some poor guys miss click the link (by the enemy?), and the setting completely mess up

Who are you? I have never seen you before.

I can see this being abused by people sharing the links as other things, and having settings that are totally messed up. Would not wanna be one to click a link that is supposed to be a contract or fleet, only to have it over-ride my overview with setting that will take me time to correct.

I'm the QA guy on Team Pirate Unicorns. I've been a GM for almost 3 years, just recently moved to QA.



We included a warning box that cannot be suppressed, hopefully that will prevent any misunderstandings.

I'm the QA guy on Team Pirate Unicorns. I've been a GM for almost 3 years, just recently moved to QA.



We included a warning box that cannot be suppressed, hopefully that will prevent any misunderstandings.

Can overview settings include colortags and backgrounds, not just preset states & column info? Column/tab info, that is .basically "global" overview settings ought to mean global, not "everything but colors"

We included a warning box that cannot be suppressed, hopefully that will prevent any misunderstandings.

If another pilot clicks the link, your overview will completely overwrite his/hers.

-New overview tabs are now created by clicking a little icon to the right of the rightmost tab, similar to how internet browser tabs can be created.

I like the idea of sharing in general ... BUT not in an all or nothing fashion as presented. Make it possible to add fellow presets to your current profile which you can chose from but don't mess up with your current setup. This would ne a nice feature.

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Can you make that automatically back up your current overview before applying the changes? I know there's a confirmation box but with such a radical change that completely overwrites everything, I think it'd be a good practice to automatically back up the settings before overwriting them.

This could use the existing export function, by exporting it as eg. YYYY/MM/DD_backup_001 or something automatically.

Some of you want ability to "restore" your overview... remember that you can always create a link to your overview the way you like it, so the best way I see to do this (rather than us implementing some "restore overview" behavior) is to create a link with the overview you are happy with and store it in for example your notepad (or bio if you don't mind other people seeing it, or corp bulletins etc). That wway you could store links to many overviews like "pvp overview", "mining overview", "overview for noobs", and if you happen to override your overview with something you don't like, clicking one of those links will restore it.

I think it's a bit of an ugly workaround for something which can be messed up with 1 click... If you're adding the feature, I'm sure we'd all benefit you spending the extra few hours to add the necessary polish to it with a revert.

Can you make that automatically back up your current overview before applying the changes? I know there's a confirmation box but with such a radical change that completely overwrites everything, I think it'd be a good practice to automatically back up the settings before overwriting them.

This could use the existing export function, by exporting it as eg. YYYY/MM/DD_backup_001 or something automatically.

Does this mean that overview states will finally be made useful?

Example: Show only war targets.

Hello pilots!

We are working on few new overview-related features, and a first iteration will go live on Singularity in the very near future.

-You can now share your overview settings in-game! Simply open your overview settings, then drag and drop an icon into chat, and press Enter. If another pilot clicks the link, your overview will completely overwrite his/hers. The overview profiles are stored on the server, so these links can even be added to mails, bios, notepads, etc. and used later. Overview profiles are not "owned" by anyone, and once a profile is stored, anyone can access it given that they have the link. Please note that only default or saved tab presets can be shared.
-New overview tabs are now created by clicking a little icon to the right of the rightmost tab, similar to how internet browser tabs can be created.

One more thing: since this is a very new feature which includes changes to how we store overview settings on the server, we reserve the right to clean out all the overview profiles on Singularity if needed (we are not expecting this to be necessary right now, but it might happen).

If you have any questions or comments, or if you can find any bug in these features, please feel free to reply to this thread.

CCP Turtlepower
Team Pirate Unicorns

what does it actually share? only the overview tab and bracket profiles or also the other settings like priorities etc.

what does it actually share? only the overview tab and bracket profiles or also the other settings like priorities etc.

All... priorities, colors, blinking settings, groups, states, columns, pre/postfixes on ships, tab setup, tab presets used in the overview and other settings... should be all settings in the overview settings window.

I can see this being abused by people sharing the links as other things, and having settings that are totally messed up. Would not wanna be one to click a link that is supposed to be a contract or fleet, only to have it over-ride my overview with setting that will take me time to correct.

I don't post here much, but this brought me out of lurking...

Hey CCP, you have a perfectly cromulent system for how to share overviews already in game. MAKE IT EXACTLY LIKE THE SHARED FITS system. PRESTO, it's super simple to use, you already know how to code it, and everyone gets the features they wanted from it.

IE: instead of overwriting whatever your current overview is (seriously, this was your idea?), it opens the overview settings window and shows the new overviews' settings. (just like a fit) and then lets you name and save it to your list of overviews (just like fits).

PLEASE!!!!!!

The states are not changing (the presentation of them is, so it's more obvious that you are picking what to filter out).

When starting this, I thought we had to completely change the states, so you would pick what you wanted in your overview (example: war targets) rather than what you didn't want.
When looking better into it, we quickly ran into this case
- I want -5 dudes in my overview so I check them -> my corp mates that are -5 now all show in the overview, not what I want

So (at least for now) it's the same as before, sorry if that's not ideal for you

I can see this being abused by people sharing the links as other things, and having settings that are totally messed up. Would not wanna be one to click a link that is supposed to be a contract or fleet, only to have it over-ride my overview with setting that will take me time to correct.

All... priorities, colors, blinking settings, groups, states, columns, pre/postfixes on ships, tab setup, tab presets used in the overview and other settings... should be all settings in the overview settings window.

Please make sure that any default action (pressing Enter) is a negative (No), not a positive. As you may know, people don't read (ex. error messages, confirmation, warnings, wills, power of attorney, EULAs, etc.)

I'll check this out on the test server later but on the list of overview bugs that this does or does not fix.

Do these changes fix:

Pulling up the overview using a short cut allowed a person to change the settings but not save them. Will this fix clean up that issue.

While changing the whole overview is nice. This functionality misses out on the ability to add tab specific overview layouts as a reward for doing steps in the NPE.

Does this change clean up the tabs and generic layout conflicts in the settings tab? IE generic layouts do not populate the drop downs in the window until they are used in a saved layout.

I can see this being abused by people sharing the links as other things, and having settings that are totally messed up. Would not wanna be one to click a link that is supposed to be a contract or fleet, only to have it over-ride my overview with setting that will take me time to correct.

So many people who don't read the devposts:

Clicking the link doesn't auto apply the settings. It brings up a warning box you can't tell not to come up, that makes you confirm that you want it.

https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=4863625#post4863625

Let me look further into it when I get back from vacation

The states are not changing (the presentation of them is, so it's more obvious that you are picking what to filter out).

When starting this, I thought we had to completely change the states, so you would pick what you wanted in your overview (example: war targets) rather than what you didn't want.
When looking better into it, we quickly ran into this case
- I want -5 dudes in my overview so I check them -> my corp mates that are -5 now all show in the overview, not what I want

So (at least for now) it's the same as before, sorry if that's not ideal for you

I think it might have been a bit more appealing if these settings were imported/exported one tab at a time... and only if you have a tab free. Otherwise you are given the proposed prompt to back up that tab in case you prefer your old settings (of course it would give you the option of which tab to overwrite if all of your tabs are full).

I've also toyed with the idea that perhaps it might be a good idea to have a popup whenever you are aggressed by someone or something not already on your overview.

Once again, thanks to all of you for the feedback.



Importing an overview profile using this new method will not overwrite any previously saved tab presets (unless they have the same names - an issue we are currently looking into). This means that as long as you remember to save your presets before clicking on a shared overview profile link, you can simply load your saved presets back into any tab with just a few clicks afterwards, effectively mixing and matching two profiles.



That's a really great idea! We will definitely look into this soon :)

One more thing - we are looking into adding some kind of overview history feature, as that would address many concerns voiced in this thread. More details on this later.

When clicking an overview link, an un-suppressible modal window pops up to let you know exactly what is going on, and the overview will not be imported unless you click 'Yes'.

Please NOT MODAL.

Yes it needs a confirmation, but you've been spending time over the last couple of years removing all the needlessly modal dialogs!

I'm sat on a gate, with not much going on. I'm reading mail and just as I'm clicking on a link, local goes up and I need to react - unfortunately I've got this stupid modal window to deal with.

Or assuming I'm only dealing with this whilst perfectly safe, I might click a link in a chat window - and have the confirmation window appear. However before I click yes, I might want to just ask the person in the chat window another question...

Another thought on this - I don't believe there's currently any method of configuring your overview whilst docked? What happens if I click a link in a chat or EveMail whilst docked?

The states are not changing (the presentation of them is, so it's more obvious that you are picking what to filter out).

When starting this, I thought we had to completely change the states, so you would pick what you wanted in your overview (example: war targets) rather than what you didn't want.
When looking better into it, we quickly ran into this case
- I want -5 dudes in my overview so I check them -> my corp mates that are -5 now all show in the overview, not what I want

So (at least for now) it's the same as before, sorry if that's not ideal for you

can the settings be per character instead of per account?

Does the new import/export saving also save the customisable corp/alliance tag input boxes?

I can't figure out how to load an existing preset.

It used to be that you right click on the settings icon in the overview settings window. If I have a bracket preset, how do I load it to modify it?

Right click on a overview tab to load a preset into that tab.

I agree with others, there definitely needs to be a preview option first before having to accept or dismiss the Overview Links along with a 'Revert' option.

Having to post your existing Overview settings as links contained within an Eve Mail or Notepad and then having to search for those, click and accept them just to revert your Overview back to it's original state is counter-productive, slow and tedious.

Also like the idea of being able to link a single Overview Tab.



DMC

Thie question has been asked before but never got an answer as far as I can see:

Will we be able to add more than 5 tabs to our overview or will it still be limited to 5 tabs?

Are we able to bracket moons in space again?

We are not changing this part of the overview at this time, sorry.

i am pretty sure there is a shortcut for that? is it gone?

i am pretty sure there is a shortcut for that? is it gone?

Are we able to bracket moons in space again?

1) What if we could save sets of overview tabs and browse through the sets, and clicking a link added a set? Give them names, and then they would simply appear in the background, with some non-modal notification that "overview set 'LOL n00b" has just been added." Even if the modal dialog stays, I would love to be able to load my overview in sets of tabs.

2) I like the idea that some sort of notification would appear that you were being attacked. I initially thought, "just put them on the current overview tab, flashing red!" but there are some weird edge cases there (person gets attacked at the same time that he switches tabs?) so maybe that one is best served by some modal/centered-on-screen/otherwise hard-to-ignore notification.

We have now added a new tab to the overview settings - History. Here you can see your last 15 loaded overview profiles, and revert back to them easily. We also added a 'Restore' button to the bottom of this window, clicking it will simply undo the last overview profile import. Please update your Singularity client and try it out!

We have now added a new tab to the overview settings - History. Here you can see your last 15 loaded overview profiles, and revert back to them easily. We also added a 'Restore' button to the bottom of this window, clicking it will simply undo the last overview profile import. Please update your Singularity client and try it out!

i would like to see the ability to use different color text for the tab headers ie red text is my pvp tab, green or blue been my friendlies etc and also color in the ships / ticker tabs, would also like to be able to more than 5 tabs.

You can already do that pretty easily. Once the new sharing mechanic is live contact me and I'll send you my setup if you wish.

i already use colors in the overview i use (sara's pack) but this is quite tedious having to type it in each time, would be much easier if ccp gave us a color text option box like we have in the background / colortag options etc

also no offence intended but i would not use an overview from someone i did not know

Let me remind you of the fact that you wouldn't see anyone in your overview, seeing as you just clicked the overview which only has an asteroids tab spread by the enemy fleet.. The modal window just saved you

Ugh, modal dialogs. Even when they're necessary, they're awful.

It isn't necessary for this to be modal. It's perfectly possible UI design for the confirmation window for this to be non-modal.

This is CCP slipping back into bad UI design - which I'd hoped was a thing of the past :-(

good job guys!

presets:
- - entity-blank
- - - filteredStates
- []
- - groups
- - 1300

What the hell is a modal screen?

And UI went back to stone age even in Crius. The Industry UI & Lists cannot be copied, the window cannot be merged with others, lacks any options whatsoever and take up half your screen.