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Yitori Boz'Ner
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Posted - 2006.07.08 09:47:00 -
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I'm just an astroid farmer, but I wanted to hear your theories on "Earth". Do you think it was a real place, or just religious garbage? Was it just our wasteland oregin planet or a garden of Eden? And what about EVE? A gateway to our homeworld, or god its self? Tell me what you think!
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Telemicus Thrace
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Posted - 2006.07.08 10:07:00 -
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I think Earth is just some creationist myth. Perhaps just a representation of the global conciousness some can tap into when meditating. The "world" from which we all sprang if you like.
The New Eden anomaly is interesting but I don't [retend to know what it is.
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Kerin Melak
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Posted - 2006.07.08 12:08:00 -
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It's an interesting story and it would be nice to believe there was some magical, mythical world on the other side of the EVE phenomenon where once upon a time we all lived together, however I can't see it as actually being true.
Surely if "Earth" did exist we'd have come across it by now in our explorations of space. Even if the EVE phenomenon was theoretically a portal to somewhere else it surely couldn't extend beyond the entire galaxy. Though perhaps there is the possiblity it leads to Jovian space, which remains a mystery to all but the Jove.
Personally I think Earth is a moralistic myth on how "once upon a time" we all lived in a paradise and we could do so again if only we did X, Y and Z.
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Rana Ash
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Posted - 2006.07.08 14:10:00 -
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It's a nice story, a story i think certin people needs to have for to feel that they are'nt alone.
But part of something much bigger, and that beyond the EVE gate lies something truly amazing.
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Astarte Nosferatu
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Posted - 2006.07.08 15:51:00 -
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 Originally by: Yitori Boz'Ner
How do you see "Earth?"
Drugs.
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Kaleigh Doyle
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Posted - 2006.07.08 17:46:00 -
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I think there are more important things to worry about than Earth.
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Yitori Boz'Ner
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Posted - 2006.07.08 17:52:00 -
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Like what? It's not a matter of importance, I'm just trying to pass the time, hearing what people think.
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Malthros Zenobia
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Posted - 2006.07.08 18:12:00 -
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I see earth every time I look at a well terra-formed planet.
Earth is what we walk on outside when planetside, nothing more.
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Shintoko Akahoshi
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Posted - 2006.07.08 18:19:00 -
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"Earth"? Isn't that just another word for "dirt"?
I never really liked that "planet" scene, anyways. I visited one once, didn't care for it. Big, dirty, and nothing to keep the air in.
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Frezik
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Posted - 2006.07.08 18:20:00 -
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All the races in Eve are too similar to be from different planets. Rational people agree that there must be a single planet of origin. "Earth" is as good a name as any for this place, but it's hard to say where it is or if any given story about it is true.
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AKGUTWORM
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Posted - 2006.07.09 00:42:00 -
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yes i agee with the idea of one planet being the home world of all. an example of this is the difernt tribes of matar all of them have difernt physical characteristics yet we are all of the same planet
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Cortana Raven
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Posted - 2006.07.09 04:10:00 -
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Oh please, the existance of an extra-galactic origin "Earth" planet is well known to scholars.
While most information about our origins are in the hands of the Jovians (who aren't sharing) and Amarrians (distorted by time and the filter of religion), our timekeeping system is based on Earth time, we have some idea of the calendar in Earth years, meters and kilometers are old Earth units, and we even us AU, astronomical units based on Earth's solar system. Interestingly enough, the "light year" unit is scarcely used, only in the context of capital ship jump drives.
Anyway, there's no disputing our extra galactic origins. Whether the spatial anomaly in New Eden is the remains of a wormhole open to debate. Whatever the case, this "Earth" is long gone as far as we're concerned. It could be on the other side of the known universe. What are the odds of a second identical spatial anomaly having the same effect of linking the same two points in space again? What are the odds of a specific celestial occurance happening again in our lifetimes, as opposed to the billions of years these things usually work by? If New Eden was a gateway, it was a one shot thing. But don't let me talk anyone out of trying to fly into it.
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OmegaChief
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Posted - 2006.07.09 11:12:00 -
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For the 16th time we have someone moaning on about "Earth".
Firstly I'd like to point out a few assumtions everyone makes:
1) There is no evidence that this mythical planet has anything to do with the EVE gate
2) The one strand of evidence people cling to is that all the races are similar, sure we could come from one planet, but its equally likley we're genetic experiments by another race
3) That the EVE gate has anything to do with our "Ancestors" is very arrogant, how do we know it wasn't created by some completly alien race?
Now as a kind request to my fellow pilots, stop brining up "Earth" or the EVE gate every other week, I'm sick and tiered of hearing about it.
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Britannica
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Posted - 2006.07.09 14:01:00 -
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stories have been passed down through the generations amongst a small portion of caldari society tell that earth was the homeworld of all races and our peoples got here from another galaxy through a wormhole mankind found and changed to support bigger craft
these stories also tell of wars that scared the world and of religous zealots who destroyed the wormhole believing it was the devils work
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Stitcher
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Posted - 2006.07.09 16:33:00 -
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Edited by: Stitcher on 09/07/2006 16:35:03
Edited by: Stitcher on 09/07/2006 16:34:15
The of Earth idea makes sense to me. All due respect to the pilot who suggested the "we are all alien experiments" scenario, but I'm yet to hear of anyone finding alien relics on that sort of scale, whereas I've seen the EVE gate for myself.
If we were the product of another, older species' creation, then there'd be stations, gene-labs, cities, ruins and, in short, evidence to suggest that such a species ever existed. There are alien archeological artefacts about the place, sure, but nothing on a scale to suggest a race with the science and ability to create a whole new sentient race.
Our legacy, assuming we ever fade, will last in some way until the end of this galaxy, and probably longer. I can't imagine that a race more advanced than we would leave no evidence at all.
On the other hand, if we accept for the moment the theory that we all evolved on a distant planet in another galaxy, came here through a wormhole, and it subsequently collapsed and threw us all into a dark age where knowledge came second to survival... that at least is a plausible theory with some evidence to back it up.
As for Earth itself, I imagine it would have been a lot like any habitable world - nitrogen/oxygen atmosphere, pretty humid, temperature in the low melting range of water, solid with a molten iron core anda strong magnetic field... pretty standard for what our species can live on.
I strongly doubt it was any kind of a utopia, however. Our race is not noted for its capacity to co-operate with itself.
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Yuki Li
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Posted - 2006.07.09 16:41:00 -
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Through the giant space telescope on Yulai V - Moon 1.
Provided you've taken the correct dosage of Crash you're sure to see it.
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Killer Gandry
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Posted - 2006.07.09 16:45:00 -
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Ow goodie, a nice tale to tell to kids, if I take all the blabbering people have about this socalled planet and bundle it I could make a nice bundle of ISK from sales.
Oops... never mind. Even tales need a speck of truth.
maybe I can sell it as myths or something.
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Cortana Raven
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Posted - 2006.07.09 18:38:00 -
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Originally by: Stitcher
Edited by: Stitcher on 09/07/2006 16:34:15
As for Earth itself, I imagine it would have been a lot like any habitable world - nitrogen/oxygen atmosphere, pretty humid, temperature in the low melting range of water, solid with a molten iron core anda strong magnetic field... pretty standard for what our species can live on.
Further evidence describing an origin planet's environment can be seen in the ancient terraforming equipment on old Caldari Prime.
We aren't just biologically optimized for 80/20 nitrogen/oxygen atmosphere, 1g gravity, ~300K temps, etc.; equipment exists, predating our civilizations, to transform planets to those habitable ranges.
Now if we would just boot the Gallente off the planet, we can study the old terraforming process in more detail!
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Haverloth
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Posted - 2006.07.09 18:45:00 -
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Only those who have Faith and those who Believe will understand the Truth.
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Stitcher
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Posted - 2006.07.09 22:31:00 -
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Let's leave religion and politics out of the realm of science for now, yes? I appreciate the sentiment, Citizen Cortana, but now isn't the time.
Though I agree, it would be fantastic to send a team of Caldari scientists back to the old homeworld, see what new understanding we can pull from those old terraforming machines that we were too primitive to understand before. In the interests of interestellar prosperity we could even offer to make it a joint effort... I'm sure both the State and the Federation learned enough from the Crielere incident to avoid a repeat performance.
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Raznarok
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Posted - 2006.07.10 01:06:00 -
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Edited by: Raznarok on 10/07/2006 01:06:14
Double post.
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Raznarok
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Posted - 2006.07.10 01:06:00 -
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Earth exist's in bedtime stories, and mythology.
There is no evidence to show that it ever did or still does exist.
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Takitoo
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Posted - 2006.07.10 02:30:00 -
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All the Vitriol aside, the theory that our species came from one planet isn't all that uncommon. We do share the same genes, largely, which would have had to develop in the same environment.
Was this planet some wonderland where everything was good and it's behind this space anomaly we call the EVE gate ? Very doubtful, but in any case: Does it matter ?
"Earth": the place where this myth started could be any of the already known planets, or one of the uncharted ones, but to me that doesn't really matter, as it's a thing of the past in any case.
What matters is that it's a very nice story.
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Raznarok
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Posted - 2006.07.10 05:14:00 -
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Originally by: Takitoo
We do share the same genes, largely, which would have had to develop in the same environment.
* Scrunches her face *
Thats disgusting.
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Lance Tyr
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Posted - 2006.07.10 09:22:00 -
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Earth, whether existed or not, has its place within each culture. For some it gives hope of answering that ultimate question "Who are we?". Others its a source of scientific interest and a desire to explore. Yet some would use it for religion or even propaganda. In a way it's comforting to know that it is possible that we might one day come across our progenitors. I like knowing that there are others out there.
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Raznarok
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Posted - 2006.07.10 20:11:00 -
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Thats just it, you dont know for sure.
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Kerc Kasha
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Posted - 2006.07.11 11:18:00 -
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Originally by: Kerin Melak
Surely if "Earth" did exist we'd have come across it by now in our explorations of space. Even if the EVE phenomenon was theoretically a portal to somewhere else it surely couldn't extend beyond the entire galaxy. Though perhaps there is the possiblity it leads to Jovian space, which remains a mystery to all but the Jove.
Frankly the reason we haven't come across "Earth" (Or Terra as it is sometimes refered to, to not confuse with 'dirt') is because where ever it is, if it does exist. It sure isn't in the New Eden galaxy.
The story of Earth is a childrens bedtime story, its there to remind us that paradise is out there somewhere and no matter how grim life is, we will find it eventually. Don't question happiness to the people even if it is a lie.
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Serkis
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Posted - 2006.07.11 15:30:00 -
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Originally by: Yitori Boz'Ner
I'm just an astroid farmer, but I wanted to hear your theories on "Earth". Do you think it was a real place, or just religious garbage? Was it just our wasteland oregin planet or a garden of Eden? And what about EVE? A gateway to our homeworld, or god its self? Tell me what you think!
Havent heard about "earth" before, but EvE is a gateway to enlightenment! Once the sisters have opened it, all hostility between the empires will cease and pod pilots will mine veldspar in syndicate with flowers in their hair.
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Roy Gordon
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Posted - 2006.07.11 16:52:00 -
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When I served with the 501st Bomb Wing I once heard a tale about an old wreck found by a salvage crew in some asteroid belt. They said it was almost unrecognisable as a ship, being mostly twisted mangled metal full of pock-marks and holes from meteorite collisions. However, the salvage team had the presence of mind to actually send a probe inside the wreck and retrieved some crates that were inside. Turns out that the crate contained very archaic data storage devices which the State managed to patch up and get working. Seems they were very much like our holoreels in nature and showed images of Earth and other worlds not within our space. Now, could have been an old spacers tale, but who knows whats in the States data vaults eh?
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Frezik
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Posted - 2006.07.11 17:16:00 -
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Originally by: Raznarok
Originally by: Takitoo
We do share the same genes, largely, which would have had to develop in the same environment.
* Scrunches her face *
Thats disgusting.
Pity the Amarrians. Their minds can hardly deal with the idea that they might share blood with us "savages".
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