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Ancy Denaries Caldari Amarr Sisterhood of Galactic Sirens	Posted - 2008.09.06 00:09:00 - [121] Edited by: Ancy Denaries on 06/09/2008 00:13:15 Originally by: Melvyn Ducharme Edited by: Melvyn Ducharme on 09/07/2008 21:08:45 http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ravennavyissuenewsetup1ny7.jpg Please tell me that you are a troll. Failfit 2000? This is more like it. While not permatanked, it's more than +50% dps step up from your fit, and that's WITHOUT drones, mind you. Add another 124 DPS for the drones (with my skills). Sure, it ain't cheap, but damn yours ain't either. If you overload the shieldbooster you get a peak DPS tanked of over 1200 incoming dps. Enough to replenish the shield even in the gravest situations. And yes, I face mostly Sanshas. (haven't bothered changing missiles to Paradise in EFT). Get a few hardwirings in there and you're way above 700 dps. You'll kill stuff so fast you won't even need to tank. If you're feeling weak, get a set of low grade crystals and you'll tank anything. At present, my booster reps 1050 shield every 4 seconds. Or 1200-ish something every 3.4 seconds. Sorry if I sound harsch, but that fit of yours really isn't optimal in any way. I've only once needed to bail out with this fit, and that was during a full stage aggro when I was having my attention elsewhere and didn't notice the catastrophy until at 40-50% armor. Even then I managed to tank the incoming dps, but it was just too much to tank it any longer time, and I couldn't kill enough BS to bring the DPS down in time. Other than such a scenario (where everything but a deadspace/officer tank will break), this fit is sleepmode thru missions. Balance is important, but you will always adapt to changing circumstances and you don't whine about stuff you can't change.
DNLeviathan Caldari Integrity.	Posted - 2008.09.06 18:06:00 - [122] Originally by: Ancy Denaries Edited by: Ancy Denaries on 06/09/2008 00:13:15 Originally by: Melvyn Ducharme Edited by: Melvyn Ducharme on 09/07/2008 21:08:45 http://img522.imageshack.us/my.php?image=ravennavyissuenewsetup1ny7.jpg Please tell me that you are a troll. Failfit 2000? This is more like it. While not permatanked, it's more than +50% dps step up from your fit, and that's WITHOUT drones, mind you. Add another 124 DPS for the drones (with my skills). Sure, it ain't cheap, but damn yours ain't either. If you overload the shieldbooster you get a peak DPS tanked of over 1200 incoming dps. Enough to replenish the shield even in the gravest situations. And yes, I face mostly Sanshas. (haven't bothered changing missiles to Paradise in EFT). Get a few hardwirings in there and you're way above 700 dps. You'll kill stuff so fast you won't even need to tank. If you're feeling weak, get a set of low grade crystals and you'll tank anything. At present, my booster reps 1050 shield every 4 seconds. Or 1200-ish something every 3.4 seconds. Sorry if I sound harsch, but that fit of yours really isn't optimal in any way. I've only once needed to bail out with this fit, and that was during a full stage aggro when I was having my attention elsewhere and didn't notice the catastrophy until at 40-50% armor. Even then I managed to tank the incoming dps, but it was just too much to tank it any longer time, and I couldn't kill enough BS to bring the DPS down in time. Other than such a scenario (where everything but a deadspace/officer tank will break), this fit is sleepmode thru missions. fail fit +2 mate, im sorry about that but wtf? 2 ****ing Booster amps? well done mate, way to lower your resists fully, you DONT need all that boost, for no reason mate. just no, you'll tank more, with higher resists Obviously. yes, i notice its called "Burst tank" whats the point of having a Faction ship, if your not gunna spend Cash to Faction fit it ? waste of money, sell it, and buy a normal raven tbh. Sometimes all you need to do is look past the Screen.
Hakaryu Lionheart	Posted - 2008.09.06 20:23:00 - [123] Ok here goes braces for impact This is what I am fitting to permatank - according to EFT nothing else works with what I have: Hi: 7Cruises and a drone link aug Meds: 4 t2 hardeners, x-large booster, Boost amplifier Lows: 4 t2 Cap Power Relays, BCS II 3-CCCs in the Rig slots This crazy? Seems to work and I have not had any issues so far.
Kadoes Khan	Posted - 2008.09.06 21:07:00 - [124] Edited by: Kadoes Khan on 06/09/2008 21:07:24 My CNR fit for missions Modify hardeners to fit missions, you have a free mid slot with a lot of room to stick something in there so if you want a NOS or drone link(like a remote armor rep to heal drones) you can throw those in. If you can't afford the ~1.5B for a gist booster grab a CN one. I don't like the C and B type boosters as they are really only helpful if you are trying to perma tank which is frankly a waste in missions. I carry a flight of light drones to take care of some smaller things(they knock them out faster than a med will). My character in EFT has no implants on either so if you use crystals or toss on +cruise damage stuff you can greatly improve the setup(I'm actually running +5 implants and some other useless hardwirings cause I'm to lazy to buy good stuff ^_^). -=^=- "Someday the world will recognize the genius in my insanity."
LordThyGod	Posted - 2008.09.07 03:36:00 - [125] [Raven Navy Issue, New Setup 1] Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System Capacitor Power Relay II Internal Force Field Array I Shield Boost Amplifier II Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Caldari Navy Invulnerability Field Gist A-Type X-Large Shield Booster Cap Recharger II Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Caldari Navy Siege Missile Launcher, Caldari Navy Mjolnir Torpedo Small Tractor Beam I Capacitor Control Circuit II Capacitor Control Circuit I Capacitor Control Circuit I Valkyrie II x5 if your gonna spend the isk on some of the faction fittings, finish it off, its not "that" much more expensive if you dont go nutz
Dragon Lord Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2008.09.07 11:08:00 - [126] As this a pvp setup the above setup would fail as you couldnt hit anything orbiting outside 30kms and thats with max skills and implants, might get just past 30kms with implants. So although you would have awsome dps with that setup you would take forever in pve chasing down npcs, you need at least an AB on that fit for it to work. Torps for pve mean missle range and flight time rigs and t2 launchers, and since that screws ur cap u will need a cap injector with 400 or 800s in your setup. However with max skills this setup will fire javs past 70kms.
mkd0815	Posted - 2008.09.08 08:36:00 - [127] am i the only one who likes his Passiv Tank Navy Raven ? Low 3x CN BCU 2x Beta SPR Mid 3x Large Extender II 1x CN Invu 2x Rat Spec Hardender High 7x CN Cruise 1x Dronelink Aug ( = 60 Km Drone range with my skills ) i Tank ~ 600 DPS and Deliver also ~ 600 DPS and i am a relativ new pilot with ~10M SP and nearly no maxed out skills. with Higher skills it will get a lot better and i have totally no probs with level4 missions and its a really nice bonus to have 25000 Shield if someone wants to Suicide Gank you.
Carniflex Caldari StarHunt Fallout Project	Posted - 2008.09.08 08:45:00 - [128] Originally by: mkd0815 am i the only one who likes his Passiv Tank Navy Raven ? Quite likely minority, as active tanked setups work better on CNR. Better in this case meaning having both better peak tank and faster mission completion speed. Ofc I lack any hard data, but I would say that even cap injector fueled 'gank' fits are more common on CNR than passive tank ones.
mkd0815	Posted - 2008.09.08 13:14:00 - [129] Originally by: Carniflex Originally by: mkd0815 am i the only one who likes his Passiv Tank Navy Raven ? Quite likely minority, as active tanked setups work better on CNR. Better in this case meaning having both better peak tank and faster mission completion speed. Ofc I lack any hard data, but I would say that even cap injector fueled 'gank' fits are more common on CNR than passive tank ones. in a few month i will likely change to a active tank too ... because then i have the skills and money to make it work as good as a passive one in missions. but for starters ( who most likely flew some month in his drake ) passiv is a lot cheaper and more powerful. to run an active setup i would even need one more low slot for my tank and so loose one BCS. and that means i loose ~10% damage.
Heanna	Posted - 2008.09.14 16:48:00 - [130] Should I be using a CN XL Shield Booster or a T2 XL Shield Booster? What are the differences, the duration is different but what does this mean in reality? Rest of setup High: Arb cruise launchers + drone link Mids: CN SBA, t2 cap recharger, 3x t2 shield hardeners Lows: 2x t2 PDS, 3x t2 BCS, Rigs: 3x CCC Thanks for your help
Epidemis	Posted - 2008.09.14 19:03:00 - [131] Normal cruise missile: 225m explosion radius Jav torp: 350m * 2/3 (TP with marau bonus, alittle more actually, so it's around the same) = 231m effective explosion radius Rough estimate is jav torp doing around 33% more dmg than cruise, with the only drawback being the maximum of 67km range on them.
Elhina Novae Destruction Reborn CORPVS DELICTI	Posted - 2008.09.14 19:26:00 - [132] Edited by: Elhina Novae on 14/09/2008 19:28:50 Edited by: Elhina Novae on 14/09/2008 19:27:53 Note that my skills is far from optimal with this setup (Shield compensation another level too 100% permarun lol). I have considered a Dual Pith B-Type Small Shield Booster setup too free up another low for a 4th Ballistic Control System, and remove a CCC for a Anti-EM Screen. http://img379.imageshack.us/my.php?image=namnlswh9.jpg EDIT: Also as I run missions against Blood Raiders, I think I will use the 8th high-slot for a Heavy Nosferatu ------------ Originally by: Boz Well Originally by: SurrenderMonkey ... There's an Amarr problem? Nothing that can't be solved by more Minmatar nerfs.
Kzintee Caldari Perkone	Posted - 2008.09.14 21:07:00 - [133] I like passive tanks, so here's my setup. Hi: 7x launchers 1x drone link or tractor beam Mid: 2x primary hardener 2x sec hardener 2x LSE Low: 3x BCU 2x SPR Rig: 3x Purger Alternative: Mid: 2x primary hardener 2x secondary hardener 1x LSE 1x XLSB Low: 3x BCU 0-2 SPR 2-0 PDU This tank holds in EA5 perfectly fine.
Kenji Kikuta	Posted - 2008.09.15 07:05:00 - [134] Hi! Recently I completed my virgin trip (level 4 mission) in a Raven and was quite pleased with the result, even though I still can't fit tech 2 weapons on it. So, my next step would be to buy and fit a Navy Raven (in a near future). Up to now I have been piloting an active shielded Nighthawk fitted with 4 bcus and missile velocity rigs to maximize missile range and dps using fury ammo. Hence, I'm contemplating a similar setup for the NRaven. This is what I have in mind. HI: 7x cruise launcher T2 (fury ammo), 1x drone link ME: 1x XL shield booster t2, 1x boost amp t2, 1x heavy cap booster t2, 3x navy shield hardeners LO: 4x navy bcu, 1xco-processor T2 RI: 1(or2)x hydraulic bay thrusters, 1(or2)x warhead rigor catalyst Suggestions on how I might improve the setup are most welcome. Please, no permament shield setups.
SOLAR stone Gallente Hematite Rose Bionic Dawn	Posted - 2008.09.15 09:00:00 - [135] Edited by: SOLAR stone on 15/09/2008 09:03:30 Try this one: Low: 2x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System 2x PDU II 1x Damage Control II Med: Gist A-type XL Shield Booster 2x Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier 1x Cap Recharger 2x Dread Guristas Invulnerability Field High: 7x Caldari Navy Cruise Missile Launchers 1x Large True Sansha Smart Bomb Drone Bay: 3 x Org II 3 x CCC

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