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thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.07.23 12:23:00 - [121] Originally by: nync Edited by: nync on 23/07/2006 02:08:26 Official statement. Yesterday ERA alliance put in reinforsed number of RA POS'es in Cache region. This evening, at 23:57 eve time in capital ships fight near RUA POS at planet 1 moon 5, RA forces killed 10 E.R.A Alliance Dreadnoughts and a number of BS's and support ships. RA lost 3 drednoughts during this fight. Fight was lag free(for me). Frapsed. Thks to all involved. p.s. I will not post any reply's to alts or well known forum smackers. For details convo me ingame. When we cynoed on ERA dreads ALL of them were moving, thus not in siege mode. And that means they had a chance to jump to emergency field in m53 station , but they did not use it. Simple. Interdictor sphere was launched after we engaged ERA dreads. Are we going to get an official statement everytime you actually fight? "OMG THE FC DIDNT TELL US TO LOGOFF!!!!" >: )
LWMaverick	Posted - 2006.07.23 12:29:00 - [122] Originally by: Kirex :\| Just stop this. RA isnt (and Never was tbh :\|) a major power anymore. Your bragging because you killed some dreads? Take a look at this: Map 1 Map 2 Alliance Tournament Movie 1 btw: hey, at least I didnt post with an ALT :p Exactly... Region losses -> Dread losses /Mav Poverty
Darko1107 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.23 12:34:00 - [123] TBH, we are all grown ups and i hate seeing all this "wah wah wah its lame" stuff that i see the kiddies saying in games like CS and Red Alert etc. RA are playing the game to its fullest within game mechanics, it might be frustrating, but you cant blame them for pulling out all the stops when they have so many alliances bareing down upon them. ------------------ Sig removed, please keep it under the 24,000 byte limit, if you have any questions please email [email protected] - Xorus
DeadDuck Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.23 12:40:00 - [124] Edited by: DeadDuck on 23/07/2006 12:42:16 Originally by: thoth foc Originally by: nync Edited by: nync on 23/07/2006 02:08:26 Official statement. Yesterday ERA alliance put in reinforsed number of RA POS'es in Cache region. This evening, at 23:57 eve time in capital ships fight near RUA POS at planet 1 moon 5, RA forces killed 10 E.R.A Alliance Dreadnoughts and a number of BS's and support ships. RA lost 3 drednoughts during this fight. Fight was lag free(for me). Frapsed. Thks to all involved. p.s. I will not post any reply's to alts or well known forum smackers. For details convo me ingame. When we cynoed on ERA dreads ALL of them were moving, thus not in siege mode. And that means they had a chance to jump to emergency field in m53 station , but they did not use it. Simple. Interdictor sphere was launched after we engaged ERA dreads. Are we going to get an official statement everytime you actually fight? "OMG THE FC DIDNT TELL US TO LOGOFF!!!!" I think the coalition alsow announced the RA loss of 12 dreads...
Tethis Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.23 12:42:00 - [125] Originally by: nync And gratz to ERA for a good fight even outnumbered 2 to 1. They give us a hell of a fight. Thx for that Nync. Nuff said really. I don't care how this happened tbh. we did lose a whole heap of ships. No biggie, ships are replaceable and in fact have been. Every day in eve you can learn something new and after lenthy discussions on TS last night, i think we have come to a solution to the problem. Kudos to RA for fielding an impressive capital fleet. it was a great, albeit frightening sight(paper underwear 4tw). i think this thread has gone the distance now as it degenerating somewhat. see ya'll in space. только сильные выдерживают
Trancestor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.23 12:44:00 - [126] logon trap :) cant understand it, but, do u guys in rus have anything who called honor, i remember the old red guys in curse that know that, maybe that is why all they left.. worthless like always, red alli blame themself with there tactics... and all laugh like eve tv.. well gf and do it like always logoffsky's ---------------------------------------------
Volcane Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.23 12:50:00 - [127] Originally by: nync And gratz to ERA for a good fight even outnumbered 2 to 1. They give us a hell of a fight. Thanks for the accolade nync, it's always nice to hear that from your opponent. I look forward to returning to the fray some time and getting a good re-match. N.B. I think the time on my kill mail is off by two minutes, as mine says "23/07/2006" not "22/07/2006 23:58", although it was a little bit on the laggy side (damn server still playing up). "Unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality." "... It's structural perfection is matched only by it's hostility."
Shadoo The Taining corp	Posted - 2006.07.23 12:58:00 - [128] Originally by: nync Edited by: nync on 23/07/2006 11:59:32 To all whinners and smackers. Our capital ship fleet before fight was located in F2A system. It takes 2 jumps from F2A TO P7-45V. Interdictor and covert ops were present in P7-45V for ages, as resistance in Cache continues. So just same simple math: 1). Undock - 20 sec. 2). Gang invites - 50 sec. 3). Opening cyno field between F2A and P7-45V - 10 sec. 4). Jumping to field - 10 sec. 5). Restoring capasitor to 70% with 2 support cruizers - 5 min. 6). Opening cyno field in P7-45V - 10 sec. Total - 6 min, 40 sec. Siege mode - 10 min. All your login trap accusations are bull****. Ask ERA members who saw our basilisk support cruizers near M53 system and did not reported it to ERA dread fleet command and ERA members who were passingby system with cyno filed and 22 capital ships in system waiting to restore capasitor and not reporting it to ERA command. And we don't have to stay online all day for you to see our dread fleet logged in, but if you really want we can all leave them logged in in C-J6MT 4eva. Funny how being in F2A at the time seeing your dread pilots all pop up in green, I did not notice any of them appear in local... Perhaps you want to disclose the real location where they were (1 cyno out). So with your math, 20 sec logon, 50sec gang invites, 10 sec cyno, 10 sec jump = 1 min 30sec. Yep, that's about right. Good kills, shame about the tactic.
Brigitte	Posted - 2006.07.23 13:03:00 - [129] any fraps Nync?/
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.23 13:15:00 - [130] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel RA should enjoy this victory to the extent sicne these I win buttons they use are gonan expire one day ( Hope the WCS penalty come soon) and when login traps are made as an exploit i think we shall all see the real mettle of RA fighting which imo will prob be a nice dissbandment annoncment :P but thats just me imagining i guess Just let's see if the Coalition doesn't disband on the day you are talking about. _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Stormhold FinFleet Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.23 13:20:00 - [131] Edited by: Stormhold on 23/07/2006 13:20:32 It's stupid to smack. Well done (again) RA. If it was a logintrap (I won't say it was or wasn't, I wasn't even online to see buddylist changing) then it's less well done, but shooting 11 capital ships is in any case quite well done. EDIT: Oh yeah, please make a video soon.
Evengard Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.23 13:33:00 - [132] Originally by: Trancestor logon trap :) cant understand it, but, do u guys in rus have anything who called honor, i remember the old red guys in curse that know that, maybe that is why all they left.. How i tired of this honor bla bla bla etc. Then you fight againts 5 time bigger forces you don't care about honor. It dies one of the first. But who cares?? ___________________ Recon and Intercept
DarkNefrite Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.23 13:33:00 - [133] good job RA. and we all waiting a new record of killing dreads ;) --------------------------------------- In Battle we Dance
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.23 13:48:00 - [134] Originally by: Evengard Then you fight againts 5 time bigger forces you don't care about honor. It dies one of the first. But who cares?? No point, Evengard, they won't understand. I'm sure, some of our enemies expect us to ask a permission from them: to attack their ships, to attack their POS'es, to fly from one point to another, to login when they allow us (instead of when we want and/or have time), and to logoff when they allow us (instead of letting them to kill us, when amount of their ships is tenfold to ours). They will just continue to cry about honor, being bored, etc., when they have just NAP'ed every possible entity in the radius of 50+ jumps, blob at the very first oportunity, and complain about not beeing able to kill our ships, while we somehow manage to kill their's (I suppose, they think we use some exploit of being able to use our weapons/ships/wtahever while being offline). _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Wardani Millennium E.R.A	Posted - 2006.07.23 14:08:00 - [135] Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Evengard Then you fight againts 5 time bigger forces you don't care about honor. It dies one of the first. But who cares?? No point, Evengard, they won't understand. I'm sure, some of our enemies expect us to ask a permission from them: to attack their ships, to attack their POS'es, to fly from one point to another, to login when they allow us (instead of when we want and/or have time), and to logoff when they allow us (instead of letting them to kill us, when amount of their ships is tenfold to ours). They will just continue to cry about honor, being bored, etc., when they have just NAP'ed every possible entity in the radius of 50+ jumps, blob at the very first oportunity, and complain about not beeing able to kill our ships, while we somehow manage to kill their's (I suppose, they think we use some exploit of being able to use our weapons/ships/wtahever while being offline). The point is. If you fight with honour and you lose your regions you will still have the respect of the community. Now you've lost your regions anyway and have nothing. Grats on the dread kills RA, was well executed. -
Fargas Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.23 14:24:00 - [136] your respect worth nothing, you respect only surrendered enemyes only fun does matter we are having it =) every day klik, .... davno pora
Danari Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.23 14:25:00 - [137] The lamest of the lame. Wish all of you would wake up tomorrow on the China server.
Lunas Feelgood Euphoria Released Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.07.23 14:25:00 - [138] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Well i guess its hard to claim if it was a logoff trap or not but the ppl who fight RA know too damn well that they use it on daily basis thats why beleiveing that RA won without using it is realy hard. RA should enjoy this victory to the extent sicne these I win buttons they use are gonan expire one day ( Hope the WCS penalty come soon) and when login traps are made as an exploit i think we shall all see the real mettle of RA fighting which imo will prob be a nice dissbandment annoncment :P but thats just me imagining i guess As for the D2 cheerleaders and their allies who coem here cheering for RA , why dont u go deal with the A** whooping that T1 noob fleet ( no dissrepsect to goons i am quoting D2 name) gave ya resulting in 9 dread and 2 carrier losses ? Respect to ERA since i am very sure they have fought till the bitter END and also congrats to RA on their victory sicne till this moment it is a legitamite victory. I see no D2 comments about Red or ERA.. But since you took it up ill respond: Im utterly amased that RA is still holding up..They got so many enemys and they are still kicking.. So for that Major respect.. And to Yazoul Samaiel about the goons/D2 etc.. Well ERA decide to run away join a coalition and then fight together wiht like 10k peeps against RA and then telling every1 how good they are?? Goons has stayed and are fighting and thats more then i can say about you or you hole pathetic former alliance.... And ERA are acusing RA with a log on trick?? well i sincerly doubt that RA would need it against an incompetent alliance as ERA. So stop whining or maybe you should just do what you do best run away.. And also Yazoul Samaiel I got no idea why a great alliance like BOB would even lat you in. All you are is big mouth and got no skills ingame at all.. So im wonderign how much isk did you bribe BOB to be aloved in??
Beyond Horizon REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.23 14:25:00 - [139] Originally by: Fargas your respect worth nothing signed and: we have the respect from the people we want to have respect from, you are not on the list, sorry.
Capt Rob Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.23 16:27:00 - [140] Edited by: Capt Rob on 23/07/2006 16:27:43 Originally by: Lunas Feelgood Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel Well i guess its hard to claim if it was a logoff trap or not but the ppl who fight RA know too damn well that they use it on daily basis thats why beleiveing that RA won without using it is realy hard. RA should enjoy this victory to the extent sicne these I win buttons they use are gonan expire one day ( Hope the WCS penalty come soon) and when login traps are made as an exploit i think we shall all see the real mettle of RA fighting which imo will prob be a nice dissbandment annoncment :P but thats just me imagining i guess As for the D2 cheerleaders and their allies who coem here cheering for RA , why dont u go deal with the A whooping that T1 noob fleet ( no dissrepsect to goons i am quoting D2 name) gave ya resulting in 9 dread and 2 carrier losses ? Respect to ERA since i am very sure they have fought till the bitter END and also congrats to RA on their victory sicne till this moment it is a legitamite victory. I see no D2 comments about Red or ERA.. But since you took it up ill respond: Im utterly amased that RA is still holding up..They got so many enemys and they are still kicking.. So for that Major respect.. And to Yazoul Samaiel about the goons/D2 etc.. Well ERA decide to run away join a coalition and then fight together wiht like 10k peeps against RA and then telling every1 how good they are?? Goons has stayed and are fighting and thats more then i can say about you or you hole pathetic former alliance.... And ERA are acusing RA with a log on trick?? well i sincerly doubt that RA would need it against an incompetent alliance as ERA. So stop whining or maybe you should just do what you do best run away.. And also Yazoul Samaiel I got no idea why a great alliance like BOB would even lat you in. All you are is big mouth and got no skills ingame at all.. So im wonderign how much isk did you bribe BOB to be aloved in?? well this thread has surely now been complete with a bitter post from d2 now i could reply in your manner but i think ill rise above that kinda attitude. so overall gj ra you executed a good plan well and i say if you can do it, do it and to lunas, yaz is a good guy and a decent player. all i see here is a bad attempt to smack him b/c he posted his opinion and it made you Deros is *
WRWR Rage and Terror	Posted - 2006.07.23 16:34:00 - [141] poor coalition, stop whine here and go mine again for ur dreadnoughtslike shinra in tenerifis with gang 100 mining barges
WRWR Rage and Terror	Posted - 2006.07.23 16:35:00 - [142] Edited by: WRWR on 23/07/2006 16:35:21 Originally by: Trancestor logon trap :) cant understand it, but, do u guys in rus have anything who called honor, i remember the old red guys in curse that know that, maybe that is why all they left.. worthless like always, red alli blame themself with there tactics... and all laugh like eve tv.. well gf and do it like always logoffsky's stop whine noob logon trap > ur blob tactic
CardboardSword42 Celtic Anarchy	Posted - 2006.07.23 16:53:00 - [143] It's silly that people are complaining about a 'log in trap' because it's 'abusing a game mechanic' when they are also abusing a game mechanic, the friends list, to tell if someone is logged on or off. The RA dreads didn't log in on top of the ERA fleet, they had to cyno in. If they were logged in they could have cyno'd in anyways, the only difference is that if they were logged in ERA would not have attacked. ERA were using game mechanics to see if the capital pilots were logged in to make a tactical decision. It sounds like their own use of a game mechanic caused them to attack the Red POS because they felt confident because the RED capitol pilots weren't logged in. If they couldn't tell if a pilot is logged on, then they might have been more cautious I'm Ex-Biomass, that makes me cool But now I'm KOS and it's all about the manlove
Knocturnal Black Omega Security E.R.A	Posted - 2006.07.23 16:58:00 - [144] Originally by: Pastora complain about not beeing able to kill our ships, while we somehow manage to kill their's . Have you ever thought not to fit that many WCS on your ships ? if you kill like 100 RA ships you`ll see 90of them had WCS. (including t1 frigs that's just lame). /me HUGZ YAZUL Ragards.
Emno Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.23 17:25:00 - [145] Originally by: CardboardSword42 It's silly that people are complaining about a 'log in trap' because it's 'abusing a game mechanic' when they are also abusing a game mechanic, the friends list, to tell if someone is logged on or off. The RA dreads didn't log in on top of the ERA fleet, they had to cyno in. If they were logged in they could have cyno'd in anyways, the only difference is that if they were logged in ERA would not have attacked. ERA were using game mechanics to see if the capital pilots were logged in to make a tactical decision. It sounds like their own use of a game mechanic caused them to attack the Red POS because they felt confident because the RED capitol pilots weren't logged in. If they couldn't tell if a pilot is logged on, then they might have been more cautious awesome
welsh wizard	Posted - 2006.07.23 17:26:00 - [146] I've never known anyone to be so bitter in defeat as some of you coalition members. I'm not exactly a fan of login traps myself, but ****ing and moaning on here about it every 3 seconds doesn't do much for your cause.
Soul Redemption Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.23 18:25:00 - [147] I just farted
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.07.23 19:11:00 - [148] Originally by: Knocturnal Have you ever thought not to fit that many WCS on your ships ? if you kill like 100 RA ships you`ll see 90of them had WCS. (including t1 frigs that's just lame). Are you talking about your fellow coalition members, or what? Because otherwise it is just an uber lie. If you fit so many WCSs in your fleets, it doesn't mean that we do them same! And superb point there, CardboardSword42!!! _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
Eric carr Crisis Corp Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.07.23 19:22:00 - [149] I¦m not gonna whine about the logonski as referd, cuz i laugh my ass off everytime i notice the big red/green ligt flashing at bottom right. It is a part off the game, even if you never will see me gonna do it. I personally think it is lame but "everyone" is doin it so as long as it cant be balanced we have to do it aswell. Btw their is way to counter it, ask ra when they tried to gank our frieghtors using what i think was a combined logon fleet movment action. About the funniest I have ever done in eve thanks to a complete nut ERA FC . But login action isent as lame as alt spys. Or even worse, TS-spys. I can¦t belive what some is doin for winning a silly stupid game!!?? Get a life and play for fun and relax, who cares if you loose a ship or 2. Don¦t field a ship you cant afford loose. I mean sometimes you see allinces/corps fileding a nice fleet and heading towards a region, and 1-2 jumps out of the enemy fleet, they stop and wont engage! What is wrong with ya!!?? Oki if they outnumber you it is understandible but when it is about same numbers?? FFS jump in and fight, you came with a fleet other part counter it, so lets fight!! If everyone loosen up a bit, stop the flaming, (on both side) even BH can be a nice fella in local but on the forum he is just as a big retard as everyone else, we can have a relaxed fun game as it is intended to be. If I was a scared as some of the community is in loosing ships I wouldent joined a crazy rumanien gang in Delta Team where they give the orders in rumanien. They tried for 1 min talk english but then they fell back to their native language. I coudent play cuz i laughed so much when I tried to figure ut what is happening. It kinda reminds when non native russian speakers join a RA op, it must be hilarius... Please only use english in your signature - Jacques([email protected])
ScatosHoken Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.23 20:01:00 - [150] Originally by: Swor Alls fair in love and war who cares if the enemy thinks your noble as long as you win. if we still fought like nobles, todays armies would stand in big lines 500m apart and blow each other away, wars isn't fair get used to it. using the game mechanics to your advantage isn't cheating its strategy and tactics. I may just quote this post every time someone complains about this tactic or that tactic... its so true! flubba jubba

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