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Another Alt
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Posted - 2006.07.24 13:56:00 -
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 Originally by: Burlock Ironfist
i smell RA Alt-ski behind this...
Since the admins have clearly stated (in the stickied thread, above), that alts used for simple trolling will be deleted, and they have ways of knowing who is who's main, I guess they can see and check who my main is and that my main is, indeed, a member of the Coalition. That's why my "troll" wasn't deleted.
I also notice nobody bothers to play the ball, but the man. Please feel free to debunk my claims: Have you never seen outright racist comments about RA members (or more accurately, PLAYERS behind the RA members) in any Coalition comms? I have. Daily. Several times per day. And here, too. "Russians don't know the meaning of the word sovereignity" was mentioned in another thread. The word twists I mentioned ("logoffski" etc) are a direct attempt to tie a tactic to a _player_ nationality and give it a negative connotation.
Tell you what: You disprove my claims, and I'll reveal who my main is.
So, all Chinese are macro-miners. All Russians are logoffski POS spammerski. I wonder what the next example of the superiority of The Western Man will be...
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Nafri
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 14:02:00 -
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Well LV, you may say what you want, either with your mains of with your alts.
This is the biggest capital vs capital fleetbattle Eve has ever seen. I wonder why only cause it happened next to a POS it souldnt be a capital vs capital fleetbattle?
If your already so much into forum wars that you cant even acccept that people are acutally just interesting and amazed about such stuff and you have to drag everything into a flamefest... well bad for you.
From Dusk till Dawn
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Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.24 14:37:00 -
[213]
Originally by: Another Alt
Since the admins have clearly stated (in the stickied thread, above), that alts used for simple trolling will be deleted, and they have ways of knowing who is who's main, I guess they can see and check who my main is and that my main is, indeed, a member of the Coalition. That's why my "troll" wasn't deleted.
I also notice nobody bothers to play the ball, but the man. Please feel free to debunk my claims: Have you never seen outright racist comments about RA members (or more accurately, PLAYERS behind the RA members) in any Coalition comms? I have. Daily. Several times per day. And here, too. "Russians don't know the meaning of the word sovereignity" was mentioned in another thread. The word twists I mentioned ("logoffski" etc) are a direct attempt to tie a tactic to a _player_ nationality and give it a negative connotation.
Tell you what: You disprove my claims, and I'll reveal who my main is.
So, all Chinese are macro-miners. All Russians are logoffski POS spammerski. I wonder what the next example of the superiority of The Western Man will be...
Originally by: Abdalion
Suggestion, please repeat after me; I will ignore the trolls, I will ignore the trolls.
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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Burzhuj
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.24 14:43:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Nafri
This is the biggest capital vs capital fleetbattle Eve has ever seen. I wonder why only cause it happened next to a POS it souldnt be a capital vs capital fleetbattle?
Do you have any idea how else we can catch enemy dread fleet? 
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Burlock Ironfist
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.24 14:49:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Burzhuj
Originally by: Nafri
This is the biggest capital vs capital fleetbattle Eve has ever seen. I wonder why only cause it happened next to a POS it souldnt be a capital vs capital fleetbattle?
Do you have any idea how else we can catch enemy dread fleet?
that isnt the point your calling it something it wasnt. just like calling a PURE BS fleet even thought it has crusiers and friggs in... its just not true.
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nync
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Posted - 2006.07.24 15:01:00 -
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Originally by: Burlock Ironfist
Originally by: Burzhuj
Originally by: Nafri
This is the biggest capital vs capital fleetbattle Eve has ever seen. I wonder why only cause it happened next to a POS it souldnt be a capital vs capital fleetbattle?
Do you have any idea how else we can catch enemy dread fleet?
that isnt the point your calling it something it wasnt. just like calling a PURE BS fleet even thought it has crusiers and friggs in... its just not true.
you are just making fool of yourself
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Niding
Polaris Project
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Posted - 2006.07.24 15:07:00 -
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Impressive battle and amazing video.
Downloaded it 1 hour ago and im still playing it 
If nothing else, this battle inspire noobs like me to work harder to explore 0.0 and
get into cap ships.
Simply amazing....
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Raeff
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 15:15:00 -
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sounds like it was one hell of a fight, wish i was there
sure it hurt, but almost all the ships have been replaced already like any decent alliance/coalition would do .. surely you do realize the ore we have in the area right? isk practically grows on trees down here .. next?
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Blitz0r
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.24 15:28:00 -
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Credits to RA for that fight in the video.. logoff trap or not, as E.R.A now knows they have to be on their toes even for logontricks.
Im not really sure what E.R.A was doing to counter that attack IMHO they should have killed more than 2-3 dreads with 10 or more dreads on their side. i believe its a FC error but i have no information about that.
And about my previous comment it wasnt pointed at russia in whole since i know russia holds some of the wealthiest guys around and some of the poorest too.. but that aside.
Hope to see you in a fight soon.
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Eric carr
Crisis Corp
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.24 15:31:00 -
[220]
<----workin as our guard in the LV dreadparkinghouse.... I can tell you i havent manage to get the the otherside of the building yet
What people forgets is that dreads sux really, Oki it is cool to kill em, canŠt say i dident do the wave when we killed many ra-dreads. But now as IŠm growing older in this pos-war era I start to hate em! Come on, tell me a good use for a dread in this game?? If the donŠt change the attributes on the dreads it is like babysitting everytime you use em .. I almost cheer when we loose a dread, that means we get 1 more accomplish BS pilot instead hahahahahahaha 
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Jaabaa Prime
Dental Drilling Corporation
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.24 15:33:00 -
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OMG, this thread is still going on ?
Let's cut to the chase here and sum up all the information that has been posted.
RA logged their capital ship fleet on in C-J and jumped from the station to engage a target. No one knew where the heck they went because cyno fields were all over the map.
According to RA, someone (maybe more) from ERA saw them in space at the first cyno field while they were recharging their cap for the 2nd jump to P7-. Not sure if that true or not, but I don't think that the majority of the coalition pilots know all the CS pilot's names in RA, so I would assume that there was just a "Load of RA in AB-XYZ, not seen them though".
RA jumped in on the dreads that were engaging a POS and obliterated them whilst losing a few dreads of their own in the process.
Was it a "logon trap" ? I don't think so. My interpretation of a logon trap is a freighter getting the "all clear" and then seeing 20 hostiles logon in local while the frieghter has just warped. Did RA logon their cap fleet all at once ? Yes. Did they surprise ERA at that POS in P7- so far away from C-J ? Yes. Due to the siege modules were the ERA dreads "trapped" ? Yes.
I would say it was a good call that any alliance would have made, and RA executed it perfectly. So kudos for that.
With regards to RA's tactics, I have been fighting them for what seems like a life time and it is very, very frustrating and I am by no means a fan-boy of theirs, but they have mastered the use of guerilla tactics in EVE based on the limited ablilities that EVE really offers to a force that controls an area of space.
RA went from controlling/holding a couple of regions to controlling/holding one station/system, and I don't think it will be long before that changes too. They are backed into a corner and are going nowhere fast.
So, to sum it up again: RA won a battle but are by no means winning the war.
** I'm posting my own opinion here, and not representing LV or the coalition. **
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Michuh
Vortex.
Maelstrom Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.24 15:45:00 -
[222]
Congratz on those kills RA, Exciting video, made a home in my collection for sure.
With such a big event, smack is enevitable, as far as the leaders of the coalition is concered, it has certainly sealed resolve.. We'll all be doing our very best to remove RA from the South East.
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roudaaja2
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Posted - 2006.07.24 15:56:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Obivan Efa
"What ever that doesn't Kill me just makes me stronger"
Ha!
Loosing 11 capital war ships makes ERA stronger?
If so? ERA is the strongest allaince in EVE now!
Muhahahaha!
And the above post makes you the funniest guy in EVE. For real.
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Atlus
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.24 16:02:00 -
[224]
Edited by: Atlus on 24/07/2006 16:05:31
1. Obivan Efa is his main.
Long time since last seen you m8... very good news to hear you want to join RA ;)
2. Guys you just telling too many lies here... i saw many times coalition members are using log-in trap tactics too and they use wcs too and also they use any known bug (such like cargo of carrier and local invisibility by tutorial)... so plz tell for yourselfes and not for every member of your corp/alliance
edit: i dont remember when i was using login trap last time... year or maybe more... but this tactic rocks :D
thank you everyone.. your dear Atlus ;)
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Obivan Efa
The Machines
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Posted - 2006.07.24 16:19:00 -
[225]
Heya, Atlus!
I'm sure that after such triumph victories a lot of good pilots will join RA
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Bazman
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 16:29:00 -
[226]
I lament the fact that ERA lost all those dreadnoughts
But then I smile and realise that RA will never actually retake systems again without losing all their dreads because the (highly effective) methods used to take down the dreadnoughts attacking a POS are going to be copied and used against them.
The only certain thing about this war is that there are going to be loads more dread losses for all involved, and I know LV can replace them like they replace Chow's tempests :P
/me goes back to lurking
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Hi TUXFORD! Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks.
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Fargas
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.24 16:39:00 -
[227]
we will get it for free =)
why you left shinra? too boring?
klik, ....
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Bazman
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.24 16:56:00 -
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I'm afraid I could no longer handle the fear of being a target for RA, given my impressive death record and lack of kills I was getting. But hey, now I don't need to worry about being shot by everyone I meet, right?
p.s Shinra ftw
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Hi TUXFORD! Blasterboat for tier 3 Gallente battleship please! Make it look cool too. Thanks.
I am a |
Papa Digger
REUNI0N
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.24 16:57:00 -
[229]
Originally by: Bazman
I lament the fact that ERA lost all those dreadnoughts
But then I smile and realise that RA will never actually retake systems again without losing all their dreads because the (highly effective) methods used to take down the dreadnoughts attacking a POS are going to be copied and used against them.
1. Never say "never". 
2. I think that long war with RA give some lessons to you. Surprises will never ended. After Dreads will be Titans era. 
PS. Anyway it's only Coalition (especially LV) wish to continue war. RA can survive under any pressure. And you ll be losing your ships and resource on south-east until you ll be smarter, and sigh NAP with us.
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Alha Qmar
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Posted - 2006.07.24 16:58:00 -
[230]
Edited by: Alha Qmar on 24/07/2006 17:00:42
Not sure what era was thinking, deploying 11 dreads with no backup fleet. Think saw only 2 battleships from era warp to the dreads to help defend them. If they had a mixed fleet of over 50 ships with multiple battleships they would have killed a few more cap ships.
Its still red alliance that was the lamest of them all, its funny how rasatan a complete noob fills his carrier drone bays with medium scout drones .
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Zhaine
Shinra
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.24 17:25:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Papa Digger
Originally by: Bazman
I lament the fact that ERA lost all those dreadnoughts
But then I smile and realise that RA will never actually retake systems again without losing all their dreads because the (highly effective) methods used to take down the dreadnoughts attacking a POS are going to be copied and used against them.
1. Never say "never".
2. I think that long war with RA give some lessons to you. Surprises will never ended. After Dreads will be Titans era.
PS. Anyway it's only Coalition (especially LV) wish to continue war. RA can survive under any pressure. And you ll be losing your ships and resource on south-east until you ll be smarter, and sigh NAP with us.
One way or another I will fight RA until they're gone from the South-East, and I know a lot of people who are the same. We've had enough of you and we wont stop until you're gone. This ain't smack it's just fact
It'll take a fair few more P7s and F2As before we start to feel any hurt, while on the other hand I haven't seen your dreads next to a hostile POS since Q-GQ all those months ago.
heh NAP. . . hehehe
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Fargas
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.24 18:49:00 -
[232]
Coalition existing with the purpose to do something "against" not "for" will not last long.
klik, ....
davno pora |
LTD THOR
Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.07.24 19:32:00 -
[233]
we thought that was clear right from the start!? for teh whole eve-mankind!
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Khirzan Wolfson
The Taining corp
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.07.24 19:49:00 -
[234]
so is there fraps of this or what?
-KW
Co-Ceo,The T
KOS Diplomat |
Ivan Stang
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Posted - 2006.07.24 20:05:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Khirzan Wolfson
so is there fraps of this or what?
Linkage, Page6
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Aeon Yakati
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.24 20:35:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Fargas
Coalition existing with the purpose to do something "against" not "for" will not last long.
So if that's true, why exactly should they sign a NAP if that's supposed to be the end of the coalition then?
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Kanae
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Posted - 2006.07.24 20:37:00 -
[237]
Well done
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0ursulaert
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Posted - 2006.07.24 21:03:00 -
[238]
Originally by: HotSeat
Does a 10 on 1 battle make you happy?
KOS - 2302
LV - 2398
-v- - 1251
CHIMP - 578
TOTAL - 6529
RA - 877
no but im sure a 7.4 on 1 battle doesnt make them happy
kudos to RA for doing what they can
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Nebba Kenezzer
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.24 21:24:00 -
[239]
Originally by: 0ursulaert
KOS - 2302
LV - 2398
-v- - 1251
CHIMP - 578
TOTAL - 6529
RA - 877
no but im sure a 7.4 on 1 battle doesnt make them happy
kudos to RA for doing what they can
I will ignore the trolls.
Nebba - The Vocal Majority
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Fargas
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.24 21:45:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Aeon Yakati
So if that's true, why exactly should they sign a NAP if that's supposed to be the end of the coalition then?
Yeah, without any enemy pvpers will follow your way much faster. But even now this process is going and going.
Its not fun to fight RED, too hard to find targets.
klik, ....
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