Video is HERE.

What do you all think of null?

Video is HERE.

What do you all think of null?

Video is HERE.

What do you all think of null?

I have stated this before in a similar thread, but it bears repeating.

Given the horrible designs of Dominion sov, and the fact that there appears to be changes to sov coming in the near future, this state of things shouldn't come as a shock to anyone. There is absolutely no reason to go on a trillion HP grindfest until we know more about what's coming. Each alliance/coalition is better served by just holding onto what they have for the moment.

I can only hope that the changes come before the current state of things causes too many players to bow out from sheer boredom.

I have stated this before in a similar thread, but it bears repeating.

Given the horrible designs of Dominion sov,

What changed was the reasons for fighting:

What people forget is that SOV before Dominion sucked even more than it does now. The POS grind was beyond insane, it's a cake walk now in comparison.

What changed was the reasons for fighting: The relative value of null sec vs the rest of EVE-space. Sure, null systems are potentially more valuable now than before Dominion's upgrade system, but relative to high end wormholes and faction warfare pve not to mention high sec activities like incursions and how easy ships like Marauders have made high sec pvp, null is many times less valuable to the high SP pve farmer that it was pre-Dominion. Those 'farmers' were important to the grand scheme of null sec life

People endured the insane pos grinding because at the end of is was useable space with moons and pve content and belt rats that could be used by the alliance to get the funds for other things (i remember when my old corp had to pay 'alliance tax'). Now moon goo is bound to a political system, null pve is something done by renters, ninjas and coalition grunts to stupid to roll a faction warfare bomber alt or buy an incursion runner alt and the SOV system is perceived to be oppressive when the system it replaced was many times MORE oppressive.

Too many people in null have lost the will to fight for the sake of it, and that's more about player mentality than CCP, so start taking some responsibility.

Bullshit. I can easily afford to rent my own system in nullsec based off just the active isk (the passive isk alone pays for the space leaving active site running etc as pure profit). THe issue isn't potential income in nullsec the real issue are the corporations themselves. You decided to join a nullblock corp/alliance that puts it's priorities on the corp/alliance over the little people. Those corps/alliances then rent out vast regions of their space and then you're shocked when you have few areas to grind isk. Then you come here and QQ about how OMG NULLSEC IS SO BAD FOR ISK AND HIGHSEC IS THE BESTEST EVA FOR INCOME!! As you ignore the billion isk ships you get replaced by your alliance for "free" with the income they get from renting etc.

If your corp is really that upset about losing the farmers then they might consider renting out less of your space so those farmers have some place to farm.

I do second your comment about the pre-dominion SOV though my god that was awful.


I also agree with the notion that nothing much is going to happen till the SOV changes are solid.

what you posted is the same old high sec propaganda lie: 'null sec did it to themselves'. It's not true

Those corps/alliances then rent out vast regions of their space and then you're shocked when you have few areas to grind isk. Then you come here and QQ about how OMG NULLSEC IS SO BAD FOR ISK AND HIGHSEC IS THE BESTEST EVA FOR INCOME!!

As you ignore the billion isk ships you get replaced by your alliance for "free" with the income they get from renting etc.

I loved the video! Thanks.

As an independant I really like null sec right now. It is by far the safest place in ALL of New Eden. I get to choose any space I want to run anoms and combat sites. The WH highway gets me back to HS to resupply and sell off my goodies in relative safety. In the meantime my alts do PI in WH space and I roam for pvp in low sec and WH. Life is good with so many choices. After all, EVE is what you make it.

Video is HERE.

What do you all think of null?

As a member of the second largest coalition in the game you guys should stop making treaties, put your big girl panties on and attack something. I heard that is how you change SOV somewhere along the way.

N3PL is the largest, has been for a while.

N3PL is the largest, has been for a while.