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tbow10
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Posted - 2006.07.13 02:47:00 -
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Edited by: tbow10 on 13/07/2006 02:49:50 Edited by: tbow10 on 13/07/2006 02:49:24 As of today Sparta will be napping goons and setting d2/rzr/cdc -. We would like to wish all our old friends best of luck. This was a vary hard move for us to make we will see you on the field. Let us have fun and some smack free frights.
tbow spr exec
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Hoegaarden
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Posted - 2006.07.13 02:50:00 -
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Signed.
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Rift Scorn
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Posted - 2006.07.13 02:50:00 -
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update thine sig tbow
shoot ya later man
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tbow10
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Posted - 2006.07.13 02:51:00 -
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wow you posted before i could even fix it :S
later rift
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Yazoul Samaiel
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Posted - 2006.07.13 02:54:00 -
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GL i guess , Goons are a good alliance with much potential and u can count on them to always meet the enemy head to head no matter what the odds , had a lot of fun with em in syndicate and their current stand aginst D2 just proves their mettle. "What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
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Xrak
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Posted - 2006.07.13 02:55:00 -
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So whats the reasons then?
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Aramark
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Posted - 2006.07.13 02:58:00 -
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Originally by: Xrak So whats the reasons then?
times 2 ??
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Montaire
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Posted - 2006.07.13 02:59:00 -
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We've supported D2 to the hilt in their fights against the goons. We've helped whenever they have asked. Where were they when we asked ?
I'm glad that we're throwing in with goons, maybe then we can have allies that are real allies.
** My opinions, not that of my allaince or corp **
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Attak
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:00:00 -
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Haha, full circle. GNWIII anyone?
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XxSaharaxX
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:02:00 -
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MissKitten
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:05:00 -
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Aramark
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:06:00 -
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are you just setting just those 3 alliance -. or are you resetting all standings as well?
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Paddlefoot Aeon
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:08:00 -
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Edited by: Paddlefoot Aeon on 13/07/2006 03:08:28
Originally by: Xrak So whats the reasons then?
**Please note that the opinions contained herein are those of Paddlefoot, and do not necessairly reflect the official position of SPARTA command or member corps***
D2 has been an ally of SPARTA for a very long time. When D2 has needed help, SPARTA has done the best we can to support and assist D2.
However, when SPARTA and other allies require support in return, D2 has not been there to get out backs. They have been fairweather friends, assisting only when it furthered their own interests.
We, after much debate, have decided to stand up for ourselves and come out of D2's shadow.
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Zen TseTse
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:10:00 -
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Edited by: Zen TseTse on 13/07/2006 03:10:27
Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon
Originally by: Xrak So whats the reasons then?
**Please note that the opinions contained herein are those of Paddlefoot, and do not necessairly reflect the official position of SPARTA command or member corps***
D2 has been an ally of SPARTA for a very long time. When D2 has needed help, SPARTA has done the best we can to support and assist D2.
However, when SPARTA and other allies require support in return, D2 has not been there to get out backs. They have been fairweather friends, assisting only when it furthered their own interests.
We, after much debate, have decided to stand up for ourselves and come out of D2's shadow.
Im new but...
If your "long tiem friend" isnt there for you, the solution isnt to declare war.
And it seems if you merely wanted to "stand up for yourselves" and get out from D2's shadow... you wouldnt team with GOONs.
But hey... whatever. Enjoy the new shadow... ---------------------- Ф Blood Eagle ---------------------- |
BurnYaBad
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:12:00 -
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Zen TseTse please show that you are posting from Tribal War, the Free Explorer sister corp, thank you :)
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Chenister
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:14:00 -
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Originally by: Zen TseTse Edited by: Zen TseTse on 13/07/2006 03:10:27
Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon
Originally by: Xrak So whats the reasons then?
**Please note that the opinions contained herein are those of Paddlefoot, and do not necessairly reflect the official position of SPARTA command or member corps***
D2 has been an ally of SPARTA for a very long time. When D2 has needed help, SPARTA has done the best we can to support and assist D2.
However, when SPARTA and other allies require support in return, D2 has not been there to get out backs. They have been fairweather friends, assisting only when it furthered their own interests.
We, after much debate, have decided to stand up for ourselves and come out of D2's shadow.
Im new but...
If your "long tiem friend" isnt there for you, the solution isnt to declare war.
And it seems if you merely wanted to "stand up for yourselves" and get out from D2's shadow... you wouldnt team with GOONs.
But hey... whatever. Enjoy the new shadow...
setting - isn't declaring war... =P
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Montaire
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:16:00 -
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FREEE is at this point still blue to Sparta. We will let them decide, as we have mutual respect.
Other corps and alliances with a desire to clarify standings contact someone in Sparta. You can contact me if you wish.
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tbow10
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:17:00 -
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i would like to say katelice/androsin/my-self have the offical say in sparta posts
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tbow10
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Montaire FREEE is at this point still blue to Sparta. We will let them decide, as we have mutual respect.
Other corps and alliances with a desire to clarify standings contact someone in Sparta. You can contact me if you wish.
If you would still like to be blue eve mail me.
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roikorev
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:19:00 -
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Originally by: Zen TseTse Edited by: Zen TseTse on 13/07/2006 03:10:27
Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon
Originally by: Xrak So whats the reasons then?
**Please note that the opinions contained herein are those of Paddlefoot, and do not necessairly reflect the official position of SPARTA command or member corps***
D2 has been an ally of SPARTA for a very long time. When D2 has needed help, SPARTA has done the best we can to support and assist D2.
However, when SPARTA and other allies require support in return, D2 has not been there to get out backs. They have been fairweather friends, assisting only when it furthered their own interests.
We, after much debate, have decided to stand up for ourselves and come out of D2's shadow.
Im new but...
If your "long tiem friend" isnt there for you, the solution isnt to declare war.
And it seems if you merely wanted to "stand up for yourselves" and get out from D2's shadow... you wouldnt team with GOONs.
But hey... whatever. Enjoy the new shadow...
Since when did two alliances setting positive standings = one overshadowing the other? I'm confident Sparta will find that, unlike D2, GS doesn't treat its allies like slaves.
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Aramark
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:24:00 -
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Edited by: Aramark on 13/07/2006 03:25:00 i have talked to a few sparta guys in local. always nice people can't say anything bad about them. i am shocked at this outcome. best of luck to you sparta
edit: i'm a lightweight.. can't spell
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Archangel Deck
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:35:00 -
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Edited by: Archangel Deck on 13/07/2006 03:38:13 So instead of peace like we wanted, Sparta let itself be controled by NFC napped GoonSwarm and now we have another war
Remember it was Sparta that came forward and told FLA/IRON to get out of dek, our one and only target was NFC, aww well fun to see Sparta die as well
Also remember it was GoonSwarm that prevented D2 from being able to help u even if they wanted to _____________________________
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Montaire
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Archangel Deck So instead of peace like we wanted, Sparta let itself be controled by NFC napped GoonSwarm and now we have another war
Remember it was Sparta that came forward and told FLA/IRON to get out of dek, our one and only target was NFC, aww well fun to see Sparta die as well
Your information is not accurate.
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WETRAIN
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:45:00 -
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oh yeaaaaaa gnw... fo sho`
Yes ... I am back ... cant freaking quit ..
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Ta WaYa
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:51:00 -
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Hmm... I do believe FLA and Iron fired the 1st shots on Sparta, which you were set to positive standings.......
So, it seems to me you're the ones breaking the Peace by shooting your own allies when you promissed not to attack them, guess your words are not worthy and honorable.
Not to mention hiring 2 merc corps to attack sparta in the first place,
Shame Shame on you Iron, and you expect to win sympathy from the community...........
And Shame on D2 for allowing this to happen, when they promissed iron and fla would not attack sparta........
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Ur Dirac
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:55:00 -
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Wow. The North is really turning into a fascinating playing field.
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ESGATO
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:56:00 -
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Originally by: Montaire FREEE is at this point still blue to Sparta. We will let them decide, as we have mutual respect.
Other corps and alliances with a desire to clarify standings contact someone in Sparta. You can contact me if you wish.
I am by no means a representitive of FREEE, but I don't even want the question hanging there. FREEE has sparta set to -10 for their backstabbing.
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Montaire
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:57:00 -
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Now all we need is for MC to take a contract up here. I want another banner with Hugh
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Mandrake Knight
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Posted - 2006.07.13 03:59:00 -
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Edited by: Mandrake Knight on 13/07/2006 03:59:20 I would like to say that is pretty pathetic napping goonswarm. I thought you had more self respect than that.
Doesnt really matter to me though I guess, more targets = more fun. -----------
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Nate D
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Posted - 2006.07.13 04:08:00 -
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... /me drools... ?
-Nate
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Archangel Deck
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Posted - 2006.07.13 04:10:00 -
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If u are talking about the first time we fired on u, i do believe there was an offical post that u were entering the war on the side of NFC, i was there when the first shot was fired at ur t2 industrial ship.
The 2nd time u were set to -ve? when Sparta started telling us that u planned on controling everything west 8S28 (which includes FLA space) that was a warning sign to us, then when u told us u were taking control of JU/VFK and we made it clear that wasnt an option considering u werent part of the war, when did we finaly set you -ve? when ex-NFC corps now Sparta corps refused to remove their POS's from JU/VFK, Sparta was telling us that they wanted control of everything west of 8S28 and control of JU/VFK, thats every station in Dek they were saying they wanted to own
My information was wrong? I dont think so i know what goes on within this alliance, as for MC? they were first hired by NFC to fight FLA, but FLA counterd the offer and MC accecpted that offer, the target was NFC but now since Sparta is made up of NFC, the target is now Sparta, as for the 2nd merc contract on u guys, lol thats a funny one we never hired merc's to attack Sparta, the one who hired them is within ur own ranks. Now saying that ur all gonna flame me, say im lieing but its the truth, take it or leave it
So reason Sparta was attacked by us? Sparta was attempting to expand beyond the 1 extra constellation that was going to be given to them, D2 cant stop us from going to war with u guys if u give us a vaild reason. We arent attacking Sparta we are defending FLA/IRON from Sparta _____________________________
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NATMav
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Posted - 2006.07.13 04:30:00 -
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To make it official, F.R.E.E. Explorer has set Sparta -10.
See ya on the battlefield.
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Ur Dirac
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Posted - 2006.07.13 04:40:00 -
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How does FLA fit into all this madness?
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Montaire
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Posted - 2006.07.13 04:44:00 -
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Originally by: Archangel Deck
My information was wrong? I dont think so i know what goes on within this alliance, as for MC? they were first hired by NFC to fight FLA, but FLA counterd the offer and MC accecpted that offer, the target was NFC but now since Sparta is made up of NFC, the target is now Sparta,
This would signal a titanic shift for MC.
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maria fonatana
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Posted - 2006.07.13 05:05:00 -
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Let this be a warning for all dek/fade residents not currently aligned in this war.
sparta have stabbed you all in the back by bringing in a hostile alliance who are trying to invade fade now. If you value your homes and friendship with D2 i suggest you all set sparta to negative as now they have given the goons a staging area north of fade which will unltimately, if not countered lead to you all losing your homes. Now is not the time for sitting in station and thinking "ill just wait this out and see who wins".
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Nidrian
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Posted - 2006.07.13 05:15:00 -
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It's your decision... These Iron/NFC/Sparta/FLA conflicts who all are friends towards D2 were never our affairs. Why should we start to attack a friendly ally? All because of 1 or 2 Stations - really a shame... But it keeps the North interesting
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zscft
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Posted - 2006.07.13 05:24:00 -
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Originally by: Montaire We've supported D2 to the hilt in their fights against the goons. We've helped whenever they have asked. Where were they when we asked ?
You have got to love it when the pennie drops and yet another group relises what D2 are like, they are all one sided.
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Azeroth Uluntil
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Posted - 2006.07.13 05:30:00 -
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Yay. Time to skill the Spartan's. More targets keeps me happy. :-)
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cryptic edge
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Posted - 2006.07.13 05:32:00 -
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FLA had nothing to do with the mercs hired on Sparta. We actually just wanted to defeat the NFC like we were doing, and then after that was over have a stable dek, but sparta joined NFC, and lost 1.5 bil right after so they pulled out. As soon as NFC broke up we recieved an evemail from a sparta diplomat telling us that they "were claiming all NFC space to defend it against goonfleet and there was nothing we could do about it." That was their declaration of war right there. They asked for this and they were plotting and planning on stabbing all of the north in the back from the start. After telling us they were wanting to defend it against goonfleet they bring in goons? This only proves that they never had any interest in working with anyone in the north, and care nothing about friendship with their neighbors as they would rather sell the region out to an invader over assisting and defending our territory. Sparta is not to be trusted, their leadership is not to be trusted and welcome to the second great northern war. Anyone who associates with sparta can expect as soon as your no longer "in their best interests" that they will sell you out to the next invading power. This includes you goonfleet, as sparta has been a long time D2 ally and rather than staying out like D2 told them to and not trying to take over by other means they ensured the removal of a friend. Im sure they will do the same to you within the next few months, if they last that long.
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Hoegaarden's Alt
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Posted - 2006.07.13 05:38:00 -
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Edited by: Hoegaarden''s Alt on 13/07/2006 05:39:49 Edited by: Hoegaarden''s Alt on 13/07/2006 05:39:31 edit: whoops
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Hoegaarden
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Posted - 2006.07.13 05:40:00 -
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I would like to make very clear, on behalf of GoonSwarm, that our quarrel is with no alliances other than D2 and we do not seek to fight any other residents of Cloud Ring or Fade so long as they do not wish to fight us and are willing to accept us as allies and claimants to the area. Residents of Deklein are invited to come to the table with representatives from SPARTA and GS to discuss terms and work out an amenable arrangement. Therefore I will make an open offer for residents of the Northwest and tenants to contact myself or Cefte and negotiate for a peace agreement until we can conclude this war. Goonfleet CEO
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.07.13 05:40:00 -
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Edited by: Seleene on 13/07/2006 05:40:26
Originally by: Montaire
Originally by: Archangel Deck My information was wrong? I dont think so i know what goes on within this alliance, as for MC? they were first hired by NFC to fight FLA, but FLA counterd the offer and MC accecpted that offer, the target was NFC but now since Sparta is made up of NFC, the target is now Sparta,
This would signal a titanic shift for MC.
What shift might that be? We had offers from both sides. We took the one from FLA. For whatever reasons, NFC has more or less dissolved and merged / joined Sparta. Sparta has now brought in the Goons.
All this shifting and realigning reminds me of why I hate the North. Anyone who chooses to live up here must be into self-abuse.
When Hugh has something to say about all this, we'll let you know. -
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tbow10
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Posted - 2006.07.13 05:41:00 -
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Edited by: tbow10 on 13/07/2006 05:42:14
Originally by: cryptic edge FLA had nothing to do with the mercs hired on Sparta. We actually just wanted to defeat the NFC like we were doing, and then after that was over have a stable dek, but sparta joined NFC, and lost 1.5 bil right after so they pulled out. As soon as NFC broke up we recieved an evemail from a sparta diplomat telling us that they "were claiming all NFC space to defend it against goonfleet and there was nothing we could do about it." That was their declaration of war right there. They asked for this and they were plotting and planning on stabbing all of the north in the back from the start. After telling us they were wanting to defend it against goonfleet they bring in goons? This only proves that they never had any interest in working with anyone in the north, and care nothing about friendship with their neighbors as they would rather sell the region out to an invader over assisting and defending our territory. Sparta is not to be trusted, their leadership is not to be trusted and welcome to the second great northern war. Anyone who associates with sparta can expect as soon as your no longer "in their best interests" that they will sell you out to the next invading power. This includes you goonfleet, as sparta has been a long time D2 ally and rather than staying out like D2 told them to and not trying to take over by other means they ensured the removal of a friend. Im sure they will do the same to you within the next few months, if they last that long.
and you point out hte problem they told us to stay out when it did involve us. You attacked nfc, and you attacked us you fired 1st shoot both times. By d2 alway telling us what to do or else what did you expect us to do just say ok your the o god o boss of eve we bow to you your ubber!!!!!!!!!
rofl
this is my own veiw also
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Azeroth Uluntil
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Posted - 2006.07.13 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 13/07/2006 05:40:26
Originally by: Montaire
Originally by: Archangel Deck My information was wrong? I dont think so i know what goes on within this alliance, as for MC? they were first hired by NFC to fight FLA, but FLA counterd the offer and MC accecpted that offer, the target was NFC but now since Sparta is made up of NFC, the target is now Sparta,
This would signal a titanic shift for MC.
What shift might that be? We had offers from both sides. We took the one from FLA. For whatever reasons, NFC has more or less dissolved and merged / joined Sparta. Sparta has now brought in the Goons.
All this shifting and realigning reminds me of why I hate the North. Anyone who chooses to live up here must be into self-abuse.
When Hugh has something to say about all this, we'll let you know.
In response to the self-abuse statement... You get used to it after a while Seleene. Welcome to the North by the way.
Originally by: Hoegaarden I would like to make very clear, on behalf of GoonSwarm, that our quarrel is with no alliances other than D2 and we do not seek to fight any other residents of Cloud Ring or Fade so long as they do not wish to fight us and are willing to accept us as allies and claimants to the area. Residents of Deklein are invited to come to the table with representatives from SPARTA and GS to discuss terms and work out an amenable arrangement. Therefore I will make an open offer for residents of the Northwest and tenants to contact myself or Cefte and negotiate for a peace agreement until we can conclude this war.
Pretty sure I can jump the gun and say "When hell freezes over" in reguards to IRON.
Reasons being: A: Goonfleet is massive=massive amount of targets for us B: D2 are reliable allies as long as you can pull your own weight. Sparta can't, and thus D2 possibly got tired of it. (I don't know for sure, just guessing :-))
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Cartiff
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Posted - 2006.07.13 05:57:00 -
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Shame, i enjoyed fighting alongside Sparta. Ah well, change is always good
Cya in space peeps, luck to all ----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys"
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Murph Dog
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Posted - 2006.07.13 06:13:00 -
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Good Luck to All & Lets have some fun :D
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cryptic edge
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Posted - 2006.07.13 06:18:00 -
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Originally by: tbow10 Edited by: tbow10 on 13/07/2006 05:42:14
Originally by: cryptic edge FLA had nothing to do with the mercs hired on Sparta. We actually just wanted to defeat the NFC like we were doing, and then after that was over have a stable dek, but sparta joined NFC, and lost 1.5 bil right after so they pulled out. As soon as NFC broke up we recieved an evemail from a sparta diplomat telling us that they "were claiming all NFC space to defend it against goonfleet and there was nothing we could do about it." That was their declaration of war right there. They asked for this and they were plotting and planning on stabbing all of the north in the back from the start. After telling us they were wanting to defend it against goonfleet they bring in goons? This only proves that they never had any interest in working with anyone in the north, and care nothing about friendship with their neighbors as they would rather sell the region out to an invader over assisting and defending our territory. Sparta is not to be trusted, their leadership is not to be trusted and welcome to the second great northern war. Anyone who associates with sparta can expect as soon as your no longer "in their best interests" that they will sell you out to the next invading power. This includes you goonfleet, as sparta has been a long time D2 ally and rather than staying out like D2 told them to and not trying to take over by other means they ensured the removal of a friend. Im sure they will do the same to you within the next few months, if they last that long.
and you point out hte problem they told us to stay out when it did involve us. You attacked nfc, and you attacked us you fired 1st shoot both times. By d2 alway telling us what to do or else what did you expect us to do just say ok your the o god o boss of eve we bow to you your ubber!!!!!!!!!
rofl
this is my own veiw also
We never fired on you first, you joined NFC in the war against FLA, making yoursleves targets. You told us you were taking the spoils of the war you were not even in for more than 1 day (mind you, not at the end) so you started this. Now you will become the targets of FLA. We wouldnt have started firing on Sparta if they would have not tried to take what we earned. We were willing to give you more space for staying out but you wernt content with that. Instead you got greedy and wanted it all. You brought this on yourself and could have saved face and been the good guys if you would have just accepted the fact that the NFC was dead, not tried to take their stuff as your own. FLA/IRON/FREE/Core eanred that space, and you have no claim on it.
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Doragee
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Posted - 2006.07.13 06:22:00 -
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Interesting point here: One lonely NFC-guy cyno'd for GS in the Fade backyards, D2 set them to -10, they complain, they disband, most of them joined SPR and now SPR set D2 to -10 because D2 will not help them to stay in DEK, a region where D2 never had hartly any territorial involvment. Why should D2 help SPR while they have a conflict running on their own, which were well known by SPR leadership? And why SPR decided to NAP the Goonieverse which are engaging D2 in Fade, while SPR has a conflict in DEK? Will SPR move and try to claim Fade? Will the Goonieverse try to nap all other D2 allys as well?
Interesting times at least... --
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Milkminer
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Posted - 2006.07.13 06:25:00 -
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Originally by: cryptic edge FLA/IRON/FREE/Core eanred that space, and you have no claim on it.
This is really driving a nail in to my head.
FLA earned nothing, I was in this war, and your ravens camping 3JN were te only sign of you. No smack intended just fact, you were a defensive entity, IRON/Core/FREEE the fighters and much respect for their abilities.
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tbow10
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Posted - 2006.07.13 06:27:00 -
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Originally by: cryptic edge
Originally by: tbow10 Edited by: tbow10 on 13/07/2006 05:42:14
Originally by: cryptic edge FLA had nothing to do with the mercs hired on Sparta. We actually just wanted to defeat the NFC like we were doing, and then after that was over have a stable dek, but sparta joined NFC, and lost 1.5 bil right after so they pulled out. As soon as NFC broke up we recieved an evemail from a sparta diplomat telling us that they "were claiming all NFC space to defend it against goonfleet and there was nothing we could do about it." That was their declaration of war right there. They asked for this and they were plotting and planning on stabbing all of the north in the back from the start. After telling us they were wanting to defend it against goonfleet they bring in goons? This only proves that they never had any interest in working with anyone in the north, and care nothing about friendship with their neighbors as they would rather sell the region out to an invader over assisting and defending our territory. Sparta is not to be trusted, their leadership is not to be trusted and welcome to the second great northern war. Anyone who associates with sparta can expect as soon as your no longer "in their best interests" that they will sell you out to the next invading power. This includes you goonfleet, as sparta has been a long time D2 ally and rather than staying out like D2 told them to and not trying to take over by other means they ensured the removal of a friend. Im sure they will do the same to you within the next few months, if they last that long.
and you point out hte problem they told us to stay out when it did involve us. You attacked nfc, and you attacked us you fired 1st shoot both times. By d2 alway telling us what to do or else what did you expect us to do just say ok your the o god o boss of eve we bow to you your ubber!!!!!!!!!
rofl
this is my own veiw also
We never fired on you first, you joined NFC in the war against FLA, making yoursleves targets. You told us you were taking the spoils of the war you were not even in for more than 1 day (mind you, not at the end) so you started this. Now you will become the targets of FLA. We wouldnt have started firing on Sparta if they would have not tried to take what we earned. We were willing to give you more space for staying out but you wernt content with that. Instead you got greedy and wanted it all. You brought this on yourself and could have saved face and been the good guys if you would have just accepted the fact that the NFC was dead, not tried to take their stuff as your own. FLA/IRON/FREE/Core eanred that space, and you have no claim on it.
sov would differ see you on friday :)
wish luck to you guys
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tbow10
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Posted - 2006.07.13 06:29:00 -
[51]
sparta i ask you to now stay out of this thread and go back to our no posting policy
:)
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cryptic edge
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Posted - 2006.07.13 06:30:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Milkminer
Originally by: cryptic edge FLA/IRON/FREE/Core eanred that space, and you have no claim on it.
This is really driving a nail in to my head.
FLA earned nothing, I was in this war, and your ravens camping 3JN were te only sign of you. No smack intended just fact, you were a defensive entity, IRON/Core/FREEE the fighters and much respect for their abilities.
You probally didnt notice because like most of NFC you probally safe spotted every time we entered system. Made it hard to fight a war against people who always hid. Oh well, the numbers speak for themselves, and we still won and earned it. But at this point, sparta has made their bed and has irritated almost the entire north.
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Milkminer
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Posted - 2006.07.13 06:31:00 -
[53]
Guesss we all gotta do what we gotta do, and get on with this war. No point hammering an announcement thread about it. Lets see your metal on the killing fields
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Rangar
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Posted - 2006.07.13 06:44:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Cartiff Ah well, change is always good
Well, changes are good from time to time, but at least we will not change our friends like underpants! It is a bit sad, that some people here begin to act like politicians in real life and change their friends and allies for short term advantages.
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vladdy2
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Posted - 2006.07.13 06:45:00 -
[55]
I'm a little thick so forgive me
Sparta has set D2, RZR & CDC to negative and napped Goons?
So now your hostile to IRON, FLA, CORE, D2, RZR, CDC and all Fade residents. Have i missed anyone? oh yeah how could i forget, BoB cuz they just "hostile"
Well truth be told i was somewhat dissapointed that the NFC died so quick and strangley, but now this just makes it that much more interesting.
Are you sure you havent bit off a ton more than you can chew on?
meh dont matter, this aughta be some fun for all, lots and lots of shooty shooty, cant wait to get back in game.
Have fun all, see you out there. --------------------------------- another VNTR member with no sig by Vaevictus :( |
Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.07.13 06:45:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Seleene Edited by: Seleene on 13/07/2006 05:40:26
Originally by: Montaire
Originally by: Archangel Deck My information was wrong? I dont think so i know what goes on within this alliance, as for MC? they were first hired by NFC to fight FLA, but FLA counterd the offer and MC accecpted that offer, the target was NFC but now since Sparta is made up of NFC, the target is now Sparta,
This would signal a titanic shift for MC.
What shift might that be? We had offers from both sides. We took the one from FLA. For whatever reasons, NFC has more or less dissolved and merged / joined Sparta. Sparta has now brought in the Goons.
All this shifting and realigning reminds me of why I hate the North. Anyone who chooses to live up here must be into self-abuse.
When Hugh has something to say about all this, we'll let you know.
Thanks mate (you know what i mean). Drop me a message ingame plz --------------------------------
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Montaire
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Posted - 2006.07.13 06:51:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Seleene
This would signal a titanic shift for MC.
What shift might that be? We had offers from both sides. We took the one from FLA. For whatever reasons, NFC has more or less dissolved and merged / joined Sparta. Sparta has now brought in the Goons.
All this shifting and realigning reminds me of why I hate the North. Anyone who chooses to live up here must be into self-abuse.
Ah. From the original post it seemed like MC had told FLA there was a pending contract against them and then asked for a better offer. Something like that I wouldnt expect from MC.
Seems there just happened to be two different contracts entered at roughly the same time, which makes sense.
Good luck and good hunting.
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Buddrow
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Posted - 2006.07.13 07:00:00 -
[58]
meh,
like i said earlier, the more the merrie.
and yes this is quickly developing to GNWII if some more stuff goes down, ROBERTO, where art thou ---------------------------------- "Give me but one firm spot on which to stand, and I will move earth." Archimedes c.287 - 212 BC
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Maverick McDougel
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Posted - 2006.07.13 07:20:00 -
[59]
Originally by: vladdy2 I'm a little thick so forgive me
Sparta has set D2, RZR & CDC to negative and napped Goons?
So now your hostile to IRON, FLA, CORE, D2, RZR, CDC and all Fade residents. Have i missed anyone? oh yeah how could i forget, BoB cuz they just "hostile"
Well truth be told i was somewhat dissapointed that the NFC died so quick and strangley, but now this just makes it that much more interesting.
Are you sure you havent bit off a ton more than you can chew on?
meh dont matter, this aughta be some fun for all, lots and lots of shooty shooty, cant wait to get back in game.
Have fun all, see you out there.
you might want to add a few more to that list. i am not sure about MM but i read guard is setting you guys to -10 also. damn i just logged off to go to sleep i am going to have to relog on to verify.
yep "Please set Sparta Alliance to negative. They napped Goonswarm and are now KOS to GUARD and associated."
i am not sure if MM is following suit i will have to ask ceo when i log on tomorrow.
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Locke DieDrake
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Posted - 2006.07.13 07:25:00 -
[60]
Good times.
Only sad part in all this is all the back stabbing and political BS. Ah well. You want War. This is what we do. All you had to do was ask.
Also Carefull what you wish for.
My thanks and "Good fighting" to the honorable combatants on all sides. The rest of you will burn.
See you on the field of battle.
**I do not represent IRON or IRON PRIKs** Oh, and setting a 0.0 alliance - is in fact a war declaration. Don't kid yourselfs. ___________________________________________ The deeper you stick it in your vein, the deeper the thoughts there's no more pain. ___________________________________________ |
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I'm''Sofa''King''Ugly
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Posted - 2006.07.13 07:48:00 -
[61]
This oughta be fun now if we can just get 2 set groups working so we can come up with a funny nickname for the 2. like the spongebobs versus patrick star. or allied vs. axis. whatever then get all the local corps alliances involved it should be interesting up north.
oh well good luck to all fighting and keep us that are out of the loop updated as i think most everyone will be interested.
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Alaesa
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Posted - 2006.07.13 08:01:00 -
[62]
How about "Avon vs Kleeneze"
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NOObbody
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Posted - 2006.07.13 08:07:00 -
[63]
Edited by: NOObbody on 13/07/2006 08:07:22 So the foe of my friend is.... my friend. Maybe we couldt help you that much, because there¦s a freking war going on against your new allies.
I wonder at what point Sparta will realize, that GS doesn¦t play as they do...
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Davey Locke
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Posted - 2006.07.13 08:17:00 -
[64]
Oooh...They'll learn...
But in the mean time we have more things to shoot!!!!
W00TY T00TY...SHOOTY SHOOTY!!!!
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Kraeze
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Posted - 2006.07.13 08:32:00 -
[65]
Welcome to the party Sparta (or should I say ex NFC?), gl!
You'll need it.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.07.13 08:32:00 -
[66]
Originally by: vladdy2 I'm a little thick so forgive me
Sparta has set D2, RZR & CDC to negative and napped Goons?
So now your hostile to IRON, FLA, CORE, D2, RZR, CDC and all Fade residents. Have i missed anyone? oh yeah how could i forget, BoB cuz they just "hostile"
Well truth be told i was somewhat dissapointed that the NFC died so quick and strangley, but now this just makes it that much more interesting.
Are you sure you havent bit off a ton more than you can chew on?
meh dont matter, this aughta be some fun for all, lots and lots of shooty shooty, cant wait to get back in game.
Have fun all, see you out there.
I am glad someone summarised this thread in a way that my poor little brain can cope with :D
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Acwron
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Posted - 2006.07.13 08:44:00 -
[67]
I've never understood this whole deklein mess. It took you guys like 6 months(?) to not resolve your problems while you didn't have to conquer the region in the first place and D2 was guarding your borders against any real enemies. That's definitaly some sort of record.
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d4ve
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Posted - 2006.07.13 08:57:00 -
[68]
@ sparta/xNFC leadership you were given reasonable options from day 1 when IRON came back north, but you always decided to take the route that would lead to conflict and war. see where this has taken you, do your members know wtf they are getting themselves into?
@ milkminer, moominer. will you guys be looking for a new corp soon? contact me ingame. ___
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moroti
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Posted - 2006.07.13 09:06:00 -
[69]
oh dear, Sparta. gl IRON et al.
I look forward to a statment from Hugh
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Deidranna
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Posted - 2006.07.13 09:19:00 -
[70]
Edited by: Deidranna on 13/07/2006 09:21:18
sparta, thanks for wasting my time with you the last weeks, months, year burn and rot
deidranna
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.07.13 09:34:00 -
[71]
*second thoughts about taking his T2 BC North*
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Piefke
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Posted - 2006.07.13 09:39:00 -
[72]
Quote: will you guys be looking for a new corp soon? contact me ingame.
ok Goon .. mh .. but for this join Iron, i would del. my char before joining Iron AUS and FLA. If you want to leave Sparta, there are a lot of other nice corps and alliances, dont join Iron and .. their friends
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d4ve
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Posted - 2006.07.13 09:45:00 -
[73]
Originally by: Piefke
Quote: @ milkminer, moominer. will you guys be looking for a new corp soon? contact me ingame.
ok Goon .. mh .. but for this join Iron, i would del. my char before joining Iron AUS and FLA. If you want to leave Sparta, there are a lot of other nice corps and alliances, dont join Iron and .. their friends
pls dont quote me out of context. it wasnt aimed at all sparta members and certainly not you. i wouldnt want a smacktalker of your caliber in the corp. ___
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Deviana Sevidon
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Posted - 2006.07.13 09:49:00 -
[74]
Quote: sparta, thanks for wasting my time with you the last weeks, months, year burn and rot
there is not much to add on this. I am just sad you decided to backstab all of fade by siding with our enemys.
tbh. I don't think your alliance will survive what happens next. so have fun while you still can.
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Piefke
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Posted - 2006.07.13 09:49:00 -
[75]
Quote: i wouldnt want a smacktalker of your caliber in the corp.
An Iron like you dont likes smacktalkers, its like a fly does not like to fly or water doesnt want to be wet, you are kidding, otherwise you would have to leave Iron, right?
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Karunel
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Posted - 2006.07.13 09:54:00 -
[76]
More - = + Fun
Please resize your signature to meet the 24000 bytes max requirement, it's currently 27002 bytes. -Ivan K |
d4ve
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Posted - 2006.07.13 09:58:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Piefke
Quote: i wouldnt want a smacktalker of your caliber in the corp.
An Iron like you dont likes smacktalkers, its like a fly does not like to fly or water doesnt want to be wet, you are kidding, otherwise you would have to leave Iron, right?
you are reaching now m8. altho it is possible to extend this to most of iron, i was talking about my corp. and we dont smack. what policy does imperial academy have on smacking on the forums?
im done having a discussion with a noobcorp alt. POST WITH YOUR MAIN ___
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Rytir
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:00:00 -
[78]
Originally by: tbow10 Edited by: tbow10 on 13/07/2006 02:49:50 Edited by: tbow10 on 13/07/2006 02:49:24 As of today Sparta will be napping goons and setting d2/rzr/cdc -. We would like to wish all our old friends best of luck. This was a vary hard move for us to make we will see you on the field. Let us have fun and some smack free frights.
tbow spr exec
NO WAI!!
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RaYmEn
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:04:00 -
[79]
Edited by: RaYmEn on 13/07/2006 10:05:15 Sparta, I worked for you (Fade Resident times) that you get and be an alliance..and now you do this? Thanks for wasting my time.
As you wish, Im really ****** up, see you on the battlefield.
Ra²
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TSS1
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:07:00 -
[80]
Wir wachsen mit unseren Aufgaben !!!! |
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Hair
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:09:00 -
[81]
Wow, an opportunistic grab for Deklein while Fade is under attack, didn't take much for you to backstab your allies. Very disappointing Sparta
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Rytir
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:13:00 -
[82]
Originally by: Piefke
Quote: i wouldnt want a smacktalker of your caliber in the corp.
An Iron like you dont likes smacktalkers, its like a fly does not like to fly or water doesnt want to be wet, you are kidding, otherwise you would have to leave Iron, right?
d4ve do we have another alt fanboi??
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Kay Han
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:14:00 -
[83]
i hereby annouce that DUST set¦s SPARTA to kos.
Cu on the Battlefield ___________________________________________ A wise man said once: 'Violence is the escape of the mentaly poor guys.'
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grizouh
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:16:00 -
[84]
sometimes rumours get true where u think this simply can¦t be... well, i wonder if the second rumour will be true, too. (and both were unbelievable)
time will tell
concerning sparta: see deidranna
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Vanguard Secundus
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:41:00 -
[85]
Well, Isn't this going to be fun!
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Piefke
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:43:00 -
[86]
Quote: Well, Isn't this going to be fun!
thats the reason of the game, to have some fun, otherwise we would play WoW or stay in empire
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SLOJack
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Posted - 2006.07.13 10:50:00 -
[87]
I wish the best of luck to SPARTA in the name of my corp, we were both pushed into a similar decision, mainly becouse of ppl we stood by, and got butt f**** by ... If its not clear, by this i mean IRON&G aka D2. We now both stand on the same side of the fence.
All hail D2 and may they R.I.P
=====Only Death is Eternal===== |
d4ve
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:00:00 -
[88]
Originally by: SLOJack I wish the best of luck to SPARTA in the name of my corp, we were both pushed into a similar decision, mainly becouse of ppl we stood by, and got butt f**** by ... If its not clear, by this i mean IRON&G aka D2. We now both stand on the same side of the fence.
All hail D2 and may they R.I.P
if i remember correctly (and dont quote me on this) you were the ones that sided with F-E and 5 back in that conflict. that's why you got set to negative.
those alliances dont exist anymore, no need to hold a grudge. ___
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Davey Locke
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:00:00 -
[89]
Completely off topic...but I just have to ask.
Piefke...How do you pronounce your name??
Is it like Pie F**ker?
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tyrol
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:02:00 -
[90]
*tyrol sits in the corner with his tin foil hat on merrily banging away on buddrows war drums 0_o
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grizouh
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:07:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Davey Locke Completely off topic...but I just have to ask.
Piefke...How do you pronounce your name??
Is it like Pie F**ker?
no
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piefke
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SLOJack
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:07:00 -
[92]
Well, if you knew why we sided with f-e and 5 you would stay quiet. We fought alongside with iron & g against BOB. When the fight was over, they thanked us by shooting at us, becouse some of my members did not move out of a sistem (in 5 minutes) while they were mining. So much for allies. F-E and 5 later on ERA and OSS showed us what friends are for and i thank them for that. IRON G d2 whatever you want to call yourself, were never able to do that. Im happy to see any corp/alliance see what kind of friends they have with D2/RZR/IRON. =====Only Death is Eternal===== |
Stamm
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:07:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Acwron I've never understood this whole deklein mess. It took you guys like 6 months(?) to not resolve your problems while you didn't have to conquer the region in the first place and D2 was guarding your borders against any real enemies. That's definitaly some sort of record.
This has always puzzled me too. I'm hopeful that someone will eventually write up an unbias account of 'What really happened in Deklein'.
And who are MC shooting?
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liquidism
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:13:00 -
[94]
300 retards vs. 50 ninjas
sparta, you made your choice
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Nightsabre
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:14:00 -
[95]
Eh.. Oh Crap...
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Piefke
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:15:00 -
[96]
Quote: Im happy to see any corp/alliance see what kind of friends they have with ...IRON.
be carefull with Iron and their friends, they seem to be friends, in the next moment you have a knife in your back. Its ok, war is part of this game, nevertheless, be carefull
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:17:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Hoegaarden I would like to make very clear, on behalf of GoonSwarm, that our quarrel is with no alliances other than D2 and we do not seek to fight any other residents of Cloud Ring or Fade so long as they do not wish to fight us and are willing to accept us as allies and claimants to the area. Residents of Deklein are invited to come to the table with representatives from SPARTA and GS to discuss terms and work out an amenable arrangement. Therefore I will make an open offer for residents of the Northwest and tenants to contact myself or Cefte and negotiate for a peace agreement until we can conclude this war.
Somebody give this guy a medal or something!
/me wipes away a tear
Seriously man, that was... beautiful
"We don't want to fight you, we want to be friends, all we want is for you to let us take over your space..." - but you dressed it up so nicely, nobody seems to have noticed. Props dude, serious props ;)
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d4ve
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:17:00 -
[98]
Edited by: d4ve on 13/07/2006 11:17:42
Originally by: SLOJack Well, if you knew why we sided with f-e and 5 you would stay quiet. We fought alongside with iron & g against BOB. When the fight was over, they thanked us by shooting at us, becouse some of my members did not move out of a sistem (in 5 minutes) while they were mining. So much for allies. F-E and 5 later on ERA and OSS showed us what friends are for and i thank them for that. IRON G d2 whatever you want to call yourself, were never able to do that. Im happy to see any corp/alliance see what kind of friends they have with D2/RZR/IRON.
so.. one of irons more hotheaded members shot one of your guys once because he didnt follow a request fast enough for the member in question.
and for that all of iron and all our friends need to die. ok, just wanted to get it clear.
edit: damn forums logging me out ___
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Lunamariea Hawke
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:17:00 -
[99]
The initial cause of this would be Iron, the spoilt children of eve, who left dek stamping their feet. Now they have found that living in empire is harder than they thought they decided to come back and cause trouble. Dont blame sparta etc look deeper. Iron wants dek back for itself. Things will get interesting up North now, Its not all that it seems. D2 and iron have many enemies who may take advantage of the chaos to settle old scores.....
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Cmd Woodlouse
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:23:00 -
[100]
Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon
However, when SPARTA and other allies require support in return, D2 has not been there to get out backs. They have been fairweather friends, assisting only when it furthered their own interests.
Rofl, if only you knew what we (and me personally included also) did for your alliance behind the curtains you wouldnt talk such bull****. W/O us you wouldnt have been in dek, u wouldnt even have set a foot into fade.
And then ur reps lie to me in a small meeting where i tried to solve the situation with IRON and co.?
Now deal with the consequences and they wil be harsh, as you deserve it - backstabbers and turncoats are not wished amongst our ranks. --------------------------------
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Acwron
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:24:00 -
[101]
Originally by: SLOJack Well, if you knew why we sided with f-e and 5 you would stay quiet. We fought alongside with iron & g against BOB. When the fight was over, they thanked us by shooting at us, becouse some of my members did not move out of a sistem (in 5 minutes) while they were mining. So much for allies. F-E and 5 later on ERA and OSS showed us what friends are for and i thank them for that. IRON G d2 whatever you want to call yourself, were never able to do that. Im happy to see any corp/alliance see what kind of friends they have with D2/RZR/IRON.
funny how Corp has no entry (neither as being shot or helping shooting somebody) on the old G nor D2 killboard.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:30:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Stamm And who are MC shooting?
Sparta and anyone ganged with them is a good starting point. Seems that includes the Goons now as well. Oh well... *loads extra ammo into cargo* -
History of the MC movie! |
31i73
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:33:00 -
[103]
Originally by: Stamm This has always puzzled me too. I'm hopeful that someone will eventually write up an unbias account of 'What really happened in Deklein'.
I'm attempting to do this. Well, nobody can actually write unbiased, ofc, but I could include all versions of the same story, no? Please anyone that has been living in Deklein, feel free to EVEmail or convo me your tales of "what really happened" long and short versions, anything and everything about deklein politics and backgrounds. Thank you.
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Gallente citizen101001
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:36:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Locke DieDrake Only sad part in all this is all the back stabbing and political BS.
Oh the irony
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NathanMoore
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:41:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Maverick McDougel
Originally by: vladdy2 I'm a little thick so forgive me
Sparta has set D2, RZR & CDC to negative and napped Goons?
So now your hostile to IRON, FLA, CORE, D2, RZR, CDC and all Fade residents. Have i missed anyone? oh yeah how could i forget, BoB cuz they just "hostile"
Well truth be told i was somewhat dissapointed that the NFC died so quick and strangley, but now this just makes it that much more interesting.
Are you sure you havent bit off a ton more than you can chew on?
meh dont matter, this aughta be some fun for all, lots and lots of shooty shooty, cant wait to get back in game.
Have fun all, see you out there.
you might want to add a few more to that list. i am not sure about MM but i read guard is setting you guys to -10 also. damn i just logged off to go to sleep i am going to have to relog on to verify.
yep "Please set Sparta Alliance to negative. They napped Goonswarm and are now KOS to GUARD and associated."
i am not sure if MM is following suit i will have to ask ceo when i log on tomorrow.
sign, especially the you may add some more part. :P hehe
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Felicia Stone
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:51:00 -
[106]
So, I'm happily moving my stuff out of Deklein when suddenly BOOM!
just wanted to wish gl to all involved and maybe I'll see y'all when the dust settles
Flic
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Deja Thoris
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:51:00 -
[107]
Originally by: Joerd Toastius
Originally by: Hoegaarden I would like to make very clear, on behalf of GoonSwarm, that our quarrel is with no alliances other than D2 and we do not seek to fight any other residents of Cloud Ring or Fade so long as they do not wish to fight us and are willing to accept us as allies and claimants to the area. Residents of Deklein are invited to come to the table with representatives from SPARTA and GS to discuss terms and work out an amenable arrangement. Therefore I will make an open offer for residents of the Northwest and tenants to contact myself or Cefte and negotiate for a peace agreement until we can conclude this war.
Somebody give this guy a medal or something!
/me wipes away a tear
Seriously man, that was... beautiful
"We don't want to fight you, we want to be friends, all we want is for you to let us take over your space..." - but you dressed it up so nicely, nobody seems to have noticed. Props dude, serious props ;)
Prepare to be assimilated...
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Rytir
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:52:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Piefke
Quote: Im happy to see any corp/alliance see what kind of friends they have with ...IRON.
be carefull with Iron and their friends, they seem to be friends, in the next moment you have a knife in your back. Its ok, war is part of this game, nevertheless, be carefull
omg i have found my new love in this game. will you marry me? i mean your getting a christmas present from me aswell as a card. the best IRON fanboi we have
if i promise to touch that special place will you tell me who your main is?
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Karunel
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:55:00 -
[109]
Needless to say .NH. has set Sparta to -10. See you in the battlefield. Please resize your signature to meet the 24000 bytes max requirement, it's currently 27002 bytes. -Ivan K |
Idunyken
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Posted - 2006.07.13 11:56:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Archangel Deck Edited by: Archangel Deck on 13/07/2006 04:22:36 The 2nd time u were set to -ve? when Sparta started telling us that u planned on controling everything west 8S28 (which includes FLA space) that was a warning sign to us, then when u told us u were taking control of JU/VFK and we made it clear that wasnt an option considering u werent part of the war, when did we finaly set you -ve? when ex-NFC corps now Sparta corps refused to remove their POS's from JU/VFK
And why should they? You never won the war. VFK and JU- were still protected by numerous deathstars and you had made no attempt to take them. When the NFC corps that had maintainted those POSs merged with sparta, sparta gained the rights to those stations. Those corps had earned those systems far more than IRON and FLA ever had imo. Good luck to them.
Originally by: Archangel Deck Edited by: Archangel Deck on 13/07/2006 04:22:36 So reason Sparta was attacked by us? Sparta was attempting to expand beyond the 1 extra constellation that was going to be given to them, D2 cant stop us from going to war with u guys if u give us a vaild reason. We arent attacking Sparta we are defending FLA/IRON from Sparta
So sparta can be stopped helping NFC against IRON and FLA but IRON can't be stopped from attacking sparta to try take the stations they came for in the first place? I can see why Sparta decided D2 were not as great allies as they thought. Goons or no goons IRON was going to attack sparta to get 'their' stations. Defending IRON/FLA from sparta? Nope, sorry I can't see a way to look at that statement that makes it look true. Oh and NFC gave sparta the CZD constallation, not you.
Seems like Sparta has made a bold and sensible descision to me. Goonswarm are not the blobbing newbs they used to be. And D2 are not the shining protectors of the north that <G> used to be.
Good luck to you all!
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Bishop 5
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:01:00 -
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Originally by: Murph Dog Good Luck to All & Lets have some fun :D
yooo Murph! r0x0r their b0x0rz... or whatever.
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Ur Dirac
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:02:00 -
[112]
Same drama, different day. Dek is such a mess.
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Rytir
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:03:00 -
[113]
Edited by: Rytir on 13/07/2006 12:03:45
Originally by: Idunyken
Originally by: Archangel Deck Edited by: Archangel Deck on 13/07/2006 04:22:36 The 2nd time u were set to -ve? when Sparta started telling us that u planned on controling everything west 8S28 (which includes FLA space) that was a warning sign to us, then when u told us u were taking control of JU/VFK and we made it clear that wasnt an option considering u werent part of the war, when did we finaly set you -ve? when ex-NFC corps now Sparta corps refused to remove their POS's from JU/VFK
And why should they? You never won the war. VFK and JU- were still protected by numerous deathstars and you had made no attempt to take them. When the NFC corps that had maintainted those POSs merged with sparta, sparta gained the rights to those stations. Those corps had earned those systems far more than IRON and FLA ever had imo. Good luck to them.
Originally by: Archangel Deck Edited by: Archangel Deck on 13/07/2006 04:22:36 So reason Sparta was attacked by us? Sparta was attempting to expand beyond the 1 extra constellation that was going to be given to them, D2 cant stop us from going to war with u guys if u give us a vaild reason. We arent attacking Sparta we are defending FLA/IRON from Sparta
So sparta can be stopped helping NFC against IRON and FLA but IRON can't be stopped from attacking sparta to try take the stations they came for in the first place? I can see why Sparta decided D2 were not as great allies as they thought. Goons or no goons IRON was going to attack sparta to get 'their' stations. Defending IRON/FLA from sparta? Nope, sorry I can't see a way to look at that statement that makes it look true. Oh and NFC gave sparta the CZD constallation, not you.
Seems like Sparta has made a bold and sensible descision to me. Goonswarm are not the blobbing newbs they used to be. And D2 are not the shining protectors of the north that <G> used to be.
Good luck to you all!
and the tinfoil hat award goes to this gentleman.
we originally didn't want to hold any stations.
when sparta decided they would take them and fla space we decided that was not a good idea seeing as the main nfc leadership fled to sparta.
now we have to hold stations again :/
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Turiya Flesharrower
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:03:00 -
[114]
Beagle Corp has set Sparta Alliance to red standings.
Oh, and IRON too.
Oh yeah, and FLA; let's not forget them.
Plus NFC and pretty much everyone else we happen to come across.
In fact, I'm just going to leave everyone at neutral standings and adopt an NBSI policy
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Idunyken
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:13:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Idunyken on 13/07/2006 12:13:50
Originally by: Rytir Edited by: Rytir on 13/07/2006 12:03:45
and the tinfoil hat award goes to this gentleman.
we originally didn't want to hold any stations.
when sparta decided they would take them and fla space we decided that was not a good idea seeing as the main nfc leadership fled to sparta.
now we have to hold stations again :/
Even if this be true (which I still beleive it isn't) the rest of that post stands.
Edit: Oh btw, welcome back to the old Winds of Dawn (now winds of vengance I see) hope you kick some ass
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PuppetmasterX
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:16:00 -
[116]
Edited by: PuppetmasterX on 13/07/2006 12:17:51
Originally by: Idunyken
And why should they? You never won the war. VFK and JU- were still protected by numerous deathstars and you had made no attempt to take them. When the NFC corps that had maintainted those POSs merged with sparta, sparta gained the rights to those stations. Those corps had earned those systems far more than IRON and FLA ever had imo. Good luck to them.
Did you just say that NFC had earned those systems???
Riiiiight....
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d4ve
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:16:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Idunyken Even if this be true (which I still beleive it isn't)
if you want proof, ask xNFC leadership about the original proposal put forward to them by FLA and IRON diplomats. ___
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Viconia D'Mysterious
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:16:00 -
[118]
yes im an alt. there are very good reasons for me to post with alt and not main. mainly because im gonna be called a liar and prolly kicked out of corp >.<
anyway. things changed in sparta... changed a lot. the leaders arent the ones that were not long time ago. the new management is nothing but a poor shadow of what it was before... i can see sparta members leaving their corp/alliance already. i have to say that the decision was made on behalf of one person (maybe 2 or 3)and not the entire command structure as it supposed to be, so the members pretty much dont know anything.. not why, not when.. this is obvious that sparta has backstabbed D2. in the time when D2 still wasnt formed, former G made it possible for sparta to become an entity and group up as an alliance. sparta was one of the VERY few organizations allowed to jump capital ships into former G space for an example.. so u can imagine how G/D2 trusted sparta. now when sparta gained force, aquired stations and got a piece of space.. are they feeling so uber with the 7 ppl gangs they have?... the station was GIVEN to sparta.. not conquered and i can say for sure that they wont stand a chance against D2 even if allied with GS or whatever. best wishes to D2.. kick them hard! traitors should not live! and sparta... one thing i want to say....... BURN!
/me goes to polish the 1400s..
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Piefke
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:18:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Turiya Flesharrower Beagle Corp has set Sparta Alliance to red standings.
Oh, and IRON too.
Oh yeah, and FLA; let's not forget them.
Plus NFC and pretty much everyone else we happen to come across.
In fact, I'm just going to leave everyone at neutral standings and adopt an NBSI policy
that part with iron, FLA and Core is nice, but by the way, you cant set NFC to red, cause that ally doesnt exist anymore
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Heero Yuy
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:23:00 -
[120]
You almost have to say "well done Sparta" I suppose. Not only have you decided to self-destruct, you decided to do it by betraying your closest allies and the North while you were at it. Nice going there.
For our part we're very happy that you've revealed your true colours. At least now there's no point mustering your forum brigade to cry "buhuhuu, FLA did this, that and the other". Compared to your fairly jaw-dropping sell-out, I can't see what we could possibly do to even remotely compare.
Thank god too that you didn't actually take us up on our offer to share upper Dek fairly and squarely between us, as that would obviously have been an invitation to treachery and disaster a short way down the road. We can only guess that "everything" must have sounded so much better than "enough" that you just couldn't resist. Still, what's done is done and soon you will be no more.
Goodbye Sparta, it was a mixed pleasure knowing you.
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Idunyken
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:28:00 -
[121]
Edited by: Idunyken on 13/07/2006 12:29:02
Originally by: d4ve
Originally by: Idunyken Even if this be true (which I still beleive it isn't)
if you want proof, ask xNFC leadership about the original proposal put forward to them by FLA and IRON diplomats.
I read it when it was issued, thankyou.
Edit: for clarity
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Stamm
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:36:00 -
[122]
Ok. Help me here.
Where do the following alliances stand...
CORE. FLA. OPUS.
Psst. CCP. Please let corp set standings towards alliances.
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Jenessa
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:36:00 -
[123]
It's reading threads like this that made me so happy to have left politics behind.
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Ur Dirac
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:39:00 -
[124]
Man, this is moving fast. So the situation isn't exactly stable is it?
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Amano Uzume
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:40:00 -
[125]
alltime there are alliances that always try to sleep with the strongest alliance nearby. it was the same with xelas, maybe bob gives sparta a home in fountain when you got killed.
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Shinoobie
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:43:00 -
[126]
Wow,
Just wow. I just hope that you Sparta guys fight in game as well as you fight on the forums! We'd be in for one hell of war if wasn't for the fact that we'd be facing 100 Ibises because you guys are so scared to POST WITH A MAIN.
Pointless discussion going on here. IRON guys get in game and fight them, leave Sparta to hide behind there alts whining on the forums.
I'll see you all on the battlefield.
Regards,
Shin
Elite Scouting
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Turiya Flesharrower
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:44:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Piefke
Originally by: Turiya Flesharrower Beagle Corp has set Sparta Alliance to red standings.
Oh, and IRON too.
Oh yeah, and FLA; let's not forget them.
Plus NFC and pretty much everyone else we happen to come across.
In fact, I'm just going to leave everyone at neutral standings and adopt an NBSI policy
that part with iron, FLA and Core is nice, but by the way, you cant set NFC to red, cause that ally doesnt exist anymore
That's a shame; some of the funniest moments in beagle history have come from jumping into JU/VFK and watching people's reactions in local chat, including gang formation and orders
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MiA Greasy
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Posted - 2006.07.13 12:58:00 -
[128]
I'll keep this to the point..
~DIE~ ~Look a Bob intercepter..... Local just shot up to 3.......... heeeyy i'm in a clone vat?~ True Story |
FotoFlame
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Posted - 2006.07.13 13:03:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Idunyken I can see why Sparta decided D2 were not as great allies as they thought. Goons or no goons IRON was going to attack sparta to get 'their' stations.
Find me a chatlog, announcement, eve-mail or TS recording which supports that and i'll draw IRON off Deklein right now.
Of course I'm more than happy to post the chatlog I had with the Sparta leadership the other night if that will clear this up. Its quite the read, you get to see IRON honour it's word that Sparta will keep their stations and territory, followed by Sparta announcing their claim on VFK/JU and admitting that they hired X13 on themselves to make us look bad.
Coupled with the mail that I sent out to the NFC leadership before this all kicked of it would make a great addition to that un-biased account everyone keeps asking for...
Truth is, every leader in this region knows why we're here but not one of them has the bottle to admit it to their own members.
And you all wonder why we won't make an official annoucement :)
~Foto
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Lunamariea Hawke
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Posted - 2006.07.13 13:04:00 -
[130]
I wonder what FLA bought with the 30 pieces of silver that they received from Iron for helping them start this. All was peacefull until Iron showed up again. D2 had help from its allies to defend its borders, NFC, FLA and Sparta were in D2 gangs. Who is to blame........ Who is laughing....... The south!
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
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Posted - 2006.07.13 13:04:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Idunyken
Seems like Sparta has made a bold and sensible descision to me. Goonswarm are not the blobbing newbs they used to be. And D2 are not the shining protectors of the north that <G> used to be.
I can only post my opinion to this topic so don't quote me for the truth .. only diplos like Woody can give you all informations - but ...
... i think D¦ wouldn't have set SPARTA to -10 if they didn't NAP the goons - i had the impression that the D¦ lead wasn't pleased by the whole mess in deklein ... but would have tried to sort it out with peacetalks ... or at least stay out of this conflict - both sides (IRON/FLA & NFC/SPARTA) were blue to us ... do you really expect to sort such problems with military forces?
At first it was an infight of allied alliances, do you expect we prefer one side over another side? i don't hope so - but when the goons entered the scheme - the decision was easy. ___________________
-Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
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NATMav
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Posted - 2006.07.13 13:05:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Stamm Ok. Help me here.
Where do the following alliances stand...
CORE. FLA. OPUS.
Psst. CCP. Please let corp set standings towards alliances.
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.07.13 13:09:00 -
[133]
Edited by: Joerd Toastius on 13/07/2006 13:13:30
Originally by: Deja Thoris
Originally by: Joerd Toastius
Originally by: Hoegaarden I would like to make very clear, on behalf of GoonSwarm, that our quarrel is with no alliances other than D2 and we do not seek to fight any other residents of Cloud Ring or Fade so long as they do not wish to fight us and are willing to accept us as allies and claimants to the area. Residents of Deklein are invited to come to the table with representatives from SPARTA and GS to discuss terms and work out an amenable arrangement. Therefore I will make an open offer for residents of the Northwest and tenants to contact myself or Cefte and negotiate for a peace agreement until we can conclude this war.
Somebody give this guy a medal or something!
/me wipes away a tear
Seriously man, that was... beautiful
"We don't want to fight you, we want to be friends, all we want is for you to let us take over your space..." - but you dressed it up so nicely, nobody seems to have noticed. Props dude, serious props ;)
Prepare to be assimilated...
I was born ready...
Besides, aren't we technically kinda sorta on the same side right now, in a manner of speaking?
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Lunamariea Hawke
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Posted - 2006.07.13 13:12:00 -
[134]
"i had the impression that the D¦ lead wasn't pleased by the whole mess in deklein ... but would have tried to sort it out with peacetalks"
I think that d2 may rue the fact that they could have sorted it out just by saying 'stop' to all concerned. Once this mess is over whoever is left will be weak and ready for conquest leaving the mightly d2 alone and on the back foot. Everybody is blaming each other but the truth is that only 1 alliance had the power to stop it getting out of hand
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Piefke
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Posted - 2006.07.13 13:30:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Lunamariea Hawke "i had the impression that the D¦ lead wasn't pleased by the whole mess in deklein ... but would have tried to sort it out with peacetalks"
I think that d2 may rue the fact that they could have sorted it out just by saying 'stop' to all concerned. Once this mess is over whoever is left will be weak and ready for conquest leaving the mightly d2 alone and on the back foot. Everybody is blaming each other but the truth is that only 1 alliance had the power to stop it getting out of hand
thats so true, nice posting
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.07.13 13:40:00 -
[136]
Edited by: Grimpak on 13/07/2006 13:40:42
POPCORN! GET YER POPCORN HERE!
*sits back in his popcorn booth and watches the whole thing, from far away* -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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d4ve
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Posted - 2006.07.13 13:52:00 -
[137]
can i have some popcorns even tho im right in the middle of it? pls ___
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WildCard
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Posted - 2006.07.13 13:53:00 -
[138]
Well Sparta, as you whish. -WildCard CEO SteelVipers- --- We break for nobody-- --- G4Ever-- |
Zen TseTse
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Posted - 2006.07.13 14:00:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Chenister
Originally by: Zen TseTse Edited by: Zen TseTse on 13/07/2006 03:10:27
Originally by: Paddlefoot Aeon
Originally by: Xrak So whats the reasons then?
**Please note that the opinions contained herein are those of Paddlefoot, and do not necessairly reflect the official position of SPARTA command or member corps***
D2 has been an ally of SPARTA for a very long time. When D2 has needed help, SPARTA has done the best we can to support and assist D2.
However, when SPARTA and other allies require support in return, D2 has not been there to get out backs. They have been fairweather friends, assisting only when it furthered their own interests.
We, after much debate, have decided to stand up for ourselves and come out of D2's shadow.
Im new but...
If your "long tiem friend" isnt there for you, the solution isnt to declare war.
And it seems if you merely wanted to "stand up for yourselves" and get out from D2's shadow... you wouldnt team with GOONs.
But hey... whatever. Enjoy the new shadow...
setting - isn't declaring war... =P
Like i said, im new (very new).
But seems to me if you werent effectively declaring war you would set nuetral and not engage in NAP + support combat with GOONS.
Anyways, in my short time in fade i got to play with some SPARTA and respect them, albiet many were STEMP. I guess this game revolves around drama tho =)
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Grimpak
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Posted - 2006.07.13 14:01:00 -
[140]
Originally by: d4ve can i have some popcorns even tho im right in the middle of it? pls
/me passes some -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.07.13 14:19:00 -
[141]
/Laythun strokes his Crystal ball...
I see anger...i see pain...i see bright lights...i see..i see dead...people...
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geewiz
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Posted - 2006.07.13 14:23:00 -
[142]
Wow this thread is like some cheap soap opera on TV. As well as about as true to real happenings from some quarters
I've had very little dealings with Sparta till recently and took them at their word they would stay neutral in this, but the level of backstabbing is truly amazing (especially to your former friends in D2) hell i'm annoyed at what you've done to them I can only imagine how they feel about you
Also agree with Rytir's post looks like we have few alt fanboi's makes me feel all special that someone hates us so much
Gee
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Satomi Roboto
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Posted - 2006.07.13 14:30:00 -
[143]
I am not exactly an alt as most of my corp know who I really am and so will a load of other corps out there in the universe. At the end of the day who cares as I am still going to get out there in my ship and do the best I can alongside my Sparta team mates, I am not afraid to lose my ship...all of them in fact.
Regarding the history between D2 and Sparta...whatever, I don't care about it. Over the last few weeks I had seen a decline in the relationships between us and them, we would try to take a stand against something and they would muscle in and say "don't do it or else", so we didn't...then we get rumours of our pilots flying through Venal and D2 would pipe up and say "get out of Venal or we will shoot you", so our boys got out of Venal. Little things which build up over time leave you feeling a little jaded thinking "with friends like these...etc".
The simple truth is that we didn't want to be friends with D2 any more. NAP'ing Goons and setting D2 to negative may not be the best way to dive right in and say that we have had enough. It might have been better to take baby steps and say "ok D2, we're setting you to neutral and severing our ties, good luck in the future etc."...that might have worked but hey, it is what it is...no going back now. It might also have been better to get us through the IRON/FLA fiasco first too.
Sink or swim I will follow my orders, I like Sparta and I like Deklein. There are many, many good people here in spite of all the nastiness and tubthumping to suggest the opposite. I wish the communication from the top was better but you can't have everything. I also understand that too much talk leads to indecisiveness and at least we made a decision based on our gut feeling so kudos for that. Respect also to those alliances and corps who have thrown their hat into the ring and taken a stand on either side, at least it stops all the muttering and cloak and dagger ****.
It's a jungle out there...
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SaorAlba
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Posted - 2006.07.13 14:32:00 -
[144]
I am not going to say something like " R.I.P Sparta allaince" cause that would be so lame. Let me just reverse this and say" Sparta Allaince were gonne RIP you apart. Seeya soon.
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BOSSMAN69
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Posted - 2006.07.13 14:38:00 -
[145]
Originally by: SaorAlba I am not going to say something like " R.I.P Sparta allaince" cause that would be so lame. Let me just reverse this and say" Sparta Allaince were gonne RIP you apart. Seeya soon.
Signed
Victories are only possible if there is combat
Combat is only possible if there is WAR
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Gedekan
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Posted - 2006.07.13 14:39:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Laythun /Laythun strokes his Crystal ball...
I see anger...i see pain...i see bright lights...i see..i see dead...people...
i see a lot of fun ingame, lets have some nice battles! wolle Rose kaufe?
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Renowned
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Posted - 2006.07.13 14:51:00 -
[147]
Thanks Sparta, nice mess you made, not just for your region but others as well.
You just NAP'ed a KNOWN PIRATE ALLIANCE.
Yeah, you heard me, might not mean much to you big 0.0 boyos, but down here in Placid, goon likes to attempt to pirate, any goon, anywhere, is KOS.
Now that some of my friends are now in Sparta (ORC), I do not know how to react to this.
ORC has always been a staunch supporter of Anti-piracy, yet now... what am I to think? Do they support this move, or are they as disgusted by the blatant disregard to EVEverse wide policies.
I completely understand D2's positioning, this is all about the trav incident, and frankly, after reading this, and having friends in the NFC alliance, I am not surprised it fell.
It's leadership had little control over their corps, apparently, and could not work out a minor dispute over Goon invasion, who are at the moment the real threat.
I hope, that Sparta's leadership realize the huge mistake they are making. If they do not this could reverbrate around many low sector zones. --------------------------------------------------
Interested in Anti-Pirate Activity in Placid Region?
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Alaesa
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Posted - 2006.07.13 14:54:00 -
[148]
as far as I understand it. NFC wanted their cake and too eat it. FLA said no, with the help of IRON they were hurting NFC alot.
From a post earlier, it looks like both sides attempted to hire MC.
I would guess that NFC disbanded mainly because they were about to go pop anyway what with MC up in the area.
So NFC join SPARTA and try to take the entire area and napping the GOONS hoping to force everyone to surrender only to make veryone angry at their behavior and give themselves a mortal wound. All we have to do is wait till see how long they take to die.
Im curious how much help the GOONS can actually be what with their fights with D2.
Will be fun to watch.
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Alierite
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Posted - 2006.07.13 14:56:00 -
[149]
Ouchie.. i guess no-one learnt anything from tribute Baskstabbing makes people not like you doh |
Alaesa
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Posted - 2006.07.13 14:58:00 -
[150]
oh, must not forget the trav incident of supreme retardness.
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Bitter Vet
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Posted - 2006.07.13 14:59:00 -
[151]
Edited by: Bitter Vet on 13/07/2006 14:59:38 i don't know what's funnier, d2's clients all revolting because they see d2 as weak and incompetent, or d2 having to hire MC to attack Sparta because they can't beat them otherwise
edit: oh yeah im sure fla just hired them by themselves they had no help from IRON or D2 I'm sure hahaah
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Laythun
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Posted - 2006.07.13 15:03:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Bitter Vet Edited by: Bitter Vet on 13/07/2006 14:59:38 i don't know what's funnier, d2's clients all revolting because they see d2 as weak and incompetent, or d2 having to hire MC to attack Sparta because they can't beat them otherwise
edit: oh yeah im sure fla just hired them by themselves they had no help from IRON or D2 I'm sure hahaah
Hi alt.
I can say stuff too. Watch this
Originally by: Bitter Vet
aLT rubbish
Look mom i quoted an alt.
See You In Space Cowboy |
Bitter Vet
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Posted - 2006.07.13 15:04:00 -
[153]
you can quote it all you want, doesn't make it not true
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Vanguard Secundus
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Posted - 2006.07.13 15:09:00 -
[154]
Originally by: Bitter Vet you can quote it all you want, doesn't make it not true
Haha, Like the truth matters, Its all about what people perceive to be the truth, and even then, people ignore it...
TribalWar.com: We choose to waive the right to remain silent. |
Imran
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Posted - 2006.07.13 15:09:00 -
[155]
sweet a reason to log in.
EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful |
Deidranna
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Posted - 2006.07.13 15:10:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Imran sweet a reason to log in.
ohnoes...
d
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Doragee
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Posted - 2006.07.13 15:24:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Bitter Vet you can quote it all you want, doesn't make it not true
Posting as an alt doesn't make it any better at all...but at least: He (Laythum) got ballz, you deffo not... --
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Bitter Vet
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Posted - 2006.07.13 15:27:00 -
[158]
hold on let me log in SirMolle and ill post ok
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Doragee
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Posted - 2006.07.13 15:28:00 -
[159]
Edited by: Doragee on 13/07/2006 15:28:46 That would at least be a step in the right direction...but: Doesn't he get too angry being called a lame alt?
Edit: Btw., if you're a Goonie-alt...plz update your KB...some are missing... --
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Imran
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Posted - 2006.07.13 15:31:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Deidranna
Originally by: Imran sweet a reason to log in.
ohnoes...
d
Somebody has to loose alot of ships to hurt the IRON K/D ratio!!! *hides from darko*
weeee ;D
<3
EwokPoacher: Why hate Gallente? Blackest Sheep: Because we are beautiful |
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Trespasser
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Posted - 2006.07.13 15:40:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Imran sweet a reason to log in.
oh noez its over now imrans here xD
My name is Trespasser and I approved this Message!
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tyrol
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Posted - 2006.07.13 15:45:00 -
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*tyrol stops beating his drums, adjusts his tinfoil hat slightly, steals some popcorn and sits back to enjoy the rest of the show
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Franky B
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Posted - 2006.07.13 15:55:00 -
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... starting to miss the ol' "deklein for IRON, fade for G" days with all this tomfooery. tis about time deklein got the fat trimmed TBH, far too many cooks *****footing around the broth.
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Renowned
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Posted - 2006.07.13 15:59:00 -
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I'm still concerned over a major alliance with supposed anti-piracy alignments NAPping Goon. --------------------------------------------------
Interested in Anti-Pirate Activity in Placid Region?
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Zimi Vlasic
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Posted - 2006.07.14 02:41:00 -
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Edited by: Zimi Vlasic on 14/07/2006 02:46:17
Originally by: Helios Elemental Edited by: Helios Elemental on 14/07/2006 01:30:37
Originally by: Archangel Deck Edited by: Archangel Deck on 13/07/2006 03:38:13 So instead of peace like we wanted, Sparta let itself be controled by NFC napped GoonSwarm and now we have another war
Remember it was Sparta that came forward and told FLA/IRON to get out of dek, our one and only target was NFC, aww well fun to see Sparta die as well
Also remember it was GoonSwarm that prevented D2 from being able to help u even if they wanted to
IRON/FLA/CORE wanted peace? If by peace you mean to forcibly, and without just cause, take control of Deklein for your own interests at the expense of the current residents, then sure! Being that a lot of ex-NFC corps were INVITED to Sparta because we weren't left with many other options at the time, presupposing that we are controlling Sparta is so far off base I can't even begin to understand why you'd unjustifiably post something like that.
And your last statement, "even if they wanted to" --> that's the point, D2 didn't want to help, and fighting gewns was the perfect excuse not to.
You're calling the loss of the Cloud Ring stations and an intrusion into Fade an "excuse not to help"
You are way more gone than I could ever have imagined. Was D2 supposed to leave goons in cloud ring to help relieve what was at the time a much more minor issue?
What in the world crap are you being fed? Crap in, crap out.
tbow mentioned tinfoil hats, but he forgot to mention that Sparta were the ones wearing them.
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ph33rf4ct0ry
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Posted - 2006.07.14 02:53:00 -
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Reminds me of a few months ago when FE alined with [5] Because [G] was leaving them to die.
Member of the POST WITH YOUR MAIN SOCIETY |
Lorth
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Posted - 2006.07.14 02:55:00 -
[167]
Originally by: Zimi Vlasic
You're calling the loss of the Cloud Ring stations and an intrusion into Fade an "excuse not to help"
You are way more gone than I could ever have imagined. Was D2 supposed to leave goons in cloud ring to help relieve what was at the time a much more minor issue?
What in the world crap are you being fed? Crap in, crap out.
tbow mentioned tinfoil hats, but he forgot to mention that Sparta were the ones wearing them.
What I was talking about on the other page. Sparta members, you need to step back and think for a second. Ask your self, would leave a region to be taken over to assist an ally, fight anouther ally, in a fight that they started.
Read that sentance over a couple times, and you'll figure out how this whole situation came about, and have the irresistable urge to slap your own leaders up side the head.
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Ur Dirac
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Posted - 2006.07.14 02:57:00 -
[168]
D2 is acting like a jilted lover.
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN I TOOK YOU FOR GRANTED, WHY ARE YOU LEAVING MEEEEEEEE"
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Lorth
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Posted - 2006.07.14 02:59:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Ur Dirac D2 is acting like a jilted lover.
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN I TOOK YOU FOR GRANTED, WHY ARE YOU LEAVING MEEEEEEEE"
Not really. I think most of D2 are bewilderd by the desision making of sparta leadership, and are still scratching thier head saying "WTF" in regards to this whole situation.
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Attak
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Posted - 2006.07.14 03:58:00 -
[170]
The funny thing is, I blame all alliances involved. You all had a part in starting this conflict. Sparta made a decision based on one or two people without talking to the so-called council about it, and let me assure you there were plenty of "wtf"'s floating around in alliance chat when the announcement came out. Be that as it may, Sparta will burn. I didn't like NFC for many reasons, and when they merged with Sparta, then napped goons we sealed our fate.
Now we've got an alliance without POS structure, without competant FC's, without industrial organization, without allies, without sound leadership and without reliable internal and external communication.
GL everyone, some will need it more than others.
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Malecoda
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Posted - 2006.07.14 04:21:00 -
[171]
Honestly, I am shocked.
I have never seen much of Sparta Alliance but their lackluster camps in F7C. Usually consisting of small ships, stacked with jammers, warping to a safespot if anything bigger than a single shuttle made its way to the gate.
If I was IRON or D2 I would be worried, sitting in the same system for hours on end waiting for Sparta Alliance to leave their safespots or undock can cause a severe moral loss for D2 and IRON's troops. Combined with the awesome strategies of Goonfleet and their superior command, this seems to be a grim time for IRON and D2.
Seriously I wouldn't be able to do it, one look at Remedial's thanatos setup and I won't even be able to log on for days. I would be laughing too hard to position my fingers correctly to type my details in.
GL MC, IRON and D2
To Sparta Alliance, I hope your alliance dies and everyone laughs at you for years to come.
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O'Sirius
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Posted - 2006.07.14 04:22:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Attak The funny thing is, I blame all alliances involved. You all had a part in starting this conflict. Sparta made a decision based on one or two people without talking to the so-called council about it, and let me assure you there were plenty of "wtf"'s floating around in alliance chat when the announcement came out. Be that as it may, Sparta will burn. I didn't like NFC for many reasons, and when they merged with Sparta, then napped goons we sealed our fate.
Now we've got an alliance without POS structure, without competant FC's, without industrial organization, without allies, without sound leadership and without reliable internal and external communication.
GL everyone, some will need it more than others.
Ok, I guess not all Sparta are insane. Too bad we're having to shoot the good ones along with the bad ones.
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Himphotep 87
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Posted - 2006.07.14 04:46:00 -
[173]
Sparta enemy?
Time to clean the space guys CrY MoRe n00b! |
Mama ISK
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Posted - 2006.07.14 04:59:00 -
[174]
Originally by: ph33rf4ct0ry Reminds me of a few months ago when FE alined with [5] Because [G] was leaving them to die.
QFT
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Dinique
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Posted - 2006.07.14 06:14:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Ur Dirac D2 is acting like a jilted lover.
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN I TOOK YOU FOR GRANTED, WHY ARE YOU LEAVING MEEEEEEEE"
Not really. I think most of D2 are bewilderd by the desision making of sparta leadership, and are still scratching thier head saying "WTF" in regards to this whole situation.
Why are you quoting our forums here? :'( _____
There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones
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GrumpyCat
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Posted - 2006.07.14 07:08:00 -
[176]
So let me get this straight.
FLA wanted to "hump more moons" as stated by the burn eden guy. FLA attacks NFC because NFC was hogging all the moons. IRON joins FLA for some unknown reason. FREE joins FLA/IRON because shooting people is fun. Sparta -10 FLA/IRON/FREE. 10 minutes later they say "my bad" and restore standings NFC guy is caught helping goonies so d2 -10 them. NFC disbands and a bunch of the former nfc corps move to sparta. Not sure what happened here but IRON/FREE/FLA and Sparta start to war it out. FLA/IRON hire MC for their war effort even though they stated they were winning. Sparta naps goons and -10 d2 claiming d2 was helping ignoring them(maybe its a language barrior thing?) Bandwagon begins and everyone in the north -10 Sparta.
I'm sure i'm missing a bunch of things so feel free to add the other stuff.
This stuff is better than day time television.
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Jin'Roh
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Posted - 2006.07.14 07:14:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Mama ISK
Originally by: ph33rf4ct0ry Reminds me of a few months ago when FE alined with [5] Because [G] was leaving them to die.
QFT
it was fe/pa/nbsi - .5. no g involved...
jin
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Alts RUs
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Posted - 2006.07.14 07:23:00 -
[178]
I am a Sparta member. I cannot post with my main, but I will give you my point of view, and I know that others share it as well.
I am not at all happy with going against D2 and Razor. Iron and FLA, fine, they deserve it, but we have gotten so much help from G that we wouldn't even be here if it wasn't for them. But I will not abandon my corp and alliance because I disagree with a decision.
So, I will do my utmost to fight our enemies, but it is with a heavy heart I lock any D2 or Razor. |
Raaki
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Posted - 2006.07.14 07:28:00 -
[179]
Edited by: Raaki on 14/07/2006 07:28:31
Originally by: tbow10 Edited by: tbow10 on 13/07/2006 02:49:50 Edited by: tbow10 on 13/07/2006 02:49:24 As of today Sparta will be napping goons and setting d2/rzr/cdc -. We would like to wish all our old friends best of luck. This was a vary hard move for us to make we will see you on the field. Let us have fun and some smack free frights.
tbow spr exec
Hahaha Your sure showing your fathers aspirations now Tbow.
It's funny how this all reverts back to the source.
Are you sure it's not you Masterblade playing on your son's account to still have a go at Ruling The North
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Hair
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Posted - 2006.07.14 07:30:00 -
[180]
Originally by: ph33rf4ct0ry Reminds me of a few months ago when FE alined with [5] Because [G] was leaving them to die.
Let's see, F-E couldn't beat hold their space vs an enemy a 3rd of it's size, and Sparta sees a power vacuum and does a grab for a region of space while not under attack themselves. I can see why you'd get the two situations confused
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cryptic edge
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Posted - 2006.07.14 07:45:00 -
[181]
Originally by: GrumpyCat So let me get this straight. FLA wanted what was promised to us. FLA attacks NFC because NFC was blocking us in. IRON joins FLA for assistance. FREE joins FLA/IRON because shooting people is fun. Sparta -10 FLA/IRON/FREE. 10 minutes later they say "my bad" and restore standings NFC tries to hire MC. FLA hires MC, MC says we'll be there in a week NFC guy is caught helping goonies so d2 -10 them. NFC disbands and a bunch of the former nfc corps move to sparta. Sparta says "NFC space belongs to us and theres nothing you can do about it" Sparta naps goons and -10 d2 claiming d2 was helping ignoring them(maybe its a language barrior thing?) Bandwagon begins and everyone in the north -10 Sparta.
Fixed for you
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d4ve
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Posted - 2006.07.14 07:52:00 -
[182]
Edited by: d4ve on 14/07/2006 07:53:27
Originally by: cryptic edge Sparta says "NFC space belongs to us and theres nothing you can do about it"
technically.. they said they wanted FLA space too. meaning they wanted all of dek for themselves.
funny thing is, we would have been happy if they'd just stayed out of it like they did in the beginning. the major NFC corps joining sparta was pushing it, but if they (sparta) had just stayed up in the two constellations to the west of dek this could have been settled.
but no, i guess the addition of a few more corps meant they would have to have the whole of dek to be able to survive.. hmm. survive? wrong word i guess. ___
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Tozmeister
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Posted - 2006.07.14 07:55:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Heero Yuy Just for the record:
FLA does not have any kind of NAP with Goons. If they show up in Dek in the course Sparta being removed, we will shoot. Hope that's clear enough.
Easy to say that though when you know full well that goonies will not come into Dek and you will not go into any region held by goonies thanks to a cosy little OOG agreement between KHM and Goonies. ---------------------------------------------------
The Braying sheep on my TV screen Make this boy shout, make this boy scream - The Jam (1980) |
cryptic edge
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Posted - 2006.07.14 08:05:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Tozmeister
Originally by: Heero Yuy Just for the record:
FLA does not have any kind of NAP with Goons. If they show up in Dek in the course Sparta being removed, we will shoot. Hope that's clear enough.
Easy to say that though when you know full well that goonies will not come into Dek and you will not go into any region held by goonies thanks to a cosy little OOG agreement between KHM and Goonies.
Actually they told us the next day they cant ensure that. So in that regard, all bets are off. I for one was hoping we could keep them at a point of just staying out of it personally.
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Doragee
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Posted - 2006.07.14 08:07:00 -
[185]
Originally by: ph33rf4ct0ry Reminds me of a few months ago when FE alined with [5] Because [G] was leaving them to die.
So...you're truely admitting that the whole F-E couldn't resist w/o the help of [G]?? That an ally w. about nearly 2k members were not able to act on their owns w/o the help of app. 500 G's?? Is this really true?? --
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Acwron
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Posted - 2006.07.14 08:21:00 -
[186]
Originally by: ph33rf4ct0ry Reminds me of a few months ago when FE alined with [5] Because [G] was leaving them to die.
Except G told FE, NBSI and PA months before that they were not allys of G anymore. So G had no obligation to help them. And since you don't seem to know G promised to help FE but they were already in such bad shape they couldn't wait a week and napped .5.. That settled it.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.07.14 08:30:00 -
[187]
Originally by: tyrol *tyrol sits in the corner with his tin foil hat on merrily banging away on buddrows war drums 0_o
Sounds painful.
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FireFoxx80
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Posted - 2006.07.14 08:41:00 -
[188]
Originally by: GhostStarWolf ...chatlogs...
And? Posting 3 posts worth of chatlogs just annoys people. You could at least have saved 5 minutes of my life and summarised it.
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Conram
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Posted - 2006.07.14 09:15:00 -
[189]
Although I can not speak for D¦, I wanna drop a line here I think that is common sense. This is my opinion and not an official statement.
The old Sparta guys have been good neighbours and friends for a long time. This friendship is too valuable to drop it just because of a temper. We don¦t want to fight you, but if you go on this way we won¦t hesitate to do so.
Nowadays, people sacrifice honour in exchange for some (killing) fun. That¦s sad, but it¦s their decision. But on the other hand, some people like Sacred Templars live those ideals like we do, and are willing to die for them. To you and the others like you: Welcome, brothers !
Short version, bc this is EVE-O: Friends will always be friends. - Traitors, die !
Conram
*** Proud member of the X-Trading Company and Ex-President of the XETIC Federation *** |
Furycharm
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Posted - 2006.07.14 09:21:00 -
[190]
Originally by: GrumpyCat So let me get this straight.
FLA wanted to "hump more moons" as stated by the burn eden guy. FLA attacks NFC because NFC was hogging all the moons. IRON joins FLA for some unknown reason. FREE joins FLA/IRON because shooting people is fun. Sparta -10 FLA/IRON/FREE. 10 minutes later they say "my bad" and restore standings NFC guy is caught helping goonies so d2 -10 them. NFC disbands and a bunch of the former nfc corps move to sparta. Not sure what happened here but IRON/FREE/FLA and Sparta start to war it out. FLA/IRON hire MC for their war effort even though they stated they were winning. Sparta naps goons and -10 d2 claiming d2 was helping ignoring them(maybe its a language barrior thing?) Bandwagon begins and everyone in the north -10 Sparta.
I'm sure i'm missing a bunch of things so feel free to add the other stuff.
This stuff is better than day time television.
right uptil here
Sparta -10 FLA/IRON/FREE.
10 minutes later they say "my bad" and restore standings - following orders from D2 or they would set us to -10, tho promising that IF IRON/FLA did attack SPARTA during this time that D" would assist SPARTA
NFC guy is caught helping goonies so d2 -10 them.
NFC disbands and a bunch of the former nfc corps move to sparta.
Not sure what happened here but IRON/FREE/FLA and Sparta start to war it out. - SPARTA tried claiming the NFC held stations, FLA thought sod this and attacked SPARTA (without informing SPARTA of the standing change (who's backstabbing here)
FLA/IRON hire MC, X13 and another small corp for their war effort even though they stated they were winning.
Sparta naps goons and -10 d2 claiming d2 was helping ignoring them(maybe its a language barrior thing?) - yeah completely ignoring our diplomats mails convo's etc....
Bandwagon begins and everyone in the north -10 Sparta.
Yes I am an alt in SPARTA however SPARTA does have strict communication orders so SPARTA members should NOT be posting on here unless a diplomat
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Emno
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Posted - 2006.07.14 09:42:00 -
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Originally by: Furycharm Not sure what happened here but IRON/FREE/FLA and Sparta start to war it out. - SPARTA tried claiming the NFC held stations, FLA thought sod this and attacked SPARTA (without informing SPARTA of the standing change (who's backstabbing here)
if sparta leadership didn't see taking those stations as declaring war on fla/iron i think you need smarter leadership.
Originally by: Furycharm FLA/IRON hire MC, X13 and another small corp for their war effort even though they stated they were winning.
didn't sparta hire x13 on themselves heh
Originally by: Furycharm Yes I am an alt in SPARTA however SPARTA does have strict communication orders so SPARTA members should NOT be posting on here unless a diplomat
worst rule ever good to see your working hard to prove how useless it is
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d4ve
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Posted - 2006.07.14 09:42:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Furycharm Yes I am an alt in SPARTA however SPARTA does have strict communication orders so SPARTA members should NOT be posting on here unless a diplomat
and you are a perfect example of why that is a good policy for sparta. ___
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Darko1107
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Posted - 2006.07.14 11:15:00 -
[193]
Once again, sparta MEMBERS just like NFC members seem to have no idea whats going on. If you guna kill your alliance, at least tell your members why. ------------------
Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus |
Davey Locke
VentureCorp CORE.
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Posted - 2006.07.14 12:05:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Darko1107 Once again, sparta MEMBERS just like NFC members seem to have no idea whats going on. If you guna kill your alliance, at least tell your members why.
Ssssshhh....Don't tell them that...its more fun to watch when its a surprise!!!
Plus I've just bought beer, pizza and popcorn!!! Oooh what a weekend its gonna be.....
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NAT Mav
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Posted - 2006.07.14 12:37:00 -
[195]
Edited by: NAT Mav on 14/07/2006 12:37:47 Stupid alts
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.14 12:38:00 -
[196]
Just to clarify, FREEE had no intentions of shooting Sparta. Once NFC went down, we pulled back to Fade to help out in I-UU. Although we had not engaged Sparta, they had no problems setting us -10, and shooting one of our pilots. Even so, we still came to an agreements that we had bigger fish to fry and we would stay out of it.
It's unfortunate that our long-time friends chose this path, but what's done is done.
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Assassin 2
D00M.
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Posted - 2006.07.14 12:42:00 -
[197]
wow.. so thats two miner alliances fighting eachother (sparta + IRON) and now D2 and Goons brought into it. Gl to all sides the next few weeks will be very interesting to see.
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Darko1107
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 15:08:00 -
[198]
Edited by: Darko1107 on 14/07/2006 15:09:07
Originally by: Assassin 2 wow.. so thats two miner alliances fighting eachother (sparta + IRON) and now D2 and Goons brought into it. Gl to all sides the next few weeks will be very interesting to see.
Wow.. soo, thats 1 noob corp gone south to attack bob cos they lost a carrier to them. You thought instead of fighting them here, u'd just go gank thier miners... You guys rawk. ------------------
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kalac
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Posted - 2006.07.14 15:53:00 -
[199]
Well done SPARTA about time someone stood up to the D2 cry babes! Iron nice mess you made there in the north!
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Lunamariea Hawke
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Posted - 2006.07.14 16:01:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Lorth
Originally by: Ur Dirac D2 is acting like a jilted lover.
"WHAT DO YOU MEAN I TOOK YOU FOR GRANTED, WHY ARE YOU LEAVING MEEEEEEEE"
Not really. I think most of D2 are bewilderd by the desision making of sparta leadership, and are still scratching thier head saying "WTF" in regards to this whole situation.
Because they didnt listen perhaps?
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kalac
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Posted - 2006.07.14 16:26:00 -
[201]
Was D2 scratching there head's when IRON attacked your allies not so long ago the same allies that was helping you? or just maybe someone never thought of telling you! or you just never gave a damn! keep scratching D2
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GrumpyCat
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Posted - 2006.07.14 16:33:00 -
[202]
Originally by: cryptic edge
FLA wanted what was promised to us. FLA attacks NFC because NFC was blocking us in
From what i understand from the NFC statement, alek and be wrote the original deal and said NFC was in compliance. So was there some super secret contract. Do tell. We demand more drama.
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Francois duPari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 17:06:00 -
[203]
Originally by: kalac Was D2 scratching there head's when IRON attacked your allies not so long ago the same allies that was helping you? or just maybe someone never thought of telling you! or you just never gave a damn! keep scratching D2
this seems logical
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Artemis Drake
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 17:12:00 -
[204]
Originally by: tbow10 Edited by: tbow10 on 13/07/2006 02:49:50 Edited by: tbow10 on 13/07/2006 02:49:24 As of today Sparta will be napping goons and setting d2/rzr/cdc -. We would like to wish all our old friends best of luck. This was a vary hard move for us to make we will see you on the field. Let us have fun and some smack free frights.
tbow spr exec
You may add us to your - list as we are putting you on ours.
Have a nice day.
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Hair
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.14 17:12:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Francois ****ri
this seems logical
Quoted For Truth.
Great, at least starter corp opinion is clear now
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Kerashy
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Posted - 2006.07.14 17:55:00 -
[206]
my bet since start : D2 + IRON == LOVE
ok i'm out
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MetalZero
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Posted - 2006.07.14 18:23:00 -
[207]
To all my friends till in Sparta/NFC, it was a pleasure flight with you guys, pls be informed that you are - to ThunderCats.
See ya in BF, have fun all.
MetalZero ThunderCats Cho-Arrim-Coalition
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Lorth
Synchro.
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:02:00 -
[208]
Originally by: kalac Was D2 scratching there head's when IRON attacked your allies not so long ago the same allies that was helping you? or just maybe someone never thought of telling you! or you just never gave a damn! keep scratching D2
Well considering both parties were our allies, what would you have had us do? Choose one over the other? Or stay nuetral?
Frankly Sparta is in this mess because in large part they expected D2 to drop everything and come running to thier aid when ever asked. No matter that doing so would have ment D2 would have been attacking a long time ally. Not to mention simply packing up and leaving Cloud Ring to the goons.
Which is why I made the post earlier. If you believe the tripe thats being feed to you by your leaders, just stop for a moment. Use some common sence. It can't be a grand leap of logic to see why D2 did what they did.
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Goldfingerz
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:12:00 -
[209]
Its a dam shame when so many corps and alliances are basing there -10 standings on a one sided arguement, Sparta are refraining from replying to iron/d2/fla replies, yet sparta has not given responses.
Maybe at this time it would be futile to do so, as so many have taken sides with iron and co. So bye bye common sense, bye bye understanding..
I hope sparta survives this, based on the propganda that iron and co are feeding it maybe too late for any alliances to trust them based on irons efforts.
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predator250
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:13:00 -
[210]
Firstly may i say, SPARTA are not the bad allies, they seem to have helped when ever D2 asked, but when they ask, nobody came to their aid(apart from their enemies suprisingly, goons). Further more for the comment about 50 ninjas VS 300 retards, the ninjas are getting their ass wooped. I would like to chat a little bit about IRON/FLA but seen as the cant fight battles by themselfes they dont seem worthy of it. Also about the comment from the TRIOPTIOM guy who says sparta will burn, what do they know, they got whooped by gaia. Good Luck and God Speed SPARTA. Hopefully you will find more luck with your new allies.
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O'Sirius
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:50:00 -
[211]
Originally by: predator250 Firstly may i say, SPARTA are not the bad allies, they seem to have helped when ever D2 asked, but when they ask, nobody came to their aid(apart from their enemies suprisingly, goons). Further more for the comment about 50 ninjas VS 300 retards, the ninjas are getting their ass wooped. I would like to chat a little bit about IRON/FLA but seen as the cant fight battles by themselfes they dont seem worthy of it.
Wtf are you talking about?
You make a claim on systems we won from NFC when you weren't even in the fight and then expected D2 to support you in this?
As for your "can't fight their own battles" comment, don't involve IRON in it. It was FLA who hired MC, and from what I understand it was a counter bid against the one from NFC. Quite a smart and amusing move as far as I'm concerned.
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Deidranna
SteelVipers YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.07.14 19:58:00 -
[212]
bull**** its only about wasted time
deidranna
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geewiz
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.14 20:02:00 -
[213]
Edited by: geewiz on 14/07/2006 20:05:18
Originally by: Goldfingerz Its a dam shame when so many corps and alliances are basing there -10 standings on a one sided arguement, Sparta are refraining from replying to iron/d2/fla replies, yet sparta has not given responses.
Maybe at this time it would be futile to do so, as so many have taken sides with iron and co. So bye bye common sense, bye bye understanding..
I hope sparta survives this, based on the propganda that iron and co are feeding it maybe too late for any alliances to trust them based on irons efforts.
Wow you said IRON 4 times well done, another alt fanboi wow lots of them appearing can we collect you like pannini stickers?
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geewiz
InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.14 20:04:00 -
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Edited by: geewiz on 14/07/2006 20:04:48 ack double post
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Piefke
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Posted - 2006.07.14 20:28:00 -
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Originally by: Assassin 2 wow.. so thats two miner alliances fighting eachother (sparta + IRON) and now D2 and Goons brought into it. Gl to all sides the next few weeks will be very interesting to see.
next weeks will be hard for each side and a lot of good fights will be in dek. Anyhow, who wins, wish us all lots of fun Member of the POST WITH YOUR ALT SOCIETY |
Yatar Kindoki
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.14 20:39:00 -
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I'm a member/X-leader of Sparta Alliance and DO NOT agree with this foolish decision.
This is a result of lousy leadership, false intel and a puppet council.
I apologize to all our friends, err now x-friends, for having such stupid leadership. Please kill Sparta as quick and painful as possible.
As I read this thread, I see so many pilots that did so much for me & Sparta. The decision to stab all those people in the back was not mine & I will have no part of.
I'm a hardcore carrier/pvp pilot looking for a good home....
BURN SPARTA BURN!
GL& Have fun Goon, FLA, Iron, D2 & Others. Sparta on the other hand can rot in hell....
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Dragerest
Total Warehouse Logistics
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Posted - 2006.07.14 20:43:00 -
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Edited by: Dragerest on 14/07/2006 20:43:51 maybe this is all a test to see how well sparta can defend it's space, and bring the fight to others.. just a idea.. hope to see some nice videos..
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Thanos Firebringer
Kings of Kill
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Posted - 2006.07.14 21:18:00 -
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Originally by: Dragerest Edited by: Dragerest on 14/07/2006 20:43:51 maybe this is all a test to see how well sparta can defend it's space, and bring the fight to others.. just a idea.. hope to see some nice videos..
This was a laughable idea. Thanks. ----------------------------------------- Pimpin' hoes and slammin' cadillac doors......
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Lorth
Synchro.
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Posted - 2006.07.14 23:20:00 -
[219]
Is it just me, or have the last couple pages been filled with pro-sparta alts? Or maybe D2 have just managed to annoy the state war accadamy that much?
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Stamm
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.14 23:55:00 -
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Originally by: Lorth Is it just me, or have the last couple pages been filled with pro-sparta alts? Or maybe D2 have just managed to annoy the state war accadamy that much?
As per normal these forums are rendered near useless by an army of propaganda nub alts. The moderators have no policy whatsoever to deal with them, other than lock threads when they get derailed.
These are supposed to be the corporation and alliance discussions, it's silly that people can spout propaganda anonymously.
The sooner they start banning whole accounts in game the sooner we reduce the alt posts.
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BurnYaBad
Nova Forge Industries Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.14 23:56:00 -
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Im not inpressed with your skill at fibbing Nat, you had free in a4l waiting to be aggressed.
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.15 00:11:00 -
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Originally by: BurnYaBad Im not inpressed with your skill at fibbing Nat, you had free in a4l waiting to be aggressed.
if by "waiting to be aggressed" you mean "seeing where we stand in sparta's eyes" then I completely agree with you.
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BurnYaBad
Nova Forge Industries Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.15 01:05:00 -
[223]
lol
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Ur Dirac
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.15 05:44:00 -
[224]
Can we officially declare this to be the third GNW now?
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.15 05:53:00 -
[225]
Originally by: BurnYaBad Im not inpressed with your skill at fibbing Nat, you had free in a4l waiting to be aggressed.
And once again, you have half the information.
Esgato acted on his own, went up to A4L to bait you guys into shooting. At this point we did not know where we stodd with you. Of course, you passed the test flawlessly, and shot him. Even then, we still stayed out of the conflict until you NAP'd Goons.
Now who is the better friend? The corp that maintains standings even after being shot, or the alliance that sets a corp to -10 because their other friends are attacking them?
Sparta had absolutely zero intel to suggest that we would join IRON/FLA in attacking them following NFC's surrender. We made it fairly clear to anyone that asked that we would remain concentrated in Fade until Goons were pushed out.
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Dragerest
Total Warehouse Logistics
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Posted - 2006.07.15 05:55:00 -
[226]
Edited by: Dragerest on 15/07/2006 05:56:55
Originally by: Ur Dirac Can we officially declare this to be the third GNW now?
no as saying in the next 48 hours sparta will be losing more members, or so the rumor has it.. people are jumping ship because of bad leadership.. if i'm wrong please tell me how. i don't like to be a lair..
edit. drunk posting 4tl
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.15 06:02:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Dragerest Edited by: Dragerest on 15/07/2006 05:56:55
Originally by: Ur Dirac Can we officially declare this to be the third GNW now?
no as saying in the next 48 hours sparta will be losing more members, or so the rumor has it.. people are jumping ship because of bad leadership.. if i'm wrong please tell me how. i don't like to be a lair..
edit. drunk posting 4tl
Well, judging by the number of convos asking about applications, I'd say there may be some truth to that. If not complete corps, I know there are alot of members looking elsewhere, particularly from corps that recently joined Sparta in hopes of remaining in Dek without the fighting.
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Dragerest
Total Warehouse Logistics
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Posted - 2006.07.15 06:30:00 -
[228]
Originally by: NATMav
Originally by: Dragerest Edited by: Dragerest on 15/07/2006 05:56:55
Originally by: Ur Dirac Can we officially declare this to be the third GNW now?
no as saying in the next 48 hours sparta will be losing more members, or so the rumor has it.. people are jumping ship because of bad leadership.. if i'm wrong please tell me how. i don't like to be a lair..
edit. drunk posting 4tl
Well, judging by the number of convos asking about applications, I'd say there may be some truth to that. If not complete corps, I know there are alot of members looking elsewhere, particularly from corps that recently joined Sparta in hopes of remaining in Dek without the fighting.
yep feel sorry for the guys that got dumbed in the mud, and didn't see it coming.
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TheDevilsJury
O.R.C. Outrage Compliant
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Posted - 2006.07.15 07:14:00 -
[229]
Originally by: NATMav Well, judging by the number of convos asking about applications, I'd say there may be some truth to that. If not complete corps, I know there are alot of members looking elsewhere, particularly from corps that recently joined Sparta in hopes of remaining in Dek without the fighting.
Note that it although I'm sure this is true, we've had a small number of members leave our corp because they wished to remain in Sparta when we left. ----------------------- sig below
Originally by: ISD I don't think I've ever seen anyone hijack their own thread before
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.15 07:30:00 -
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Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 15/07/2006 07:30:40
Originally by: Ur Dirac Can we officially declare this to be the third GNW now?
i'd say no ... i'd estimate it is over before the discussion if this conflict deserves the name GNW III has settled down
btw - what was the GNW II?? ___________________
-Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
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Zimi Vlasic
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.15 07:39:00 -
[231]
Originally by: TheDevilsJury
Originally by: NATMav Well, judging by the number of convos asking about applications, I'd say there may be some truth to that. If not complete corps, I know there are alot of members looking elsewhere, particularly from corps that recently joined Sparta in hopes of remaining in Dek without the fighting.
Note that it although I'm sure this is true, we've had a small number of members leave our corp because they wished to remain in Sparta when we left.
That's understandable as well.
The need for revenge runs strong with some.
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cryptic edge
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.15 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 15/07/2006 07:30:40
Originally by: Ur Dirac Can we officially declare this to be the third GNW now?
i'd say no ... i'd estimate it is over before the discussion if this conflict deserves the name GNW III has settled down
btw - what was the GNW II??
Everyones here, its GNW II (yes, 2 there has to be a 2 before we can have a 3 )
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Calgura
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.15 08:47:00 -
[233]
Just to ask stupid, what was GNW I?
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Killer2
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.15 09:03:00 -
[234]
The Arrow Project has set Sparta Alliance to -10 in response to their decision to align themselves with hostile entities.
Regards, Killer2, Minister of Foreign Affairs, The ARROW Project
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Elayne Atreus
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Posted - 2006.07.15 11:12:00 -
[235]
Killer2 what did Greenland ever do to you?
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Thirler
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Posted - 2006.07.15 11:43:00 -
[236]
Its all about killing baby seals with puppy eyes.
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NereSky
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.15 11:59:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Calgura Just to ask stupid, what was GNW I?
A massive War involving almost everyone in Eve, the topic is so big u will have to peruse the old forums and maybe get to look at a Vid made recording the Historical event. Suffice to say the Topic of the GNW still is a sore point now and best left out of this Thread.
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Turkantho
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.15 13:24:00 -
[238]
Originally by: NereSky
Suffice to say the Topic of the GNW still is a sore point now and best left out of this Thread.
yes, the amount of people still holding out of game grudges against their opponents from GNW times never cease to amaze me ________
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