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DB Preacher	Posted - 2003.10.05 10:28:00 - [1] Why are all the best forum posters from the UK? Miso, Jade, Darth Tom, Joshua, Hardin etc etc... I bet the UK players are a minority, so do you guys simply not enjoy posting anything but smaktalk on the forums? (Obviously that is a generalisation as there are some good US posters but definitely a much lower ratio of % of posters to % of players). Any rational explanations? Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
nails	Posted - 2003.10.05 10:29:00 - [2] I've always used forums as a place of verbal freedom. :) ------------------ http://ota-corps.otaku.jp -- Anime l33t level
1of1	Posted - 2003.10.05 10:32:00 - [3] Years of watching Monty Python, Fawlty Towers, Father Ted, Ab Fab, Big Train, League of Gentlemen et al has warped the mindset of UK players irrepairably.
Miso	Posted - 2003.10.05 10:58:00 - [4] Edited by: Miso on 05/10/2003 11:12:31 Edited by: Miso on 05/10/2003 11:03:51 Theres definitely a US/Europe difference on forum topics...you see it when US is offline and the EU swamps the boards - first thing in the morning, the US players have been posting throughout (our) night, and the topics are soooo different. Without intending to be inflammatory, the US players do complain more, but thats because they are more serious about the game and game issues, which is not a bad thing at all. They also post more on technical issues etc. The EU people tend to be a bit more calm and a bit more ironic. And slightly more "eccentric". I'll stop generalising now. DB - best as in what? I can talk crap, but thats about it - i don't have other posters talent for articulating game issues or bugs, or exploits etc. Some people can see so many issues that I never would have thought of, mainly cos Im too busy taking the **** out of Hardin... edited for spolling mitakes -------------------------------------------- Dead
Hardin	Posted - 2003.10.05 11:10:00 - [5] oi...stop it you naughty girl! I am not in the mood anyway since Oracle killed my BS last night sob Actually, if there is a difference then I think it is probably because we are all slackers in the UK... and therefore have tonnes of time to be witty (or not )
DREAMWORKS	Posted - 2003.10.05 11:14:00 - [6] Darth Tom the best forum poster? roflol. __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html
Relentless	Posted - 2003.10.05 11:17:00 - [7] I'm not so sure that the UK folks are such a minority. Most of my previous 2 corps were from UK or EU, and it also seems to be true of alot of the players I talk to ingame as well. It could just be the weird hours I keep. chuckle starting to look forward to your WOTDs, Miso.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2003.10.05 11:18:00 - [8] Quote: Why are all the best forum posters from the UK? Miso, Jade, Darth Tom, Joshua, Hardin etc etc... I bet the UK players are a minority, so do you guys simply not enjoy posting anything but smaktalk on the forums? (Obviously that is a generalisation as there are some good US posters but definitely a much lower ratio of % of posters to % of players). Any rational explanations? That's Mister Joshua to you, lovey. LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
1of1	Posted - 2003.10.05 11:19:00 - [9] Quote: I'll stop generalising now. All people who generalise are the same :P
Shock	Posted - 2003.10.05 11:29:00 - [10] Only if being a good forum poster means a lot of huffin' and puffin', Darth Tom would be on my list --- soonÖ
Darth Tom	Posted - 2003.10.05 11:37:00 - [11] Quote: Only if being a good forum poster means a lot of huffin' and puffin', Darth Tom would be on my list Oh, how your words wound me! You're just jealous that, despite all my huffing and puffing, I won't blow for you Cheers, TOM
Miso	Posted - 2003.10.05 11:50:00 - [12] Quote: chuckle starting to look forward to your WOTDs, Miso. WOTD? someone explain please, I am not familiar with this abbreviation... -------------------------------------------- Dead
j0sephine	Posted - 2003.10.05 11:53:00 - [13] "WOTD? someone explain please, I am not familiar with this abbreviation..." 'Word of the Day', i'd guess. ... And given you're busy 'taking the **** out of Hardin', shouldn't the WotD be "suction"? :s
Miso	Posted - 2003.10.05 11:54:00 - [14] I really have to stop smoking pineapple leaves... -------------------------------------------- Dead
Lecavalier	Posted - 2003.10.05 12:17:00 - [15] DB interesting topic, but you left off one of one of my personal faves, Scrapyard Jack. Haven't seen him around the forums as much lately, but judging from the look of his avatar, I'm not sure what planet he comes from, let alone what continent.... His posts have a high chuckle factor for me anyway. And no best list could be complete without the ever helpful and knowledgeable j0sephine. Being an American who lived in the UK for 5 years, I found most of my UK friends pretty funny (probably why I hung out with them), but then again so are most of my US friends.... I do find that US gamers specifically are a more serious bunch though, so that probably reflects what you're seeing on the boards. And to Hardin, my sympathy for your loss sir, but the EVE world must know: Did Oracle loot the precious Shiny Disco Balls post kill? The very fabric of the universe could be torn asunder should they be used for ebil.
Scrapyard Jack	Posted - 2003.10.05 13:23:00 - [16] Quote: you left off one of one of my personal faves, Scrapyard Jack. Haven't seen him around the forums as much lately, but judging from the look of his avatar, I'm not sure what planet he comes from ehehehe! Scrapyard Jack doesn't know whether to feel honoured or insulted.. ol' Jack will settle on: "honoured" (and a little hungry)
Lecavalier	Posted - 2003.10.05 13:41:00 - [17] I meant it as a compliment, you're a funny guy. But in hindsight I can see where it looks a bit of a backhanded one Scrapyard does have that Jay Leno chin thing going on though.... Keep on posting man, you ***** me up. Too much whining/smacktalk on these boards.
MaiLina KaTar	Posted - 2003.10.05 14:05:00 - [18] Edited by: MaiLina KaTar on 05/10/2003 14:08:15 I¦m german. Well what can I say... I enjoy posting on the more constructive threads since I don¦t like pretty much all the other topics. So you¦ll usually find me posting where people are discussing ingame-issues. Additionally I only surf the forums when I¦m playing the game (multimonitoring). The forums are a cool entertainment when you¦re mining or doing any other of the more timeconsuming things in the game. I enjoy reading flamewars tho but I don¦t participate in them since that¦s a little to childish for me Then if I want just the normal chit-chat I talk to my corpmates cause they all talk german. To be honest though I think gamers are pretty much the same, no matter where they come from. Mai's Idealog
Jade Constantine	Posted - 2003.10.05 14:13:00 - [19] I must admit, Scrapyard Jack rules ... always great. But there are a lot of other good posters; Art Dilinja, Rebellion, Sarkos, Halseth Durn, Zaphod, Setec, The Wretch ... etc etc My thing is intelligence and clarity of wit ... If a chap can string a good argument together with a little linguistic pzazz then my heart goes a-flutter ;) I love a challenge, mmmmmm Love and peace JF Public Forum
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2003.10.05 14:25:00 - [20] I'm not sure I'm getting what's so great about the mentioned posters, did they become great before you realized they were british or just because? Convert Stations
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.10.05 15:57:00 - [21] I'm from the US, and I think posters here are a little bit more aggressive, and argumentative. Also, yes, more childish and more likely to flame, taunt, insult and bash others. This kind of patterns itself after our society. Sometimes I'm amazed at the physical and mental brutallity of the younger crowd in this country. I can't believe how angry most kids in this country seem to be. And I can't believe how trivial death has become to most Americans. I know I've been guilty of all this on these forums. I kind of equate my own situation to that of road rage. I am not a confrontational person in everyday life, but when stuck in traffic, it can get very ugly, I can swear like no other. Same thing happens to me on these forums. And this is the first game that has done this to me, it probably has to do with the PvP aspects of EVE. Either way, Americans seem to excel at taking things to the extreme, no matter what we are involed in, and this can be good or bad... "Trust No One"
AngelusUK	Posted - 2003.10.05 16:44:00 - [22] I thought that only people in the Uk played this game. Maybe I should post this as a new topic on the board and see what response I get.
Vacuole	Posted - 2003.10.05 17:05:00 - [23] As a US citizen, I think I can correctly say that it's all because we're inbred trailer-park dwellers who dropped out of the 9th grade. We lack old-world refinement, you see. That's gotta be it. :)
Veruna Caseti	Posted - 2003.10.05 17:07:00 - [24] Yes, I struggle simply to piece together letters into words; the very idea of constructing sentences or paragraphs to express ideas makes me yearn for a can of Natural Ice and Monday Night Football. Veruna Caseti Ishukone
Maud Dib	Posted - 2003.10.05 18:18:00 - [25] Ah DB I think it has less to do where you are from and more to do with word smith ability. Not sure I agree with all of your selections but most are good choices. A lot of the us players I know don't care about the forums.
Karash Amerius	Posted - 2003.10.05 18:54:00 - [26] "best forum posters" um...ok...ya.
Jessica Logan	Posted - 2003.10.05 19:47:00 - [27] British Pride. Rawr. Flexes
Carp Riddell	Posted - 2003.10.05 20:08:00 - [28] (This isn't anti-US in any way) Personally I reckon it's 'cos we Brits aren't big complainers. We don't tend to complain about the food in restaurants to the waiter, we just make sure we don't go there again. There's also the point that for many players, English isn't their first language (note - this includes Yorkshiremen), so they can't really express themselves as fully as they would in say, Serbo-Croat. That's in no way a criticism, as the standard of English of players for whom it's not a first language is generally very good. This might be a bit controversial, but in my experience, we Brits (and other Euros as well, and that includes the French ) don't take ourselves as seriously as some Americans. Oh, and the pubs shut at 11pm here (unless you're in Scotland, amongst the shortbread and heather), so we've got nothing else to do... - Carp Riddell - CEO, Innsmouth Shipping - Proud Member of Curse Alliance
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2003.10.05 20:12:00 - [29] Vast sweeping generalisations are always a mistake. As is that one LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.10.05 20:57:00 - [30] "This might be a bit controversial, but in my experience, we Brits (and other Euros as well, and that includes the French ) don't take ourselves as seriously as some Americans" There is not too much that we don't take seriously... "Trust No One"
DB Preacher	Posted - 2003.10.05 21:14:00 - [31] Edited by: DB Preacher on 05/10/2003 21:14:35 Quote: "best forum posters" um...ok...ya. hmmmmmm, i wasnt trying to start a flame war.. Perhaps I should have said something like "most useful/fun posts to ratio of whines/flames"? cough sorry MISTER Calvert SIR. and i know there are more good forum posters, i didnt list them all, i added an ETC at the end... Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Joshua Calvert	Posted - 2003.10.05 21:16:00 - [32] Yeah, I think DB Preacher meant "prolific" rather than "best". Best would be Jash, Setec, couple of the Oracle Corp guys whose names I forget, Athule, Jade, Mark A of TTI fame.... LEEEEERRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!
Troezar	Posted - 2003.10.05 21:20:00 - [33] Remember that generalisations and stereotypes all have some basis in fact it's just that we don't agree or see the ones that apply to us :) Being English myself (why do English people always say British you don't see the Scots Welsh and Irish (nothern) calling themselves British) I would say that the US has probably some of the best of anything you care to mention but probably far more of the worst than anywhere else. As for White Dwarf's comments I agree about the young are aggressive and blase about death, but then we haven't had a real war for 60 years and society and laws these days try to make everything 100% safe. Hence all the lawsuits cos now people believe you should be born live a great life and die of old age and accidents don't happen they are someones fault! my prediction is sooner or later something big wil happen be it war, famine or natural catastrophy and the 1st world will wake up and realise just how damn lucky they really are to live in these times and have what they have. Just remember it's only a game and in 120 years everyone alive on the planet now will be dead and no-one will care less what you said or did here today :) PS Sorry if I bored you, got carried away...
DB Preacher	Posted - 2003.10.05 21:36:00 - [34] Quote: Only if being a good forum poster means a lot of huffin' and puffin', Darth Tom would be on my list DOH! You know Shock you are right... Sorry Tom but i actually meant Darth Solo. Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.10.05 23:07:00 - [35] "my prediction is sooner or later something big wil happen be it war, famine or natural catastrophy and the 1st world will wake up and realise just how damn lucky they really are to live in these times and have what they have" Yes, in 4 billion years our sun will go supernova. In 100,000 (I think this number is correct) years, our moon will escape earth's gravity, and the earth's axis will wobble so badly that the planet will no longer be able to sustain life. In 30,000 years, we will be in the middle of the next ice age. Within the next 1000 years the earth's magnetic poles may shift, causing a lot of problems for the eco-system. Some day a 10 mile diameter asteriod may hit the earth and destroy 90% of all life on the planet, including humans... ...so I guess what you are saying is somewhat true, but I guess all we can worry about is the here and now. Here and now, Americans always seem to deal with issues using some type of confrontation. I know that is human nature, but we seem to excel at making others suffer for our own personal, political and national gain. It seems to be reflected in the way we deal with other countires. (And I am all for the Ass kicking we gave ******, just don't like seeing innoscent Iraqi's suffer. The US soldiers dying sucks, but it is to be expected, and you don't join the military without knowing the consequences) LOL, maybe we are preparing for that impending alien invasion of this planet, lol. Either way, I'm way off on a tanget, and I'll stop now. "Trust No One"
Goldar Hektu	Posted - 2003.10.06 17:36:00 - [36] So do you Brits always sit around and pat each other on the back when there's no SOCCER on the "telly?" hehe. sorry, couldn't resist. Your 150mm Railgun II perfectly strikes Serpentis Drug Baron, wrecking for 192.8 damage.
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2003.10.06 17:40:00 - [37] Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 06/10/2003 17:40:58 Soccer, que es? You mean football? Convert Stations
Grankor	Posted - 2003.10.06 17:53:00 - [38] I came, I saw, I farted. I love this game. :) Quote: Edited by: Miso on 05/10/2003 11:12:31 Edited by: Miso on 05/10/2003 11:03:51 Theres definitely a US/Europe difference on forum topics...you see it when US is offline and the EU swamps the boards - first thing in the morning, the US players have been posting throughout (our) night, and the topics are soooo different. Without intending to be inflammatory, the US players do complain more, but thats because they are more serious about the game and game issues, which is not a bad thing at all. They also post more on technical issues etc. The EU people tend to be a bit more calm and a bit more ironic. And slightly more "eccentric". I'll stop generalising now. DB - best as in what? I can talk crap, but thats about it - i don't have other posters talent for articulating game issues or bugs, or exploits etc. Some people can see so many issues that I never would have thought of, mainly cos Im too busy taking the **** out of Hardin... edited for spolling mitakes (\_/) (O.o) (> <) This is Bunny. Copy Bunny into your signature to help him on his way to world
Mynobe Soletae	Posted - 2003.10.06 18:07:00 - [39] Where did people get the idea that the Earth will wobble if the moon goes away, anyway? Does Venus wobble? Does Mars? Do any of the other planets wobble, due to not having moons or having too many / too small to be a stabilizing point? As for the EU/US distribution... looking at server peaks and when they happen, I'd say this game has a mostly EU population. I disagree with the statement that EU/UK players whine less. I can give examples from these very boards, so don't argue.
WhiteDwarf	Posted - 2003.10.06 19:10:00 - [40] "Where did people get the idea that the Earth will wobble if the moon goes away, anyway? Does Venus wobble? Does Mars? Do any of the other planets wobble, due to not having moons or having too many / too small to be a stabilizing point?" I've read it has to do with fluidity on the earth's crust (Oceans). I'm not an expert, just relaying what I've read and seen on TV. Most Astronomers are convinced a large companion satelite is required to orbit a planet with as much water as we have to keep the axis stable enough to support life. Who knows for sure... "Trust No One"
Cormyat Astara	Posted - 2003.10.06 19:18:00 - [41] I could be wrong about this, but it seems like there are more "kids" posting from The States, whereas the EU crowd is a little older on average. Or maybe it just seems that way because Americans tend to be less patient. I will say one thing--we Yanks do enjoy a good pi$$ing contest. Lol.
Sc0rpion	Posted - 2003.10.06 19:28:00 - [42] Quote: Years of watching Monty Python, Fawlty Towers, Father Ted, Ab Fab, Big Train, League of Gentlemen et al has warped the mindset of UK players irrepairably. You forgot Benny Hill and Mr. Bean... "The true secret to enjoying life is to live it dangerously." -Freidrich Nietzche
Cormyat Astara	Posted - 2003.10.06 19:38:00 - [43] Another thing I just thought about: I don't really follow British politics, but I know that here in the U.S., few people follow any sort of guidelines for logical debate or rational discourse. Take Rush Limbaugh's comments on Quarterback Donovan McNabb. He said McNabb wasn't as good as his reputation, and that he was being overhyped because he's part of a new generation of black quarterbacks that the NFL is publicizing. Now, rather than anyone trying to debate what Limbaugh said rationally and prove him wrong, everyone immediately resorted to the ad hominem attack--Limbaugh must be a racist. It's part of this air of political correctness that encompasses the lives of everyone in a public position in America. Rather than address a proposition directly, smear your opponent until the point gets lost. Maybe I'm off-base and British politics are just as brutal, but I think maybe it's a little worse in the states. Americans are probably a bit more reactionary, so this sort of rhetoric plays with a bit more success than it does in the U.K. Also, I think because of the air of PC in the States, a lot of online players enjoy being unmitigated asshats.
1of1	Posted - 2003.10.06 19:39:00 - [44] The fat perv was a bit before my time, but have to agree with you on Mr Bean. Which reminds me of another top comedy: Blackadder.
Qandor	Posted - 2003.10.06 21:37:00 - [45] Nothing like three pages of simplistic generalizations to get the old heart thumping. Now if we only had more quality threads like this one.
Goldar Hektu	Posted - 2003.10.07 00:13:00 - [46] Edited by: Goldar Hektu on 07/10/2003 00:16:08 Quote: Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 06/10/2003 17:40:58 Soccer, que es? You mean football? No, I mean soccer. :) That's what it's called in the States, because one of our homegrown sports was already called football by the time Americans became aware of the game the rest of the world calls 'football'. In short, as the Brits say, I was just trying to 'take the **** out of' what strikes me as a pretentious conversation filled with generalizations. I'm thirty, but as soon as I hear a generalization about the "younger generation," the first words that leap into my head are "old fart." I see just as much whining and trolling coming from posters who seem to not speak English as a first language, and from the people who I am able to guess are British, as I do from Americans. I also see many fine posts from all those groups. Though I don't know for sure, I would guess that some of the worst trolls I've seen are British, judging by the idioms used. BTW - Brits don't have a monopoly on good comedy. See old George Carlin, classic Eddie Murphy, Jerry Seinfeld, Robin Williams before he went sober, and many others. South Park is decidedly low-class, but there are some parts of the movie that were so funny I couldn't breathe. Our neigbors to the North can be pretty damn funny, too (Kids in the Hall, others). Monty Python was great, Red Dwarf is often hillarious, and Faulty Towers was funny. Some of the BlackAdder series' were great, but Mr. Bean just annoys me. Benny Hill was often very funny, but almost as often, just plain stupid. 'Are you being Served' was so dumb it was almost painful. :) I mean come on, that running cat joke ("Have you seen my pu$$y?") wasn't even funny the first time I heard it. so there.... :P Your 150mm Railgun II perfectly strikes Serpentis Drug Baron, wrecking for 192.8 damage.
Jash Illian	Posted - 2003.10.07 00:18:00 - [47] Quote: Edited by: Goldar Hektu on 07/10/2003 00:16:08 Quote: Edited by: Danton Marcellus on 06/10/2003 17:40:58 Soccer, que es? You mean football? No, I mean soccer. :) That's what it's called in the States, because one of our homegrown sports was already called football by the time Americans became aware of the game the rest of the world calls 'football'. In short, as the Brits say, I was just trying to 'take the **** out of' what strikes me as a pretentious conversation filled with generalizations. I'm thirty, but as soon as I hear a generalization about the "younger generation," the first words that leap into my head are "old fart." I see just as much whining and trolling coming from posters who seem to not speak English as a first language, and from the people who I am able to guess are British, as I do from Americans. I also see many fine posts from all those groups. Though I don't know for sure, I would guess that some of the worst trolls I've seen are British, judging by the idioms used. BTW - Brits don't have a monopoly on good comedy. See old George Carlin, classic Eddie Murphy, Jerry Seinfeld, Robin Williams before he went sober, and many others. South Park is decidedly low-class, but there are some parts of the movie that were so funny I couldn't breathe. Our neigbors to the North can be pretty damn funny, too (Kids in the Hall, others). Monty Python was great, Red Dwarf is often hillarious, and Faulty Towers was funny. Some of the BlackAdder series' were great, but Mr. Bean just annoys me. Benny Hill was often very funny, but almost as often, just plain stupid. 'Are you being Served' was so dumb it was almost painful. :) I mean come on, that running cat joke ("Have you seen my pu$$y?") wasn't even funny the first time I heard it. so there.... :P Gracias, Goldar. Saved me a long post. I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2003.10.07 00:34:00 - [48] Wake me up when there's actually a foot near the ball in american football. They punt how many times, once every 15th commercial break?! Convert Stations
Goldar Hektu	Posted - 2003.10.07 00:39:00 - [49] Quote: Wake me up when there's actually a foot near the ball in american football. They punt how many times, once every 15th commercial break?! Watch a Dallas Cowboys game from last year. They punted on almost every possession. hehe True, the sport is named stupidly..... Your 150mm Railgun II perfectly strikes Serpentis Drug Baron, wrecking for 192.8 damage.
1of1	Posted - 2003.10.07 07:01:00 - [50] I remember being told by an American that it was called 'football' because the ball was a foot long. Never bothered measuring one though...
Harliquin	Posted - 2003.10.07 07:26:00 - [51] Quote: Another thing I just thought about: I don't really follow British politics, but I know that here in the U.S., few people follow any sort of guidelines for logical debate or rational discourse. Take Rush Limbaugh's comments on Quarterback Donovan McNabb. He said McNabb wasn't as good as his reputation, and that he was being overhyped because he's part of a new generation of black quarterbacks that the NFL is publicizing. Now, rather than anyone trying to debate what Limbaugh said rationally and prove him wrong, everyone immediately resorted to the ad hominem attack--Limbaugh must be a racist. It's part of this air of political correctness that encompasses the lives of everyone in a public position in America. Rather than address a proposition directly, smear your opponent until the point gets lost. Maybe I'm off-base and British politics are just as brutal, but I think maybe it's a little worse in the states. Americans are probably a bit more reactionary, so this sort of rhetoric plays with a bit more success than it does in the U.K. Also, I think because of the air of PC in the States, a lot of online players enjoy being unmitigated asshats. I'm afraid the sort of reationary BS you mention exists in British politics as well and it is getting worse. Unfortunatly the last place you would go in the uk for a rational well crafted arguement or debate is to a politicians house. Sadly not even our news institutions (which used to be head and shoulders over the US) are upto much good now - as always the best we have is the BBC and is prolly on par or slightly better than CNN. The others all rate on the journalisic scale with Fox. We have a drive overhere (in the UK) at the moment for 'inclusiveness' where everyone has access to everything which basically means dumming down all the intellectual content in programs and providing it in bite sized chunks for the stupid. along with the now universal comment (usually while interviewing the sole survivor of a family of 6 butchered by a bloke with a knife) "how does that make you feel?" - arrrgh
Acix	Posted - 2003.10.07 09:19:00 - [52] I have noticed an oddity between the uk posters and the us ones. The uk posters (not all) tend to point out that they are better in some way or another simply because they are not from the US. Oh, be still my heart is that another generalisation................ There are some elequent posters. (example) Jade, no matter how well your posts read, you quote way tooooooo much. I did once read all the way through one of your mind-numbing posts. I liked how you wrote it. But I feel like I lost a little intelegence trying to follow most of: the quoting this and that, and out of context attacks. Maybe its that I am not involved with what the topic (alliance wars and such) is about normally. But they are well written, I have to give you that.
Sybylle	Posted - 2003.10.07 09:30:00 - [53] Damn! That's the first time iagree with WhiteD O_o Anyway, I'm not English or American, but I mostly think ppl tend to get upset not really due to their nationality, but more due to their own feelings. I agree on the fact that US ppl seem to take any problem as a conflict, but this is also appliable to other countries...It depends of the guy/girl that has the problem. I think it's more an education problem than a nationality one... Then, regarding funny and ironic posts, I agree that english ppl use to have a more rich language, and more constructed sentences than other countries, ut that's mainky because we have to speak english. I can make the same sentence in Italian or French, but nobody will understand it For US and UK, it's easy to explain something... For the rest of the world...Well, we have to think and select our words to make a sentence "globaly" understandable to other, what is not always easy PS : I'm French, for those who wish to know (\_/) (O.o) (> <)=Oveur (proof) "Jumping 50 systems I can like, have sex 150 times during that period"
Varia	Posted - 2003.10.07 10:02:00 - [54] I'm from the UK and personally I only post if I have something constructive to say, Posting needlessly seems to be a waste of time to me. I enjoy a good constructive debate but most of these seem to turn into insults and threats so mainly I don't reply to them. Personally I would not say the above posters are great but more on the lines of prolific and interesting, but the majority of JadeÆs posts are exceptional and very interesting. Women that strive to equal men lack ambition.
Harliquin	Posted - 2003.10.07 10:36:00 - [55] Ok Captain pedant to the rescue - You added the clause '(not all)' to your generalisation. 'The uk posters tend to point out that they are better in some way or another simply because they are not from the US.' So you are not generalising as you have already placed a restrictive clause on a generalisation.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2003.10.07 10:47:00 - [56] Quote: The uk posters (not all) tend to point out that they are better in some way or another simply because they are not from the US. I dont think this is true at all, in fact I think I think you would be hard pressed to find one instance of a legitimate poster saying anything of the sort. Current RKK Ranking: (CAL4) Soldier Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Athule Snanm	Posted - 2003.10.07 10:59:00 - [57] Hmmm, I assumed this thread was about ore or something so I hadn't read it until now... This is a general observation, not about what gets posted on these forums specifically, I think more frequently than from another country, a US person will say something along the lines of 'I come from the land of the free' or whatever. Followed by a bit of flag waving. Then someone will say something like 'actually I like where I come from too' to which the US person will respond 'OMG you just attacked me and my country - you've got a problem with the US because you're jealous, blah-de-blah-de-blah'. In general these boards are fairly free of this, but I think the main reason is a difference of culture. It's much more normal in the States for people to flag wave, I mean they even pray to it every morning when in school or something. Over on the other side of the world you get a lot less of that, in fact quite the opposite. As a result I don't think either side really understands why the other gets worked up over these things. Why do euro people post more sensible posts in general? I think the answer lies in the lower willingness to complain and immediately go into confrontation mode, as others have said. This is good and bad in a way, and of course each side of the Atlantic has their own set of whingers and non-whingers. _______________________________ Doomheim - EVE's only hygiene!
Hardin	Posted - 2003.10.07 11:00:00 - [58] Quote: The uk posters (not all) tend to point out that they are better in some way or another simply because they are not from the US. I am sorry but as UK poster this is complete wrong... Find me a single of of my posts, Miso's, Jade's, Joshua Calvert etc. that backs that assertion? I tend to post for several reasons but mainly to have FUN. Some of the threads are extremely creative and there are some supremely talented and funny people playing this game... i.e. The EVE Haiku thread The EVE Limerick thread The 'Fanta Shokata' thread Most threads started by Miso These have all given me fantastic belly laughs... and there are many more out there...
Miso	Posted - 2003.10.07 11:01:00 - [59] I think we all need a group hug... or massacre, one of the two... -------------------------------------------- Dead
Drethen Nerevitas	Posted - 2003.10.07 11:06:00 - [60] It's possible to do both at once. _______________________________________________________________________ *IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice.* 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7.
j0sephine	Posted - 2003.10.07 11:09:00 - [61] "I think we all need a group hug... or massacre, one of the two..." ... Why limit yourself to just one option; start the group hug, then fire a smartbomb when it gets crowded enough... :s
Drethen Nerevitas	Posted - 2003.10.07 11:12:00 - [62] No need to elaborate Josephine . I'm sure a torpedo will do just as well if it's packed tightly enough . _______________________________________________________________________ *IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice.* 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7.
Jash Illian	Posted - 2003.10.07 11:12:00 - [63] Quote: I think we all need a group hug... or massacre, one of the two... If I bothered to hug anyone in this **** poor thread, it'd be to muffle the gunshots. If it continues to survive without Polaris killing it, I guess I'll have to act out the generalistic stereotypical, childish (for a 32 year old) American people seem to be posting about. I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Miso	Posted - 2003.10.07 11:12:00 - [64] Jo - you've been talking to Oth too much -------------------------------------------- Dead
Drethen Nerevitas	Posted - 2003.10.07 11:23:00 - [65] Can I have a brief demonstation of that Jash? I'm a bit confused . _______________________________________________________________________ *IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice.* 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7.
Steini OFSI	Posted - 2003.10.07 11:30:00 - [66] bbecause they got nothing to do during downtime, while US players are asleep
Roy Haggerty	Posted - 2003.10.07 12:01:00 - [67] Too many generalisations. As an ex-DAoC player on an English server (also including scandinavians and Dutch), I can tell you with some confidence that the Brits and other Euros do just as much flaming, confrontation and childish whining as any bunch of Yanks. It's an age thing, I think, rather than a nationality thing. For some reason, the age profile of Eve players seems older on average than DAoC did. Thank God.
Jash Illian	Posted - 2003.10.07 12:31:00 - [68] Quote: Can I have a brief demonstation of that Jash? I'm a bit confused . What? You hug the person, place the gun into their stomach and prepare for an insanely large dry cleaning bill. Most of it hush money for the dry cleaner... I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather *** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Drethen Nerevitas	Posted - 2003.10.07 12:33:00 - [69] I get it now, thanks Jash. You're talking about diplomacy . Say nice things as you squeeze the trigger, nice things... _______________________________________________________________________ *IMPORTANT: Devs (and players) please take notice.* 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7.
Hackett	Posted - 2003.10.07 12:45:00 - [70] Quote: Quote: I think we all need a group hug... or massacre, one of the two... If I bothered to hug anyone in this **** poor thread, it'd be to muffle the gunshots. If it continues to survive without Polaris killing it, I guess I'll have to act out the generalistic stereotypical, childish (for a 32 year old) American people seem to be posting about. I don't think anyone has said that to be honest with you mate. Although you may be going some way to proving a few of the comments made if you do feel that way. Im my experience of this and other forums UK posters tend to look at things in a way that ony people from the UK can. This being with a slightly 'eccentric' (god I hate that word) view on things. Yeah there are a lot of generalisations made, but you will get that on a public forum. Personally, however I have to agree in the main with them. I much prefer reading the stuff that the likes of the previously mentioned post than the 'yeah I'm great/u got pwned (whatever thats meant to mean)/u r an exploiter cobblers you tend to see on certain other areas. But I'm not sure if this is down to where you come from - its the poster. It also helps if you are a Brit too as we probably are all a bit mad though
j0sephine	Posted - 2003.10.07 13:22:00 - [71] "If I bothered to hug anyone in this *** poor thread, it'd be to muffle the gunshots."* ... grins slightly Now that sounds almost like a challenge. ;s Miso -- just tryin' to make uncle Othnark proud, 'tsall :>~
Miso	Posted - 2003.10.07 13:29:00 - [72] Quote: "If I bothered to hug anyone in this *** poor thread, it'd be to muffle the gunshots."* ... grins slightly Now that sounds almost like a challenge. ;s Miso -- just tryin' to make uncle Othnark proud, 'tsall :>~ Uncle othnark? Dear God, never trust a minmatar with eyeliner... -------------------------------------------- Dead
Jash Illian	Posted - 2003.10.07 13:30:00 - [73] Quote: Quote: Quote: I think we all need a group hug... or massacre, one of the two... If I bothered to hug anyone in this ** poor thread, it'd be to muffle the gunshots. If it continues to survive without Polaris killing it, I guess I'll have to act out the generalistic stereotypical, childish (for a 32 year old) American people seem to be posting about. I don't think anyone has said that to be honest with you mate. Although you may be going some way to proving a few of the comments made if you do feel that way. Im my experience of this and other forums UK posters tend to look at things in a way that ony people from the UK can. This being with a slightly 'eccentric' (god I hate that word) view on things. Yeah there are a lot of generalisations made, but you will get that on a public forum. Personally, however I have to agree in the main with them. I much prefer reading the stuff that the likes of the previously mentioned post than the 'yeah I'm great/u got pwned (whatever thats meant to mean)/u r an exploiter cobblers you tend to see on certain other areas. But I'm not sure if this is down to where you come from - its the poster. It also helps if you are a Brit too as we probably are all a bit mad though In my experience anytime someone uses the words "Best" and a geographical location to denote anything besides weather, beaches or drugs they're being an snotty little pita who's looking for a fight. Get over yourself. The one thing we all have in common is we all have ****s. Nobody has an exclusive on that one. I mean its like you want corporations to oblige each other like its sex or something. Pffft I would rather **** my enemy.- Rohann Be careful out there. That other guy waiting in the queue for the gate MIGHT be a baby-munching frock-burner, YOU JUST DON'T KNOW!*- Lallante
Hackett	Posted - 2003.10.07 13:43:00 - [74] Quote: The one thing we all have in common is we all have *******s. Nobody has an exclusive on that one. Is that 'trousers'? Kidding.
j0sephine	Posted - 2003.10.07 13:45:00 - [75] "Uncle othnark? Dear God, never trust a minmatar with eyeliner..." ... It's a honorary title to show respect and Caldari custom, hush. =)
EvilEric	Posted - 2003.10.07 13:48:00 - [76] Quote: Quote: The one thing we all have in common is we all have *******s. Nobody has an exclusive on that one. Is that 'trousers'? Kidding. Nah it's beerguts
Ch'ryl	Posted - 2003.10.07 14:02:00 - [77] Hmmmm.....I've never really thought about where anyone was from. I'm from the UK, but to be honest apart from a few spelling differences and cultural references I would be hard pressed to tell UK and US posters apart. Of course I can often tell when someone posts whose first language is not English, but again, it's not so much the quality of the post that lets me know but usually a slight eccentricity in use of grammar. People, wit and intelligence are not commodities restricted to any particular nationality, just as a lack of either can be found just about anywhere in the world. Yes there are some obnoxious people on these forums and there are some genuinely funny people posting here too. I couldn't care where they're from in either case and certainly wouldn't tar everyone with the same nationality as....Tank CEO for instance...with the same brush. He's obnoxious because he's obnoxious, not because of where he lives. Why is it that when someone tells you that there are over a billion stars in the universe, you believe them, but if they tell you there is wet paint somewhere, you have to touch it to make sure?
Maud Dib	Posted - 2003.10.07 14:25:00 - [78] Quote: Hmmm, I assumed this thread was about ore or something so I hadn't read it until now... This is a general observation, not about what gets posted on these forums specifically, I think more frequently than from another country, a US person will say something along the lines of 'I come from the land of the free' or whatever. Followed by a bit of flag waving. Then someone will say something like 'actually I like where I come from too' to which the US person will respond 'OMG you just attacked me and my country - you've got a problem with the US because you're jealous, blah-de-blah-de-blah'. In general these boards are fairly free of this, but I think the main reason is a difference of culture. It's much more normal in the States for people to flag wave, I mean they even pray to it every morning when in school or something. Over on the other side of the world you get a lot less of that, in fact quite the opposite. As a result I don't think either side really understands why the other gets worked up over these things. Why do euro people post more sensible posts in general? I think the answer lies in the lower willingness to complain and immediately go into confrontation mode, as others have said. This is good and bad in a way, and of course each side of the Atlantic has their own set of whingers and non-whingers. LOl pray to the flag..I almost choked Athule thanks. I'm going to say this and I'm sure that one of my fellow Americans is going to jump down my back but I think as a whole the UK players tend to post more amusing and light hearted threads. Where as most (not all) Americans post are of the how do I or can you believe I can do this variety. Now I have read posts where people on both side of the Atlantic have made snide remarks about RL politics and history and those people suck. /me emotes Flag Waving at Athule
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2003.10.07 14:40:00 - [79] Seriously, you didn't think this thread would burst into flames pointing out one nationalitys percieved superiority, how naive are you? Convert Stations
Goldar Hektu	Posted - 2003.10.07 17:24:00 - [80] Edited by: Goldar Hektu on 07/10/2003 17:36:18 Quote: Seriously, you didn't think this thread would burst into flames pointing out one nationalitys percieved superiority, how naive are you? LOL Probably thought that the "best posters are English" statement was a foregone conclusion, rather than a highly dubious opinion. BTW guys, I did not pledge allegence to the US flag in school past the third grade. I have not said the pledge since then. If you judge all Americans by our flag-waving President, you're making a huge mistake. America is very diverse ethnically, and culturally. Generalizations are doomed to fail. Your 150mm Railgun II perfectly strikes Serpentis Drug Baron, wrecking for 192.8 damage.

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