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Steini OFSI
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Posted - 2003.10.06 18:20:00 -
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Macros are bad, the EULA might be clearer, there will always be players who cheat. These are facts.
Some try to be honest and really do spend a whole weekend mining with eve in windowed mode and watching movies and in between do move the ore from it's cargo to a container (on 1-7 minutes basis) and switch roid when needed. This is boring but beats cheating, macroing, whatever. I do not support macroing in any way (get a timer to allert you every 5 minutes when your cargo hold gets to the brink of beeing full before the lazers switch of). My point is that only minimal effort just a slight change in the EULA text could actually deal with this issue and stop the debate about it and it shouldn't be so difficult to do I think.
Anyway stop macroing, if you were meant to be able to mine away from your computer they would have put it in the game. |
Kalhan
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Posted - 2003.10.06 18:33:00 -
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Edited by: Kalhan on 06/10/2003 18:33:57
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Kalhan, your scare tactics doesn't work.
If you disagree you'll have to take to logic and reason or you won't add anything of value to this discussion.
Scare tactics??? Tring to read your quote here is hard. Looks like you wrote it fast.(i'm not going to go through and correct your grammer, english may not be your first language and I don't wan to insult you) I believe every thing quoted was valuable to the discussion.
If I were one of the Devs, I would feel cheated that players decided to go and use third party software that wasn't met to be used, just because people think its boring. Perhaps you don't understand becuase you never created anything before.
I don't think they will just bann you without warning you either. However, if they do, you would not have any right to come out complaining about it on the forums or harrassing them with e-mails. If you do get banned without a warning, the rules you click except on everyday say they can.
That is what I was tring to point out.
If you were banned today without warning what would you do? That is the risk you take. Myself and many others think the rules are very clear, ingornance is no excuss, how do they know your not just saying "I didn't understand what you met" just to get away with it.
If they allowed macros, hell yea I would use them. But I believe the rules are clear.
If anything you have not provided any reason other then "I don't like the way they made the game" to use them.
They do speed up "normal" gameplay. I am at work and "normally" I would be on if I wasn't.
Using macros so you could play while gone or away. Takes away from the spirit of the game, and cheapens a program that took them along time to create.
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Bashar
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Posted - 2003.10.06 18:38:00 -
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I have a macro request.
My wrist hurts from to much clicking and dragging.
Would it be possible for someone to make and distribute a macro that does this? I would gladly pay ISK for it, and champion the effort to get it "Dev Approved"
Open hangar, activate macro:
Macro sorts items by type, then proceeds to pick up the first item and drag drop it onto the second item. This will stack all the unstacked loot I bring home and save my wrist the pain of stacking endless quantities of ore/minerals/loot/
It would be a nice pack that included a fast way to stack items and another one to repackage all items in hangar would also be most welcome.
regards,
Bashar Miles Teg
Shop Smart, Shop BasharMart! |
Reverend Mother
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Posted - 2003.10.06 19:11:00 -
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if its not a fun activity...its ok to cheat 
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DrEvil
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Posted - 2003.10.06 19:19:00 -
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Edited by: DrEvil on 06/10/2003 19:54:39
What is really wrong with this picture?
Everyone says, "I do something else while mining."
Guess what, I dont want to do anything else when I am playing a game. I want to be fully in the game requiring all my attention and intelligence.
When people have to do "other activities" while playing a game, uhmmm, there's something wrong.
*Bashar>> There is a stack all command on right click.
AS to Bashars request, there are other time wasting steps the devs have not eliminated in UI.
1. How about a right click unfit. Why is it necessary to drag it off.
2. Save fittings load out. (Pain to switch between mining and combat loadouts)
3. Packaging
4. Repairing Drones
5. Refine All (the right click was nice, but this still could be improved)
6. Toggle between active targets (tab maybe)
7. Reloading (no hot key, zzzz) When you have lots of mid slots with multiple targets you have to do things to, having than to switch to high slot and manually reloading is bad.
8. Clearing waypoints not in your People Places bookmarks
9. Loggin In
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Phoenix Leo
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Posted - 2003.10.06 19:37:00 -
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So the level is now down to spelling and grammar, eh?
You are quite right, english is not my first language.
I do find it funny that you didn't double check your spelling before posting, though.
About my creativity: I'm an engineer working with R&D, so I am creating things every day.
To get back to the subject:
Many things in EVE are done in a way not originally intended by the devs.
Several things have been changed to adapt to the players wishes.
CCP wants to keep its customers happy, because happy customers stay and pay.
I don't believe mining was intended to take such a dominant role in the game as it has.
Mining is boring. I am not the only one who feel that way.
Perhaps my usage of a macro is taking it too far, but it is a symptom of the problem and not the root of it.
If we do not dissent, no improvement will be made.
In the real world civil disobedience often affect decisionmakers more than whiners.
Those who do not voice any opinions at all have no effect.
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Shani
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Posted - 2003.10.06 19:53:00 -
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Phoenix Leo, you should just go on the chaos server and join fight club where you will have a 100% guaranteed funtastic time :)
absolutely no challenge involved (except the fighting) and no sense of loss because everything is free.
fun fun fun...what you waiting for...fun awaits you
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Phoenix Leo
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Posted - 2003.10.06 20:02:00 -
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Lol, that does sound like fun.
Mining is about as challenging as peeling potatoes..
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Archemedes
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Posted - 2003.10.06 21:24:00 -
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Quote:
I have a macro request.
My wrist hurts from to much clicking and dragging.
Would it be possible for someone to make and distribute a macro that does this? I would gladly pay ISK for it, and champion the effort to get it "Dev Approved"
Open hangar, activate macro:
Macro sorts items by type, then proceeds to pick up the first item and drag drop it onto the second item. This will stack all the unstacked loot I bring home and save my wrist the pain of stacking endless quantities of ore/minerals/loot/
It would be a nice pack that included a fast way to stack items and another one to repackage all items in hangar would also be most welcome.
Right-click an empty area of the hangar / cargo bay and select "stack all" from the menu... 
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Relentless
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Posted - 2003.10.06 21:30:00 -
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Quote:
Right-click an empty area of the hangar / cargo bay and select "stack all" from the menu...
Son of a b****. 
Thanx Archemedes. I can't believe I've been doing it manually all this time...
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Bashar
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Posted - 2003.10.06 22:23:00 -
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Edited by: Bashar on 06/10/2003 22:26:32
You are my hero Arch!
When did they add that? Never noticed before.
*Edit* Opps sorry Arch you have to be my hero tomorrow instead, on second glance I realized DrEvil pointed out the right click thing a few minutes before you did 
regards,
Bashar Miles Teg
Shop Smart, Shop BasharMart! |
DAViiD
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Posted - 2003.10.06 22:53:00 -
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Hiyas all!
I can only say i don't agree on macro useing, if you wanna AFK mine, go to 0.9-1.0 with a hauler.
But is it actually possible for the devs to track down ppl who use macros ? I can't really imagine how .. ?
Regards, D.
Lokan > This is more boring as listening to golf on radio! |
DREAMWORKS
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Posted - 2003.10.07 00:24:00 -
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- clicks on Forum basher macro v7.4324 -
- clicks on Anti Pirate macro v3.6 -
- clicks on Train skills macro v8.3 -
- clicks on chat on local v2.5 -
- clicks on talk to corp v5.3 -
- clicks on spam corp with excesive ammount of emails with subject: PAY YOUR TAXES! v6.5 -
goes to bed, 
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Bilabong
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Posted - 2003.10.07 10:47:00 -
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So still the confusion lumes....Could a dev plz post on this and tell us in no uncertain terms wether or no macros are allowed?
(well its easier than installing a search util to allow us to fing the previous posts!)
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ELLI
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Posted - 2003.10.07 18:46:00 -
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Kahlan>>>
Your accelrated rate agruemnet is flawed.
1. macros do not accelerate the speed with which you can mine and haul. Only way to do that is to hack the server.
2. they cant tell the difference if its a person or a macro. I could get my brother and girlfriend to do it for 4 hours ea. Tell them to click and drag every minute from this can to that can. I don't have to be around. I could go play another game.
The problem is not in mining, its in combat or to use the macro for illegal purposes, ie. duping. That is why they dont like macros.
Also your insistance that the devs know best is also naive. They dont, thats why they take feedback to improve the game. And what all this mining macro clearly demonstrates is that this part of the game needs improvement.
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Rohann
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Posted - 2003.10.07 19:51:00 -
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OMFG!?!?!?!? What is this CLINTON SPEAK? Quote:
I did not inhale, nor did i press alt + a to start my macro at normal speed
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PandaBoy
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Posted - 2003.10.07 21:57:00 -
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Quote:
Arnold Schwarzenegger
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I Inhaled.
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Roast Bifcurtains
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Posted - 2007.09.19 13:39:00 -
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Originally by: Phoenix Leo
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Still want to know if I'm right on this matter.
I agree.
I have been using a macro, basically just recorded myself doing a mining run and then set it to repeat ad nauseum.
I shall not mine, mining is the mindkiller.
To answer the original post:
1. Download Macro Express(30-day demo) from tucows.
2. Start EVE in windowed mode.
3. Record yourself doing a mining run.
4. Add repeat commands to the script.
5. Activate macro.
6. Go to bed, go to work or go and get drunk.
Actually between 4 and 5 should be check with CCP so you don't get your account shut down.
I necro'd this up from 2003! Notice the lack of dev response. Macro Express FTW?
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Erotic Irony
0bsession
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Posted - 2007.09.19 13:59:00 -
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Originally by: Roast Bifcurtains
I agree.
I have been using a macro, basically just recorded myself doing a mining run and then set it to repeat ad nauseum.
I shall not mine, mining is the mindkiller.
To answer the original post:
1. Download Macro Express(30-day demo) from tucows.
2. Start EVE in windowed mode.
3. Record yourself doing a mining run.
4. Add repeat commands to the script.
5. Activate macro.
6. Go to bed, go to work or go and get drunk.
Actually between 4 and 5 should be check with CCP so you don't get your account shut down.
would use again, service +++
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RaTTuS
BIG
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.09.19 14:03:00 -
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Necro FTL
macros are not allowed
end of commemt
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BIG Lottery, BIG Deal, InEve & RaTTuS Home
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Roast Bifcurtains
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Posted - 2007.09.19 14:45:00 -
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Originally by: RaTTuS
Necro FTL
macros are not allowed
end of commemt
Booooooo!
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Ki Tarra
Caldari
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.19 16:06:00 -
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Necro bad mmkay!
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Cornucopian
Gallente
Orias Fringe Enterprises
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.19 16:09:00 -
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excellent post by the OP.
all EULAs aside, CCP isnt doing diddly squat about this.
the best they do is: petition them, adding more pressure to an already swamped system.
its about time something changed.
anyone read the tribune article? 20% of eve is macro alt.
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"post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer."
Originally by: Royaldo
complete win by Cornucopian!
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Morrow Disca
Macrocosm Advanced Industries
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Posted - 2007.09.19 16:16:00 -
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Originally by: Cornucopian
...anyone read the tribune article? 20% of eve is macro alt.
Do you have a link?
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Hilabana
Minmatar
Sebiestor tribe
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Posted - 2007.09.19 16:21:00 -
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Look at how long Macro miners have been around and yet they still have not been stop !
They now have web sites selling the program to macro mine in eve they have youtube video's telling what they do and what people are getting the ISK !
Much of the ISK is going to GTC people that sells the GTC ingame from low sec players so they do not have to play as long as the high sec players !
I have been told ingame by players that sell GTC that prob how the players get all the ISK they pay them.
Yet it is still going on as i start to tell ccp about this i get muted !
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Maenia Gracilis
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Posted - 2007.09.19 16:23:00 -
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Originally by: Veruna Caseti
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this wouldn't be such a flippin problem if it wasn't so dammed hard to make enuff isk to get the equip you want / need.
It also wouldn't be a problem if mining wasn't so bloody boring that you were desperate for a way to do it without actually requiring your presence.
But, as it stands mining is boring and macros are illegal - so it's risk boredom, risk banning, or risk not having enough money to replace your ship next time it gets blown up.
Decisions, decsisions.
Necrophilia or not this is still as valid as ever. bzzz-bzzzz-bzzz grinding roids is hateful boredom to the power of infinity squared.
Ideally mining should work kinda like skills do - buy xyzroid mining squad, press the 'mine-haul-sell' button, go away and do some manly pew-pew stuff, get some replacement gear when your wallet lights up....
Ah well
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Ather Ialeas
Amarr
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.09.19 16:23:00 -
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Edited by: Ather Ialeas on 19/09/2007 16:23:58
Edited by: Ather Ialeas on 19/09/2007 16:23:26
Originally by: RaTTuS
Necro FTL
macros are not allowed
end of commemt
Are you sure? There's nothing about it in EULA!
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Cornucopian
Gallente
Orias Fringe Enterprises
United Freemen Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.19 16:30:00 -
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Edited by: Cornucopian on 19/09/2007 16:31:02
Originally by: Morrow Disca
Originally by: Cornucopian
...anyone read the tribune article? 20% of eve is macro alt.
Do you have a link?
tribune
they dont say anything about statistics but the current situation is extremely sad. CCP does nothing.
a direct quote 'You canĘt even kill them all as there are thousands of them'
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"post with your main. delete your alt, you sad little exploiting metagamer."
Originally by: Royaldo
complete win by Cornucopian!
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GREML0CK
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Posted - 2007.09.19 16:44:00 -
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dont take away the ice mining macro players. making tons of isk on them :)
kill-loot- sell ice harvys II's and usally some cargo expanders :)
+ they loose the mac/hulk also :)
come to the ice belts you macros. i will watch over your stuff :)
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Lurtz
Caldari
Gunrunners and Gamblers
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Posted - 2007.09.19 16:57:00 -
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Macro is bad....
Necro is almost as bad.....
IBTL
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