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Jerick Ludhowe	Posted - 2006.07.09 14:39:00 - [61] I personally feel that all level 4 missions should be restricted to low sec only. As it stands far to many people still sit in high sec farming the same missions over and over. There is very little risk if done right and the rewards are in my opinion far too high. I also think that low sec mining should be made more profitable. Ideally what they should do is spawn some bistot and arkanor in some lowsec systems and have the respawn location be randomized.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.07.09 14:39:00 - [62] Originally by: Jim McGregor They wont be fixing anything for a month though. Vacations. I know... I think I'm going to be very rich if I can be bothered to keep doing this
TheNecromancer	Posted - 2006.07.09 14:44:00 - [63] I personally feel that all level 4 missions should be restricted to low sec only) do you really think people would move to low sec to do them then ? because I think mission runners would just leave EVE then..I know I would..
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.07.09 14:46:00 - [64] Originally by: TheNecromancer I personally feel that all level 4 missions should be restricted to low sec only) do you really think people would move to low sec to do them then ? because I think mission runners would just leave EVE then..I know I would.. What exactly do you do in Eve? Just run missions? Never visit low sec? Buy yourself a shiny new mod so you have even less risk when running the same missions over again? Run the missions some more, buy another shiny new mod? I'm suprised you haven't left already tbh
TheNecromancer	Posted - 2006.07.09 14:48:00 - [65] I pay to be here too..so my vote count as much as your does..
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.07.09 14:49:00 - [66] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 09/07/2006 14:50:17 Originally by: TheNecromancer I personally feel that all level 4 missions should be restricted to low sec only) do you really think people would move to low sec to do them then ? because I think mission runners would just leave EVE then..I know I would.. You could still continue doing lvl 3 missions. Nothing wrong with making the most profitable missions a little dangerous as well. I would actually like them to be made even more profitable, because pirates could jump in at any time to kill you if they were in low sec. For me, it sounds exciting and fun, if the rewards are worth the risk. Sitting in completely safe empire space doing level 4 missions with a ship all pimped up with faction mods (since you know you are protected from other players) are kind of screwed up. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.07.09 14:50:00 - [67] Originally by: TheNecromancer I pay to be here too..so my vote count as much as your does.. I just asked Also, you have an equal right to play the game as anyone else. That doesn't mean it should be moulded around you. MMOs are about balance, and at the moment, this is so far out of whack it isn't even funny.
TheNecromancer	Posted - 2006.07.09 14:52:00 - [68] there is nothing left in empire than doing missions..you guys took care of getting the rest nerffed out to low sec...so yes..I am doing mostly mission all the time I play eve. but that does not mean that I dont think some missions are giving to much..actual I have never understood that you are able to "farm" a mission..reduce the time to 6-7 hours..not this several days.. so yes to some missions need to be more "balanced" (nice word for nerf)
Soulita	Posted - 2006.07.09 15:01:00 - [69] Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: TheNecromancer I personally feel that all level 4 missions should be restricted to low sec only) do you really think people would move to low sec to do them then ? because I think mission runners would just leave EVE then..I know I would.. What exactly do you do in Eve? Just run missions? Never visit low sec? Buy yourself a shiny new mod so you have even less risk when running the same missions over again? Run the missions some more, buy another shiny new mod? I'm suprised you haven't left already tbh Erm Hippo, most EvE players hang in High-Sec If they are having fun do you realy want to tell them they shouldnt, and should leave instead? I grew up in low-sec and 0.0 (Syndicate) and live mainly in high-sec now. My 0.0 times were ok, but I never liked alliance politics. Currently I prefer alliance-politics-free high-sec space to 0.0. This post you are making here leaves me with the impression you are for whatever reason strictly against any fun or good profit opportunities in high-sec empire. We can argue forever here, but I do not agree with you on that. Oh, and concerning the mission: I never farmed the worlds collide mission and never will, farming is no fun to me even if it pays. If the mission is too easy for you in a cerb, then take a ship in which the mission is harder - and have fun instead of farming Thanks btw for the typo hint, fixed
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.07.09 15:09:00 - [70] This is genuine interest here, not an attempt to knock you for what you do or enjoy: Given that there is no risk for a competent player with a good ship in high sec space and you have no attrition rate, all you have is the ability to buy more junk to make your play even less risky. So: What do you do with all your ISK? At what point will you quit? What do you get out of mission whoring? Do you find repeating the same misisons over and over again fulfilling or fun? When do you have enough ISK? Does a lack of risk make it fun? Do you realise that huge amounts of ISK entering the eve economy without any form of attrition causes big problems?
Hellspawn01	Posted - 2006.07.09 15:19:00 - [71] Originally by: HippoKing What do you do with all your ISK? Save it up for expensive things. Originally by: HippoKing At what point will you quit? When my fun is nerfed beyond anything that is fun cuz it turns into work. Originally by: HippoKing What do you get out of mission whoring? Faction ships/ISK/named loot/rarely faction mods Originally by: HippoKing Do you find repeating the same misisons over and over again fulfilling or fun? Depends on the mission. Some missions are fun if you use a AF to kill several BSs or the like (the blockade/the score) Originally by: HippoKing When do you have enough ISK? You can answer that question yourself Originally by: HippoKing Does a lack of risk make it fun? There is always risk to loose your ship to NPCs/gankers/human stupidity Originally by: HippoKing Do you realise that huge amounts of ISK entering the eve economy without any form of attrition causes big problems? A dev once said that the ISK thats coming from macro miners doesnt hurt the ecconomy so why should the ISK coming from mission runners hurt it? Ship lovers click here
Soulita	Posted - 2006.07.09 15:22:00 - [72] Edited by: Soulita on 09/07/2006 15:23:11 Originally by: HippoKing This is genuine interest here, not an attempt to knock you for what you do or enjoy: Given that there is no risk for a competent player with a good ship in high sec space and you have no attrition rate, all you have is the ability to buy more junk to make your play even less risky. So: What do you do with all your ISK? At what point will you quit? What do you get out of mission whoring? Do you find repeating the same misisons over and over again fulfilling or fun? When do you have enough ISK? Does a lack of risk make it fun? Do you realise that huge amounts of ISK entering the eve economy without any form of attrition causes big problems? Hippo, I played Elite in the days long past... I joined EvE because the devs said their main inspiration for EvE was Elite. Elite was a combat/trading space sim, and even though you could even SAVE the game, many people (not just me) had large amounts of fun playing it. I have no problems whatsoever with risk, but you need to realize there is different playstyles. EvE would be a very poor game if it would only support one Playstyle, I for my part believe if that ever happened EvE would probably die. I think it would be a good step forward if the 0.0 population would stop trying to get all the fun, isk, features etc. made exclusively for them. Let the majority of players, which happen to hang in high-sec have their share of the game as well - is that too much to ask?
Khanias	Posted - 2006.07.09 15:25:00 - [73] Dear lord Hippo-loser, over half of the posts in this thread are YOURS. If it offends you to be able to do Worlds Collide in high sec I have an idea for you.... DON'T DO IT, maybe then you won't feel obliged to post 4 times in a row about what an outrage it is. I wish they would ban you from the forums for a week just so we wouldn't have to see your spam in every damn thread.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.07.09 15:25:00 - [74] Originally by: Hellspawn01 stuff First: doesn't it all feel totally pointless if you do nothing with the ISK but more of the same? Second: why is killing BSs with an AF more fun than using a BS? There is a fraction of the risk (they can't hit you for love nor money) and it takes longer. Hit orbit, turn on guns. Wait. Third: the whole point in this thread is the lack of gankers or any risk BUT human stupidity. Fourth: Macrominers don't generate ISK.
Hellspawn01	Posted - 2006.07.09 15:25:00 - [75] What has an empire pilot that a 0.0 pilot doesnt have 10 times more? Ship lovers click here
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.07.09 15:32:00 - [76] Originally by: Soulita more stuff I am not trying to remove fun, I am trying to balance reward against risk. Personally, I find the risk in eve the fun part, but I guess some people are happy just looking at the daily grind of wallet++ for no real reason. When I started this thread, I had no idea the mission runners found this mission more fun than any others. If that is the case, I would fully support there being seperate versions of this with different profits (though the same NPCs) in high sec and low sec. Either that, or edit the bounties of all types of this mission. Doesn't change the level of fun, but bring the profit in line.
Infinity Ziona	Posted - 2006.07.09 15:33:00 - [77] Edited by: Infinity Ziona on 09/07/2006 15:33:25 Originally by: HippoKing This is genuine interest here, not an attempt to knock you for what you do or enjoy: Given that there is no risk for a competent player with a good ship in high sec space and you have no attrition rate, all you have is the ability to buy more junk to make your play even less risky. So: What do you do with all your ISK? At what point will you quit? What do you get out of mission whoring? Do you find repeating the same misisons over and over again fulfilling or fun? When do you have enough ISK? Does a lack of risk make it fun? Do you realise that huge amounts of ISK entering the eve economy without any form of attrition causes big problems? I bought some battleships, covert ops and some smaller ships and modules, saved the named PvP gear and I plan to grief some newbie corporations soon. Thank you Worlds Collide, thank you!. Infinity Ziona
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.07.09 15:37:00 - [78] Originally by: Hellspawn01 What has an empire pilot that a 0.0 pilot doesnt have 10 times more? Safety Originally by: Hellspawn01 Btw, my definition of fun is different that yours so its pointless to discuss it with you cuz doesnt like other opinions. Why can't you discuss it? This is a forum, its called General Discussion. We've already ascertained that our views are different. I'm interested in how, and although it seems you don't give a ****, I am interested in the overall game, rather than my own little corner of it. Maybe if you would like to share, I could learn a bit about the mentality of the ultra-carebear (not intended as offensive, just a description: those who never consider low sec or PvP at all). Then you wouldn't have to reply to my threads with the "you are trying to ruin my fun!" arguments, because I could have thought of them already.
Semai	Posted - 2006.07.09 15:37:00 - [79] Originally by: Khanias Dear lord Hippo-loser, over half of the posts in this thread are YOURS. If it offends you to be able to do Worlds Collide in high sec I have an idea for you.... DON'T DO IT, maybe then you won't feel obliged to post 4 times in a row about what an outrage it is. I wish they would ban you from the forums for a week just so we wouldn't have to see your spam in every damn thread. /signed
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.07.09 15:41:00 - [80] Originally by: Khanias Dear lord Hippo-loser I don't know about you, but when I read a reply where the first few words are an insult, I'm sure I'm doing something right. </smug bastard mode> Originally by: Khanias over half of the posts in this thread are YOURS In other words, I give a **. Also, what else am I supposed to do while doing it... the mission isn't very interesting Originally by:** Khanias If it offends you to be able to do Worlds Collide in high sec I have an idea for you.... DON'T DO IT, maybe then you won't feel obliged to post 4 times in a row about what an outrage it is. I think you have missed the point. My beef is not with me being able to, or not being able to do it. It is with how it affects overall balance. Originally by: Khanias I wish they would ban you from the forums for a week just so we wouldn't have to see your spam in every damn thread. They have banned me on a few occaisions. On the other hand, you're the one trolling, so maybe if anyone is going to get banned, it will be you
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.07.09 15:42:00 - [81] Originally by: Semai Originally by: Khanias Dear lord Hippo-loser, over half of the posts in this thread are YOURS. If it offends you to be able to do Worlds Collide in high sec I have an idea for you.... DON'T DO IT, maybe then you won't feel obliged to post 4 times in a row about what an outrage it is. I wish they would ban you from the forums for a week just so we wouldn't have to see your spam in every damn thread. /signed Yeah, so we could have more posts like yours with no facts, off-topic and the general lazy /signed when you think something is in favor of your own playing style. HippoKing posts alot, but he doesnt spam alot. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Hailen	Posted - 2006.07.09 16:04:00 - [82] so, in short, you are complaining that doing missions in a Gist fitted Cerberus (1 bil+) is too easy... Well, for those of us not so rich Worlds Collide is not that easy. and it never crossed my mind until now to farm missions. good to know. Maybe you should go with that Cerberus in 0.0 and have fun there.
Kira Natel	Posted - 2006.07.09 16:07:00 - [83] Hippofarming ftw! "Yes, nerf/ move to low sec but wait til I run it a few more times". Farming is rather lame. Not much better than Macro'ers. You're not running a macro while posting so much here on the forums? I think some players thought pretty highly of you until this post.
Khanias	Posted - 2006.07.09 16:20:00 - [84] Quote: My beef is not with me being able to, or not being able to do it. It is with how it affects overall balance. I love it, Mr Self-Righteous here is so concerned about balance, he is doing us a favor... so concerned about the delicate balance: Quote: I ran it yesterday night and this morning... As soon as the server comes up, I'm going to do it again. So on one hand you are so concerned about the balance and how this 1 mission is so out of balance it requires a crusade of postings by you to get fixed but on the other you have no problem farming the hell out of it. Quote: Personally, I find the risk in eve the fun part, but I guess some people are happy just looking at the daily grind of wallet++ for no real reason. Hypocrite or Attention *****? I think I'd go with both for you Hippo. Obviously you love wallet++ or you wouldn't be planning on farming the mission so much especially since you consider it boring and without risk. But also lets consider how the mighty Hippoking came upon this mission, he who finds World's Collide boring and without challenage certainly must hate the lesser missions... So after a long hard day of doing risky things and taking risks, Hippoking comes back to Empire(Hippo carries all his loot in a T1 hauler because otherwise its not risky enough and the only fun comes from risk) and after putting his loot up for sale he decides to take the biggest risk yet... lets see what mission I get from this cute agent(because we know Hippo would never run missions in a 0.5 system for long... its not risky enough and he needs the risk, without risk he is forced to post) and imagine his shock and horror when he gets the easiest mission CCP ever created. But against his own wishes the evil pirates force him to farm them risk free even though he doesnt farm for money, he is above that, he lives on RISK!
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.07.09 16:26:00 - [85] Originally by: Khanias So on one hand you are so concerned about the balance and how this 1 mission is so out of balance it requires a crusade of postings by you to get fixed but on the other you have no problem farming the hell out of it. Wouldnt you? And why does he even bring attention to this mission if all he is interested in is making money? He must be really stupid, eh? Sigh. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Bean Doodle	Posted - 2006.07.09 16:27:00 - [86] anti-nerf the lvl 4 spawns, make em 27times harder and implement a system for sharing standings and rewards in a gang. then do something about the stupid way NPCs pick their targets, mebbe like a POS **** should i know. and buff stabs now hows that for controversy!? --- Bean Doodle, WIN's private Spammer, Whiner, Begger, Commmon-Enemy, L33t-Sp33ching-teen and POS suicider.
spurious signal	Posted - 2006.07.09 16:53:00 - [87] So what? You know that the mission farmers will always find something to farm. Today it may be WC, tomorrow it may be something else. So what? If you nerf (balance) all missions until they're all exactly equal in payout then there will be no variety or fun for those people who don't farm the missions with 10's of agents and downtime respawn abuse, they just do them one at a time in the order the come with one agent. Easy solution is to stop the farming of ALL missions by eliminating the downtime respawn.
Mrs Miyagi	Posted - 2006.07.09 17:02:00 - [88] I really am wondering why HippoKing posted this. It seems his only intention, perhaps as usual, is to knock down anyone with an opinion contrary to his.
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.07.09 17:21:00 - [89] Originally by: Lardarz B'stard Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Jim McGregor Why does it need nerfing? It is more profitable and reliable than 0.0 ratting, without any of the risk. so what? you only get it once in a blue moon I've had it offered to me over a dozen times in Motsu.
Tachy	Posted - 2006.07.09 17:22:00 - [90] Originally by: Khanias Quote: [...] But also lets consider how the mighty Hippoking came upon this mission, he who finds World's Collide boring and without challenage certainly must hate the lesser missions... So after a long hard day of doing risky things and taking risks, Hippoking comes back to Empire(Hippo carries all his loot in a T1 hauler because otherwise its not risky enough and the only fun comes from risk) and after putting his loot up for sale he decides to take the biggest risk yet... lets see what mission I get from this cute agent(because we know Hippo would never run missions in a 0.5 system for long... its not risky enough and he needs the risk, without risk he is forced to post) and imagine his shock and horror when he gets the easiest mission CCP ever created. But against his own wishes the evil pirates force him to farm them risk free even though he doesnt farm for money, he is above that, he lives on RISK! laughs I think you're not far from the truth behind this thread. --==*-- Even with nougat, you can have a perfect moment.

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