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Cearain Goose Swarm Coalition 1356	Posted - 2014.09.06 17:28:00 - [241] - Quote Crosi Wesdo wrote: Cearain wrote: X Gallentius wrote: Cearain wrote: Try your best to actually win occupancy for about a year and then come back and tell me about the rich strategy of the game. We've done it twice and I've tried to tell you all about it but you won't listen. I listened. Your alt captured over 100 plexes in 2 weeks. Your main didn't even have that many vp during that week. Why have a dog and wag your own tail? If people allow these toothless alts to operate, they clearly dont care enough about the area.... I'm not interested in chasing alts that will just hide in a neighboring system. If that's your thing then your playing the right game. CCP has ignored the core issue with plexing for so long, that the main fw players are now defending alt plexing for the win. Everyone else has walked away from the game. One thing we do agree on is that very few people care about winning the occupancy war. Keep spending your time logging in alts and orbitting buttons, if that is fun for you. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
ALUCARD 1208 Spiritus Draconis Drunk 'n' Disorderly 379	Posted - 2014.09.06 17:40:00 - [242] - Quote Cearain wrote: IF UR NOT PLAYING THE GAME HOW I THINK IT SHOULD BE PLAYED UR DOING IT WRONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Fixed that for ya GÖÑ HIGH FIVES GÖÑ-á
X Gallentius Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop 2513	Posted - 2014.09.06 18:55:00 - [243] - Quote Cearain wrote: X Gallentius wrote: Cearain wrote: Try your best to actually win occupancy for about a year and then come back and tell me about the rich strategy of the game. We've done it twice and I've tried to tell you all about it but you won't listen. I listened. Your alt captured over 100 plexes in 2 weeks. Your main didn't even have that many vp during that week. That's execution of tactics, not the rich strategy part.
Fenris Orion Rapid Withdrawal 11	Posted - 2014.09.06 19:12:00 - [244] - Quote Cearain wrote: Try your best to actually win occupancy for about a year and then come back and tell me about the rich strategy of the game I have done exactly that for over a year and a half now, and I can tell you that you and your crybaby cohorts are utterly clueless. I have helped and at times lead the charge to take and defend systems up and down the eastern front of the Gallente/Caldari war zone. It's what FW is all about, farming alts spending all their time in quite systems are annoying at best, and a completely side-bar subject in terms of FW game content. Either go somewhere else to cry, or bring yourself to Tama and show us how superior your skills are.... We'll add you to our killboards like everyone else.
Fenris Orion Rapid Withdrawal 11	Posted - 2014.09.06 19:19:00 - [245] - Quote Yang Aurilen wrote: Fenris Orion wrote: Dear god, so much crying and foolishness in this thread. Taking and especially keeping control of systems is of chief importance to people actively engaged in FW (non-farming-alts). Why!? Because all of our stuff is in stations, and if we loose control of the system we can't use those stations. Ergo: taking and keeping systems is a major effort and generates fantastic PVP opportunities in strategically important systems. If you missed this concept somewhere along the way, do us all a favor, and go play WOW or something. I wonder how many CalMil have ships and gear locked up in stations all across the war zone right now... I have a bunch of loot locked up in Tama right now myself, and put up quite a fight trying to disrupt the iHub bash for it. Hilarious fun, btw, killed an Oracle with my Astero before anyone could get to me. Glad to have active targets again. Bring on the Squid Pasta! Zero. Black frog and alts exists for a reason. Heck I still have my missioning bomber in innia because I'm too lazy to actually contract it to an alt and fly it out. You missed the point. Control of stations situated in forward positions close to where the action is allows you to reship quickly to address whatever the enemy is fielding in the area (or when you loose fights, which is inevitable if you're actually playing the game). We made a push to take Rakapas, for example, to do exactly that. Next on the list was Okkamon, and the residents there put up a great fight. You can pay someone else to go get your stuff for you, or you can regroup to take it back yourself. Don't be a coward, come and get it.
Crosi Wesdo War and Order 1116	Posted - 2014.09.07 00:07:00 - [246] - Quote Cearain wrote: Crosi Wesdo wrote: Cearain wrote: X Gallentius wrote: Cearain wrote: Try your best to actually win occupancy for about a year and then come back and tell me about the rich strategy of the game. We've done it twice and I've tried to tell you all about it but you won't listen. I listened. Your alt captured over 100 plexes in 2 weeks. Your main didn't even have that many vp during that week. Why have a dog and wag your own tail? If people allow these toothless alts to operate, they clearly dont care enough about the area.... I'm not interested in chasing alts that will just hide in a neighboring system. If that's your thing then you're playing the right game. CCP has ignored the core issue with plexing for so long, that the main fw players are now defending alt plexing for the win. Everyone else has walked away from the game. One thing we do agree on is that very few people care about winning the occupancy war. Keep spending your time logging in alts and orbitting buttons, if that is fun for you. I dont agree with you on a single point you have made in the last 2 years. meanwhile, i have won FW twice, and you might have logged in to eve twice... Stop posting please because you are utterly ignorant, thats as polite as i can put it.
Atezasha State War Academy Caldari State 0	Posted - 2014.09.07 02:52:00 - [247] - Quote U got rekt
Silverbackyererse The Church of Awesome 82	Posted - 2014.09.07 05:55:00 - [248] - Quote Crosi Wesdo wrote: ........meanwhile, i have won FW twice......... . And we can all see those diamonds shining out your arse from 50km away.
Crosi Wesdo War and Order 1116	Posted - 2014.09.07 06:44:00 - [249] - Quote Silverbackyererse wrote: Crosi Wesdo wrote: ........meanwhile, i have won FW twice......... . And we can all see those diamonds shining out your arse from 50km away. So jelly.
IbanezLaney The Church of Awesome 1241	Posted - 2014.09.07 11:16:00 - [250] - Quote The once was a man from Enaluri Who played Dota2 with a fury He tried things in Null sec And it wasn't fun sec So he came back to FW laugh at really crap alliance names like Spaceship Bebop. Damn - my limerick doesn't rhyme. Docked since 2009.

Irya Boone Never Surrender. 381	Posted - 2014.09.07 13:38:00 - [251] - Quote How things going for the new leadership of calmil , i mean Pasta Did they spread new doctrines , new fleets comps , because since they're back calmil is rolling all over the place so i suppose the game mechanics are ok now ,right ? Anyway thank you Pasta for steping for your little brothers. CCP it's time to remove Off Grid Boost and to Put Them on Killmail TOO, same for Logi....Open that damn door !!
Deacon Abox Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop 380	Posted - 2014.09.07 13:42:00 - [252] - Quote Hey, I didn't choose this alliance name, but you gotta admit sometimes you feel like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vDU9FP5_B2M until you get blowed up CCP, there are off buttons for ship explosions, missile effects, turret effects, etc. "Immersion" does not seem to be harmed by those. So, please give us a persisting-áoff button for the jump gate and autoscan visuals.
Thanatos Marathon Black Fox Marauders Spaceship Bebop 315	Posted - 2014.09.07 13:56:00 - [253] - Quote Other times maybe you're just feeling a bit salty https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kOmA8LOw258 BLFOX is currently recruiting
X Gallentius Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop 2513	Posted - 2014.09.07 15:59:00 - [254] - Quote IbanezLaney wrote: So he came back to FW laugh at really crap alliance names like Spaceship Bebop. ..... Damn - my limerick doesn't rhyme. Couple things: 1. All you had to do was figure out how to use the word "hop" in your limerick. 2. It may or may not be a crap name, but it's OUR name. So frick off!
Terhiss Moira. Villore Accords 66	Posted - 2014.09.07 16:04:00 - [255] - Quote I endorse https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aw3fN3OPk3A
Theroine Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop 98	Posted - 2014.09.08 00:46:00 - [256] - Quote IbanezLaney wrote: The once was a man from Enaluri Who played Dota2 with a fury He tried things in Null sec And it wasn't fun sec So he came back to FW laugh at really crap alliance names like Spaceship Bebop. Damn - my limerick doesn't rhyme. Don't be so jelly fella, What's with the ennui, Run out of Nutella? Going caffeine free? If I must tell ya, Your forum fu of late Is rather reprobate Step up to the plate or get left behind mate!
Cearain Goose Swarm Coalition 1357	Posted - 2014.09.08 02:08:00 - [257] - Quote Fenris Orion wrote: Cearain wrote: Try your best to actually win occupancy for about a year and then come back and tell me about the rich strategy of the game I have done exactly that for over a year and a half now, and I can tell you that you and your crybaby cohorts are utterly clueless. I have helped and at times lead the charge to take and defend systems up and down the eastern front of the Gallente/Caldari war zone. It's what FW is all about, farming alts spending all their time in quite systems are annoying at best, and a completely side-bar subject in terms of FW game content. Either go somewhere else to cry, or bring yourself to Tama and show us how superior your skills are.... We'll add you to our killboards like everyone else. You think alts are a sidebar. Meanwhile XG has his alt capturing over 100 plexes in 2 weeks and helping gallente capture all caldari systems. I'm not interested in arguing with the clueless. Have fun in your occupancy efforts, where you think the alts are just a sidebar. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
Yuri Antollare Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop 98	Posted - 2014.09.08 02:38:00 - [258] - Quote I like the summation of your argument there, it's exactly what it was 12 pages ago. You argue, wall of text and talk past almost everyone individually in Galmill for 13 pages, and your argument is verbatim what it was at the start... Thats an incredible amount of close mindedness and arrogance even for you.
Crosi Wesdo War and Order 1116	Posted - 2014.09.08 03:17:00 - [259] - Quote He doesnt care how much pvp people are getting, while people use alts to do things in eve, its broken lol. He does waver on his main arguments though. 2 main ones are, too little pvp, occupancy is driven mainly by alts. He will simply ignore that there is more pvp than ever over occupancy, and occupancy is less dominated by alts than it has been since inferno. This is why i think he is simply a troll. If not, he is so out of touch it serves no purpose reading his posts.
Super Chair Project Cerberus Templis CALSF 664	Posted - 2014.09.08 05:14:00 - [260] - Quote Crosi Wesdo wrote: He doesnt care how much pvp people are getting, while people use alts to do things in eve, its broken lol. He does waver on his main arguments though. 2 main ones are, too little pvp, occupancy is driven mainly by alts. He will simply ignore that there is more pvp than ever over occupancy, and occupancy is less dominated by alts than it has been since inferno. This is why i think he is simply a troll. If not, he is so out of touch it serves no purpose reading his posts. Who?

Crosi Wesdo War and Order 1116	Posted - 2014.09.08 05:18:00 - [261] - Quote Super Chair wrote: Who? That was my point really.
IbanezLaney The Church of Awesome 1242	Posted - 2014.09.08 06:38:00 - [262] - Quote Theroine wrote: IbanezLaney wrote: The once was a man from Enaluri Who played Dota2 with a fury He tried things in Null sec And it wasn't fun sec So he came back to FW laugh at really crap alliance names like Spaceship Bebop. Damn - my limerick doesn't rhyme. Don't be so jelly fella, What's with the ennui, Run out of Nutella? Going caffeine free? If I must tell ya, Your forum fu of late Is rather reprobate Step up to the plate or get left behind mate! I thought it would be stupendous to troll XGallentius I didnt mean harm So get back to your barn You alliance name is lame And I feel your pain You spent a billion isk So I could take the **** Docked since 2009.
Theroine Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop 100	Posted - 2014.09.08 09:11:00 - [263] - Quote IbanezLaney wrote: Theroine wrote: IbanezLaney wrote: The once was a man from Enaluri Who played Dota2 with a fury He tried things in Null sec And it wasn't fun sec So he came back to FW laugh at really crap alliance names like Spaceship Bebop. Damn - my limerick doesn't rhyme. Don't be so jelly fella, What's with the ennui, Run out of Nutella? Going caffeine free? If I must tell ya, Your forum fu of late Is rather reprobate Step up to the plate or get left behind mate! I thought it would be stupendous to troll XGallentius I didnt mean harm So get back to your barn You alliance name is lame And I feel your pain You spent a billion isk So I could take the **** While your retort in a couplet, shows W & T your inner frog, Alas you're not there yet W & T is not agog. Break out of your self-absorbed fog! If you want your prose to boil, best try a rhyme royal!
IbanezLaney The Church of Awesome 1244	Posted - 2014.09.08 11:10:00 - [264] - Quote Theroine wrote: IbanezLaney wrote: Theroine wrote: IbanezLaney wrote: The once was a man from Enaluri Who played Dota2 with a fury He tried things in Null sec And it wasn't fun sec So he came back to FW laugh at really crap alliance names like Spaceship Bebop. Damn - my limerick doesn't rhyme. Don't be so jelly fella, What's with the ennui, Run out of Nutella? Going caffeine free? If I must tell ya, Your forum fu of late Is rather reprobate Step up to the plate or get left behind mate! I thought it would be stupendous to troll XGallentius I didnt mean harm So get back to your barn You alliance name is lame And I feel your pain You spent a billion isk So I could take the **** While your retort in a couplet, shows W & T your inner frog, Alas you're not there yet W & T is not agog. Break out of your self-absorbed fog! If you want your prose to boil, best try a rhyme royal! The Gallente act all mean and bad But most just wish they knew their dads Their mothers were all easy wimminz Out on the town drinking and sinnin Lots of men and no protection Whos kid is whos is just for guessin DNA might give an answer But whats the point when hes on welfare Docked since 2009.
Yun Kuai Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop 186	Posted - 2014.09.08 12:33:00 - [265] - Quote IbanezLaney wrote: The once was a man from Enaluri Who played Dota2 with a fury He tried things in Null sec And it wasn't fun sec So he came back to FW laugh at really crap alliance names like Spaceship Bebop. Damn - my limerick doesn't rhyme. See I told them that name was bad. Damn it now no one is going to take us even remotely seriously --------------------------------------------------------::::::::::::--:::-----:::---::::::::::::--------------:::----------:::----:::---:::----------------------:::::::-------:::---:::----::::::-------------------:::-----------:::--:::----:::---------------------::::::::::::----:::::::----:::::::::::::-------
Cearain Goose Swarm Coalition 1357	Posted - 2014.09.08 15:55:00 - [266] - Quote Yuri Antollare wrote: I like the summation of your argument there, it's exactly what it was 12 pages ago. You argue, wall of text and talk past almost everyone individually in Galmill for 13 pages, and your argument is verbatim what it was at the start... Thats an incredible amount of close mindedness and arrogance even for you. The fact that XGs alt had over captured over 100 plexes in 2 weeks leading up to taking all caldari systems is pretty much a summation of faction war. I realize there are some in the galmilitia that don't like that fact. So you come on the forums and rage against me for bringing it up. If you mean argument as in bickering/namecalling yes there has been that. (see your post above you in no way address the fact regarding XGs alt, you just express your anger with me. ) This is pretty much the model: 1)Cearain posts a fact and some argument based on the fact. 2)Gallente players come in and shout "you're stubborn" or "you're opinion doesn't matter" Or "you're arrogant" or "you are just mad" or "you're a crybaby," or "go play wow" One guy says he doesn't have the attention span to finish a newspaper article, so there is no way he can handle my 5 paragraph response etc etc. This isn't really "argument" in the logical sense of the word. If you mean argument as in actually engaging the facts I raise there really hasn't been much. There has a been a little bit though. One galmilitia argued that vp and plexes are irrelevant to the occupancy war. But between his claims versus ccps dev blogs and my own eyes I will believe the latter. Do you think vp are irrelevant? Do you think the alts rabbit plexing everywhere are irrelevant to the occupancy war? I said if gallente had no rabbit plexing alts they would be lucky to be at tier 2. Do you disagree? You need the alt plexers to deal with the enemy alt plexers. That is how the game works. I don't blame anyone. I and many others just don't care for it. Crosi makes a completely different argument. He argues that it is fine that most plexes are captured with alts. He is entitled to his opinion. I just think paying for alts to rabbit plex is no fun. It's unclear that crosi and I even disagree about anything that actually happens in the game. We just disagree on whether playing the current game is worth a persons time or not. That's really a summation of the threads here. Make faction war occupancy pvp instead of pve https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=53815&#post53815
X Gallentius Justified Chaos Spaceship Bebop 2514	Posted - 2014.09.08 16:00:00 - [267] - Quote Cearain wrote: Do you think vp are irrelevant? Do you think the alts rabbit plexing everywhere are irrelevant to the occupancy war? I said if gallente had no rabbit plexing alts they would be lucky to be at tier 2. Do you disagree? I disagree. Your entire argument rests on "rabbit" plexing alts when in fact my alt stood her ground in every plex. Unfortunately she died 99% of the time because her ships were unfit. (1% of the time the guy raiding the plex loses point - pro pvp)
JAF Anders Quantum Cats Syndicate 312	Posted - 2014.09.08 16:23:00 - [268] - Quote Yun Kuai wrote: See I told them that name was bad. Damn it now no one is going to take us even remotely seriously It really is awful, though -- almost as bad as Samurai Pizza Cats. But hey, at least you didn't put any numbers in it. The pursuit of excellence and stabbed plexing alts.
Crosi Wesdo War and Order 1117	Posted - 2014.09.08 16:37:00 - [269] - Quote Cearain wrote: Crosi makes a completely different argument. He argues that it is fine that most plexes are captured with alts. He is entitled to his opinion. I just think paying for alts to rabbit plex is no fun. It's unclear that crosi and I even disagree about anything that actually happens in the game. We just disagree on whether playing the current game is worth a persons time or not. That's really a summation of the threads here. Not even close, ive siad dozens of times that in the current iteration, NO systems have been taken by evasion tactics. There is an advantage to alt defensive tactics which imo is not the end of the world since it ensures that systems only change hands if there is a concerted pvp push. Such a ppush attracts a pvp response. I know this is far too complicated for you to keep up with. Carry on misrepresenting what everyone else is saying though, wouldnt want you to accidentally listen to something and have your delusions shattered.
Princess Nexxala Quantum Cats Syndicate 772	Posted - 2014.09.08 17:24:00 - [270] - Quote FW scrubs lolz nom nom



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