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Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 3450	Posted - 2014.08.01 22:50:00 - [61] - Quote Chewytowel Haklar wrote: I'm really not feeling the love. :( Nobody loves me, I have no friends, and I live in a van down by the river. When I do approach the game from a fun first perspective I usually just fit some ships, rush into faction warfare sites or some other places and look for things to shoot without any real other goal. Though again, that death mechanic is a tad frustrating to deal with, but anyway a part of the game. I play games as an escape, not as a way to really compete or show off achievements. Everyone has their own motivations of course when playing EVE or any other game, and people come and go as well. I just don't see the point to continue playing at this time, or rather paying to play. Glad you all love the game and have found something(s) about it you truly enjoy. as for the death of ships, buy in batches for motivation, find something, go kill a goon , or a devil, or a testie(this one is rather fun), get a role player to break character something, anything. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything
Ima Wreckyou The Conference Elite CODE. 66	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:07:00 - [62] - Quote OP, did you really just cry because you can't solo compete with big alliances which consists of thousands of players many as new as you are? the Code ALWAYS wins
Chewytowel Haklar Sextans Tech Brothers of Tangra 66	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:10:00 - [63] - Quote Ima Wreckyou wrote: OP, did you really just cry because you can't solo compete with big alliances which consists of thousands of players many as new as you are? Yes :( I can't find the I WIN button.
Unsuccessful At Everything The Troll Bridge 16090	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:11:00 - [64] - Quote Chewytowel Haklar wrote: Yes :( I can't find the I WIN button. Its next to the Esc key.. its labeled F1. Apply liberally and win. *Since the cessation of their usefulness is imminent, may I appropriate your belongings?*
Celthric Kanerian Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation 24	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:23:00 - [65] - Quote Thank you for trying EVE! A lot of people nowadays in the public thinks: "Meh, just another space game." but you actually took some time to try it out which I'm thankful for, I may not agree on anything you said but nonetheless did you spend some of your time trying it out.. I'm sorry that the game didn't appeal to you. Regards Celthric
Grim Hood Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 20	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:34:00 - [66] - Quote Chewytowel Haklar's Wall of Text crit's your eyes for 9,000,000,000 damage
DownTwisTeD KaMiKaZes 8	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:41:00 - [67] - Quote Tom Gerard wrote: You have to be really smart and really charismatic to do well in this game. . Yea, I did..
Noriko Mai 1404	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:46:00 - [68] - Quote WTB Goonswarm leadership. I have 1000AUR!!!1
Dantivio The Congregation Cult of War 28	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:49:00 - [69] - Quote This only requires one response, "git gud"
Clint Beastwood Why Bother Inc 0	Posted - 2014.08.01 23:52:00 - [70] - Quote Not got time for this crap. I just play... Play away, play, play away, play, play away, play away, play away.. Anyone remember that? Ok bye......
baltec1 Bat Country Goonswarm Federation 12582	Posted - 2014.08.02 00:03:00 - [71] - Quote Propaganda The brave Newbee Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship
Inxentas Ultramar Ultramar Independent Contracting 1409	Posted - 2014.08.02 00:17:00 - [72] - Quote Chewytowel Haklar wrote: But what is it all for? The whole idea of a sandbox game is to figure that one out for yourself. I too get the most kick out of PVP. But how to give that purpose? Well, there are many ways to go about that. I myself am a social animal in MMO's, I can't stand these games with XP progression systems that guide you on rails and pretty much tell you to ignore other players untill you are ready to farm the endgame bosses, or whatever drops your fancy endgame crap. It's the social interaction and simple cameraderie that makes it all worth it to me. Or corp is on the brink of it's second anniversary, we're not exactly old farts by comparison. But we did stake a claim proportionate to our size and capabilities, and while the tides of the sea move the bigger fish off course we had to adapt from time to time, but those ever-changing conditions and political shifts is what seperate Eve from pvp-on-rails systems where you can "own" a piece of land in name only. I once traded land (read: space assets) in turn for a military strike (read: military service). I mean how feudal can you get in a video game? Which other MMO does this, and with space ships no less? We all sucked at PVP at two months. Maybe we acted confident but we all got our salvage handed to us by more experienced players. And if you are not getting wtfpwnd from time to time, you know you are not playing Eve but just farming it. If you want to get good at PVP you are going to have to roll with the punches and take your losses in stride. Knowing your game is worth a lot though, not only because you can fight for your own purposes, but people will respect your willingness to protect your investments with nail and tooth. Once you have some backers, allies and trusted equals, and are no longer fighting for "teh lulz" but to protect what you hold, you will find out what it's all for.
Cancel Align NOW Imperial Shipment Amarr Empire 60	Posted - 2014.08.02 00:21:00 - [73] - Quote My lore may be in correct, but I seem to remember that the first ever titan killed in the game was de-cloaked by a newbie in a frigate in a small "renter" corp in a big alliance.
Careby 214	Posted - 2014.08.02 02:06:00 - [74] - Quote I remember having a bout of severe depression when I was about two months old in real life. My goal of ruling the world seemed so far off at the time I briefly considered suicide. Sarcasm is OP
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 3454	Posted - 2014.08.02 02:22:00 - [75] - Quote Careby wrote: two months old in real life. you remember when you were two months old in real life. "Confirming EVE is hot, batshit crazy, and puts out." -Omar Alharazaad "CAKE CANNOT HOLD UP TO BEING A CHARACTER DAMNIT." --áUnsuccessful At Everything
Herzog Wolfhammer Sigma Special Tactics Group 5178	Posted - 2014.08.02 02:42:00 - [76] - Quote Chewytowel Haklar wrote: Wall of text hits your browser, crushing the hell out of it . Dude. By whose standards are you playing this game? OK so you don't want to min/max it. Great! We have enough autising going on around here anyway. But you seem to be operating under some kind of standard. Like there's some need to be playing a certain way and doing certain things and achieving things that for the most part you lack the skills to do. So what. You are new. And if you are on some track that you think you have to rack up skills and do all kinds of grinding "before" you can play the game, then you already screwed the pooch on getting Eve and you should go. The game is open ended. I have been at it since 2006 and still have yet to see more than 30 percent of the content of this game. It's too big for that. And who cares anyway? I don't. So here is what you do: nothing. Not like, don't play it, but stop thinking there is something you have to do, or should be doing, because either you can't do it or lack the skills to do it. You are obviously here because you like spaceships or something. That's all you need. The game is so open ended there's no limit to how you can find ways to enjoy it. If I put out a dialog on "how I play Eve" at least half the bittervets would die laughing if they read it. Half the noobs would go running and screaming back to WoW. But I still have a good time and have been enjoying it since 2006. So find a way to have some fun, forget the "stuff" and "da rules" of how you should play or what you should accomplish according to other players. Set your own goals and have fun and the more it seems unattainable, then the more challenge you are getting for the cost of your sub. And that's a good thing. Bring back DEEEEP Space!
Val'Dore PlanetCorp InterStellar 713	Posted - 2014.08.02 03:40:00 - [77] - Quote Barzai Mekhar wrote: The stuff of someone that played two months, dabbled in everything but didn't take the time to get to know anything in detail? Are you guys so desperately in need of rookie ships? Have you seen Trit prices lately? SJD I invented Tiericide
Yang Aurilen The Mjolnir Bloc The Bloc 284	Posted - 2014.08.02 04:03:00 - [78] - Quote Tweek Etimua wrote: Whipple Shai wrote: Your issue is you think you have to do all the things you mentioned to have fun in the game and I submit you are wrong. I started playing MMO's with UO 18 years ago and in each of them I thought I had to accomplish some task or I wasn't enjoying the game. Fortunately about 1.75 yrs ago I "graduated" to Eve and finally realized something. The things you mention aren't the goal of playing a game. Fun is the goal. If you concentrate on the fun; the things you mention suddenly become less of a distraction. They become part of the game rather THAN the game. Best thing you can do is find a new player friendly, null based Corp. Get the hell out of empire because it really is safer in a sov holding corp/alliance. Ask nicely for them to show you the ropes, stop whining, never whine again and forget you ever made this post. Whip Fun is relative. Fun is just a buzzword. You heard it here folks. People don't actually have fun when playing any games at all NOPE never.
Tweek Etimua The Paragons 52	Posted - 2014.08.02 04:37:00 - [79] - Quote Yang Aurilen wrote: Tweek Etimua wrote: Whipple Shai wrote: Your issue is you think you have to do all the things you mentioned to have fun in the game and I submit you are wrong. I started playing MMO's with UO 18 years ago and in each of them I thought I had to accomplish some task or I wasn't enjoying the game. Fortunately about 1.75 yrs ago I "graduated" to Eve and finally realized something. The things you mention aren't the goal of playing a game. Fun is the goal. If you concentrate on the fun; the things you mention suddenly become less of a distraction. They become part of the game rather THAN the game. Best thing you can do is find a new player friendly, null based Corp. Get the hell out of empire because it really is safer in a sov holding corp/alliance. Ask nicely for them to show you the ropes, stop whining, never whine again and forget you ever made this post. Whip Fun is relative. Fun is just a buzzword. You heard it here folks. People don't actually have fun when playing any games at all NOPE never. That's not what i meant. What i meant was in regards to his premise "Your issue is you think you have to do all the things you mentioned to have fun in the game and I submit you are wrong" To say that thge reason some one isn't having fun is because they don't know what fun is silly.
Hasikan Miallok Republic University Minmatar Republic 1053	Posted - 2014.08.02 04:55:00 - [80] - Quote Fun ? We are not here to have fun. Do you think this is some sort of game ? Get all thoughts of fun out of your head right now, EVE is serious business.
Sibyyl Gallente Federation 4514	Posted - 2014.08.02 05:03:00 - [81] - Quote Am I "too late" to this thread to haz your stuff? The Muppets: P+¦pc++rn (thanks Ria!)
Darth Terona Black Rebel Rifter Club The Devil's Tattoo 6	Posted - 2014.08.02 05:18:00 - [82] - Quote Sorry to hear that. I am powerful. As a hunter as a solo player. I live for the fight. Win or loose My power is freedom. Having been a cog in a nullsec alliance, I can tell you there is no true power to be had there But that's my interpretation of power. My freedom. You don't need a lot of skills to be good at pvp. Just get out there and do it. You will grow in actual skill about as fast as you grow in sp. the combination of both make you good at pvp. As for pve. You'll have to look to someone else for guidence there
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 262	Posted - 2014.08.02 05:52:00 - [83] - Quote Not gonna ask for stuff. I have my own. OP, don't let yourself become discouraged so easily. EVE is a rough place with a pretty steep learning curve. There is no 'I win' button, you can't gravy train til max level, there will be no killing trees west of midgaard to PL you. ISK and stuff comes and goes, what's more important is to enjoy whatever it is you're doing.... even if you're failing at it. Just try to learn from your mistakes whenever possible. If someone stomps you in pvp, talk to them, maybe they'll be willing to share fitting and tactical advice with you. Make connections with other people, even if it is as enemies. An active enemy can be as much fun to play with as an Ally. The other players are what makes EVE worth playing, without them it's just a framework full of tools and pretty pictures... with some fairly tedious PVE activities thrown in. Do some research, find a direction you'd like to go and make your own path that way. Just don't let your mind be polluted by some notion of an 'endgame'.
Big Lynx Destructive Mechanics Quam'Nocent 564	Posted - 2014.08.02 07:01:00 - [84] - Quote Free stuffz?!?! sniffing
Mallak Azaria GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 5782	Posted - 2014.08.02 07:07:00 - [85] - Quote ITT a renter is complaining about nullsec This post was lovingly crafted by a member of the Goonwaffe Posting Cabal & proud member of the popular gay hookup site, somethingawful.com
Kalishka Ashkulf BUMP POW 40	Posted - 2014.08.02 10:04:00 - [86] - Quote OP, there are plenty of avenues to mingle with players who share your interests. There is the Forums, of course. Joining a Corp, finding people in local. However, I might suggest you search for chat channels. I'm pretty sure a Science & Industry one exists. Get talking to a few likeminded people, share ideas, have a few laughs. Get your face known to the right people and see what happens. As for "too late to the party", I have to be blunt, that's utter rubbish! I imagine you have beg goals, like building a Titan, or a POS, or something like that? Well, that's good, keep that goal in mind. However, don't dismiss it simply because it seems so far away to achieve. Instead, there is plenty of room in the mean time for smaller goals. For example, an early goal could be to make a successful profit on manufacturing a small/cheap t1 BPO. Second goal could be to max out the material/time efficiency of that BPO. Third, Successfully print and sell T2 copies of that to other people. Whiile these goals seem small and trite, they do add up in the long run, giving you the experience that only practice can give you. I too enjoy Science & Industry. I also enjoy PVP. Now, while I can safely say I'm competent at S&I, I suck so hard at PVP. But you know what, sod it, I dust myself off and try again anyway. Why? Because of 3 things: 1) It's fun. Fine, I suck, but it's fun 2) I know that practice makes perfect(ish). With enough practice and broken ships, I'll know much more about the craft of PVP 3) I have some great people I fly with. With the S&I side of things, I have mapped out a few short-mid term goals of my own, which I am enjoying meeting and working toward. With these goals mapped out, I have estimated how they could be beneficial. Now OP, Instead of asking the rest of the playerbase if you're too late, I want to ask you a question. What is your goal? If you had to describe your niche, what would it be OP?
PotatoOverdose Handsome Millionaire Playboys Mordus Angels 1955	Posted - 2014.08.02 10:12:00 - [87] - Quote Dude....you joined a renter alliance....what did you expect? To my knowledge, no renter has ever achieved anything of note, renting is like the shortcut to total mediocrity.
Gully Alex Foyle Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders 1706	Posted - 2014.08.02 10:19:00 - [88] - Quote It has been noted before that in 99% of all videogames you are 'THE HERO!!!'. Except that, like all the other players, you're just a nerd with too much time to spare and gullible enough to believe in the illusion that the game designers created. In EVE, you're just a nerd like all the others, period. Except that you CAN actually become a more 'powerful' nerd. Unless you're so gullible that you think the other nerds will just step aside and bow to you because you're the chosen special snowflake. EVE Online: Death-o-meter
J'Poll CDG Playgrounds 4280	Posted - 2014.08.02 10:37:00 - [89] - Quote Chewytowel Haklar wrote: Stuff. Holy batman, what a wall of text If you are leaving, those posts should be in OOPE. Bye. Personal channel: *Crazy Dutch Guy* Ever wanted to PvP but can't find people to fly with. Look no further and this chat: Redemption Road
Omar Alharazaad Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 263	Posted - 2014.08.02 10:38:00 - [90] - Quote While you may not be 'the hero' in eve, even the most destitute and downtrodden capsuleer is far better off than say, a warp technician on a gank catalyst. Loss can be frustrating, but it could be a heck of a lot worse.

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