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korrey	Posted - 2006.07.10 17:48:00 - [1] Well im seriously thinking about getting a Machariel (sp?). I know I know 'Just set it up like a tempest' but id like to see some personal setups from other players. And maybe some slight debating like using 650 II AC's over another type. Funny thing is I dont think I can find one on the market and even if I could it would probably hit my wallet hard.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.07.10 17:50:00 - [2] dual 425mm II x 6 True Sansha Heavy Nos x 2 Gist MWD x 1 Domi Web x 1 Domi Disruptor x 1 True Sansha Heavy Cap Booster x 1 Hypnos Multispec x 1 Large B-Type Rep x 1 Large C-Type Rep x 1 Internal DC x 1 A-Type EANM x 2-3 Domi Gyrostab II x 1-2 TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust - Suvetar, care to confirm these rumours about you being an unstoppable sex machine? LOL -Suvetar
Mo Steel	Posted - 2006.07.10 17:51:00 - [3] Better idea - give me your money please. ;)
Wodin Drukvik	Posted - 2006.07.10 17:51:00 - [4] You forgot the silk handkerchief to cry into when it finally pops, Sarmaul.
korrey	Posted - 2006.07.10 17:53:00 - [5] Edited by: korrey on 10/07/2006 17:54:06 Well ive got all that except the Domination MWD and the second Domination damage mod. (Actually ive got a sansha's damage mod so I could use that.) Would dual 650's be better? Otherwise the setup seems sound. Except why the jammer? Its got me stumped. One Hypnos multispec still isnt very good odds at jamming your target.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.07.10 17:54:00 - [6] Originally by: Wodin Drukvik You forgot the silk handkerchief to cry into when it finally pops, Sarmaul. If you're gonna fly a pimp ship, you need to pimp it properly. Imagine an episode of Pimp My Ride where the exterier was sprayed 5 different colours, pin striping, 18" jewel-plated rims, etc. Then you open the door and find stock fittings. Faction ships don't deserve stock fittings - the deserve as many 9" LCD screens as you can fit, a built-in laptop, some useless accessories that don't actually do anything and a sound system that deafens you the moment you turn it on, regardless of the volume level :P TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust - Suvetar, care to confirm these rumours about you being an unstoppable sex machine? LOL -Suvetar
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.07.10 17:55:00 - [7] Originally by: korrey Edited by: korrey on 10/07/2006 17:54:06 Well ive got all that except the Domination MWD and the second Domination damage mod. (Actually ive got a sansha's damage mod so I could use that.) Would dual 650's be better? Otherwise the setup seems sound. Except why the jammer? Its got me stumped. One Hypnos multispec still isnt very good odds at jamming your target. IIRC dual 650mms don't fit with the MWD (if they do then fit those). As for the multispec, a chance of jamming is better than no chance of jamming. TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust - Suvetar, care to confirm these rumours about you being an unstoppable sex machine? LOL -Suvetar
zoturi	Posted - 2006.07.10 17:59:00 - [8] drop 1 heavy nos to 19km med nos, and have 2 core x-type large reps, about 400m each
Mila Prestoc	Posted - 2006.07.10 17:59:00 - [9] Originally by: Wodin Drukvik You forgot the silk handkerchief to cry into when it finally pops, Sarmaul. If you arn't going to pimp it then just look at the Tempest setup threads and fit an extra gyro or damage control in the extra low. (or stab if your so inclined) Originally by: korrey Edited by: korrey on 10/07/2006 17:54:06 Well ive got all that except the Domination MWD and the second Domination damage mod. (Actually ive got a sansha's damage mod so I could use that.) Would dual 650's be better? Otherwise the setup seems sound. Except why the jammer? Its got me stumped. One Hypnos multispec still isnt very good odds at jamming your target. Odd's are better over time. Just getting 1 jam can prevent you taking 10000+ HP of damage (before your resists). Letting your reps and cap chance to catch up and removing any EW or NOS/Neuts they have on you.
Skva	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:00:00 - [10] If your going to go all out with faction gear, may as well get a Dread Guristas Multispec instead of that crappy hypnos Your signature is too large! Please resize it according to the forum guidelines. Jacques Archambault
korrey	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:00:00 - [11] Well good point. And didnt even think about the MWD. Yeah duals will work.
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:01:00 - [12] Originally by: Skva If your going to go all out with faction gear, may as well get a Dread Guristas Multispec instead of that crappy hypnos wtf they actually drop!?!? TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust - Suvetar, care to confirm these rumours about you being an unstoppable sex machine? LOL -Suvetar
korrey	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:02:00 - [13] Hmm...I suppose 2x Heavy 'Diminishing' Nos wont hold my 2 large armor reps constantly. Time to start looking for more Named gear I guess.
Skva	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:02:00 - [14] Haven't checked in a while, but I remember a few being on escrow quite regulary for around 20mil per mod. That was a fair few months back though. Your signature is too large! Please resize it according to the forum guidelines. Jacques Archambault
korrey	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:03:00 - [15] LOL probably around 80-120mil now. Prices have tripled for no real reason.
zoturi	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:04:00 - [16] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Skva If your going to go all out with faction gear, may as well get a Dread Guristas Multispec instead of that crappy hypnos wtf they actually drop!?!? yep and cost approx 20m. btw there are no B-type or C-type reps
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:04:00 - [17] Originally by: korrey Hmm...I suppose 2x Heavy 'Diminishing' Nos wont hold my 2 large armor reps constantly. Time to start looking for more Named gear I guess. 2 nos and a cap booster will run 2 t2 reps so long as you have boosters and they have cap. With the faction reps, you can generally keep them on manual due to how much they repair. And damn, I need to find a DG Multispec TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust - Suvetar, care to confirm these rumours about you being an unstoppable sex machine? LOL -Suvetar
Sarmaul	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:09:00 - [18] Originally by: zoturi btw there are no B-type or C-type reps bugger TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust - Suvetar, care to confirm these rumours about you being an unstoppable sex machine? LOL -Suvetar
Horza Otho	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:12:00 - [19] 6x dual 425 II 2x w/e 1x tobias mwd 1x domi web 1x domi scramb 1x chelm injector 1x estamel multispec 2x chelm large reps 3x 28% eanm's 1x internal ff 1x hakim gyro SiSi setup 4tl :(
Skva	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:13:00 - [20] Edited by: Skva on 10/07/2006 18:14:15 Originally by: Horza Otho 6x dual 425 II 2x w/e 1x tobias mwd 1x domi web 1x domi scramb 1x chelm injector 1x estamel multispec 2x chelm large reps 3x 28% eanm's 1x internal ff 1x hakim gyro SiSi setup 4tl :( I'd be scared to undock in highsec let alone pvp edit: Because of the price, obviously, not because it's a bad setup Your signature is too large! Please resize it according to the forum guidelines. Jacques Archambault
korrey	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:23:00 - [21] Originally by: Horza Otho 6x dual 425 II 2x w/e 1x tobias mwd 1x domi web 1x domi scramb 1x chelm injector 1x estamel multispec 2x chelm large reps 3x 28% eanm's 1x internal ff 1x hakim gyro SiSi setup 4tl :( aww..if I did yours id have to spend another billion or two just to outfit my Mach. With Saramauls I already have 3/4 of it. Darn which to choose...
Kaeten	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:24:00 - [22] Originally by: Skva Edited by: Skva on 10/07/2006 18:14:15 Originally by: Horza Otho 6x dual 425 II 2x w/e 1x tobias mwd 1x domi web 1x domi scramb 1x chelm injector 1x estamel multispec 2x chelm large reps 3x 28% eanm's 1x internal ff 1x hakim gyro SiSi setup 4tl :( I'd be scared to undock in highsec let alone pvp edit: Because of the price, obviously, not because it's a bad setup thing is you'd be abel to pwn the **** outta a small gang with it High-Sec Piracy Recruitment
Farjung	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:38:00 - [23] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: zoturi btw there are no B-type or C-type reps bugger X-type is equivalent to best officer, A-type to second best, B-type to third, C-type to fourth. So Core B-type would have same stats as Tuvan's Modified if it dropped, Centus C-type would have same as Selynne's Modified. So modules with those stats do drop from officers, just not from complexes. --- Wave of Mutilation 2
Wodin Drukvik	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:48:00 - [24] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Wodin Drukvik You forgot the silk handkerchief to cry into when it finally pops, Sarmaul. If you're gonna fly a pimp ship, you need to pimp it properly. Imagine an episode of Pimp My Ride where the exterier was sprayed 5 different colours, pin striping, 18" jewel-plated rims, etc. Then you open the door and find stock fittings. Faction ships don't deserve stock fittings - the deserve as many 9" LCD screens as you can fit, a built-in laptop, some useless accessories that don't actually do anything and a sound system that deafens you the moment you turn it on, regardless of the volume level :P Oh, I heartily agree. You just have to prepare for the eventuality accordingly. :)
Isonkon Serikain	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:50:00 - [25] Edited by: Isonkon Serikain on 10/07/2006 18:51:04 Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Skva If your going to go all out with faction gear, may as well get a Dread Guristas Multispec instead of that crappy hypnos wtf they actually drop!?!? I have an Estamel's Multi that's pretty pimp... Too bad IM too poor to actually take this kinda gear into battle... it just sits in my hangar looking pretty. Ison's notches more notches
korrey	Posted - 2006.07.10 18:53:00 - [26] Ill take it for 25mil! seriously
Hllaxiu	Posted - 2006.07.10 19:00:00 - [27] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Wodin Drukvik You forgot the silk handkerchief to cry into when it finally pops, Sarmaul. If you're gonna fly a pimp ship, you need to pimp it properly. Imagine an episode of Pimp My Ride where the exterier was sprayed 5 different colours, pin striping, 18" jewel-plated rims, etc. Then you open the door and find stock fittings. Faction ships don't deserve stock fittings - the deserve as many 9" LCD screens as you can fit, a built-in laptop, some useless accessories that don't actually do anything and a sound system that deafens you the moment you turn it on, regardless of the volume level :P No espresso maker? --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson
Renowned	Posted - 2006.07.10 19:29:00 - [28] If you are worried about the price of pvping in the machariel. Then dont. -------------------------------------------------- Interested in Anti-Pirate Activity in Placid Region?
korrey	Posted - 2006.07.10 19:36:00 - [29] exactly. If ive got the money to buy a faction ship then I wont mind losing it too much. Otherwise dont buy it because that would be a billion dollar waste.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.07.10 19:49:00 - [30] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Skva If your going to go all out with faction gear, may as well get a Dread Guristas Multispec instead of that crappy hypnos wtf they actually drop!?!? I have a Kaikka... cost me 40mil
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.07.10 19:55:00 - [31] Korrey, I really doubt you have the SP to make a machariel even worth considering. My alt is almost 3weeks older than you, and has 6million SP. He has 1.8mil in learning, rest is all full combat spec. He has had (and pirated with) a full set of +3s since the day he was born. He is flying a rupture, and isn't really ready for a tempest yet. You have been around a shorter time, may have very similar or less effective SP, and you are suggesting PvPing in a faction BS. My advice is... don't. You will just lose it to a player in a player with more skillpoints in an inferior ship. That would be embarrasing If you must fly a BS, get in a nice tempest, and stay there
The Angle	Posted - 2006.07.10 19:58:00 - [32] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Skva If your going to go all out with faction gear, may as well get a Dread Guristas Multispec instead of that crappy hypnos wtf they actually drop!?!? Hells yeah they drop....there's like 6 for sale in Jita...I put one on the market a couple days ago.
The Angle	Posted - 2006.07.10 20:00:00 - [33] Originally by: HippoKing Korrey, I really doubt you have the SP to make a machariel even worth considering. My alt is almost 3weeks older than you, and has 6million SP. He has 1.8mil in learning, rest is all full combat spec. He has had (and pirated with) a full set of +3s since the day he was born. He is flying a rupture, and isn't really ready for a tempest yet. You have been around a shorter time, may have very similar or less effective SP, and you are suggesting PvPing in a faction BS. My advice is... don't. You will just lose it to a player in a player with more skillpoints in an inferior ship. That would be embarrasing If you must fly a BS, get in a nice tempest, and stay there Agreed...would be a terrible loss of ship and mods. Keep it in empire for a while and just hold it to show your friends...but don't fly it in low sec as everyone will start hunting for a Mach Kill.
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2006.08.31 03:33:00 - [34] Currently using: 6x dual 650mm scot, 2x heavy dimi nos TS web, 20km scram, gist AB, ECCM (39 piont strength) 2x TS large rep, TS EANM, exp kin and therm TS hardeners, domination gyro. drones Hammer IIs Done well, so far :)
NightmareX Caldari MAFIA Pirate Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.31 08:39:00 - [35] This is my current setup on my Machariel. High-Slot: 6x Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II 1x Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Med-Slot: 1x Sensor Booster II 1x 100MN Afterburner II 1x Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I 1x Tracking Disruptor II 1x Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I Low-Slot: 2x Large Armor Repairer II 1x Armor Explosive Hardener II 1x Armor Kinetic Hardener II 1x Armor Thermal Hardener II 1x Internal Force Field Array I 1x Gyrostabilizer II And 3x Heavy drones After i have putted on that setup, then i have 1221 Powergrid and 17.5 CPU left, so i can't put anything in the last High-Slot that are left. But i have another setup i think is pretty good to. High-Slot: 6x Dual 425mm AutoCannon II II 2x Heavy Diminishing Power System Drain I Med-Slot: 1x Sensor Booster II 1x 100MN Afterburner II 1x Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I 1x Tracking Disruptor II 1x Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I Low-Slot: 2x Large Armor Repairer II 1x Armor Explosive Hardener II 1x Armor Kinetic Hardener II 1x Armor Thermal Hardener II 1x Internal Force Field Array I 1x Domination Gyrostabilizer II And 3x Heavy Drones And here i have 739 Powergrid left and 1 CPU left. As you can see i don't actually have a pimped setup on it, since i rather like to have 3 Machariels instead of 1 Machariel with uber setup But for those who are expert with Machariel setups, what would you have used, the first setup i have or the second?
Testicular Testes	Posted - 2006.08.31 08:52:00 - [36] Originally by: Sarmaul dual 425mm II x 6 True Sansha Heavy Nos x 2 Gist MWD x 1 Domi Web x 1 Domi Disruptor x 1 True Sansha Heavy Cap Booster x 1 Hypnos Multispec x 1 Large B-Type Rep x 1 Large C-Type Rep x 1 Internal DC x 1 A-Type EANM x 2-3 Domi Gyrostab II x 1-2 B and Cs do not drop. Officer equivalents might, but you can just switch the second TS nos for a Corpum A-Type med nos and run double Core X and have a properly ungimped tank.
Wrayeth Omerta Syndicate Pure.	Posted - 2006.08.31 15:12:00 - [37] Edited by: Wrayeth on 31/08/2006 15:13:45 Machariel It still needs the domination webber, but other than that it's about as done as it's going to get - faction nos just don't provide enough of a boost at this level to be worth the ISK layout, nor domination gyrostabs. Oh, and just ignore the rest of the crap in that pic - the caption I added to it on the gallery (and the reason I posted it) was "Signs You Have Too Much ISK". EDIT: I may spring for a faction injector, though. -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Croak Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.31 15:59:00 - [38] Originally by: Wrayeth Edited by: Wrayeth on 31/08/2006 15:23:53 Machariel It still needs the domination webber, but other than that it's about as done as it's going to get - faction nos just don't provide enough of a boost at this level to be worth the ISK layout, nor domination gyrostabs. Oh, and just ignore the rest of the crap in that pic - the caption I added to it on the gallery was "Signs You Have Too Much ISK". EDIT: I may spring for a faction injector, though. What, no Snakes? ;)
Leandro Salazar Aeon Industries	Posted - 2006.08.31 16:11:00 - [39] Originally by: korrey Well ive got all that except the Domination MWD and the second Domination damage mod. (Actually ive got a sansha's damage mod so I could use that.) I am surprised noone else jumped on this yet. If you think a Sansha damage mods aka heat sink will help a Machariel, you should definitely NOT fly one... --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
Wrayeth Omerta Syndicate Pure.	Posted - 2006.08.31 16:26:00 - [40] Originally by: Croak What, no Snakes? ;) LOL, naw. It took me a couple months to save up enough to put that setup together. A siege II BPO provides a nice income, but not that good. That said, a snake set is definitely something to think about. -ponders- -Wrayeth "Look, pa! I just contributed absolutely nothing to this thread!"
Croak Gallente	Posted - 2006.08.31 17:05:00 - [41] Originally by: Wrayeth Originally by: Croak What, no Snakes? ;) LOL, naw. It took me a couple months to save up enough to put that setup together. A siege II BPO provides a nice income, but not that good. That said, a snake set is definitely something to think about. -ponders- Slap a low-grade set on a jump clone, under 400m without Omega, ~650m with. Even if you skip the Omega, you'll still get a 300+ base velocity out of the Mach, and 850+ with a Domi AB (depending on skills and other hardwires). And you can go crazy with the Cheese Whiz, a load of nanos/overdrives in the lows and a good faction MWD can get you right around 5k/s, which may not be entirely useful, but it sure is fun. Then again, a NanoMach (4x NOS, 4x Siege, MWD, 20k Scram, MTMNBN, Injector, Nanos, etc) could be a fun (if somewhat costly) surprise. Not as many drones as the Nanophoon, higher mass, and no launcher ROF bonus, but a *much* better natural tank, with a 46 m/s speed advantage out of the box that frees up a low or two for BCU, and you've got an extra mid to play with as well. Might be sinful to give up a 50% damage bonus and 37.5% tracking by not using AC's, but imagine the jaws dropping when that big beautiful ship gracefully orbits out of web range at 4000 m/s spamming torps.
Dr Fighter	Posted - 2006.09.01 00:34:00 - [42] Edited by: Dr Fighter on 01/09/2006 00:37:44 Edited by: Dr Fighter on 01/09/2006 00:34:29 snip Already posted Tho i prefer slaves to snakes, once you get fighting the snakes dont help as much ^^
Croak Gallente	Posted - 2006.09.01 02:14:00 - [43] Originally by: Dr Fighter Edited by: Dr Fighter on 01/09/2006 00:37:44 Edited by: Dr Fighter on 01/09/2006 00:34:29 snip Already posted Tho i prefer slaves to snakes, once you get fighting the snakes dont help as much ^^ That TOTALLY depends on how you're fighting...
Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.09.01 03:52:00 - [44] alright, here is a machariel thread where is kilrock!?! Ore Mongers' 3rd lotto Ebil piwat - Xorus
KilROCK Minmatar Angel Deep Corporation	Posted - 2006.09.01 05:51:00 - [45] Edited by: KilROCK on 01/09/2006 05:53:03 Originally by: Samirol alright, here is a machariel thread where is kilrock!?! Heya... I don't want to be permabanned for this. SMACKING IN A TOPIC NEAR YOU / WTS PILGRIM + CURSE + T2 DRONES PACKS
Death Warrent Karnival of Death Squad	Posted - 2006.09.01 05:53:00 - [46] Your my hero KilROCK.
CheezWhiz	Posted - 2006.12.15 07:48:00 - [47] The way real men fly: 6x Dual 650mm Repeating Artillery II, 2x Heavy Diminishing Power Drain 5x Large Inefficient Hull Repair Unit 5x Local Hull Conversion Reinforced Bulkheads, Estamel's Modified Co-Processor (+18.6%), Damage Control II needs a 5% turret CPU reduction implant The good news is with 1 NOS, all 5 reps will run forever. The bad news is you're only repairing 25hp/sec... but still... you're hull tanking /commence flaming
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.12.15 08:44:00 - [48] Corpus-X Heavy Nos ftw Or are they A? The 42km ones that just started dropping. With falloff rigs/soothsayer, your ACs should be hitting at that range, too. Faction nos is very worth it if your weapons can match range with them. Of course, if youre solo, you wont be scrambling your target at this point. But wingmen in inties are ftw. Also, I agree that Domi gyros aren't worth the outlay over t2 (theyre less than 2% better than a t2 gyro. And I dont mean 2% DPS, I mean 2% better than the gyro itself - that's ~0.4% DPS on your first gyro). Officer gyros are, though. If you can find them. Scrapheap Challenge Forums
Twilight Moon Minmatar Malicious Intentions	Posted - 2006.12.15 10:12:00 - [49] Edited by: Twilight Moon on 15/12/2006 10:12:48 Originally by: Croak Slap a low-grade set on a jump clone, under 400m without Omega, ~650m with. Even if you skip the Omega, you'll still get a 300+ base velocity out of the Mach, and 850+ with a Domi AB (depending on skills and other hardwires). I know this threads practically a necro, but do you seriously get that sort of speed increase out of a LG Snakes set? ...and then you can stack on some hardwirings too? Tempted to get a set if that's the case. (If you woke up breathing today, CONGRATULATIONS!, you get another chance!)
nabort Total Mayhem. Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.11 21:49:00 - [50] Edited by: nabort on 11/01/2007 21:47:43 Since we're looking at pimped setups (and this ship deserves pimpage, best BS in game IMO) this is a setup that will make me quit eve when i inevitably lose it to a blob/nos domi(s) but anyway, i'm saving towards it, just another 1.5bil to go. Sarmaul's got the right idea with the passive hardeners, but i'm just living in hope they give nos the nerf it deserves :p 6x 425mm AC II 2x DB Nos 100mn Gist-X Type AB Domi Web Domi Disruptor Heavy Cap Injector II Cormack's Modified Sensor Booster Centus A-type LAR Centus B-type LAR Core X-type Therm, Explo, Kin Hardeners DCU II Tobias' Modified Gyrostabilser The speed is worse than Sarmaul's, the gank is less, the tank is stronger, but so fragile to the oh so popular nos (curse it's existence), but you have to admit, posting a Screenie of this setup on the forums would make anyone green.
Timmyu Spontaneous Defenestration	Posted - 2007.01.11 22:00:00 - [51] Edited by: Timmyu on 11/01/2007 21:57:52 centus A and B type items doesnt exist unless you manage to get super lucky in some explo plex, cormac sensor booster is like 700m-1bil isk and the tobias gyrostab was up for 950m last i saw it (crazy isk for the minimal boost they add over the second best or third etc) not done the math but im sure a good officer injector must be better then a t2 one. also you really should consider putting rigs on a 5bil+ ship, PG rigs will open up a whole new book of tricks.
Speedie Tappaja	Posted - 2007.01.11 22:43:00 - [52] My dream Machariel would be high 6x 650mm ac T2 2x Heavy dim (or faction that got same stats then heavy dim) med Domi web Domi disruptor True sansha heavy cap booster Domi Mwd or officer(setele on my atm) Sensor booster ( to catch smaller stuff) Small 2x True sansha large armor rep Centum membranes set ( kinetic explosive thermal) Ts eanm domi gyro of course if i would have isk 64% active. but i dont got that. i got basicly what i posted here. minor changes and not all that good stuff. Signature picture removed since maximum allowed height is 120 pixels. - Devil ([email protected])
Horus Dark	Posted - 2007.04.11 06:47:00 - [53] ima noob. But if your in a gang and thus you have some1 tackling. Wouldnt it be a option to do shield tank. (5 mids) Go howies --> And use lows for dps?
threeD Amarr Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.01 12:35:00 - [54] My Set Up: High: 6x Dual 650mm Repeating Artillary II 2x Dark Blood Heavy Nosferatu Medium: 1x Domination Warp Disruptor 1x Domination Stasis Webbifier 1x Gist X-Type 100MN MWD 1x True Sansha Sensor Booster 1x Heavy Cap Injector II Low: 1x Domination Gyrostabliser 2x Core X-Type Large Armor Repairer 1x Core X-Type Kinetic Hardener 1x Core X-Type Thermal Hardener 1x Core X-Type Explosive Hardener 1x Reactor Control Unit II 1x Capacitor Control Circuit Rig 1x Anti Explosive Pump 1x Nano accelerator? (Whichever Grants Bonus to Armour Repair Amount) This set up is typicaly used for all types of warfare, but specificly solo. For gate camping i switch out the MWD for a second True Sansha Sensor Booster All resistances are over 70, the reps grant 1280 each every 11.5 seconds. And i can run one permanently with the ccc rig, not that i need to,(Thus i need never leave a gate whilst camping, and the cap boosters are reserved should i need to take down multiple bs targets) Extremly expensive ship, yet it has no officer equipment. This is most deffinetly the best ship i have ever flown. I am open to criticism and ideas should anyone have any regarding changes i can make to increase the ships effectiveness. I carry 3000 barrage, 2000 hail, and 1000 EM (u never know when u might run out :o)
Chode Rizoum Minmatar Temptation inc.	Posted - 2007.06.01 12:52:00 - [55] my baby goes 5.8 and decent tank and decent dmg and secret weapon ECM burst TEMPTATION INC. Killboard
threeD Amarr Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:26:00 - [56] Interesting use of rigs, but i see your unable to deploy a heavy tank due to it and the fact u have no power grid upgrades. I previously used a mach as a nano ship but since teh nerf i havnt tried, nice 2 see a new idea tho. Id be scared to use such a set up being as its alot to lose n the tank may not hold up well against multiple targets. I suppose you coudl always run away, but all it takes is a web n bang goes alot of hard cash
Ralara Caldari Exanimo Inc Triumvirate.	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:54:00 - [57] Originally by: Sarmaul Originally by: Skva If your going to go all out with faction gear, may as well get a Dread Guristas Multispec instead of that crappy hypnos wtf they actually drop!?!? ive got one and one of kaikai (sp?) modified multispec if you want it...
Peanut Swsh Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.06.01 15:59:00 - [58] Seen 2 CoW guys today in nanomachs (AphroD and some other guy). They were orbiting at 25km, doing almost 7k/s. i've heard they do 10k/s in a straight line. Would be interesting to see what kinda fitting that involves. and how much isk
Vandalzzz	Posted - 2007.06.26 13:18:00 - [59] I've seen 8.5k Outbreak's Mach. Looks like polycarbons, t2/Domi overs and fullgrade Snakes. And probably Claymore on the spot
Drek Grapper Minmatar	Posted - 2007.06.26 18:49:00 - [60] Originally by: Timmyu Edited by: Timmyu on 11/01/2007 21:57:52 centus A and B type items doesnt exist unless you manage to get super lucky in some explo plex, cormac sensor booster is like 700m-1bil isk and the tobias gyrostab was up for 950m last i saw it (crazy isk for the minimal boost they add over the second best or third etc) not done the math but im sure a good officer injector must be better then a t2 one. also you really should consider putting rigs on a 5bil+ ship, PG rigs will open up a whole new book of tricks. Why in gods name would anybody pay 700million isk for a sensor booster? - Michael Schumacher won many a formula one race. Alot of the time he didn't win because he had a better car...he won because HE WAS A BETTER DRIVER and because he used SUPERIOR TACTICS.

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