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Jester87
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Posted - 2006.07.08 03:39:00 -
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I'd Say Caldari is most like Asia mixed with some German ish - Maybe like the AXIS of ww2, with superior Technology and a focus on military strength.
Obviously Gallente are French.
Amarr, Im not really sure? They are powerful like the U.S.A and religious. But they also like slaves which is sort of Old School European.
Minmatar I think are alot like some African countries, underdogs but fighting strong for thier freedoms and such.
What do ya'll think?
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Mtthias Clemi
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Posted - 2006.07.08 03:46:00 -
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Gallente... French... whatever, you obviously dont know what your talking about, since when do te frnech have an economical and military capability equal to that of the worlds leading superpower. The caldari dont really have a real life equivualent, the gallente and caldari are most easily compared as two difference aspects of the American or western culture asit is today, the ammar? Old empires are probobly the best comparrison since thier attitude is somewhat not comparable to any race on earth that i know of.
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Ma'lice
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Posted - 2006.07.08 03:47:00 -
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WOW!
 All by yourself?
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Himani Yeshua
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Posted - 2006.07.08 03:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Gallente... French... whatever, you obviously dont know what your talking about, since when do te frnech have an economical and military capability equal to that of the worlds leading superpower. The caldari dont really have a real life equivualent, the gallente and caldari are most easily compared as two difference aspects of the American or western culture asit is today, the ammar? Old empires are probobly the best comparrison since thier attitude is somewhat not comparable to any race on earth that i know of.
You, sir, obviously don't know what you're talking about. Click on the Profile of anyone who is Gallente. You can figure the rest out for yourself.
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Viktor Fyretracker
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Posted - 2006.07.08 04:02:00 -
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Caldari are like Japan/USA, highly corperate cultures with access to the latest in tech.
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Jester87
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Posted - 2006.07.08 04:47:00 -
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Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Gallente... French... whatever, you obviously dont know what your talking about, since when do te frnech have an economical and military capability equal to that of the worlds leading superpower. The caldari dont really have a real life equivualent, the gallente and caldari are most easily compared as two difference aspects of the American or western culture asit is today, the ammar? Old empires are probobly the best comparrison since thier attitude is somewhat not comparable to any race on earth that i know of.
Yea, no reason to get so hostile either.
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David Ryan
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Posted - 2006.07.08 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: Himani Yeshua
Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Gallente... French... whatever, you obviously dont know what your talking about, since when do te frnech have an economical and military capability equal to that of the worlds leading superpower. The caldari dont really have a real life equivualent, the gallente and caldari are most easily compared as two difference aspects of the American or western culture asit is today, the ammar? Old empires are probobly the best comparrison since thier attitude is somewhat not comparable to any race on earth that i know of.
You, sir, obviously don't know what you're talking about. Click on the Profile of anyone who is Gallente. You can figure the rest out for yourself.
Just because it says they are from that race doesn't mean they are anything like the french in our time period whatsoever. Sir.
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Jane Spondogolo
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Posted - 2006.07.08 05:39:00 -
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Edited by: Jane Spondogolo on 08/07/2006 05:40:11
You know folks, would I be commiting heresy if I suggested that comparing science-fiction "races" to real human "races" (which I'd argue are largely illusary, other than a a bit of pigment or cheek structure or whatnot) is perilous.
Unlike our 'fantasy' races, earth races are kinda real and personal and starting a potential flame war about who is better than who could turn pear shaped quickly. Lets not go there.
edit: damn alt again.
To reiterate, I just dont think saying "black folk dance like this, white folk dance like that" is particularly helpful or true.
All folks have 2 things in common;-
1) Their blood is read
2) You can't hear them scream in space 
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Double TaP
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Posted - 2006.07.08 05:41:00 -
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yes stop this thread right now.
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Shaikar
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Posted - 2006.07.08 06:05:00 -
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Edited by: Shaikar on 08/07/2006 06:07:14
None of the EVE factions really match any given modern nation.
EG1 the Minmatar seem quite stereotypical Viking to me, given their ship names...but then the big group of people the Victorians decided to lump under "Vikings" and stick horns on weren't like any one people in the first place and are nothing historically like the minmatar. Then again I could make just as good comparisions to pretty much any tribally sturctured people you care to name ;)
EG2 The Amarr Empire is quite like the Eastern Roman Empire/early Byzantine Empire in many ways, although the way of choosing the Emperor is more like how the Pope is chosen now (except Cardinals aren't expected to comitt suicide if they fail to become Pope :P ) and the religion style veers off all over the place, ranging from the Inquisition to lot less ... fanatical ... places.
Then again both have a lot in common with the basics of modern life as well, so... /shrug :)
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Varis
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Posted - 2006.07.08 06:11:00 -
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They are not really similar to actual people. but closer to various cultural/historical stereotypes...
Caldari: corporate/zaibatsu
Gallente: socialist democracy
Amarr: "imperial" (Rome, byzantium, etc)
Minmatar: oppressed minority...
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arbitrary
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Posted - 2006.07.08 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Gallente... French... whatever, you obviously dont know what your talking about, since when do te frnech have an economical and military capability equal to that of the worlds leading superpower. The caldari dont really have a real life equivualent, the gallente and caldari are most easily compared as two difference aspects of the American or western culture asit is today, the ammar? Old empires are probobly the best comparrison since thier attitude is somewhat not comparable to any race on earth that i know of.
you might take up your history book good sir.
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But I think indeed real life comparison is out of place, one could argue that the gallente is an RL obscure sect that will in the coming years expand, and by 2341 peak into world domination.
the same goes for ther others - so besides the devs it is all rather moot, besides the obvious reference (but then the minmatar should rather be nordic, not african).
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Ma'lice
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Posted - 2006.07.08 06:23:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Spondogolo
Edited by: Jane Spondogolo on 08/07/2006 05:40:11
You know folks, would I be commiting heresy if I suggested that comparing science-fiction "races" to real human "races" (which I'd argue are largely illusary, other than a a bit of pigment or cheek structure or whatnot) is perilous.
Unlike our 'fantasy' races, earth races are kinda real and personal and starting a potential flame war about who is better than who could turn pear shaped quickly. Lets not go there.
edit: damn alt again.
To reiterate, I just dont think saying "black folk dance like this, white folk dance like that" is particularly helpful or true.
All folks have 2 things in common;-
1) Their blood is read
2) You can't hear them scream in space
Now those are the most intelligent words I've read in these forums all night.
But you will take note that th OP name is Jester87.
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Mrs Miyagi
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Posted - 2006.07.08 06:24:00 -
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They are based on a random sample of people that Oveur stumbled into drunk in Rejkjavik McDonalds.
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Novarei
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Posted - 2006.07.08 07:09:00 -
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Originally by: Mtthias Clemi
Gallente... French... whatever, you obviously dont know what your talking about, since when do te frnech have an economical and military capability equal to that of the worlds leading superpower. The caldari dont really have a real life equivualent, the gallente and caldari are most easily compared as two difference aspects of the American or western culture asit is today, the ammar? Old empires are probobly the best comparrison since thier attitude is somewhat not comparable to any race on earth that i know of.
lol 
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Drizit
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Posted - 2006.07.08 07:37:00 -
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Originally by: Varis
They are not really similar to actual people. but closer to various cultural/historical stereotypes...
Caldari: corporate/zaibatsu
Gallente: socialist democracy
Amarr: "imperial" (Rome, byzantium, etc)
Minmatar: oppressed minority...
I'd agree with you there. There's more social structure than racial structure in Eve.
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HippoKing
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Posted - 2006.07.08 08:34:00 -
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Comparing things like this is never a good idea because somone will always get ****ed off. On the other hand, I've always thought of the Caldari as being racially (if not culturally) decended from Scandanavians.
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MuffinsRevenger
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Posted - 2006.07.08 09:01:00 -
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Originally by: Mrs Miyagi
They are based on a random sample of people that Oveur stumbled into drunk in Rejkjavik McDonalds.
Explains so manny things it's scary :o
Originally by: The Wizz117
jeez those guyz @ ccp talk like sweedish nobody will take u seriouse with that cind of accent.
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Bean Doodle
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Posted - 2006.07.08 09:04:00 -
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eeeeee!
controversy
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.07.08 09:07:00 -
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I think you should end the thread right here.
Someones gonna post something really offensive, it always happens so im waiting..
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Gundog Prime
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Posted - 2006.07.08 09:12:00 -
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Why do people always have to draw parallels between fiction and reality?
I like making comments to my Minmatar Corp mates about how they are only good for cleaning my boots, im not racist or believing in Slave trade RL, i just enjoy the GAME!!!!
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Alain Dezor
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Posted - 2006.07.08 09:12:00 -
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Gallente = Canadian 
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Kata Dakini
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Posted - 2006.07.08 09:19:00 -
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Originally by: Jane Spondogolo
Edited by: Jane Spondogolo on 08/07/2006 05:40:11
You know folks, would I be commiting heresy if I suggested that comparing science-fiction "races" to real human "races" (which I'd argue are largely illusary, other than a a bit of pigment or cheek structure or whatnot) is perilous.
Unlike our 'fantasy' races, earth races are kinda real and personal and starting a potential flame war about who is better than who could turn pear shaped quickly. Lets not go there.
edit: damn alt again.
To reiterate, I just dont think saying "black folk dance like this, white folk dance like that" is particularly helpful or true.
All folks have 2 things in common;-
1) Their blood is read
2) You can't hear them scream in space
Personally, this post was the most offensive to me. A spade is a spade, and the truth is not the most gentle. If someone gets offended because they were compared to a fictional race of people then they need to grow up. If you're a man, you shouldn't have to squat to pee.
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Ithildin
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Posted - 2006.07.08 09:24:00 -
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Well, I won't go into Amarr or Minmatar, since that's kind of difficult to do without offending or confusing.
Caldari, however, are most deffinatly feudal Japan inspired, with removal of the roles of Shogun (it was rare that there was a strong Shogun in either case) and Emperor (whom often played a symbolic or tactical role rather than being an actual political power) Caldari are lead by what can be compared to Daimyos (representing the heads of the Caldari corporations) and samurai (high ranking Caldari officials and officers).
Very hierachial society, and very keen on discipline. "Do whatever your superior wishes you to do"
Gallente being called french all the time is not as much wrong as not the whole truth. They are "ancestors of Alpha Centauri french", which is not to say they are anything like "Bordeaux french". What that means is that France colonized space, they were most likely the first to send a mayor colony convoy to Alpha Centauri (already here we are far in the future, and france might have changed drastically). After this, EVE gate opened and it was from these colonies that the surviving Gallenteans originated.
In sociological build they resemble most modern western republics, which means Gallente are "American" or "French" or "English" or even "German". What you have to do to all of those above is to remove the multiple party elections that you get in Europe and reduce it to the binary elections that you have in USA. At the same time, Gallentean foreign policy resembles the European Union's combined/avarage foreign policy to a much greater extent than the american foreign policy. This includes aiding the less fortunate allies (Minmatar) as well as adopting a minimal military agressiveness.
All in all, I am saying that you cannot bind Gallenteans to just France. Gallente are of the same the sociological and ideological structure as most of us playing. I find it especially amusing when english people call Gallenteans snail-eating surrender monkeys in a disdainful voice.
Gallente are a free society, kept together by laws. "Do whatever you want, but don't do this"
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Edhel
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Posted - 2006.07.08 10:22:00 -
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All the races represent an icelandic political faction.
Gallente - leftside nature freaks (V. Grµnir)
Caldari - !Right! inclined corporatism (X-D)
Amarr - The Church, possibly even a faction in or off the church like ("THE CROSS")
Minmatar - The Union (AS-)
on a more serious note... has anyone of you ever met a french person?
they're nothing like the Gallente, whilst being quite annoying.. not even close to a real french person.
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Travis050
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:04:00 -
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Amarr are probably the looooong dead ottoman empire...
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Kuonrada Uotadan
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:09:00 -
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I have spent quite a bit of time in france, and I haven't really met any "real" french people. The people I met were mostly african/arab immigrants or other europeans; It was kind of baffling to be honest :D
My thoughts:
Gallante - Cold War French :D
Caldari - WW2 Japanese/German Mix (Industry, Honor, Technosupremecy and Military Might all mixed into one)
Ammar - Amaaricans :D (Corrupted religous right anyone?)
Minmatar - Gypsies (space gypsies flying around in armored trashcans with engines)
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Chester McFester
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:13:00 -
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I think the Caldari are like Microsoft.
They were a corporation that got too big and starting fighting the gallente...
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Foxyoneill
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:17:00 -
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If the Gallente are French, then why does the Megathron look like a Volvo? HMHmhmmm
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Sweetlana
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Posted - 2006.07.08 11:32:00 -
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Edited by: Sweetlana on 08/07/2006 11:32:28
Gallente are g a y.
Caldari are bankers.
Minmatar are colombian drug dealers.
Amarr are evil priests.
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