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Vincintius Agrippa
F L O O D
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Posted - 2014.09.01 03:16:00 -
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I was away all summer and my pc was broke. From what I can gather, I think most people have set up galmil alts to take advantage of the tiers and haul in the isk. Some major guys left and went pirate, others joined test when they were in fw and left with them.
Why? well, from what ive experienced it is quite difficult to offensively solo plex after the changes. Npc navy spawn repeatedly until plex is captured. Id like to say every 60-90seconds. Their dps is irrelevant, but their repping draws the plex out. For a novice atleast, It takes about 60 or more seconds to kill these rats. Having 6 or 7 and more of these guys pop up adds another 6 or 7 minutes to a 10 minute plex. Its really not worthwhile for a few thousand LP. The problem only gets worse when you go up in plex sizes. No one even bothers with Large plexes. Every system I passed last night had about 5 or more Larges that hadnt been opened. Mediums are tricky as well. It takes too long to kill npc's and they spawn entirely to much. I had 10 thoraxes spawn in my plex......
Alot of these guy stack lp and buy ships and modules. They couldnt do it anymore. The way things are set up the gallente are in perfect position. Already having 65-70 of 100 systems in their possession at the time of the change the tiered system served them better.
The gallente dont even half to defend plexes most of the time. At t4 they can deplex at a profitable rate, however they just run missions. I plexed though 6 systems last night and the gallente paid me no mind. Every Time I thought someone would attack, A mission beacon would pop up and disappear. Local would go from me and a war target, to just me.
The Lp payout from lvl mission enables the gallente to make around 60-80k lp (if im not mistaken) and donate a portion to keep them in t4. Thus, the cycle resumes. MOre people create galmil alts. Less people plex gal systems. I honestly think they do it 24/7 because a lot of the corps killboards have been cold for almost 2 months now. Hardly any fleets........ Only YOU can prevent internet bullying! |

Vincintius Agrippa
F L O O D
57
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Posted - 2014.09.01 03:27:00 -
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I dont really know of anyone who completely left calmil for gallente. Except for Borg maybe. We got tired of Khan Farshatok and his Napoleon/Vladimir Putin/Joseph Stalin/******/The Godfather/Anne Hathaway complex.
He's a turd and you can keep him and his minions. Only YOU can prevent internet bullying! |

Samwise Everquest
Because ISK
85
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Posted - 2014.09.01 03:41:00 -
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Vincintius Agrippa wrote:I dont really know of anyone who completely left calmil for gallente. Except for Borg maybe. We got tired of Khan Farshatok and his Napoleon/Vladimir Putin/Joseph Stalin/******/The Godfather/Anne Hathaway complex.
He's a turd and you can keep him and his minions.
why do you need those shades tho? |

X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2505
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Posted - 2014.09.01 03:46:00 -
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Vincintius Agrippa wrote:I dont really know of anyone who completely left calmil for gallente. Except for Borg maybe. We got tired of Khan Farshatok and his Napoleon/Vladimir Putin/Joseph Stalin/******/The Godfather/Anne Hathaway complex.
He's a turd and you can keep him and his minions. Khan was actually pretty cool when he was in Gallente. Total a**hole when he was Caldari.  |

Mabego Tetrimon
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
25
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Posted - 2014.09.01 12:50:00 -
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yei, victory, VICTORY
take it squids....take it
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Squatdog
State Protectorate Caldari State
143
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Posted - 2014.09.02 01:13:00 -
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Mabego Tetrimon wrote:yei, victory, VICTORY
take it squids....take it
We just retook two systems despite being relentlessly blobbed, is that what you mean?
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Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1112
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Posted - 2014.09.02 02:03:00 -
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When we come there we take your homes. Perhaps it would be a good idea not giving us a reason to take your home again.
We have allowed you to take a couple of systems back and you show no gratitude? |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
377
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Posted - 2014.09.02 02:20:00 -
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There like Nature Reserves for the endangered species that is cal mil,
Gallente have donated these systems to the cause of stopping them being hunted to extinction
You too can help the cause donate 300m isk now to help feed and home such a cute and defenseless creature GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Squatdog
State Protectorate Caldari State
143
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Posted - 2014.09.02 04:07:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:When we come there we take your homes. Perhaps it would be a good idea not giving us a reason to take your home again.
Then you lose the systems in a matter of days because Gallente can't blob everywhere at once...and as we all know, if Gallente can't blob, they can't fight.
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Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2014.09.02 06:46:00 -
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Squatdog wrote:
Then you lose the systems in a matter of days because Gallente can't blob everywhere at once...and as we all know, if Gallente can't blob, they can't fight.
QFT
http://imgur.com/AcFK9AD
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2506
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Posted - 2014.09.02 06:58:00 -
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Squatdog wrote:Then you lose the systems in a matter of days because Gallente can't blob everywhere at once...and as we all know, if Gallente can't blob, they can't fight.
If that's true, why didn't you try it BEFORE we took all the systems?
Possible Reasons: 1. Lack of competitive spirit. 2. Enjoy giving up the entire warzone. 3. Wait for Gallente to achieve goal so they don't try as hard. |

Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2014.09.02 07:22:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Squatdog wrote:Then you lose the systems in a matter of days because Gallente can't blob everywhere at once...and as we all know, if Gallente can't blob, they can't fight.
If that's true, why didn't you try it BEFORE we took all the systems? Possible Reasons: 1. Lack of competitive spirit. 2. Enjoy giving up the entire warzone. 3. Wait for Gallente to achieve goal so they don't try as hard.
Stop blaming Caldari for your current situation XGal - you put yourselves in this position, now you need to dig yourselves back out of it again.  |

Super Chair
Project Cerberus Templis CALSF
658
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Posted - 2014.09.02 08:39:00 -
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A detailed account of the last few weeks
Right now while FW sov can generate content it boils down to which side is willing to sit at their computer 16 hours a day, fights or no fights. Sometimes if no one is willing to fight you, you have to do a little work to get said fights (such as the small group that pushed vlil because some screaming war eagles didn't want to fight us ) but if you call everyone everytime you want to take a system you shouldn't be surprised that people with smaller numbers or less time to invest just find it easier to just deny you guys content and take the system back at their convenience after the blob moves on. That's not to say calmil corps won't come out for a few fights, we're just not going to go full neckbeard for weeks on end.
You guys are really good at blobbing systems though, congrats. You're starting to play FW a lot like some people play null, so I honestly don't blame corporations like QCATS for wanting to leave FW with a distaste for the way FW has been going since they cannot just log in and go a couple jumps for pew pew like the "good ole days".
This doesn't mean cal mil is going to go anywhere though and you should realize that by now. FW mechanics still require you to spread out instead of show up for a reinforcement timer with hundreds of dudes like it is in null if you want to hold everything. Maybe you guys should just declare the entire warzone a fortress and stock ships in every system  |

ALUCARD 1208
Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly
378
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Posted - 2014.09.02 09:28:00 -
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i for one welcome our new pizza overlords had fun fighting them last night and even outnumbered buy 4-5 people still came bk a few times, there was a bit of shittalk in local but also some serious stuff and links to each other for future fights forged between fcs.
Dont think these guys are gunna be shitlords like test and evoke and actually do have skills GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á |

Irya Boone
Never Surrender.
379
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Posted - 2014.09.02 10:14:00 -
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Yep because Only 30 People in galmil stay logged evry day during 16+ hours straight to take systems .... ? i know can't cure your retardation but ...
During all the Plexes fleets only 2 or 3 people stayed more than 5 hours plexing , we got 5 or more different FC in a day, except Sundays .. Even if it's a Game , you can play it seriously ( as chess). Are you sure only Galmil has teenagers living in their grandma basement?
Quote:Then you lose the systems in a matter of days because Gallente can't blob everywhere at once...and as we all know, if Gallente can't blob, they can't fight.
Just LOL , remind me which systems we lost? hysera and heyd .. 2 systems of UCF/REVO/old man gang and all the Russians pirates of lowsec , did'nt see many calmil in the area when the fell and i don't think calmil has something to do with this sov swap.
But anyway we were right about taking the WZ because if i believe what you are saying .. calmil is back on track  CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and to Put Them on Killmail TOO, same for Logi....Open that damn door !! |

GavinGoodrich
The Great Harmon Institute Of Technology Enemy Spotted.
74
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Posted - 2014.09.02 10:58:00 -
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Long live the war. Haaaaaalp my head's on fire |

Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
311
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Posted - 2014.09.02 13:05:00 -
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Now we need the Caldari to try and take the entire warzone. BLFOX is currently recruiting |

Alexander Eisenhower
Gallente Rebels Inc. Villore Accords
34
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Posted - 2014.09.02 13:29:00 -
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Degnar Oskold wrote:Pushing Calmil out will mean that us in GalMil will be free for the true objective.... claiming Nullsec systems FOR THE FEDERATION!
Wait.....what??? |

Silverbackyererse
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
81
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Posted - 2014.09.02 13:30:00 -
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Super Chair wrote:
Rational stuff.
Stop that right now Superchair. You'll get this thread locked for content. |

Moglarr
Caldari Colonial Defense Ministry Templis CALSF
14
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Posted - 2014.09.02 13:49:00 -
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There seems to be a reoccurring theme that one side owes the other "good fights" and "content". I would disagree with that opinion. I do not owe the Gallente militia pilots anything, except the mutual understanding that I will try to make them become dead, and they will do the same to me. Can that lead to interesting interactions and combat? Yes. Can that lead to tactics being employed that people would scoff at? Also yes, and I think it should be up to their peers to condemn the actions if they do not agree with them. When it came to the various system invasions, the goal of the Gallente was not "for the good and honourable fights" but for total system control. Anyone who says otherwise is dumb, and lacks situational awareness. Or perhaps my perception is wrong, I logged in to find fleets outnumbering my side, my comrades reported similar things. The Gallente deployed in high enough constant numbers that their enemy was not motivated to engage them, that was part of the objective. Did I like the tactic? Obviously not, I was on the receiving end. Would I use that tactic? Absolutely. That is how you take a system, as I see it. You deploy overwhelming force until the iHub is vulnerable. The downside to it is that it isn't fun, it makes logging in for both sides boring because nothing is happening.
Honestly, I don't know how your pilots didn't go insane just spinning buttons all day. Congratulations on keeping them logged on long enough for that because I have found, during my search for a home that I loath plexing. Good company only makes it bearable.
Super Chair wrote:A detailed account of the last few weeksRight now while FW sov can generate content it boils down to which side is willing to sit at their computer 16 hours a day, fights or no fights. Sometimes if no one is willing to fight you, you have to do a little work to get said fights (such as the small group that pushed vlil because some screaming war eagles didn't want to fight us  ) but if you call everyone everytime you want to take a system you shouldn't be surprised that people with smaller numbers or less time to invest just find it easier to just deny you guys content and take the system back at their convenience after the blob moves on. That's not to say calmil corps won't come out for a few fights, we're just not going to go full neckbeard for weeks on end. You guys are really good at blobbing systems though, congrats. You're starting to play FW a lot like some people play null, so I honestly don't blame corporations like QCATS for wanting to leave FW with a distaste for the way FW has been going since they cannot just log in and go a couple jumps for pew pew like the "good ole days". This doesn't mean cal mil is going to go anywhere though and you should realize that by now. FW mechanics still require you to spread out instead of show up for a reinforcement timer with hundreds of dudes like it is in null if you want to hold everything. Maybe you guys should just declare the entire warzone a fortress and stock ships in every system 
Quoted for truth. |
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X Gallentius
Justified Chaos
2508
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Posted - 2014.09.02 14:11:00 -
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Don't know what the fuss is all about. Most of the time, taking a home system generates a ton of content (Okkamon, Pav/Kinakka, Asakai), and sometimes it doesn't (Heyd, Ladistier). Whatever. We were in "Take Warzone Beast Mode" and accept that one of the consequences was no fights at the end.
The only thing lolworthy here is Squatdog's assessment only because he was spot on in his analysis. The way to beat the blob is to spread out and force fights in many places. The Amarr did this exact thing to the Minmatar when they were down to just Sahtogas and it worked for them. Caldari could have potentially royally griefed us Gallente militia neckbeards if they had employed this strategy BEFORE all the systems were taken. Maybe we would have adjusted, maybe we wouldn't have - we'll never know.
Whatever. Good to see you back. Never thought you'd leave.
I think it's time to add "We didn't want to maintain total warzone control anyways" 
Edit: Also, you guys still have us in total time warzone controlled with a score of about 180 days to 4.  |

Squatdog
State Protectorate Caldari State
145
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:31:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Squatdog wrote:Then you lose the systems in a matter of days because Gallente can't blob everywhere at once...and as we all know, if Gallente can't blob, they can't fight.
If that's true, why didn't you try it BEFORE we took all the systems? Possible Reasons: 1. Lack of competitive spirit. 2. Enjoy giving up the entire warzone. 3. Wait for Gallente to achieve goal so they don't try as hard.
4. The teeming hordes of stabbed, cloaky farming alts who 'defend' the contested Gal systems for free LP once they get over 30%.
But you already knew that.
Quote:Just LOL , remind me which systems we lost? hysera and heyd .. 2 systems of UCF/REVO/old man gang and all the Russians pirates of lowsec , did'nt see many calmil in the area when the fell and i don't think calmil has something to do with this sov swap..
Probably because Gallente were blobbing with fleets of 50+ after spending hours running from even fights.
There was a Gallente blob of 17+ attempting to prevent Heyd and Hysera from being flipped, but it got completely slaughtered because they didn't have the magical 2 to 1 odds Gallente need to win at PVP. |

Thanatos Marathon
Black Fox Marauders Repeat 0ffenders
311
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:33:00 -
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Looks like we got lucky and a nullsec group already joined caldari and are trying to revive them. Hopefully they can cap 20-50 systems quickly and revive some of the other Caldari. BLFOX is currently recruiting |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
811
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:40:00 -
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X Gallentius wrote:Don't know what the fuss is all about. Most of the time, taking a home system generates a ton of content (Okkamon, Pav/Kinakka, Asakai), and sometimes it doesn't (Heyd, Ladistier). Whatever. We were in "Take Warzone Beast Mode" and accept that one of the consequences was no fights at the end. The only thing lolworthy here is Squatdog's assessment only because he was spot on in his analysis. The way to beat the blob is to spread out and force fights in many places. The Amarr did this exact thing to the Minmatar when they were down to just Sahtogas and it worked for them. Caldari could have potentially royally griefed us Gallente militia neckbeards if they had employed this strategy BEFORE all the systems were taken. Maybe we would have adjusted, maybe we wouldn't have - we'll never know. Whatever. Good to see you back. Never thought you'd leave. I think it's time to add "We didn't want to maintain total warzone control anyways"  Edit: Also, you guys still have us in total time warzone controlled with a score of about 180 days to 4. 
Thing is simple, it is not profitable to plex on tier 1 anymore, so no one does it , game mechanics is broken just like it was last time gallente took all systems. |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1112
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Posted - 2014.09.02 16:59:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Thing is simple, it is not profitable to plex on tier 1 anymore, so no one does it , game mechanics is broken just like it was last time gallente took all systems.
But they were fine when you guys held the warzone. Im beginning to notice a pattern! |

Arla Sarain
73
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:01:00 -
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I heard
Gallente next 36h Tama Something Something
Confirm? |

Deacon Abox
Justified Chaos
377
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:16:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote: Thing is simple, it is not profitable to plex on tier 1 anymore, so no one does it , game mechanics is broken just like it was last time gallente took all systems. Whereas it wasn't way back when you took the warzone? 
To be serious with you BM, we all agree that the lp system is ******. And we've been saying so. But it wasn't lp farmers that plexed your home systems and flipped the bunkers.
Anyway, love the tears of those others that complain about gallente "blobs". Love the claims of "200 Gallente in local" (obviously someone who's overview is so ****** up he can't differentiate between neutrals and Galmil but only sees those that aren't blue or purple to him ). Love to see ole' Squat Dog back and posting.
As was just said above, don't worry, you'll have a nullsec alliance join you soon. Eventually your Navy Raven farming hordes will be back and all will be well. CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, please give us a persisting-áoff button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals. |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
811
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:32:00 -
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Deacon Abox wrote:Bad Messenger wrote: Thing is simple, it is not profitable to plex on tier 1 anymore, so no one does it , game mechanics is broken just like it was last time gallente took all systems. Whereas it wasn't way back when you took the warzone?  To be serious with you BM, we all agree that the lp system is ******. And we've been saying so. But it wasn't lp farmers that plexed your home systems and flipped the bunkers. Anyway, love the tears of those others that complain about gallente "blobs". Love the claims of "200 Gallente in local" (obviously someone who's overview is so ****** up he can't differentiate between neutrals and Galmil but only sees those that aren't blue or purple to him  ). Love to see ole' Squat Dog back and posting. As was just said above, don't worry, you'll have a nullsec alliance join you soon. Eventually your Navy Raven farming hordes will be back and all will be well. 
Back when Caldari took all systems there was no isk/lp reward at all, so making isk was not driving everyone to join one side and farm easy money :).
I bet there is no single Caldari who is mad about losing system for their own farming alts, but thing that even everyone is happy with current easy isk with tier 4 for ever system, it is not still working as game mechanics CCP inteded it to be. |

Bad Messenger
Nasranite Watch
811
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Posted - 2014.09.02 17:40:00 -
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Crosi Wesdo wrote:Bad Messenger wrote:Thing is simple, it is not profitable to plex on tier 1 anymore, so no one does it , game mechanics is broken just like it was last time gallente took all systems. But they were fine when you guys held the warzone. Im beginning to notice a pattern! As for squatdog, i imagine he is just trolling. He wasnt even there for any of the systems that put up a defence. All he did was sit in Ladister for the 13 day campaign keeping it stable as though that was going to stop us. Okkamon took us nearly a week to capture, numerical superiority swung from fairly even in EU tz, though they often stayed docked due to lack of FC, sometimes we would sit there plexing with 20-25 people in local as they logged in. They would be sat with equal numbers for sometimes 2 hours before making a move. Twice during Okkamon siege there were over 100 squids in 3 separate fleets during US tz compared to our 40-60 number. But ultimately their procrastination in the EU, lack of AU tz and inconsistent US tz cost them the system.
CCP designed FW on way that isk keeps it flip flopping, but then they nerfed farmers on tier1, so best is to farm on one side with high tier.
If you can do easily bigger plexes you can sure do lvl4 fw missions too , so why to plex with tier1 when you can do missions with tier4. |

Crosi Wesdo
War and Order Repeat 0ffenders
1113
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Posted - 2014.09.02 18:21:00 -
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Bad Messenger wrote:Deacon Abox wrote:Bad Messenger wrote: Thing is simple, it is not profitable to plex on tier 1 anymore, so no one does it , game mechanics is broken just like it was last time gallente took all systems. Whereas it wasn't way back when you took the warzone?  To be serious with you BM, we all agree that the lp system is ******. And we've been saying so. But it wasn't lp farmers that plexed your home systems and flipped the bunkers. Anyway, love the tears of those others that complain about gallente "blobs". Love the claims of "200 Gallente in local" (obviously someone who's overview is so ****** up he can't differentiate between neutrals and Galmil but only sees those that aren't blue or purple to him  ). Love to see ole' Squat Dog back and posting. As was just said above, don't worry, you'll have a nullsec alliance join you soon. Eventually your Navy Raven farming hordes will be back and all will be well.  Back when Caldari took all systems there was no isk/lp reward at all, so making isk was not driving everyone to join one side and farm easy money :). I bet there is no single Caldari who is mad about losing system for their own farming alts, but thing that even everyone is happy with current easy isk with tier 4 for ever system, it is not still working as game mechanics CCP inteded it to be.
So if isk is the driving factor then the mechanic is broken? When will-power and bragging rights are the driving factor the mechanics are sound? No matter how utterly skewed and biased the mechanics actually were?
Well, by that standard we still win. We were at tier 4 before the push, and were at tier 4 now. People didnt earn a great deal of LP in this push. So its pretty clear that our motivation here was the same as your motivation back then. To win, not make isk.
Since the specific mechanics dont matter (by your standards) when judging if mechanics are broken, and all that matters is that occupancy is driven by the will to win and not isk, its pretty clear that our victory is every bit as valid as yours. Well, tbh a lot more valid since more than 20 people dominating the after downtime spawn can play now :) |
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