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Azurfale
Machtpolitik Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.11.22 14:37:00 -
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6 months ago our CEO passed away, CCP was kind enough to give CEO to a member so that we could continue in that regard. At the time of his passing our corp was moving regions and so a lot of courier contracts were assigned to his character. GM told me yesterday to cancel the contracts so obviuosly he's never played before because the items will stay where they are. Also most our corp assets like BPOs etc are on his characters which is the stuff we'd really like to get back. CCP says we cannot get any of those items back.
Sorry if this is TL;DR but I thought there was precedent for this happening and the corp got all their stuff back (maybe they weren't moving at the time it happened so stuff was organized) and when i got the "we're not doing **** to help you" response it kinda pissed me off. |

Chevalleis
The Legendary Conquest Pandorum Invictus
14
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Posted - 2011.11.22 14:41:00 -
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You know, taking your CEOs stuff would be kinda like gravelooting. |

Jovan Geldon
Lead Farmers Kill It With Fire
175
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Posted - 2011.11.22 14:44:00 -
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If the stuff was in his hangar then it belonged to HIM, not the corp. Therefore, you have no claim to it (and rightly so, in my opinion, as it sets a dangerous precedent). Guess you're shit outta luck, son. |

Azurfale
Machtpolitik Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.11.22 14:44:00 -
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Not really asking for his stuff. Ships at least are clearly marked in his hanger for corp, and courier contracts cannot be completed without him.
Mostly I want people to get their stuff back, corp assets can be re-purchased (it would just be nice since they are collecting space dust anyway). When I was told we were not getting the assets back I asked about the courier contracts that were assigned to him. This is the response:
Edit: Posting GM correspondence is not allowed on the forums.
Obviously never played eve before or at least never done a courier contract. |

Bryant21
Interest Recovery Service
20
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Posted - 2011.11.22 14:57:00 -
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Scumbag Poster: Title Says CCP Wont Help, CCP Actually Helped. |

Just Lilly
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
4
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Posted - 2011.11.22 15:00:00 -
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I was expecting the usual "sniff sniff, he was lika a father to me.." etc etc
But this was even worse, no fake tears, no sad faces...just pure greed...
/shrugs
Another glorious day in EvE... |

Mara Villoso
Big Box
28
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Posted - 2011.11.22 15:04:00 -
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Azurfale wrote:6GM told me yesterday to cancel the contracts so obviuosly he's never played before because the items will stay where they are. Also most our corp assets like BPOs etc are on his characters which is the stuff we'd really like to get back. CCP says we cannot get any of those items back.
Sorry if this is TL;DR but I thought there was precedent for this happening and the corp got all their stuff back (maybe they weren't moving at the time it happened so stuff was organized) and when i got the "we're not doing **** to help you" response it kinda pissed me off. If they were corp assets and courier contracts were made out of corp hangars and/or the delivery box, then they'll drop back into those places. The lesson to take away from this is, don't let individuals pull all of the corp assets into their own hangars. Its a shame to have to learn it the hard way. |

Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
70
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Posted - 2011.11.22 15:05:00 -
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CCP doesn't know for sure he passed away. As disgusting as it would be, it could well have been a scam and he just stole everyone's stuff and let the sub run out until such time he feels safe to log on and move it all. No disrespect to your friend, i'm sure that's not the case, but CCP can't move assets from one char to another, or affect them in any way without being sure.
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Tear Miner
Republic University Minmatar Republic
42
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Posted - 2011.11.22 15:07:00 -
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I believe CCP has done all they can in this case. Graverobbing your CEO's hangar sets a dangerous precedent as was mentioned earlier.
TEST pets are worse than actual TEST. You disgust me. |

Mara Villoso
Big Box
28
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Posted - 2011.11.22 15:07:00 -
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Something just occurred to me. You say these are courier contracts. Who are the contracts to? If they're internal and there is no collateral, just accept and fail them. Problem solved. |
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Joe SMASH
You Got A Purty Mouth
33
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Posted - 2011.11.22 15:11:00 -
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Items, no matter how they are labeled, in personal hangars are owned by the player who owns the hangar. No exceptions.
if the items were placed in a corp hangar, then when CEO was transferred to new pilot, the items in corp hangers would be accessible to the new CEO (assuming no one else had roles).
Courier contracts to "expired" pilots always can be cancelled and the items go back to where the contract was formed. This is how it has always been. If those items are now in an outpost owned by someone who might be less than friendly, see if you can open up a diplomatic line and work out something. However, this is a good lesson to learn that you never ever keep really expensive stuff in a conquerable outpost. |

De'Veldrin
Element 27 Intrepid Crossing
100
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Posted - 2011.11.22 15:21:00 -
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Joe SMASH wrote:Items, no matter how they are labeled, in personal hangars are owned by the player who owns the hangar. No exceptions.
if the items were placed in a corp hangar, then when CEO was transferred to new pilot, the items in corp hangers would be accessible to the new CEO (assuming no one else had roles).
Courier contracts to "expired" pilots always can be cancelled and the items go back to where the contract was formed. This is how it has always been. If those items are now in an outpost owned by someone who might be less than friendly, see if you can open up a diplomatic line and work out something. However, this is a good lesson to learn that you never ever keep really expensive stuff in a conquerable outpost.
Or if you do, you keep a jump clone there to run the firesale.
Unsub or don't.-á I don't care what your reasons are, and neither does anyone else.-á Just click the button and go away - or don't. |

Khamned
Hikivirta
2
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Posted - 2011.11.22 15:33:00 -
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let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll? |

Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
53
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Posted - 2011.11.22 15:35:00 -
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Time to move on kid. Appreciate what you've got left.
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Komen
Capital Enrichment Services
40
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Posted - 2011.11.22 15:48:00 -
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I am the character whom all those things belong to. Please, CCP, dump them all in my hangar...in um...Jita. Yeah, that's a convenient spot to sell reclaim my belongings. |

Morganta
Peripheral Madness The Midget Mafia
364
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Posted - 2011.11.22 15:54:00 -
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Tear Miner wrote: TEST pets are worse than actual TEST. You disgust me.
The American public's reaction to the change was poor and the new cola was a major marketing failure. The subsequent reintroduction of Coke's original formula, re-branded as "Coca-Cola Classic", resulted in a significant gain in sales, leading to speculation that the introduction of the New Coke formula was just a marketing ploy |

AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
17
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Posted - 2011.11.22 17:14:00 -
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I spoke to your CEO on his deathbed and his dying wish was that I have all his stuff.
Make it so, CCP. |

Graelyn
Wolfsbrigade
79
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Posted - 2011.11.22 17:19:00 -
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Khamned wrote:let me guess, someone stole your sweetroll?
Dragons? It can't be. + Cardinal Graelyn + Owner/Operator, "The Summit"
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Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
342
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Posted - 2011.11.22 17:22:00 -
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Yeah.. i use to be a gravelooter like you.
Then i took an arrow to the knee. Rated ARG for Pirates. **** you. |

Captain Mastiff
2
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Posted - 2011.11.22 17:38:00 -
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Posting in support for CCP.
I for one would like to think that my online game persona would not be looted in the untimely even of my real life death. I find it warming that even in the event of saddening circumstances CCP still abide by their terms and conditions. The virtual items were in his account and therefore his property, you were merely stakeholders but most definitely not the owner at the end of the day.
Well done CCP and Rest in Peace to the person who died. |
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Midori Tsu
Evolution The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.11.22 17:51:00 -
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I think there's a bit of a misunderstanding here.
-You assigned courier contracts to him. -Accepted them -He passed away
Is this what happened? y/n |

Azurfale
Machtpolitik Test Friends Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.11.23 00:57:00 -
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Yes corp was moving, people had courier contracts assigned to him, he passed away. |

Duke Hamilton1
Judgment Day Technology SOLAR WING
0
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Posted - 2011.11.23 01:08:00 -
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Very sorry to hear about your loss. Only way to get around this would be if he left it in his will or last testament. CCP can't start DE-constructing accounts unless its in the persons wishes. Would be interesting to see if CCP followed a persons will in this respect. Anyway it all can be replaced in time. |

Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
506
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Posted - 2011.11.23 01:51:00 -
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The OP is right, the handling of CCP regarding this sad situation is despicable.
Also this puts my plans to corp infiltrate and then kill the CEO's on hold, as it seems to not be possible due to the stupid GMs. 84,000 AUR ($420) spent on NeX store for Troll and Profit. |

David Grogan
The Motley Crew Reborn
228
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Posted - 2011.11.23 02:18:00 -
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post ccp a copy of the ceo's death certificate. maybe then they might believe you. otherwise your out of luck it would seem Everytime you buy something that says "made in china" you are helping the rising unemployment in your own country unless you are from china, Buy locally produced goods and help create more jobs. |

Nova Fox
Novafox Shipyards
397
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Posted - 2011.11.23 02:25:00 -
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Rakshasa Taisab wrote:The OP is right, the handling of CCP regarding this sad situation is despicable.
Also this puts my plans to corp infiltrate and then kill the CEO's on hold, as it seems to not be possible due to the stupid GMs.
Ahem I used to dissapear from eve 6-9 months at a time.
And others knew about it.
What if I got reported as dead in that time frame what then?
I come back and find all of my stuff gone removed because somone claimed I was dead isnt a valid excuse to reposses something that clearly belonged to the person in question.
CCP took proper response and did the one thing that If I came back from my hiatus wouldnt surprise me if it where so that the CEO gets transfered.
How would you like if it your best friend knew you where going on a long business trip and tried to record you as dead. Would you like it if he stole all of your BPOs you privately owned?
Now the CEO holding onto the BPOs of the corp is a another manner but that is no different from CORP THEFT in a scenario such as this thus its allowed and further more TOUGH LUCK.
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Terminal Insanity
Convex Enterprises The Silent One's
122
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Posted - 2011.11.23 02:26:00 -
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Sorry but how does CCP know he actually died and you're not just scamming him on his vacation?
Sucks but if i could just say 'hey my ceo died gimme his stuffs' there wouldnt be many corporations left in eve |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2011.11.23 02:48:00 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:Sorry but how does CCP know he actually died and you're not just scamming him on his vacation?
Sucks but if i could just say 'hey my ceo died gimme his stuffs' there wouldnt be many corporations left in eve
by contacting the account owner ? like via e-mail ???
Then finish it with following line
If you dont answer this email in *some time* we would consider *some action* as appropriate ..
f.e. ??
Either way its not like its impossible. Even if he is not, not responding to such email will actually cover the come-back rage.
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Lugia3
Triangular Initiative STR8NGE BREW
0
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Posted - 2011.11.23 02:56:00 -
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If you don't mind mind me asking, how did your CEO die and how did you find out? |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2011.11.23 02:57:00 -
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Lugia3 wrote:If you don't mind mind me asking, how did your CEO die and how did you find out?
thats actually interesting question ...
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Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
156
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Posted - 2011.11.23 03:03:00 -
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At a guess, RL friends play EVE?
At a second guess, family post on his Facebook?
Someone made a point above, if one of his immediates contacted CCP and forwarded details such as a death cert etc there may be a case toward it.
However *not that this bit will come up in selective quoting but OH WELL* chances are if this was recent his immediates have bigger concerns and grievances than helping a few people he played with get their internet pixels back. Time and a place for these things, and in the big list of priorities, you won't be near the top. |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2011.11.23 03:04:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:At a guess, RL friends play EVE?
At a second guess, family post on his Facebook?
Someone made a point above, if one of his immediates contacted CCP and forwarded details such as a death cert etc there may be a case toward it.
However *not that this bit will come up in selective quoting but OH WELL* chances are if this was recent his immediates have bigger concerns and grievances than helping a few people he played with get their internet pixels back. Time and a place for these things, and in the big list of priorities, you won't be near the top.
fair enough..
altho i wouldnt post death certificate of relative to some gaming company ? Sounds like a really bad joke if you ask me .
at my post28 sound like optimal approach, which will does not burden anyone, except CCP employee. |

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
344
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Posted - 2011.11.23 03:09:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:At a guess, RL friends play EVE?
At a second guess, family post on his Facebook?
Someone made a point above, if one of his immediates contacted CCP and forwarded details such as a death cert etc there may be a case toward it.
However *not that this bit will come up in selective quoting but OH WELL* chances are if this was recent his immediates have bigger concerns and grievances than helping a few people he played with get their internet pixels back. Time and a place for these things, and in the big list of priorities, you won't be near the top. fair enough.. altho i wouldnt post death certificate of relative to some gaming company ? Sounds like a really bad joke if you ask me . at my post28 sound like optimal approach, which will does not burden anyone, except CCP employee.
You don't need to. On most countries a death certificate gets an entry into the obituary section of one or more newspapers. I'm pretty sure you can find that info on-line on official and reliable sources. A CEO of any small and up businesses its bound to appear on one.
Although you don't need to reveal your real name to CCP when you make an account. Rated ARG for Pirates. **** you. |

Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
156
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Posted - 2011.11.23 03:09:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:At a guess, RL friends play EVE?
At a second guess, family post on his Facebook?
Someone made a point above, if one of his immediates contacted CCP and forwarded details such as a death cert etc there may be a case toward it.
However *not that this bit will come up in selective quoting but OH WELL* chances are if this was recent his immediates have bigger concerns and grievances than helping a few people he played with get their internet pixels back. Time and a place for these things, and in the big list of priorities, you won't be near the top. fair enough.. altho i wouldnt post death certificate of relative to some gaming company ? Sounds like a really bad joke if you ask me . at my post28 sound like optimal approach, which will does not burden anyone, except CCP employee.
Problem with your post, person goes on a long ass self discovery sabbatical to "middle of f##king nowhere" like those people who spend half a year + up a mountain in Nepal for example.
He's informed the corp of this, set up directors, relocated assets etc.
In every situation there is the potential for it to backfire horribly. The only way to be 100% certain is through authentic documentation, however getting someone to waste time doing that (unless they also play the game themselves) is very unlikely.
Also if he passed away, wouldn't his bank account close and thus his game account essentially stop dead? |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2011.11.23 03:12:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:
Problem with your post, person goes on a long ass self discovery sabbatical to "middle of f##king nowhere" like those people who spend half a year + up a mountain in Nepal for example.
He's informed the corp of this, set up directors, relocated assets etc.
In every situation there is the potential for it to backfire horribly. The only way to be 100% certain is through authentic documentation, however getting someone to waste time doing that (unless they also play the game themselves) is very unlikely.
Also if he passed away, wouldn't his bank account close and thus his game account essentially stop dead?
Well there is an really small chance of that happening. Make a poll how many people playing EVE goes on such "journey"
It is still there, but then well its simple CCP offer compensation to the injured party, lets say three PLEXes and life time ban for this shenanigan Yep CCP would be at loss there but chances are really really small. |

Marlakh
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
11
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Posted - 2011.11.23 03:14:00 -
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I am sorry to hear of the OP's predicament. Of course, there's always the chance of it being a scam, but if not, my sincere condolences for his passing. This issue does remind me of an old concern and I'd like to share it.
Having been the CEO of a sov holding corp, I'd like to think of myself as having been a responsible leader (or at least tried to be). That means that I must not let my corp mates down like how the OP described, even in the event of my RL passing. Issues such as personal/corp assets, transfer of leadership roles, etc should not be left dangling even after the CEO's passing. Fine, joke about "Eve is Real" and that its a game, all you want. But I do feel that where real players' investments in time and effort are concerned, my responsibilites to them are equally real as well. I've actually considered leaving my login details and final instructions in my Will, but alas, the EULA and present game mechanics prevent a sure way of administering this during my term.
My suggestion, therefore, is to have CCP implement a Last Will and Testament mechanic, available as an option for every capsuleer. It can be in the form of a new tab, available under the Corporation button of the Neocom, allowing:
Players to specify the activation of any or all of the following actions after a pre-set date or period of time, if there is no response to a pre-set number of reminders to suspend the actions
Transfer of assets and isk to another specific player(s)
Transfer of CEO/Alliance Executor roles to another specific player(s)
Automatic broadcast of a certain message to the corp or alliance, or specific player(s)
While I believe this will be useful for the intent mentioned, it can also be a source of tears when such actions are forgotten and automatically carried out when the main player forgets to de-activate it and when a subscription runs out, or when the player becomes inactive. In which case, the onus is purely on the player himself and there will be delicious tears for us to all enjoy when a player loses all of his/her stuff due to neglect.
Any thoughts? |

Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
156
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Posted - 2011.11.23 03:14:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:
Problem with your post, person goes on a long ass self discovery sabbatical to "middle of f##king nowhere" like those people who spend half a year + up a mountain in Nepal for example.
He's informed the corp of this, set up directors, relocated assets etc.
In every situation there is the potential for it to backfire horribly. The only way to be 100% certain is through authentic documentation, however getting someone to waste time doing that (unless they also play the game themselves) is very unlikely.
Also if he passed away, wouldn't his bank account close and thus his game account essentially stop dead?
Well there is an really small chance of that happening. Make a poll how many people playing EVE goes on such "journey" It is still there, but then well its simple CCP offer compensation to the injured party, lets say three PLEXes and life time ban for this shenanigan  Yep CCP would be at loss there but chances are really really small.
It only needs to happen once for it to be a problem.
Any policy change to this effect needs to be foolproof, not to mention the fact you then need to explain to a potential f##k ton of people that you aren't really dead. |

Renan Ruivo
Hipernova Vera Cruz Alliance
344
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Posted - 2011.11.23 03:15:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Also if he passed away, wouldn't his bank account close and thus his game account essentially stop dead?
You'd be surprised with how many fucks a bank gives to someone who died =)
My father passed away 7 years ago with an unpaid debt, and the bank still sends letters to my house asking him to pay up, and offering deals and such. Mind you, the bank isn't asking me or anyone else for that matter, its asking him
One time i even considered sending a note of "adress change" to the bank so that they would send the bills to the cemetery instead.. but i don't think the old man deserves to be bothered tbh Rated ARG for Pirates. **** you. |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2011.11.23 03:18:00 -
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Caellach Marellus wrote:Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:
Problem with your post, person goes on a long ass self discovery sabbatical to "middle of f##king nowhere" like those people who spend half a year + up a mountain in Nepal for example.
He's informed the corp of this, set up directors, relocated assets etc.
In every situation there is the potential for it to backfire horribly. The only way to be 100% certain is through authentic documentation, however getting someone to waste time doing that (unless they also play the game themselves) is very unlikely.
Also if he passed away, wouldn't his bank account close and thus his game account essentially stop dead?
Well there is an really small chance of that happening. Make a poll how many people playing EVE goes on such "journey" It is still there, but then well its simple CCP offer compensation to the injured party, lets say three PLEXes and life time ban for this shenanigan  Yep CCP would be at loss there but chances are really really small. It only needs to happen once for it to be a problem. Any policy change to this effect needs to be foolproof, not to mention the fact you then need to explain to a potential f##k ton of people that you aren't really dead.
As i said risk assessment, chance that the former scenario will happen is next to non-existent. And if you dont answer the email its "yours" damn fault. The compensation is not an acknowledgment of the fault on CCP side, more so like solidarity from the CCP.
But i see the problem there.. .You are actually right. So simple answer from CCP to injured party : We dont give a **** you have been contacted, and therefore its your damn fault.
Since giving stuff to injured party will open doors for scammers. o.O like that make sense, but people are ****** so it could and probably would happen, considering the ussuall mind pattern of EVE players  |

Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
156
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Posted - 2011.11.23 03:25:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:Also if he passed away, wouldn't his bank account close and thus his game account essentially stop dead? You'd be surprised with how many fucks a bank gives to someone who died =) My father passed away 7 years ago with an unpaid debt, and the bank still sends letters to my house asking him to pay up, and offering deals and such. Mind you, the bank isn't asking me or anyone else for that matter, its asking himOne time i even considered sending a note of "adress change" to the bank so that they would send the bills to the cemetery instead.. but i don't think the old man deserves to be bothered tbh
Holy **** that's terrible. I take it you've RTS'd the mail with a note saying "Recipient is deceased, please stop tormenting his family" or some sort, do it in a way that impliments them with the notion that they're harassing and tormenting a family over their loss and they'll backtrack pretty fast.
If they don't, take it to the media.
Anyway, the whole "Reply to this email or we transfer stuff/assume you're dead" etc is having terrible reprocussions in that other gameGäó where GM's are losing ownership of Guilds because they don't log in for a month. |
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2011.11.23 03:27:00 -
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I can see that, i am just naive about people decency. And i always fail. |

Caellach Marellus
Nephtys Ventures inc
156
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Posted - 2011.11.23 03:33:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:I can see that, i am just naive about people decency. And i always fail.
Assume the worst, then when better things happen you can be pleasantly surprised. |

Brock Nelson
56
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Posted - 2011.11.23 03:36:00 -
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Can I have his stuff
Oh wait... |

Amro One
One.
34
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Posted - 2011.11.23 03:48:00 -
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Morons, that why you assign directors and shares so you can vote on **** like this, like unlocking BPOs
Teaches you to not have a dictatorship.
You all fail at corp management
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Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
71
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Posted - 2011.11.23 03:49:00 -
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Amro One wrote:Morons, that why you assign directors and shares so you can vote on **** like this, like unlocking BPOs
Teaches you to not have a dictatorship.
You all fail at corp management
And you fail at reading comprehension. Happens, just dont know what is worse. |

ThisIsntMyMain
Republic University Minmatar Republic
57
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Posted - 2011.11.23 04:17:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Amro One wrote:Morons, that why you assign directors and shares so you can vote on **** like this, like unlocking BPOs
Teaches you to not have a dictatorship.
You all fail at corp management
And you fail at reading comprehension. Happens, just dont know what is worse.
No, he fails in trolling and fails to make what is a valid and correct point here ....
CCP's policy is quite clear on this. The stuff under the personal control of your CEO is his stuff not the corps. Under no circumstances - even death - will CCP take stuff from a players personal hangar (other than EULA violations or RMT ing ) and give it to another player. When you created contracts the way you did, you gave your stuff to another player - which means it is now his stuff.
To avoid these kind of circumstances, you need better corporation management policies. ie use corp contracts not personal contracts, have multiple directors, use votes to lock down BPO's etc.
If a director stole all your stuff and went AFK, you would be sh*t out of luck. In this case, its very sad that someone died, but sorry, you're still sh*t out of luck here.
And no, it would not be the first time that somebody was known to have died in real life and then suddenly came back very much alive again on Teamspeak one day.
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NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises Black Watch.
32
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Posted - 2011.11.23 07:25:00 -
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First off i am sorry for the OP's loss,and i know this is not quite on topic but would be interesting to know.
First some backstory. We have a corp member that have been with us for years and both me and my CEO consider him a close and personal friend (sadly he missed our wedding,so we have no yet met in real life ). He works as a firefighter and a couple of years back he had a nasty accident. Short version is that he fell trough 3 floors in a burning building and spendt months in rehab. He is now completely fine exept some scars and a limp. But after this he started to question what to do if he has another accident. Now considering who im talking about i cant say for sure if he is serius or not,but it honestly wouldent suprise me.
More or less what he did is to tell his lawyer that in the even that he did die all his ingame assets (assets,not his char) would go to the corp. But according to the EULA it would in theory count as account sharing since the lawyer would have to log onto his character and give us all his assets,or he would have to go trough CCP and have them give them to us.
I guess my question really is,saying that someone actually DID will all their assets in EVE,could it actually be done?
Right now he is unable to play due to expecting his second kid but im sure he would find this interesting when he returns 
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Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
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Posted - 2011.11.23 07:39:00 -
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OP.
Just let it go mate. |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
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Posted - 2011.11.23 07:54:00 -
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Just goes to show you that a bunch of spacepixels is valued on the same scale as a human life.
To be honest, if I ever buy the farm offline, I'd want to be given a viking funeral in EVE. Put my frozen corpse inside a ship (fit with at least one loaded gun). Then shoot the ship to half hull so it sets on fire, and bump it toward the sun. Not sure how to ask a lawyer for this without getting security called on me, though. |

Gerald Taric
F-H Schwerindustrie und Sicherheit KRAUTZ-FEDERATION
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Posted - 2011.11.23 08:50:00 -
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Renan Ruivo wrote:Caellach Marellus wrote:Also if he passed away, wouldn't his bank account close and thus his game account essentially stop dead? You'd be surprised with how many fucks a bank gives to someone who died =) My father passed away 7 years ago with an unpaid debt, and the bank still sends letters to my house asking him to pay up, and offering deals and such. Mind you, the bank isn't asking me or anyone else for that matter, its asking himOne time i even considered sending a note of "adress change" to the bank so that they would send the bills to the cemetery instead.. but i don't think the old man deserves to be bothered tbh I do not know, in which country you are living. As far as i know you might get a paper from government agency "certifying" that your father passed away. With this (depending on where you live) you also might get some official papers stating, that you are the inheritor. The bank then should be able to change the state of that bank account. AFAIK in my country (Germany) you have to decice within a few weeks, if you want to accept the possessions and (!) debts of the decedent, or if you refuse to take them (as a whole, you can't pick the + and left the - / it's "all or nothing" ). |
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L Salander
Bite me inc. Narwhals Ate My Duck
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Posted - 2011.11.23 09:40:00 -
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If it was in his hangar and contracted to/by him personally then it is his stuff, not corps. Next time make the CEO do everything legit rather than pulling corp assets into his personal, private wallet and hangar. Sucks for you, but lesson learned, right? |

J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
15
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Posted - 2011.11.23 11:12:00 -
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He should have had a clone waiting before he was podded irl, then you wouldnt be having these problems now would you? |

Rek Seven
Probe Patrol Project Wildfire
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Posted - 2011.11.23 12:19:00 -
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This is why you need to have your will up to date people. "to my beloved chribba, i leave my vast stock of veldspar" |

chrisss0r
No.Mercy Merciless.
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Posted - 2011.11.23 12:31:00 -
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Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:Sorry but how does CCP know he actually died and you're not just scamming him on his vacation?
Sucks but if i could just say 'hey my ceo died gimme his stuffs' there wouldnt be many corporations left in eve by contacting the account owner ? like via e-mail ??? Then finish it with following line If you dont answer this email in *some time* we would consider *some action* as appropriate .. f.e. ?? Either way its not like its impossible. Even if he is not, not responding to such email will actually cover the come-back rage.
sorry but that is a terrible idea. In any legal system around the world there is no way to transfer ownership without a declaration of intent.
With the same right you could just put a note on any parked car that say "if you don't show up and tell me not to take this car within 24 hours i'll just consider it mine". Sounds stupid? Well it is and same goes for your idea
that's a good thing about our legal system: that your property is protected by law even if you are not sitting on it with a baseball bat 24/7 |

Jaroslav Unwanted
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2011.11.23 12:41:00 -
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chrisss0r wrote:Jaroslav Unwanted wrote:Terminal Insanity wrote:Sorry but how does CCP know he actually died and you're not just scamming him on his vacation?
Sucks but if i could just say 'hey my ceo died gimme his stuffs' there wouldnt be many corporations left in eve by contacting the account owner ? like via e-mail ??? Then finish it with following line If you dont answer this email in *some time* we would consider *some action* as appropriate .. f.e. ?? Either way its not like its impossible. Even if he is not, not responding to such email will actually cover the come-back rage. sorry but that is a terrible idea. In any legal system around the world there is no way to transfer ownership without a declaration of intent. With the same right you could just put a note on any parked car that say "if you don't show up and tell me not to take this car within 24 hours i'll just consider it mine". Sounds stupid? Well it is and same goes for your idea that's a good thing about our legal system: that your property is protected by law even if you are not sitting on it with a baseball bat 24/7
It sound stupid. Yet anything in game include your character, your assets, just about everything is not your property. Its "property" of CCP from very start to the end.
Anyway post 46 is quite clear about "the issue". SO i would leave it at that. |
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