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REVENGE ANGEL
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.23 02:56:00 -
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Bored and looking for a little excitement I undocked and started tanking the enemy army with my carrier for sh!ts and giggles. No problems, I was within docking range and had done it a multitude of times before. I have not CTD'd in forever so was willing to take the risk.
I was being hit by a huge fleet but was still agroing some nearby frigs and cruisers with smart bombs and waves of some disposable heavy drones (too many hostiles to loose the fighters)... Eh, had plenty of cap left and no probs with the tank.
Once I got down to half cap I stopped the smartbombs, recalled drones and watched the "drones in local" drop to 0. I waited for the agro timer to end so I could dock and hung around for a while to see how long the tank would hold against the onslaught. It was doing well for quite some time considering the imense amount of firepower the enemy was unloading into my arse 
Ok, well guess it's time to dock and chat with the locals, have a few laughs... uh oh, the dock doesnt seem to be responding, lemme do the drop list and select dock that way... hmmm, no response.... not good. Lemme see if I can do anything else... nope can't select another target in over view. Ok, this is strange, I can still be seen typing in alliance, gang and corp chat... weird. Ok, this is getting serious, my cap is almost gone... it's ok, be patient, you'll see yourself docking any second now Hey now, I'm starting to go into armor... crap, now i'm into structure .
Hmmmm, why am I holding at 1/2 structure? How deep does this rabbit hole go? Hey, why's my mail flashing? DAMNIT, thats my kill mail.
An hour later, i'm still looking at my ship, people can still see me typing in chat and I have my own kill mail from an hour ago... priceless.
To those that said "dont lie about a bug" I would say the following screen shot proves I wasnt lieing 
Borked
You tell em I'm coming, and HECK'S COMING WITH ME! Sorry, I've been attending anger management :( |

PoWeR1
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.23 03:15:00 -
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whoa!!! very unlucky bro, hope u was insured and hope u petitioned it and get ur carrier back from ccp and this lovely buggy game .
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Martyr09
People's Front Of Judea
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Posted - 2006.07.23 03:30:00 -
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'tis a *****.. but i would 99% say you will get "no logs.."
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Zudari
eXin Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.23 03:30:00 -
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well that sucks hope you get your carrier back
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Double TaP
The Establishment
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Posted - 2006.07.23 03:33:00 -
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i was running a mission the other day, and i pressed the warp button and my ship started doing that collision thing. thing was, nothing was within 15km of me. so i did the same thing you did, told myself it was going to be okay, il be warping any second. i stopped my ship, canceled warp, and then pressed warp again. once again started doing the collision with nothing thing, and watched my nighthawk go pop. rather depressing as any petition you file will be answered sometime around the release of kali 3.
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REVENGE ANGEL
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.23 07:14:00 -
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I petitioned with links to the screen shot so we'll see. I never fly anything I can't afford to lose but this was a crappy way to lose a ship. The ship itself is only a fraction of the value of the loss I estimate it's value in the area of 3-4 billion, about a months worth of my t2 sales.
If my backup carrier suffers the same fate... I'M FLYING TO ICELAND
Disclaimer: just a joke ccp, don't get bent outta shape 
You tell em I'm coming, and HECK'S COMING WITH ME! Sorry, I've been attending anger management :( |

Malthros Zenobia
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve Kimotoro Directive
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Posted - 2006.07.23 07:23:00 -
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Edited by: Malthros Zenobia on 23/07/2006 07:23:19 Your pic is loading from bottom to top instead of top to bottom.
YOUR PIC IS THE ANTI-PIC! 
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Avon
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.23 07:24:00 -
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Client de-sync. You can see yourself typing, but no-one else can because you are already disconnected.
I have a 400mb fraps of my ship orbiting it's target, and other ships shooting. Nothing I selected on the UI actually functioned. Reason? Because my ship was already destroyed and I had been podded.
No refund.
The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
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mazzilliu
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.23 07:25:00 -
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Edited by: mazzilliu on 23/07/2006 07:27:45 Edited by: mazzilliu on 23/07/2006 07:26:47 something similar happened to me ome time ago- i undocked in my raven and turns out there was a huge antipirate blob outside the station, i found out because my computer crashed and when i logged in i was dieing. i was too far away to redock, so i died. (wasted 15 minutes of my life afterwards trying to tell them i wasnt doing some 'dishonorable logoff to save your ship tactic' because i had a spitout bookmark. one member of the blob responded by concluding that their heavy missile/nos typhoon setup is indeed superior.)
anyways i didn't petition it, as i believe that when theres such a large number of ships against you at once, lag isnt exactly some surprise you never expect to have when pvping.
Quote: I have not CTD'd in forever so was willing to take the risk.
[...] I petitioned...
petition system = abused ---------
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Glassback
M. Corp Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.23 07:51:00 -
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If you are bored, try reading your inbox.
G.
I've got an idea--an idea so smart that my head would explode if I even began to know what I'm talking about
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Nicholas Barker
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.23 08:07:00 -
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happened to me before, logs don't show anything or some *******s, only reason they might give you it back is cuz they'll feel sorry for you cuz it's a carrier. -----------------
Where'd me pod go? |

Sovy Kurosei
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.23 08:15:00 -
[12]
Ouch. Stings even more that you were in docking range as well. D2 guys must have had a good laugh though. ___________________
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.07.23 09:11:00 -
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Originally by: Double TaP i was running a mission the other day, and i pressed the warp button and my ship started doing that collision thing. thing was, nothing was within 15km of me. so i did the same thing you did, told myself it was going to be okay, il be warping any second. i stopped my ship, canceled warp, and then pressed warp again. once again started doing the collision with nothing thing, and watched my nighthawk go pop. rather depressing as any petition you file will be answered sometime around the release of kali 3.
Biomass?
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.23 09:23:00 -
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Oh god why would anyone use a bitmap?
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Nafri
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.23 09:34:00 -
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Deserves you right for exploiting a bug

From Dusk till Dawn Sig removed, e-mail us if you'd like to know why. -ReverendM ([email protected]) |

Ling Xiao
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Posted - 2006.07.23 09:34:00 -
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Had this happen to me several times (thankfully in nothing THAT expensive). My best one was when I was in my pod, NEXT TO my ship while it was on fire but apparently intact and still orbitting as I had told it to. I couldn't move but I had my own killmail, and chat was working.
GMs won't do squat.
Sorry for your loss.
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Nafri
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.23 09:36:00 -
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Originally by: Sovy Kurosei Ouch. Stings even more that you were in docking range as well. D2 guys must have had a good laugh though.
He wasnt in docking range, he was just out of it.
From Dusk till Dawn Sig removed, e-mail us if you'd like to know why. -ReverendM ([email protected]) |

Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.07.23 09:43:00 -
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ah well dunno if u will get youre stuff back but that was a bug the other night.
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Black Lotus
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.23 09:48:00 -
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Edited by: Black Lotus on 23/07/2006 09:48:58
Originally by: Avon Client de-sync. You can see yourself typing, but no-one else can because you are already disconnected.
I have a 400mb fraps of my ship orbiting it's target, and other ships shooting. Nothing I selected on the UI actually functioned. Reason? Because my ship was already destroyed and I had been podded.
No refund.
Have had the same happen as well. However, i havnt been able to still get my mail to load if client de-synced.
Mail loads = still connected. Check the ss again.
The thing that ccp can say, is u still had agrro from something tho. cause the real question is, why didnt ur ship dock?
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Mikal Drey
Purgatorial Janitors Inc. Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2006.07.23 09:51:00 -
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hey hey
screenies can be way to easily edited.
it was weird to see a BMP and not a PNG screenshoot too.
also looking at the pic your still under attack ?
but yeah very odd that you got a killmail from earlier. Maybe CCP will think that its a second carrier and you deleted/hadnt got the second killmail just yet.
dunno but GL with the pettition.
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Miss Overlord
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Posted - 2006.07.23 09:52:00 -
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there is a problem sometimes where u hit dock and it wont dock (de synch wiht server or delayed) it can go on for 10 minutes can be quite annoying CCP need an overrid if i hit dock and it cannot do it then it warps me off automatically to SS or ctd straight out.
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.23 09:56:00 -
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I can't be the only one who sees at as VERY weird that you have another death 4 minutes before your big long tanking spree with your carrier?
Also, if you were sitting there doing nothing, but could load your mail (so weren't DCed), why didn't you get podded? Are youi seriously suggesting that you were allowed to sit outside the station without being podded for 40mins, with that many hostiles around you?
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Inanna Sumer
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.23 10:04:00 -
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Originally by: HippoKing I can't be the only one who sees at as VERY weird that you have another death 4 minutes before your big long tanking spree with your carrier?
I hear CONCORD will send you an EVEMail when you kill/pod someone (for example, with smartbombs), confirm/deny?
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.23 10:05:00 -
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Edited by: HippoKing on 23/07/2006 10:06:03
Originally by: Inanna Sumer
Originally by: HippoKing I can't be the only one who sees at as VERY weird that you have another death 4 minutes before your big long tanking spree with your carrier?
I hear CONCORD will send you an EVEMail when you kill/pod someone (for example, with smartbombs), confirm/deny?
yeah, thats true  I lose
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Cloud Alexander
Nubs.
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Posted - 2006.07.23 10:29:00 -
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Edited by: Cloud Alexander on 23/07/2006 10:32:16 Ummmm....If you check the time on your killmail and the time on your Screenshot at the bottom left its 40minute time difference and it appears on your screen that they are still shoting you? and whats up with no pod mails after the time you received the mail (00:22) and the time of your screenshot (01:06)?!?!?! 
Very Strange indeed.
EDIT: I would definately cross reference with the person that has the killmail on you the time....or if I was CCP I would do that.
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Cowboy Ramrott
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.23 10:33:00 -
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hahaha 
u had client de-sync , u thought ur still in dockin range but ur already was out of it. on ur client u saw urself still in docking range but u werent.
sorry if its a bit laggy when 50 peeps shooting only at one ship , but hey , thats the way it goes
and that u got laag as u popped , well its like laag when a freighter with a lot of stuff inside his stomach pops
take it as a man 
our pilots had no laag and welcome to EvE
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Dinique
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.23 10:36:00 -
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Originally by: REVENGE ANGEL Bored and looking for a little excitement I undocked and started tanking the enemy army with my carrier for sh!ts and giggles. No problems, I was within docking range and had done it a multitude of times before. I have not CTD'd in forever so was willing to take the risk.
I was being hit by a huge fleet but was still agroing some nearby frigs and cruisers with smart bombs and waves of some disposable heavy drones (too many hostiles to loose the fighters)... Eh, had plenty of cap left and no probs with the tank.
Once I got down to half cap I stopped the smartbombs, recalled drones and watched the "drones in local" drop to 0. I waited for the agro timer to end so I could dock and hung around for a while to see how long the tank would hold against the onslaught. It was doing well for quite some time considering the imense amount of firepower the enemy was unloading into my arse 
Ok, well guess it's time to dock and chat with the locals, have a few laughs... uh oh, the dock doesnt seem to be responding, lemme do the drop list and select dock that way... hmmm, no response.... not good. Lemme see if I can do anything else... nope can't select another target in over view. Ok, this is strange, I can still be seen typing in alliance, gang and corp chat... weird. Ok, this is getting serious, my cap is almost gone... it's ok, be patient, you'll see yourself docking any second now Hey now, I'm starting to go into armor... crap, now i'm into structure .
Hmmmm, why am I holding at 1/2 structure? How deep does this rabbit hole go? Hey, why's my mail flashing? DAMNIT, thats my kill mail.
An hour later, i'm still looking at my ship, people can still see me typing in chat and I have my own kill mail from an hour ago... priceless.
To those that said "dont lie about a bug" I would say the following screen shot proves I wasnt lieing 
Borked
I was there. You could tank our long range Battleships, you've been doing it on more than once occasion, got brave moved out of docking range blabbing on about how it tickles. Then we moved in close, webbed/nossed/scrambled you down and let you have it. you panicked and double boosted = cap gone. Then you died. You were in a dictor bubble and your pod got popped too. You were outside that station for almost an hour, no one else had any lag. You couldnt dock as you were atleast 5 kilometres out of docking range, you were 5 km out of docking range before we even started shooting you that time.
150 people in local, only about 55 in that fight. So where did the lag come from? We didnt get any. _____
There's so many different worlds So many different suns And we have just one world But we live in different ones
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Inanna Sumer
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.23 10:37:00 -
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Originally by: Cloud Alexander Edited by: Cloud Alexander on 23/07/2006 10:32:16 Ummmm....If you check the time on your killmail and the time on your Screenshot at the bottom left its 40minute time difference and it appears on your screen that they are still shoting you? and whats up with no pod mails after the time you received the mail (00:22) and the time of your screenshot (01:06)?!?!?! 
Very Strange indeed.
EDIT: I would definately cross reference with the person that has the killmail on you the time....or if I was CCP I would do that.
I believe EVE has an aggression timer countdown that has to expire before you can dock, or am I mistaken?
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My views and opinions in this post are my own and in no way reflect those of my corporation or alliance. |

Cowboy Ramrott
Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.23 10:38:00 -
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maybe next time dont fly around tankin us, beein to confident it will work well for u
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Inanna Sumer
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.23 10:44:00 -
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Originally by: Marcsen I was being hit by a huge fleet but was still agroing some nearby frigs and cruisers with smart bombs and waves of some disposable heavy drones (too many hostiles to loose the fighters)... Eh, had plenty of cap left and no probs with the tank.
You'll get into trouble because smartbombing in docking range of a conquerable station is a nono. Smartbombs aren't allowed within 5km of any station. However, as it's conquerable, the protection doesn't work properly. You were indeed using a bug which you should be aware of that because of the recent events in xzh involving a dominix that got a warning.
I believe discussing GM actions such as warnings isn't allowed on these forums? Also how would you know a warning was given unless you were the pilot in question, the GM form letter is deliberately vague as to not tell the petitioner if any action was taken or not- to preserve the confidentiality between the user and CCP.
Also under section 1 of the Suspensions and Ban Policy, something is only considered an exploit if there has been a public announcement about it advising people not to partake in the activity, or if the character in question has been warned about it in the past by a GM.
http://www.eve-online.com/pnp/banning.asp
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