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grizouh
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Davey Locke Completely off topic...but I just have to ask.
Piefke...How do you pronounce your name??
Is it like Pie F**ker?
no
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piefke
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SLOJack
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:07:00 -
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Well, if you knew why we sided with f-e and 5 you would stay quiet. We fought alongside with iron & g against BOB. When the fight was over, they thanked us by shooting at us, becouse some of my members did not move out of a sistem (in 5 minutes) while they were mining. So much for allies. F-E and 5 later on ERA and OSS showed us what friends are for and i thank them for that. IRON G d2 whatever you want to call yourself, were never able to do that. Im happy to see any corp/alliance see what kind of friends they have with D2/RZR/IRON. =====Only Death is Eternal===== |

Stamm
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:07:00 -
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Originally by: Acwron I've never understood this whole deklein mess. It took you guys like 6 months(?) to not resolve your problems while you didn't have to conquer the region in the first place and D2 was guarding your borders against any real enemies. That's definitaly some sort of record.
This has always puzzled me too. I'm hopeful that someone will eventually write up an unbias account of 'What really happened in Deklein'.
And who are MC shooting?
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liquidism
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:13:00 -
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300 retards vs. 50 ninjas
sparta, you made your choice 
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Nightsabre
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:14:00 -
[95]
Eh.. Oh Crap...
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Piefke
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:15:00 -
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Quote: Im happy to see any corp/alliance see what kind of friends they have with ...IRON.
be carefull with Iron and their friends, they seem to be friends, in the next moment you have a knife in your back. Its ok, war is part of this game, nevertheless, be carefull 
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:17:00 -
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Originally by: Hoegaarden I would like to make very clear, on behalf of GoonSwarm, that our quarrel is with no alliances other than D2 and we do not seek to fight any other residents of Cloud Ring or Fade so long as they do not wish to fight us and are willing to accept us as allies and claimants to the area. Residents of Deklein are invited to come to the table with representatives from SPARTA and GS to discuss terms and work out an amenable arrangement. Therefore I will make an open offer for residents of the Northwest and tenants to contact myself or Cefte and negotiate for a peace agreement until we can conclude this war.
Somebody give this guy a medal or something!
/me wipes away a tear
Seriously man, that was... beautiful
"We don't want to fight you, we want to be friends, all we want is for you to let us take over your space..." - but you dressed it up so nicely, nobody seems to have noticed. Props dude, serious props ;)
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d4ve
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:17:00 -
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Edited by: d4ve on 13/07/2006 11:17:42
Originally by: SLOJack Well, if you knew why we sided with f-e and 5 you would stay quiet. We fought alongside with iron & g against BOB. When the fight was over, they thanked us by shooting at us, becouse some of my members did not move out of a sistem (in 5 minutes) while they were mining. So much for allies. F-E and 5 later on ERA and OSS showed us what friends are for and i thank them for that. IRON G d2 whatever you want to call yourself, were never able to do that. Im happy to see any corp/alliance see what kind of friends they have with D2/RZR/IRON.
so.. one of irons more hotheaded members shot one of your guys once because he didnt follow a request fast enough for the member in question.
and for that all of iron and all our friends need to die. ok, just wanted to get it clear.
edit: damn forums logging me out ___
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Lunamariea Hawke
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:17:00 -
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The initial cause of this would be Iron, the spoilt children of eve, who left dek stamping their feet. Now they have found that living in empire is harder than they thought they decided to come back and cause trouble. Dont blame sparta etc look deeper. Iron wants dek back for itself. Things will get interesting up North now, Its not all that it seems. D2 and iron have many enemies who may take advantage of the chaos to settle old scores.....
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:23:00 -
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Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon
However, when SPARTA and other allies require support in return, D2 has not been there to get out backs. They have been fairweather friends, assisting only when it furthered their own interests.
Rofl, if only you knew what we (and me personally included also) did for your alliance behind the curtains you wouldnt talk such bull****. W/O us you wouldnt have been in dek, u wouldnt even have set a foot into fade.
And then ur reps lie to me in a small meeting where i tried to solve the situation with IRON and co.?
Now deal with the consequences and they wil be harsh, as you deserve it - backstabbers and turncoats are not wished amongst our ranks. --------------------------------
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Acwron
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:24:00 -
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Originally by: SLOJack Well, if you knew why we sided with f-e and 5 you would stay quiet. We fought alongside with iron & g against BOB. When the fight was over, they thanked us by shooting at us, becouse some of my members did not move out of a sistem (in 5 minutes) while they were mining. So much for allies. F-E and 5 later on ERA and OSS showed us what friends are for and i thank them for that. IRON G d2 whatever you want to call yourself, were never able to do that. Im happy to see any corp/alliance see what kind of friends they have with D2/RZR/IRON.
funny how Corp has no entry (neither as being shot or helping shooting somebody) on the old G nor D2 killboard.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:30:00 -
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Originally by: Stamm And who are MC shooting?
Sparta and anyone ganged with them is a good starting point. Seems that includes the Goons now as well. Oh well... *loads extra ammo into cargo* -
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31i73
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:33:00 -
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Originally by: Stamm This has always puzzled me too. I'm hopeful that someone will eventually write up an unbias account of 'What really happened in Deklein'.
I'm attempting to do this. Well, nobody can actually write unbiased, ofc, but I could include all versions of the same story, no? Please anyone that has been living in Deklein, feel free to EVEmail or convo me your tales of "what really happened" long and short versions, anything and everything about deklein politics and backgrounds. Thank you.
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Gallente citizen101001
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:36:00 -
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Originally by: Locke DieDrake Only sad part in all this is all the back stabbing and political BS.
Oh the irony 
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NathanMoore
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:41:00 -
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Originally by: Maverick McDougel
Originally by: vladdy2 I'm a little thick so forgive me 
Sparta has set D2, RZR & CDC to negative and napped Goons?
So now your hostile to IRON, FLA, CORE, D2, RZR, CDC and all Fade residents. Have i missed anyone? oh yeah how could i forget, BoB cuz they just "hostile" 
Well truth be told i was somewhat dissapointed that the NFC died so quick and strangley, but now this just makes it that much more interesting.
Are you sure you havent bit off a ton more than you can chew on?
meh dont matter, this aughta be some fun for all, lots and lots of shooty shooty, cant wait to get back in game.
Have fun all, see you out there.
you might want to add a few more to that list. i am not sure about MM but i read guard is setting you guys to -10 also. damn i just logged off to go to sleep i am going to have to relog on to verify. 
yep "Please set Sparta Alliance to negative. They napped Goonswarm and are now KOS to GUARD and associated."
i am not sure if MM is following suit i will have to ask ceo when i log on tomorrow.
sign, especially the you may add some more part. :P hehe
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Felicia Stone
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:51:00 -
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So, I'm happily moving my stuff out of Deklein when suddenly BOOM!
just wanted to wish gl to all involved and maybe I'll see y'all when the dust settles
Flic
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:51:00 -
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Originally by: Joerd Toastius
Originally by: Hoegaarden I would like to make very clear, on behalf of GoonSwarm, that our quarrel is with no alliances other than D2 and we do not seek to fight any other residents of Cloud Ring or Fade so long as they do not wish to fight us and are willing to accept us as allies and claimants to the area. Residents of Deklein are invited to come to the table with representatives from SPARTA and GS to discuss terms and work out an amenable arrangement. Therefore I will make an open offer for residents of the Northwest and tenants to contact myself or Cefte and negotiate for a peace agreement until we can conclude this war.
Somebody give this guy a medal or something!
/me wipes away a tear
Seriously man, that was... beautiful
"We don't want to fight you, we want to be friends, all we want is for you to let us take over your space..." - but you dressed it up so nicely, nobody seems to have noticed. Props dude, serious props ;)
Prepare to be assimilated...
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Rytir
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Piefke
Quote: Im happy to see any corp/alliance see what kind of friends they have with ...IRON.
be carefull with Iron and their friends, they seem to be friends, in the next moment you have a knife in your back. Its ok, war is part of this game, nevertheless, be carefull 
omg i have found my new love in this game. will you marry me? i mean your getting a christmas present from me aswell as a card. the best IRON fanboi we have 
if i promise to touch that special place will you tell me who your main is?
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Karunel
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:55:00 -
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Needless to say .NH. has set Sparta to -10. See you in the battlefield.  Please resize your signature to meet the 24000 bytes max requirement, it's currently 27002 bytes. -Ivan K |

Idunyken
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:56:00 -
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Originally by: Archangel Deck Edited by: Archangel Deck on 13/07/2006 04:22:36 The 2nd time u were set to -ve? when Sparta started telling us that u planned on controling everything west 8S28 (which includes FLA space) that was a warning sign to us, then when u told us u were taking control of JU/VFK and we made it clear that wasnt an option considering u werent part of the war, when did we finaly set you -ve? when ex-NFC corps now Sparta corps refused to remove their POS's from JU/VFK
And why should they? You never won the war. VFK and JU- were still protected by numerous deathstars and you had made no attempt to take them. When the NFC corps that had maintainted those POSs merged with sparta, sparta gained the rights to those stations. Those corps had earned those systems far more than IRON and FLA ever had imo. Good luck to them.
Originally by: Archangel Deck Edited by: Archangel Deck on 13/07/2006 04:22:36 So reason Sparta was attacked by us? Sparta was attempting to expand beyond the 1 extra constellation that was going to be given to them, D2 cant stop us from going to war with u guys if u give us a vaild reason. We arent attacking Sparta we are defending FLA/IRON from Sparta
So sparta can be stopped helping NFC against IRON and FLA but IRON can't be stopped from attacking sparta to try take the stations they came for in the first place? I can see why Sparta decided D2 were not as great allies as they thought. Goons or no goons IRON was going to attack sparta to get 'their' stations. Defending IRON/FLA from sparta? Nope, sorry I can't see a way to look at that statement that makes it look true. Oh and NFC gave sparta the CZD constallation, not you.
Seems like Sparta has made a bold and sensible descision to me. Goonswarm are not the blobbing newbs they used to be. And D2 are not the shining protectors of the north that <G> used to be.
Good luck to you all!
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Bishop 5
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Murph Dog Good Luck to All & Lets have some fun :D
yooo Murph! r0x0r their b0x0rz... or whatever.
my legs hurt. -------------
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Ur Dirac
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:02:00 -
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Same drama, different day. Dek is such a mess.
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Rytir
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:03:00 -
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Edited by: Rytir on 13/07/2006 12:03:45
Originally by: Idunyken
Originally by: Archangel Deck Edited by: Archangel Deck on 13/07/2006 04:22:36 The 2nd time u were set to -ve? when Sparta started telling us that u planned on controling everything west 8S28 (which includes FLA space) that was a warning sign to us, then when u told us u were taking control of JU/VFK and we made it clear that wasnt an option considering u werent part of the war, when did we finaly set you -ve? when ex-NFC corps now Sparta corps refused to remove their POS's from JU/VFK
And why should they? You never won the war. VFK and JU- were still protected by numerous deathstars and you had made no attempt to take them. When the NFC corps that had maintainted those POSs merged with sparta, sparta gained the rights to those stations. Those corps had earned those systems far more than IRON and FLA ever had imo. Good luck to them.
Originally by: Archangel Deck Edited by: Archangel Deck on 13/07/2006 04:22:36 So reason Sparta was attacked by us? Sparta was attempting to expand beyond the 1 extra constellation that was going to be given to them, D2 cant stop us from going to war with u guys if u give us a vaild reason. We arent attacking Sparta we are defending FLA/IRON from Sparta
So sparta can be stopped helping NFC against IRON and FLA but IRON can't be stopped from attacking sparta to try take the stations they came for in the first place? I can see why Sparta decided D2 were not as great allies as they thought. Goons or no goons IRON was going to attack sparta to get 'their' stations. Defending IRON/FLA from sparta? Nope, sorry I can't see a way to look at that statement that makes it look true. Oh and NFC gave sparta the CZD constallation, not you.
Seems like Sparta has made a bold and sensible descision to me. Goonswarm are not the blobbing newbs they used to be. And D2 are not the shining protectors of the north that <G> used to be.
Good luck to you all!
and the tinfoil hat award goes to this gentleman.
we originally didn't want to hold any stations.
when sparta decided they would take them and fla space we decided that was not a good idea seeing as the main nfc leadership fled to sparta.
now we have to hold stations again :/
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Turiya Flesharrower
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:03:00 -
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Beagle Corp has set Sparta Alliance to red standings.
Oh, and IRON too.
Oh yeah, and FLA; let's not forget them.
Plus NFC and pretty much everyone else we happen to come across.
In fact, I'm just going to leave everyone at neutral standings and adopt an NBSI policy 
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Idunyken
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:13:00 -
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Edited by: Idunyken on 13/07/2006 12:13:50
Originally by: Rytir Edited by: Rytir on 13/07/2006 12:03:45
and the tinfoil hat award goes to this gentleman.
we originally didn't want to hold any stations.
when sparta decided they would take them and fla space we decided that was not a good idea seeing as the main nfc leadership fled to sparta.
now we have to hold stations again :/
Even if this be true (which I still beleive it isn't) the rest of that post stands.
Edit: Oh btw, welcome back to the old Winds of Dawn (now winds of vengance I see) hope you kick some ass 
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PuppetmasterX
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:16:00 -
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Edited by: PuppetmasterX on 13/07/2006 12:17:51
Originally by: Idunyken
And why should they? You never won the war. VFK and JU- were still protected by numerous deathstars and you had made no attempt to take them. When the NFC corps that had maintainted those POSs merged with sparta, sparta gained the rights to those stations. Those corps had earned those systems far more than IRON and FLA ever had imo. Good luck to them.
Did you just say that NFC had earned those systems??? 
Riiiiight....
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d4ve
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:16:00 -
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Originally by: Idunyken Even if this be true (which I still beleive it isn't)
if you want proof, ask xNFC leadership about the original proposal put forward to them by FLA and IRON diplomats. ___
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Viconia D'Mysterious
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:16:00 -
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yes im an alt. there are very good reasons for me to post with alt and not main. mainly because im gonna be called a liar and prolly kicked out of corp >.<
anyway. things changed in sparta... changed a lot. the leaders arent the ones that were not long time ago. the new management is nothing but a poor shadow of what it was before... i can see sparta members leaving their corp/alliance already. i have to say that the decision was made on behalf of one person (maybe 2 or 3)and not the entire command structure as it supposed to be, so the members pretty much dont know anything.. not why, not when.. this is obvious that sparta has backstabbed D2. in the time when D2 still wasnt formed, former G made it possible for sparta to become an entity and group up as an alliance. sparta was one of the VERY few organizations allowed to jump capital ships into former G space for an example.. so u can imagine how G/D2 trusted sparta. now when sparta gained force, aquired stations and got a piece of space.. are they feeling so uber with the 7 ppl gangs they have?... the station was GIVEN to sparta.. not conquered and i can say for sure that they wont stand a chance against D2 even if allied with GS or whatever. best wishes to D2.. kick them hard! traitors should not live! and sparta... one thing i want to say....... BURN!
/me goes to polish the 1400s.. 
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Piefke
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:18:00 -
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Originally by: Turiya Flesharrower Beagle Corp has set Sparta Alliance to red standings.
Oh, and IRON too.
Oh yeah, and FLA; let's not forget them.
Plus NFC and pretty much everyone else we happen to come across.
In fact, I'm just going to leave everyone at neutral standings and adopt an NBSI policy 
that part with iron, FLA and Core is nice, but by the way, you cant set NFC to red, cause that ally doesnt exist anymore 
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Heero Yuy
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:23:00 -
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You almost have to say "well done Sparta" I suppose. Not only have you decided to self-destruct, you decided to do it by betraying your closest allies and the North while you were at it. Nice going there.
For our part we're very happy that you've revealed your true colours. At least now there's no point mustering your forum brigade to cry "buhuhuu, FLA did this, that and the other". Compared to your fairly jaw-dropping sell-out, I can't see what we could possibly do to even remotely compare.
Thank god too that you didn't actually take us up on our offer to share upper Dek fairly and squarely between us, as that would obviously have been an invitation to treachery and disaster a short way down the road. We can only guess that "everything" must have sounded so much better than "enough" that you just couldn't resist. Still, what's done is done and soon you will be no more.
Goodbye Sparta, it was a mixed pleasure knowing you.
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