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Dracomir	Posted - 2006.07.11 03:31:00 - [1] I purchased this character (yes, the one I am posting with) today, and everything was as it was advertised to be, except for a couple of old EVE-Mails that were left in the folder. I open them and find out I just bought a Corp thief. Evidently the previous owner was a member of a corp called Flashman Services and he ripped them off, then unloaded the character on to someone else. Anyone have any suggestions as to how to repair a reputation like this? Or am I just stuck with him? Anyone willing to give me a chance to prove myself? I like this character, but don't want to live in an NPC Corp forever.
R3dSh1ft	Posted - 2006.07.11 03:40:00 - [2] Aahhh, the old double-bluff For more piratical doings, the new Pirates of the Caribbean movie is out ______________________________________
Alt Troll	Posted - 2006.07.11 03:41:00 - [3] well thats what you get for buying a character, you get baggage and all. ____________ FEED me! You know you want to
Double TaP	Posted - 2006.07.11 03:42:00 - [4] have you tried just talking to the corp, to see if they believe you?
Infinity Ziona	Posted - 2006.07.11 03:45:00 - [5] How can anyone really trust you. You could have put up a fake auction and still be the original character trying to dump some heat. You queue jumped ahead so you should be happy in any case, npc corps are not that bad.
Phelan Lore	Posted - 2006.07.11 03:46:00 - [6] Eve is a big place. So what if one corp hates you, is it really that big of a deal? 99.9% of EvE isn't going to have any clue of your reputation. If people keep harasing you with mails and what not, just block them or petition them.
Dracomir	Posted - 2006.07.11 03:49:00 - [7] I expected maybe some baggage such as having a few enemies or some toes stepped on in the past, but this is more than I had bargained for. I suppose I can find a corp eventually, it's just going to be a lot harder, and my options are more limited now.
SengH	Posted - 2006.07.11 03:50:00 - [8] wasnt the ccp character transfer supposed to wipe corp history?
Danera Adina	Posted - 2006.07.11 03:56:00 - [9] Every dog has its day!
Corunna ElMan	Posted - 2006.07.11 03:59:00 - [10] Edited by: Corunna ElMan on 11/07/2006 04:00:17 Originally by: Dracomir this is more than I had bargained for. Actually, it sounds like you got exactly what you bargained for. Perhaps you should be more careful next time. Caveat emptor.
Drayce	Posted - 2006.07.11 04:00:00 - [11] It wasn't just a corp you ripped off Dracomir but you left a single person that had played eve for years with absolutely nothing... His trust was his downfall but bottom line, it was your actions that made him not enjoy playing the game anymore. I kind of lied there. He didn't lose absolutely everything He still had friends; close friends and they are not the forgive and forget type I'm afraid.
Dracomir	Posted - 2006.07.11 04:18:00 - [12] The post above is a perfect example of what I was afraid of. There really is no way to prove that I'm not who he says I am, or to prove that I AM who I say I am.
Zytrel	Posted - 2006.07.11 05:11:00 - [13] Personally, even if I happened to believe you, I'd still never accept you as a member. First, you have just illustrated that you prefer the easy way to achieve things intead of hard work, second, you either have a rich main or acquired that char by other means cough. However, good luck. :) P.S. Maybe you can find some people who knew the old Draco on ts and pursuade them that way. regards, zytrel.
Drayce	Posted - 2006.07.11 05:12:00 - [14] If Dracomir has been 'sold' then I truly am sorry for you but as you yourself stated... there's no way to prove it one way or the other. Way I look at it you got several options. - Resell the character: not the most honourable thing to do but you get your isk back - Delete the character: so you're out of pocket, perhaps it's a lesson well learned - Live life in an NPC corp: not very fun - Carry on as normal: Hope that you don't bump up with any Flashmans crew or Bufos mates
Lardarz B'stard	Posted - 2006.07.11 05:14:00 - [15] Message someone from Flashman, ask to get on their TS/ventrilo and speak. Amazingly, if you are a different person behind the character, you will probably have a different voice. Exiles Recruitment
Drayce	Posted - 2006.07.11 05:18:00 - [16] Originally by: Zytrel P.S. Maybe you can find some people who knew the old Draco on ts and pursuade them that way. regards, zytrel. Didn't think of TS/Ventrillo, give me a yell in game and we'll hook something up if you are a different guy
Malthros Zenobia	Posted - 2006.07.11 05:26:00 - [17] Anyone who buys a character and doesn't do some inspection of the merchandise first is a moron tbh...
DrSeuss	Posted - 2006.07.11 05:30:00 - [18] Originally by: SengH wasnt the ccp character transfer supposed to wipe corp history? I surly hope not. You know how exploitable that would be? . http://www.phoenix-labs.net Everyone knows the only true wisdom is on T-Shirts
he slag	Posted - 2006.07.11 05:35:00 - [19] I'd say more people know about his reputation now than they did before. Probably would have been better to keep quiet or post with an alt. Oh well.
Zytrel	Posted - 2006.07.11 05:45:00 - [20] Originally by: he slag I'd say more people know about his reputation now than they did before. Probably would have been better to keep quiet or post with an alt. Oh well. On the other hand he can just forward ppl doubting him to this thread if all gets sorted out. regards, zytrel.
Dao 2	Posted - 2006.07.11 05:51:00 - [21] or possibly, u can petition saying that the name is offensive to many people cause the previous owner was a corp thief, and for them to check that tha ccount was transffered. and if it is indeed so maybe its possible that they would change the name? no guarantees :\| ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
Charvaka	Posted - 2006.07.11 05:51:00 - [22] How did you pay for the character? If you paid with isks, who did you transfer them to? Maybe that would be useful information.
Villiger	Posted - 2006.07.11 05:55:00 - [23] Originally by: Drayce Way I look at it you got several options. - Resell the character: not the most honourable thing to do but you get your isk back - Delete the character: so you're out of pocket, perhaps it's a lesson well learned - Live life in an NPC corp: not very fun - Carry on as normal: Hope that you don't bump up with any Flashmans crew or Bufos mates Most people buy more characters because they want a change from what they are doing or to cover all bases while playing. Example: My main is a Mission runner, always have been and always will be. (One man Corp) Alt 1: is for pvping in 0.0 space. (Large player Corp) Alt 2: is a miner and a industrialist. (NPC Corp) All 3 are pretty much maxed out in their field and I didn't have to stop or divert training to get them there. But I'll provide Dracomir with another option; He could just train that character for pvp or pirating. So if and when you guys or anyone else come looking, he'll be ready... And might have little fun while he's at it. That's the luxury of having multiple characters and accounts. That and the money to spend....
Xendie	Posted - 2006.07.11 06:25:00 - [24] or it could be that he is just claiming to have bought the character and thus trying to get the ppl chasing him off his back Originally by: F'nog This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.07.11 06:40:00 - [25] Originally by: Xendie or it could be that he is just claiming to have bought the character and thus trying to get the ppl chasing him off his back which is why the TS test might be worthwhile
Scoundrelus	Posted - 2006.07.11 06:47:00 - [26] Anyone who rips off Flashman is in my good books. ===============================================
Anglo	Posted - 2006.07.11 06:48:00 - [27] ill buy that caracter if it is. send me a msg and lets sort it.. i couldent care less of hes a corp thief anyway..
Amthrianius	Posted - 2006.07.11 06:54:00 - [28] Edited by: Amthrianius on 11/07/2006 06:54:16 Looking at your gramatical and writing style and comparing it to your "old owners" previous post's leads me to conclude you are the same person. I guess you are just trying to clean your rep by pretending to be a bought char? ---------------
Zytrel	Posted - 2006.07.11 06:58:00 - [29] Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Xendie or it could be that he is just claiming to have bought the character and thus trying to get the ppl chasing him off his back which is why the TS test might be worthwhile I somehow doubt it will be needed. Those doublebreaks from 5 months ago are kind of significant. So is the rest of the writing style. Heh. :) Like here regards, zytrel.
Amthrianius	Posted - 2006.07.11 07:02:00 - [30] Not to mention his frequent use of comma's in improper places. But nice try i guess ---------------
Belladonna Nightshade	Posted - 2006.07.11 07:08:00 - [31] Originally by: Zytrel Originally by: HippoKing Originally by: Xendie or it could be that he is just claiming to have bought the character and thus trying to get the ppl chasing him off his back which is why the TS test might be worthwhile I somehow doubt it will be needed. Those doublebreaks from 5 months ago are kind of significant. So is the rest of the writing style. Heh. :) Like here regards, zytrel. LoL Owned. 10/10 for effort 1/10 for execution. All eve players are stoooopid, a scam like this will never be detected..........
Caleb Paine	Posted - 2006.07.11 07:12:00 - [32] Nice TS test, just ask your brother/neighbour/friend to stand in for you. Then when the guys openly announce you are indeed a new person and you're freed from any blame go join a new corp and start the corp theft (or whatever it was) all over again. ----------------- Death smiles at us all, all a man can do is smile back.
Handon Guild	Posted - 2006.07.11 07:19:00 - [33] Corp thief or not, you're welcome to prove your worth with us, if you're EU-based, a skilled pvp'er and if you can cope with our rules. You won't find anything worth stealing anyway, so I am ready to give you that chance.
HippoKing	Posted - 2006.07.11 07:22:00 - [34] Its him all right
Alliaanna Dalaii	Posted - 2006.07.11 07:31:00 - [35] At least when I made up my plans and plots to make my corp believe my charachter was sold they actually believed me Believed me completely in fact... so did CCP Cue: Banned Alliaanna TS test is clearly the best way to go Official Spokestard of=-= Does Not Compute =-=
Cpt Abestos	Posted - 2006.07.11 07:49:00 - [36] Its also worth pointing out that he has only been in caldari provisions for 4 1/2 hours meaning that theres no way that he could have logged on(if a char is transfered you have to being in npc corp and wait till after dt to beable to use the char) to the char today seeing as dt hasnt happened yet.
Slarti	Posted - 2006.07.11 08:15:00 - [37] As I see it your character's past deeds become yours I'm afraid. There is no way back....or should be no way back. Your characters reputation will most likely stay with you. www.vogon.homestead.com
Vaspek	Posted - 2006.07.11 08:34:00 - [38] Originally by: Cpt Abestos Its also worth pointing out that he has only been in caldari provisions for 4 1/2 hours meaning that theres no way that he could have logged on(if a char is transfered you have to being in npc corp and wait till after dt to beable to use the char) to the char today seeing as dt hasnt happened yet.
Kalaan Oratay	Posted - 2006.07.11 08:39:00 - [39] Owned. --- Originally by: Archilies Ignore what others say: Fit what you want, with what you have, whenever you want.
Uther Doull	Posted - 2006.07.11 08:45:00 - [40] Originally by: Cpt Abestos Its also worth pointing out that he has only been in caldari provisions for 4 1/2 hours meaning that theres no way that he could have logged on(if a char is transfered you have to being in npc corp and wait till after dt to beable to use the char) to the char today seeing as dt hasnt happened yet. hehe, guess he's found out for sure now :)
Tehyarec	Posted - 2006.07.11 10:27:00 - [41] That guy's sooo busted This certainly did nothing to help with his reputation, I'm sure Silverleaf Foundation Website & Shop
Lord WarATron	Posted - 2006.07.11 10:37:00 - [42] Actually there are 3 points 1. The Char transfer at DT 2. Doesent corp history get wiped after character transfer? 3. Wallet transactions. Why dont you show us the corp theif wallet? Either way, this is the corp theif all right, and not some innocent buyer. --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Dark Shikari	Posted - 2006.07.11 10:38:00 - [43] This is why you ask the seller about the reputation before you buy --Proud member of the [23]-- -WTB Platinum Technite, WTS Nanotransistors, Heavy Electron II, 100mn AB II-
Thelmarr	Posted - 2006.07.11 10:59:00 - [44] Well, I'm sure some corp will accept him. We would but I don't like his type so I wouldn't put forth recruitment effort. Anyway, recruit the poor guy! I'm sure you can squeeze some performance out of him before he understands he won't ever get hangar or account access.
Kuolematon	Posted - 2006.07.14 06:21:00 - [45] Luckily everyone loves me and I can get to any corp I want. Althou I won't because I have returned more enjoyable games. Perhaps when Kali comes out I might take second look of EVE (Tbh, since 03/2005 I haven't played EVE .. why do I even bother paying 2 accounts .. man I'm stupid ) Unnerf Amarr! "Just because you can utterly ruin another player's game doesn't mean that you must."
Novarei Ninth Column	Posted - 2006.07.14 07:34:00 - [46] lol, the op is still denying that its an unavoidable "co-incidence" that both him and the original owner of the account have some random double line spacing in the middle of sentence fetish. Question to the OP: Why do you have this mid sentence paragraphing? --------------------
Benglada Mom 'n' Pop Ammo Shoppe Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.07.14 07:39:00 - [47] its funny because in his post denying that he is dracomir (being the main evidence that he double spaced) He double spaces! LOL! --------------------------- Originally by: Wrangler Unfrtinately you dnot get to vote..
Fly Catcher	Posted - 2006.07.14 07:53:00 - [48] I transferred an alt once, onto another account because I had to train some new skills on my main. Perhaps it was because it wasn't a power of two account but the transfer was immediate - I did the transfer, paid up, and logged on my new account - character was there, I logged him in and set his skill going again.
wolfhound490 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.15 21:28:00 - [49] Well if you are who you say you are, can you not check the logs of your transactions and find out who the real theif is?
Lord WarATron Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.17 10:07:00 - [50] Yeah, I think that would be enough to convince everbody. This is even better than CCP confirming that the char is sold, since anybody can actually buy their own character and put them on a seperate account and claim innocence - show us a few wallet pics showing where to corp theif transfered his money. --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
d00bld0ze Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.07.17 10:40:00 - [51] I have 4-5 characters on my black list, and I dont worry about a transfer or a repentance! If I meet it, I pod it and pod it again, until it sells its character. And I will pod again and again the next buyer. You are stupid to believe that a bought character dont have history! Or if you want to erase the past, erase also the skill! English learning / Rank 20 / SP: 69 of 5000
Lord WarATron Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.17 11:34:00 - [52] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 17/07/2006 11:34:30 Originally by: d00bld0ze I have 4-5 characters on my black list, and I dont worry about a transfer or a repentance! If I meet it, I pod it and pod it again, until it sells its character. And I will pod again and again the next buyer. You are stupid to believe that a bought character dont have history! Or if you want to erase the past, erase also the skill! If in doubt, POD it out :) However, a corp theif will simply sell the char on, meaning that insted of punishing the theif, you punish someone else who may or may not know the character's history. Now if the someone else can show wallet transactions so the eve public can TRACE the theif's main - that is better for all, do you not agree? --- Slot 10 Akemons Modified 'Noble'Zet 5000 implant +8% Armour FREE
Emsigma Contraband Inc.	Posted - 2006.07.17 11:37:00 - [53] Edited by: Emsigma on 17/07/2006 11:37:06 This definitly gets 10/10 for trying. They should make Ocean's Thirteen about this master sceam

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