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i hope the 2 spawns in first wave in forsaken hubs has been fixed coz i used to be able to do them in a t1 fitted bs close range fitted if im forced to use long range guns and a faction ship or carrier to run them im gonna be pissed and i wont be the only one

forcing a large change to a play style (which involves making isk in 0.0 to requireing lots of isk to start making isk) is really bad

*edit* and yep the first 2 waves of npcs still come in first spawn
which means i have to change my autocannon mach for a tach nightmare to be able to do them due to the dps overload in the first wave thanks for nuking the only viable way (without getting killed by hostiles due to having to use a carrier) of making isk in 0.0 which means more people using incursions in highsec ie going backwards ingame wise

oh btw its not like i could do the damn anoms in 0.0 in the first place coz of hostiles leaving blackops cyno alts in every ratting system in eve so no one can make isk in 0.0 find a way to fix that and everyone in eve will love you for it

btw another thing that is cheesing me off royaly is these plex promos sending plex prices through the roof meaning i CANT sub my accounts due to insane prices when i cant make isk in the first place

Clicking "my wallet -> transactions -> load" still hangs the wallet, but reply to the bug report I filed earlier mentioned it being fixed internally... Recheck please.

90% UI still has black edges when the hanger view is turned off.

Can you please post the bug report ID here so I can follow up on this?

Sure thing...
118658

Planet view and map from within CQ with AA enabled doesn't work
User pain: Low
Workaround: Disable anti aliasing
Status: Fixed in in Nov 23 update (#319708)

Just for your info, I am running 319708 and the above is not yet fixed for me (unless you have not released the update yet).

Both the Planet View and Map fail to load if AA is enabled.

Regards, BH.

Clicking "my wallet -> transactions -> load" still hangs the wallet,

i hope the 2 spawns in first wave in forsaken hubs has been fixed coz i used to be able to do them in a t1 fitted bs close range fitted if im forced to use long range guns and a faction ship or carrier to run them im gonna be pissed and i wont be the only one

forcing a large change to a play style (which involves making isk in 0.0 to requireing lots of isk to start making isk) is really bad

*edit* and yep the first 2 waves of npcs still come in first spawn
which means i have to change my autocannon mach for a tach nightmare to be able to do them due to the dps overload in the first wave thanks for nuking the only viable way (without getting killed by hostiles due to having to use a carrier) of making isk in 0.0 which means more people using incursions in highsec ie going backwards ingame wise

oh btw its not like i could do the damn anoms in 0.0 in the first place coz of hostiles leaving blackops cyno alts in every ratting system in eve so no one can make isk in 0.0 find a way to fix that and everyone in eve will love you for it

btw another thing that is cheesing me off royaly is these plex promos sending plex prices through the roof meaning i CANT sub my accounts due to insane prices when i cant make isk in the first place

another gripe atm is the station services showing the holding corps logo taking up space so if u have items and ships merged with the station window u have just lost ALOT of view space can we please have an option to hide the logo and gain our space back?

wow test server client *quit button* doesnt take 20 seconds to close the game its now instant woot....
oh wait..

I have lost control of the camera in the CQ.

Could you submit a bug report with logs if still possible? Are you able to reproduce this?

BR #119625. Just reproduced it on the same computer. Diffrent logins get the same results. Its mixed with a bulk data down load everytime to. Repair the client does not fix it either hope it goes a way with a new build.

Just submited a new BR with your name on it.

Load bulk date = camera bug.

Hey, thanks for the bug report, we've seen a few previous occurrences of this in earlier builds for this release and I've fixed a whole load of potential issues but it seems there are still more out there!

We've not managed to reproduce this internally so I'd be grateful if you could answer a few questions to help pin down what's happening here:

• When you move the character around the environment does the camera follow along?

yes



• When you click and hold a mouse button to try and rotate the camera what do you see the mouse cursor doing?

curser center screen


• Do you routinely have any UI open or do anything whilst the CQ is loading?

No

Did the NPE up to the mining agent first mission and used the ship interface on the CQ balcany to switch ships. seemed to start it.

Bulk data being requred stated after that test on a third alt. Same symptems on all starts from sisi launcher.



• Once this has happened does it persist even when you completely close and reopen the client?

yes bulk data loads every time

I had camera issues too but they had vanished in 1st rc build... Did reinstall entire sisi client meanwhile also so unable to reliably say what ultimately fixed the issue.

Time to see if my Win7-32 bit will break the same way if i do what i did with the 64 wish me luck lol


Requiring a bulk data down load started on this computer to after the down time.

warp after effects red green when zoomed out with tactical over view are still happening.

NPE info at the academy Offices need to be linked to the marked not contracts.

If a contaner is loot alled and all loot is taken. it should close not stay on space and have to be closed.

Error was not reproducable in Win7-32 bit.

same character loading on the Win7-64 bit loaded bulk data and had error.

Test of Win7-32 bit updated.

Thanks for the info, we're still trying to track down a solid repro for this but have managed to actually reproduce it in-house so fingers crossed we're on the way to fixing it.

The log with that bug report is massively long and has a ton of exceptions linked to other issues that have in fact been fixed, I had to dig for a while before I found the one that actually looked relevant to your issue. Have notified the relevant team, but can't promise a fix will make it into the first release since it may take a while to find the root cause.

Thanks for taking the time to report this.

Ok...

- There is new UI/Chat related bug where player name appears twice when he writes something.
- As side note: chat window contains 3 sections and each one contains different size/type of font with different spacing?

[img]https://bugs.eveonline.com/files/8841125319141.jpg[/img]

Bugreport id: 119704

Two current bugs on SiSI:

1) In the chats, name is double so it says "Rivqua Rivqua > asdjasid", and if you have time stamps, they also show up twice.

2) Still all missile skills have no text, and are just the reference number code.

- Riv

Haven't been able to check Sisi in a while, but I'm wondering if the "JUMP" command still exists on all stargate menus even if you're not warping to that stargate, or any stargate at all.

I Have downloaded the test server update but when I try to log on to it the status still says "Incompatible (Version)" I'm confused on what to do.

Also trying to submit a new BR from the F12 function tho the last day I get Internal Server Error 500 - What I'm looking for can't be found pop up in a little window after the bug report seems to complete sending and waiting a while.

You can update to the current Sisi version with this patch:
http://content.eveonline.com//321215/evepremiumpatch321215.exe

There will however be another Sisi update in a few hours, at which point you will need to patch again.

Do not use the above patch on your main install of EVE (the one you use for Tranquility).

My patch is the one you linked and I am getting the same "Incompatible Version" message.

That's because we literally just updated, you should be able to autopatch or use this generic patch:
http://content.eveonline.com//321452/evepremiumpatch321452.exe

I was playing around on SiSi last night and a few thoughts that I hope are addressed, or will be addressed in the near future:

F10 Map:

1. The little expanding on rollover is insane. It causes the server to be queried each time you roll over a star, and many times it expands too quickly so a star I originally intended to focus on is covered up by the expanded list for another star, and since my mouse is now over the expanded list, it expands all of the planets and stations - all for a star that I had no intention of looking at.

2. Change to a click-to-expand system. Rolling over is ok to show the routes, but currently rolling over a star deselects the other star I already had selected. The clear simple fix for this is to allow selection only for clicking a star.

3. F11 Map covers over the F10 map, however it doesn't stop the F10 map from being interacted with - so for instance if your mouse is hovering over the F11 map, it will select a star in the F10 map, even if that star is underneath the F11 overlay map.

Solar System Map:

1. Clicking on an entity should change the rotation of the solar system to be around that entity, so you can zoom in to that selected area. Currently the entire solar system rotates around the sun, and does not change, so it's literally impossible to narrow down your search.

2. Currently there are multiple info tabs open that cover over each other, I'm assuming they are for your current station you're docked at, and current moon or whatever. Based on your viewing angle though, the info tabs cover each other up instead of stacking. Again, this would be better if you can select a celestial that you wish to focus on, both changing rotation and opening up a little info tab for the item you selected.

3. Including a Reset View button would be nice too, for both F10 Map & Solar System map.


Engine Trails:

1. Flying a Tengu, my trails are currently BLUE, however my engine is currently bright YELLOW. It looks a little strange, I'd think that the trail's color should be dependent upon the current engine.

2. Trails disappear abruptly when going into warp, and reappear abruptly when leaving warp. I think they should continue while in warp, and for those that are in a system watching another player warp off it would be cool to see a faint trail in the direction of their warp that fades out. Also there should be a softer distinction between the engine trail and the actual engine. The idea is that the engine is making the trails and is an optical effect made similar to a low shutter speed taking a picture at night, not that they're streamers made out of plastic attached to the rear of our ships.

3. No difference graphically between afterburners, MWD, or basic engines.

4. Trail lines are a bit too sharp and remind me of Tron lightcycles - shouldn't they blur a bit, the farther they are from the
engines?

Audio:

1. I don't hear my ship's engine, and only when in warp I hear the engine kick in about a second after going into warp. I would think I would hear some more powerful engines when kicking in my MWD, afterburners, or warping. I see the engines' graphics go into overdrive when warping, but don't hear the appropriate audio.


Multi-Monitor Support:

1. Would it be possible to limit the 3d viewport to a set screen resolution, ie 1900x1200, while allowing more screen real-estate for the overview & chat & other windows?

I am trying to run that patch right now and its stuck at


(3/7) Downloading recipes: Initializing ...

Output folder: F:\System\AppData\Local\Temp\nsf8C54.tmp
Extract: custom_win.exe... 100 percent
Extract: library.zip... 100 percent
Extract: patch_helper.exe... 100 percent
Extract: patch_win.exe... 100 percent
Execute: F:\System\AppData\Local\Temp\nsf8C54.tmp\patch_win.exe "G:\CCP\Singularity" http://content.eveonline.com/321452/RepairData_321452.dat 199272

yes if you are warping to a stargate after commanding it to jump all startgates on the right click menu still show the jump command. only thing it does is cancel the jump command on the gate you are in warp to.

It's not just after commanding it to jump or when warping to gate. It's any warp at all; bookmark, belt, anything.

Hi, thanks for the post. I can't give you definitive answers on these but I've passed your post on to the relevant people.

That is an interesting bug in and of itself, if you can reproduce this please take the time to gather logs in the old fashioned way via the LogServer tool and file a bug report via the old web interface.

Its got something to do with the location of the saved screen shots. I keept getting that error after placing both errows and comments in a screen shot. Did the same to a second one and then had to go back and delete the first becouse it keep giveing that error. When that pop up happens it does not send the bug report to the server. even though it says it does.

There needs to be a way to take a screen shot while a right click menu is open. Bug reporting problems with right click menus under this system is hard to do.

Hi, Any chance that you can send in a bug report of this error in action and send us a .lbw file from your logserver as well as the .zip file that the bug reporting tool generates here: C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local\CCP\EVE\IGBR

Regarding the screenshot, you can click control-shift-alt-p to grab a screenshot when the bug reporting window is open. You can use this when you have a right click menu or a modal popup that you need to grab.

Any word when it will hit TQ?

I don't know when or if this feature will be available on TQ. Could you try it on Singularity?

CCP please how about in future giving people an option on where the patch is unpacked to. have so far heard two corp mates complaining that you get no option, with SSD drives now the norm for your OS and program drives space is no longer not an option.
The updater doesn't even check how much space you have free on the drive it tries to unpack the update to. End result if it dumbly tries on drives that dont have enough space and it crashes machines.
It's only temporary files in the end, it really cant be that difficult to give us an option.

I second this -- I haven't experienced any issues downloading the patch so far (it's about half done), but clumsy temp-file unpacking can cause problems down the road...

We are looking into adding something like this into the launcher that is being worked on, but it's still a few months (at least) away from release.

I will when i test this scanner probe bug need to find a wh first lol

If one does not want to unpack things on your SSD, you should change your default unpack location (this is not a EVE specific issue, the users should solve it.)