading superpower. The caldari dont really have a real life equivualent, the gallente and caldari are most easily compared as two difference aspects of the American or western culture asit is today, the ammar? Old empires are probobly the best comparrison since thier attitude is somewhat not comparable to any race on earth that i know of.
Just dont forget from where your coming from
USA didnt pop in a magical cloud of smoke.
So get some respect please.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:43:00 -
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Originally by: Bryan Durl
why did we have to go for race anyway? what about companys?
Caldari = microsoft
Amarr = Sony
Gallente = Google
Minmatar = Fiat
This is a forum people! keep it lighthearted and funny!
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Bryan Durl
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:47:00 -
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Edited by: Bryan Durl on 08/07/2006 16:49:11
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Bryan Durl
why did we have to go for race anyway? what about companys?
Caldari = microsoft
Amarr = Sony
Gallente = Google
Minmatar = Fiat
This is a forum people! keep it lighthearted and funny!
Fixed
Opps double post
Heh at least someone got the joke :) i was actually thinking of having citroen as minmatar :P
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How did i get here?
Originally by: Chode Rizoum
kill or die trying
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Bryan Durl
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Posted - 2006.07.08 16:48:00 -
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Edited by: Bryan Durl on 08/07/2006 16:48:55
Edited by: Bryan Durl on 08/07/2006 16:48:49
Opps double post!
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How did i get here?
Originally by: Chode Rizoum
kill or die trying
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Gundog Prime
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Posted - 2006.07.08 17:05:00 -
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Caldari = Apple, smooth and sharp tasting
Gallente = Pear, a little warped and generally fruity
Amarr = Lemon, pretty but bitter
Minmatar = Pineapple, cos they just do ok???
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Kisaku
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Posted - 2006.07.08 17:30:00 -
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Originally by: Waut
Caldari: German (cold & efficient)
Gallente: French
Minmatar: African
Amarr: American: powerfull, slavedrivers, religious nutters
Now that last line is how you turn this into a flame fest.
America can be considered a powerful country, but calling us slavedrivers is just dum.  Slavery was something dealt with all over the world. America and Europe. Its existed for centuries in many different countries of past times, it was wrong and its over.
Also note that religion is found in every country, so calling American's relgious nutters is wrong, since probably every country has a good amount of people who practice a religion of some type.
I would personally think that Gallente/caldari make up different facets of "western" society taken to their extremes.
I don't know much about minmatar culture, so I can't give any ideas there. Amarr seem to be built all around a religion that touches every aspect of ammarrian life. Perhaps similar to India and their caste system, or maybe one of the Old, old Arab countries.
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Posted - 2006.07.08 18:02:00 -
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Edited by: Mtthias Clemi on 08/07/2006 18:03:22
heh  sorry about that initial hostile attitude, the whole thing is trivial in any case, i just dont like being called french
Although i do uphold that i think that the Caldari and Gallente are both representations of different parts of western society, as others have said.
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Nukeitall
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Posted - 2006.07.08 18:31:00 -
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Some of the opinions expressed here make me want to throw myself onto a metal spike. Seriously.
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Waut
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Posted - 2006.07.08 18:48:00 -
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Originally by: Kisaku
Originally by: Waut
Caldari: German (cold & efficient)
Gallente: French
Minmatar: African
Amarr: American: powerfull, slavedrivers, religious nutters
Now that last line is how you turn this into a flame fest.
America can be considered a powerful country, but calling us slavedrivers is just dum. Slavery was something dealt with all over the world. America and Europe. Its existed for centuries in many different countries of past times, it was wrong and its over.
I was hoping the OP would see the irony in his post about old school european mkay?
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Adoro
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Posted - 2006.07.08 19:12:00 -
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If I have to post my reply what race I compare with the USA, people would start swearing and I will get banned...so I wont...
Contact me ingame and I'll give you my answer for Iskies!
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2006.07.08 19:25:00 -
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kinda hard one but I will give it a go
Caldari: Axis powers during WW2, stong military, advanced tech, efficent, strong feelings for state, guided by large corprations...(I will let you figure out which comes from which of the axis powers).
Gallente: french but a almgamation of difrent periods of fench history.
Minmatar: African, tribal culture screwed over by larger powers, you could throw in other bits and peices as well...
Amarr: Hmmmmm a combo of both Roman and Indian? Caste based from India and sowing the fields with salt if you have to leave from Roman times...
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Viktor Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.07.08 19:25:00 -
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Amarr is much like the crusades era world, our god is right yours is wrong now die.
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Ghoest
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Posted - 2006.07.08 20:33:00 -
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Why does the only black(african) "race" have the lowest intelligence by far in the game????
Wherever you went - here you are.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.07.08 20:36:00 -
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Originally by: Ghoest
Why does the only black(african) "race" have the lowest intelligence by far in the game????
because CCP are mindless racists?
Somehow I doubt that was intentional.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.07.08 22:07:00 -
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Originally by: Bryan Durl
Edited by: Bryan Durl on 08/07/2006 16:49:11
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Bryan Durl
why did we have to go for race anyway? what about companys?
Caldari = microsoft
Amarr = Sony
Gallente = Google
Minmatar = Fiat
This is a forum people! keep it lighthearted and funny!
Fixed
Opps double post
Heh at least someone got the joke :) i was actually thinking of having citroen as minmatar :P
I was thinking more along lines of Skoda or Lada
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2006.07.09 00:26:00 -
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Originally by: Varis
They are not really similar to actual people. but closer to various cultural/historical stereotypes...
Caldari: corporate/zaibatsu
Gallente: socialist democracy
Amarr: "imperial" (Rome, byzantium, etc)
Minmatar: oppressed minority...
You're a spastic, nuff said
Gallente are not socialist you *******.
They are libertarian
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Shinnen
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Posted - 2006.07.09 00:28:00 -
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Originally by: nahtoh
Gallente: french but a almgamation of difrent periods of fench history.
They are Swiss.
Highly educated, Free, Well Cultured men and women.
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Arkanor
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Posted - 2006.07.09 00:58:00 -
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Caldari: Yeah I would suppose Axis WWII ish, strong State. Maybe the old USSR.
Gallente: French/American, they let you have guns in their space, all about democracy, freedom, and presidential elections that take forevor to determine the winner of (well and Gallente are French related)
Amarr: Early (1000-1600AD) Vatican. Old Europe, about that time as well.
Minmatar: Africa, the Minmatar were enslaved and they didn't have much space of their own (Euro-colonization of their continent,) plus it's impossible to ignore the obvious racial appearance.
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nahtoh
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Posted - 2006.07.09 02:13:00 -
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Originally by: Shinnen
Originally by: nahtoh
Gallente: french but a almgamation of difrent periods of fench history.
They are Swiss.
Highly educated, Free, Well Cultured men and women.
A wee bit to free wheeling to be swiss i think
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Posted - 2006.07.09 03:20:00 -
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Originally by: Kuonrada Uotadan
Ammar - Amaaricans :D (Corrupted religous right anyone?)
Finally, someone else who gets that! \o/
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.07.09 04:13:00 -
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Edited by: Noriath on 09/07/2006 04:14:08
Socially Caldari are most like fascist nations of the early 20th century, except instead of being controlled by a single dictator they are controlled by an elite of the most wealthy people. The Caldari State owns its citicens, they just don't realise it because they are being bombarded with consumerism and mindless entertainment that keeps them stupid and subserviant, while being scared into obedience and discipline by their state creating an underdog-persona for itself, always outnumbered by unfriendly empires.
Gallente is an accurate representation of all the highs and lows of democracy, at the same time you do have pretty much absoloute freedom in the federation, but also the government is a beurocratic jungle full of peacounters, sleezebags and suckups that gets nothing done untill someone with true ambition steps up and highjacks the federation for a wild ride of radical policy. At the same time everyone within the federation is so obsessed with fighting for their own causes that even though the keep well informed and are political, they seldomly get a glimpse at the bigger picture.
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Quarantine
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Posted - 2006.07.09 04:20:00 -
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I'd say that:
A system like the Caldari have doesn't exist right now - we currently have politics ruling over the economy, while the Caldari state is corporations being the government (the comparison to China is imo completely off). Closest to this would probably be medieval/renaissance cities that were dominated not by aristocratic families, but traders. It's by the way a common cyberpunk theme (Shadworun anyone :)?).
Gallente are your very standard 20th century, democratic, bureaucratic state. Nothing much to say here.
Amarr = Late Roman (=Christian) Empire. Pretty evident imo, strong religious belief focused around an Emperor, slavers, desperately trying not to lose any more territory, dying slowly ;).
Minmatar are several tribes unified by a cause (the Amarr). They are growing together into some sort of state because they have to, with plenty of internal disagreements along the way, and they've only recently gained their independence from a foreign entity - sounds similar to most African countries around the middle of the 20th century to me.
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.07.09 04:37:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Noriath
Socially Caldari are most like fascist nations of the early 20th century, except instead of being controlled by a single dictator they are controlled by an elite of the most wealthy people. The Caldari State owns its citicens, they just don't realise it because they are being bombarded with consumerism and mindless entertainment that keeps them stupid and subserviant, while being scared into obedience and discipline by their state creating an underdog-persona for itself, always outnumbered by unfriendly empires.
You make it sound more like England
Hmm, run by the wealthy - Check
Owns it's citizens - Check
Keeps the stupid and subservient - Definately a check.
Scared into obedience - Check
outnumbered by unfriendly's - Check
Yup, that's England all right.
/me is English (more's the pity)
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SonShadowCat
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Posted - 2006.07.09 04:40:00 -
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No eve race resembles America, they're not fat.
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Arkanor
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Posted - 2006.07.09 05:34:00 -
[74]
Originally by: SonShadowCat
No eve race resembles America, they're not fat.
That's because Quafe and Quafe Ultra are sugar free, we make them from the bones of captured Civire...I mean corn syrup.
Yeah, corn syrup.
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Jane Spondogolo
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Posted - 2006.07.09 07:20:00 -
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I didnt know they had given the african 'looking' minmitar a low intel point.  Thats kinda..... uncool, if perhaps inadvertant.
US politics time then:
Gallente: Democrats. Not into small govt, but your likely to keep your constitution and civil rights intact.
Caldari: Republicans. Well liked by big corporates, but susperct on rights issues.
Ammar: The "Religious Right". Angry Borg politics. Also can't understand where the cottonpickers went. Sympathetic to the Caldari/republicans
Minmitar: Think "black panthers". Righteous cause, but perhaps a little nutty and weapon heavy. Would do well to perhaps talk to the Gallente.
Are folks SURE this line of thinking won't annoy SOMEONE?
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Sergeant Spot
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Posted - 2006.07.09 07:29:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Viktor Fyretracker
Amarr is much like the crusades era world, our god is right yours is wrong now die.
Just say Jyhad. It predates the term Crusade, and is still current.
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Hakk Allardson
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Posted - 2006.07.09 08:15:00 -
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I think only one other poster came close to pinning down the Amarr. I think they are most like the old Ottoman empire as well. The whole Caliphate/theocratic type of government, join us or die attiude is almost identical.
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Lucian Alucard
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Posted - 2006.07.09 08:24:00 -
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Caldari- Japanese
Gallente-French
Amar- Romans
Minmatar- Sterotypicaly black guy who dies alot in Sci-Fi movies,looks bad ass,talks a big talk,hits like a steam roller,just has a glass jaw and no common sense
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Varis
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Posted - 2006.07.09 08:41:00 -
[79]
Originally by: Shinnen
Originally by: Varis
They are not really similar to actual people. but closer to various cultural/historical stereotypes...
Caldari: corporate/zaibatsu
Gallente: socialist democracy
Amarr: "imperial" (Rome, byzantium, etc)
Minmatar: oppressed minority...
You're a spastic, nuff said
Gallente are not socialist you *******.
They are libertarian
hey - i would have been happy for the correction, but **** you too ****nut.
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Jacques Archambault
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Posted - 2006.07.09 09:23:00 -
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Whilst attempting to find parallels between EVE content and real life may appear to be interesting for some people, this kind of open debate tends to drift off into a political direction and can become quite heated. As a result people may become offended and the resulting flaming begins. For this reason, this thread will be locked.
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