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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:00:00 -
[151]
 Originally by: Ra Bec
WTF! So all but the Gallente Teir 3 has bonus useful in missions, I mean wtf is the point of the MWD bonus, its not a faction ship, and its COMPLETELY usless in DS where as the other 3 can use both bonuses, dont get me wrong, names rock and bonuses on all but the Gallente are sweet.
Yes, but you also have the Domi available to you. Next question.
Tux, pretty pretty please nerf the lock range on the Rokh. Range bonus still lets you use higher-damage ammo at the same range, and a lowish lock range will allow it to put out much higher amounts of damage at fairly long ranges (and thus be a great sniper) while not just escalating the already-stupid snipe-range arms war we're currently seeing.
WRT the Abaddon and people complaining about cap use: you have eight lows, you only really need three HS2s and CPRs don't have a stacking penalty. Go nuts.
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BoinKlasik
Eye of God
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:03:00 -
[152]
wait a ******* second....
base optimal on 425iis = 57km
57*1.5 (required sharpshooter 5) *2 (spike)*1.5 (bs5 rare, but useful in any case)
optimal of almost 214...
1 tracking comp 2 puts us to 245.8
yay mag field stabs! i guess.
*doh, I broke my edited sig :/* *cries*
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Joerd Toastius
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:03:00 -
[153]
Oh, and one other thing. I totally came up with "Hyperion" (well, I was first to think of the name in the ship name thread), so I demand a 0.1% royalty on every one sold. Thx :)
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Emperor D'Hoffryn
Low Grade Ore
HUZZAH FEDERATION
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:06:00 -
[154]
more of the same, only worse, for amarr. why is it so wrong to be a BS with some MEDS for crying out loud?
Originally by: Tuxford
Yes we don't play on our main accounts simply because you would lose all respect for us 
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:06:00 -
[155]
A heavy and slow AC(? - Can't imagine enough fitting place for artillery) boat with horrible tracking that needs 'inexpensive faction' modules (aka Gisti boost and ampli) that 'accidently' are used by the minority of the fielded battleships (aka Raven, Rokh) too.
Well, the stuff isn't finalised, but I'll be really surprised if the above wont happen.
Heavily tanking sniper with uber range ... 
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Johnny Bravo
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:06:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Gierling
We need DPS graphs, BADLY.
8 turrets obseletes the Tempest. Period. As much alpha at minnie BS 1 as a tempest with minnie bs 3. Make the Tempest the Alpha striker and have the maelstrom be the DPS. This one is only a turret slot away from Balance.
Alpha-stike: a whooping 6% better than the Tempest... for 2 less high-slots. Not something i would call a big shift advantage.
Compare it to Abbadon - ultra-high DPS boat with good alpha-strike and great HP(resistances). I couldnt believe it myself, but Abbadon do 50% MORE DAMAGE than Tempest or Maelstorm. 1.5 times. No kiddy. Say YAWR! for all-ammar fleets.
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Deakin Frost
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:06:00 -
[157]
Another point of contention: If the Hyperion has worse tracking than the Megathron, where's the point? The better cap is obviously a plus point, but you can fit around it on a Megathron. The bonus difference will be made up by the better tracking of the Megathron. I have no use for a battleship that misses more than the lesser version.
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Cilppiz
FinFleet
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:07:00 -
[158]
Pfft, oversized Cyclone 
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Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:08:00 -
[159]
Originally by: BoinKlasik
wait a ******* second....
base optimal on 425iis = 57km
57*1.5 (required sharpshooter 5) *2 (spike)*1.5 (bs5 rare, but useful in any case)
optimal of almost 214...
1 tracking comp 2 puts us to 245.8
yay warp core stabs! i guess.
Corrected. 
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Kyguard
LFC
3rd Front Alliance
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:10:00 -
[160]
Rokh is the new pwnmobile with the minmatar one very close.
Can't say I am happy with the Amarr one. Gallente one is fine though. 
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Hllaxiu
Shiva
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:12:00 -
[161]
Am I correct in saying that a tech 2 X-L Shield Booster with a HG Crystal set and a boost amp would be 1648 shield boosted/5sec?
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:19:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Hllaxiu
Originally by: BoinKlasik
wait a ******* second....
base optimal on 425iis = 57km
57*1.5 (required sharpshooter 5) *2 (spike)*1.5 (bs5 rare, but useful in any case)
optimal of almost 214...
1 tracking comp 2 puts us to 245.8
yay warp core stabs! i guess.
Corrected.
Sharpshooter is 5%/level, not 10%. Seems you've included that right though in the maths 
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Grimpak
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:19:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Hllaxiu
Am I correct in saying that a tech 2 X-L Shield Booster with a HG Crystal set and a boost amp would be 1648 shield boosted/5sec?
tux said the maelstorm will be the biggest shield tank, bar the capitals.
...add 2 amps there and go ZOMG
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Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari
What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Sarmaul
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:20:00 -
[164]
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Sarmaul
The Hyperblaster?
Will make me think of UT, and I hated that map.
I was actually thinking of the gun from Quake 2 ;)
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Sarmaul
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:21:00 -
[165]
Originally by: Admiral Pieg
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: zoturi
skill reqs are?
I forsee Battleship 3.
i hope battleship 5. i dont want everyone to fly one just yet 
suits me
/emote hugs his BS 5
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BlackHorizon
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:22:00 -
[166]
Seems like Amarr are going to get another uninspired and weak ship. The abaddon is now going to be the autocannon/artillery armor tank BS of choice. It's hardly better for fleet battles than the geddon
Seriously, wtf is now the point of the Apoc? Not that it had much point to begin with.
Oh, and the Rokh is now going to replace the Apoc has the mining BS of choice because it will have ooodles of CPU to fit mining upgrades in the lows.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:25:00 -
[167]
Theese new ships are the worst thing to ever happen to Eve.
The Rokh is such utter bullcrap, it just proves that Caldari get everything handed to them, not only do they get the best EW and the best ratter, now they also have the best fleetship in the game.
The devs in this game have really completly lost it, 8 rails with optimal bonus, so now if you're a Caldari noob you can compete and outperform with high skilled people of other races in every department. I think someone at CCP believes that game balance means that there should be an easy noobish way to compete with everyone else.
Oh yea, the Rokh isn't overpowered because it does less damage. Except it uses ammo with twice the damage to hit at the same range...
Abaadon? What the heck are you even thinking? "It can run a better tank then an apoc and put out more firepower then a Geddon, but it can't do both at the same time" What the hell is that even supposed to mean? Maybe someone at CCP didn't get the memo that a ship that is fitted for ganking cannot be fitted for tanking at the same time anyways and vice versa! So what does the Abbadon accomplish? Oh yea, it makes both other Amarr ships useless! (I mean, even more uesless, all other races are useless now that Caldari can do everything the best)
Hyperion, oh yea, we totally needed another blasterboat, every Gallente has been waiting for another ******* blasterboat, we just don't have enough of them. What is this stupid dribble about the Megathron being a better long range ship because it has more tracking and dronespace?! Newsflash, tracking doesn't do jack at range, and drones don't have any significant range. Right, it's all balanced because Hyperion has no lock range, hooray for lock range. I mean why add something that Gallente doesn't have, like an EW ship maybe when you can just as well add something that slightly one ups one of the two possiblilities to set up a well rounded combat ship.
Maelstrom? "It has 8 turrets. It doesn't outdamage the Tempest as the Tempest gets a rate of fire and a damage bonus but Maelstrom's 8 turrets do outdamage Tempest's 6 turrets." So that basicly means it does outdamage the Tempest unless the tempest uses two launchers? Well that's just swell, except nobody cares if the DPS is slightly higher on a ship that is all about burst damage when another ship can deliver more of that. So what do we do with our Tempests now? Throw on a bunch of launchers and autocanons - oh, wait, there is a ship like that, starts's with a T too, looks like a junksausage...
Theese new ships are horrible and should not be added to the game. They don't bring any better balance to the game, they don't fill any roles that the different races are missing to be well rounded and viable to use without Caldari support, and they make a lot of existing ships and setups obsolete in their roles.
This entire thing is an entirely stupid stunt to please the idiots who don't want something that's acctually new, but something that's better, regardless of wether it screws up the games balance. The only race that gets something new to their arsenal is Caldari, and now they are even more ridiculously overpowered then before, and have absoloutly nothing they can't do.
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:25:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Sarmaul
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Sarmaul
The Hyperblaster?
Will make me think of UT, and I hated that map.
I was actually thinking of the gun from Quake 2 ;)
I'd forgotten about that. I spent so much longer on UT
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Dupac
Corsets and Carebears
Whips and Chains
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:32:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Johnny Bravo
Edited by: Johnny Bravo on 25/07/2006 20:12:14
Originally by: Gierling
We need DPS graphs, BADLY.
8 turrets obseletes the Tempest. Period. As much alpha at minnie BS 1 as a tempest with minnie bs 3. Make the Tempest the Alpha striker and have the maelstrom be the DPS. This one is only a turret slot away from Balance.
Alpha-stike: a whooping 6% better than the Tempest... for 2 less high-slots. Not something i would call a big shift advantage.
Compare it to Abaddon - ultra-high DPS boat with good alpha-strike and great HP(resistances). I couldnt believe it myself, but Abaddon do 50% MORE DAMAGE than Tempest or Maelstorm. 1.5 times. No kiddy. Say YAWR! for all-ammar fleets.
Unfortunately it's em :(
Wow massive amarr fleet coming at us - What will we do - - - -
Zomg where are the EAN II's?????
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Kurren
Farscape Mining
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:33:00 -
[170]
Kudos on going for balance instead of uberness!! Right decision there! I like that the Mega and the Domi will not become obsolete.
Now... could you just make the Hyperion look as nice as the other three? PWETTY PWEASE?!
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:34:00 -
[171]
Noriath, I replied to the crosspost (with an alt) in ships and mods. Crossposting your replies does not make you cool.
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Dilskin
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:35:00 -
[172]
I see a bunch of gunboats that can use 7 or 8 guns.
Where is the missile boat (of any race) that can use
8 launchers?
Anyone?
Anyone?
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Sarmaul
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:37:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Dilskin
I see a bunch of gunboats that can use 7 or 8 guns.
Where is the missile boat (of any race) that can use
8 launchers?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Boo hoo? The 6 launcher BS is overpowered enough as it is, we really don't need an 8 launcher.
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Lorette
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:41:00 -
[174]
I knew it, i for one am not a happy camper...
Still only 1 gall BS worth using 
/waits for last hope (navy domi)
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infraX
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:42:00 -
[175]
Originally by: Kyguard
Rokh is the new pwnmobile with the minmatar one very close.
Can't say I am happy with the Amarr one. Gallente one is fine though.
You've obviously never flown a blasterthron then.
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Lorette
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:46:00 -
[176]
Anything that requires a MWD is no use to me
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:47:00 -
[177]
Originally by: Dilskin
I see a bunch of gunboats that can use 7 or 8 guns.
Where is the missile boat (of any race) that can use
8 launchers?
Anyone?
Anyone?
Bueller?
Linkage
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Noriath
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:49:00 -
[178]
Originally by: HippoKing
Noriath, I replied to the crosspost (with an alt) in ships and mods. Crossposting your replies does not make you cool.
Yea, I know, but I just realised that I had wasted my entire rant on a stupid topic in ships and mods when I really wanted to unload my frustration here were everyone can see how stupid I think theese new ships are. 
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Minsc
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:51:00 -
[179]
The only thing missing from that dev blog was screenies. We need to have a rule that all dev blogs containing stuff coming in kali should have a 2 screenshot MINIMUM!!!...eh, eh....no
Ah well worth a shot. 
Originally by: Sharkbait
please for the love of god read the dam stickies
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Nebuli
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:53:00 -
[180]
Someone please make me feel better about the gal tier 3, just not seeing how its not going to suck atm.
Think I need a hug
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