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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:44:00 -
[181]
Originally by: FATE LOL You know what makes me sick.
Smoske isn't dead. He never died.
The guy who played Smoske died. His name was Vincent van Weert.
You people should be ashamed of yourselves, using a dead person to always have a trump card. Not once have I heard anyone badmouth Vincent van Weert.
He's the one that died, not Smoske.
What people don't understand is Tet's sig related to people ( including him ) being TIRED of the Smokse jokes. But hey, lets crucify Goonfleet and use whatever excuse we can find!
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:44:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Wrayeth Well, I don't know about the premise for the war--I refuse to speculate, either way--but this ought to be an "interesting" fight to watch, nonetheless. It'll be interesting to see if BoB's superior quality can overcome Goonswarm's superior quantity.
If BoB bring out the titan they're rumored to have produced, I would expect yes (i.e. Goons instapopped). If they don't, then there may be some real fights going on.
In any case, if BoB's going for all out war, it'd be nice to see them actually USE the motherships they won instead of letting them gather mothballs.
At this time motherships cannot be remote repped, until such time as they can (as our capital ships come in to the frontline and don't just sit at a pos for hours on end) they will remain packaged, thanks.
@Bushido Zin - your post wasn't as funny as the one I quoted, please try harder.
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Raivin
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:45:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Itzena You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Holy ****, it's Raivin. 
Also: This is true.
Oh snap.
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[img-elite sig showing my latest kill and a Machiavelli quote] |

fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:45:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Pwadoc
Originally by: fire 59 Tbh, goons who are defending or trying to spin are ******* sick, rot in hell scumbag's. If you cannot see why so many people are ****ed of that such a sig would even exist then you are a ****, plain and simple. I didn't know the guy persoanlly but im upset and ****ed off that someone would ridicule and tarnish somone's memory like that, i'll laugh as you burn, count on it!
So get ****ed off at the guy, and stop calling me, who is completely uninvolved, a sick ****, telling me to rot in hell, and hoping I burn. What are you, some kind of psycho?
Wtf are you on about you moron, if you defended the sick ****s who said what they said, you are ******* involved, read a book, save a school
Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance |

Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:46:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Homicidalnun
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan LOL... I can't respond to everyone individually, so I'll say this. How long have you guys been playing Eve and watching what BoB does again??
Also, why would kicking someone that made an offensive joke -- 4 months later and only after some other alliance got offended -- make a good apology? It doesn't look like you kicked him out of decency but rather because you didn't want BoB to attack you. Kudos to them for seeing the difference.
If you think making fun of someone who died is acceptable, fine, whatever. It's tasteless and it'll offend someone. I'm all for free speech. You want to say/print it? Go ahead. Just be prepared to deal with the consequences of your words.
Sounds to me like you guys don't think it's a big deal, but don't want to deal with the consequences of ****ing off someone else that did take it personally.
How the HELL could anyone have possibly known that a joke TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT would be seen? Oh, it's on a private forum. It's not like we flew into BoB's space dragging his corpses behind a tractor beamed Tempest saying "LOLOLOLOL".
The guy is gone, we apologized, BoB still wanted to make a big deal of it.
We don't care.
You'd think GS would know the importance of not putting anything embarassing into a permenant, reproduceable media after posting chatlogs from D2 just a few days ago.
Btw how was that joke out of context anyway? ----------
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Anti Derivative
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:46:00 -
[186]
if BoB and Goonswarm had a baby, it would be BoobSwarm. I would totally join it.
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Degaal Valen
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:46:00 -
[187]
Why didn't this declaration of 'ending goons' not happen months ago if everyone is being so chivalrous?
The timing and deliberate rehashing of a long dead topic makes this whole thing pretty obvious.
Just declare you're coming to get us because Goonswarm is a threat since D2 couldn't handle us despite our lack of T2 ships, etc, don't hide behind some supposed noble interests.
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Aeaon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:46:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
I will not publish the words and ts recording again as it drove the player , a rl girl , away from the game due teh extreme insults and ts recording about her medical health condition .
RKK and EVOL never apoligized .
Patently awaiting answer
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:47:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Aeaon
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
I will not publish the words and ts recording again as it drove the player , a rl girl , away from the game due teh extreme insults and ts recording about her medical health condition .
RKK and EVOL never apoligized .
Patently awaiting answer
quotin' dis
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:47:00 -
[190]
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Pwadoc
Originally by: fire 59 Tbh, goons who are defending or trying to spin are ******* sick, rot in hell scumbag's. If you cannot see why so many people are ****ed of that such a sig would even exist then you are a ****, plain and simple. I didn't know the guy persoanlly but im upset and ****ed off that someone would ridicule and tarnish somone's memory like that, i'll laugh as you burn, count on it!
So get ****ed off at the guy, and stop calling me, who is completely uninvolved, a sick ****, telling me to rot in hell, and hoping I burn. What are you, some kind of psycho?
Wtf are you on about you moron, if you defended the sick ****s who said what they said, you are ******* involved, read a book, save a school
Here is an idea. Leave Smoskse buried. Stop bringing it up. If you want an excuse to war dec us, you don't need one, but stop this.
Either fight us, or shut up and let us kill D-2. I don't even care if you do kill us, but let us kill them first.
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FATE LOL
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:48:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Aeaon
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
I will not publish the words and ts recording again as it drove the player , a rl girl , away from the game due teh extreme insults and ts recording about her medical health condition .
RKK and EVOL never apoligized .
Patently awaiting answer
I'd like to see what they have to say. I mean that's just wrong.
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Andre Carnegi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:48:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Originally by: Aeaon
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
I will not publish the words and ts recording again as it drove the player , a rl girl , away from the game due teh extreme insults and ts recording about her medical health condition .
RKK and EVOL never apoligized .
Patently awaiting answer
quotin' dis
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:48:00 -
[193]
The self-righteous hypocrisy SirMolle and his apologists are demonstrating is laffo.
Beep beep, my memory is being used shallow excuse for a banal act of realpolitik!
Yeah, Tetsujin's sig has been on our public area for 9 months now, and BoB only just now discovers it and gets all ****ed about Smoske, when in practically every other thread involving us someone has to drag up this poor sap's memory and try to use it as propoganda.
Pathetic.
Goodbye!
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Jingu Himiko
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:48:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Originally by: Aeaon
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
I will not publish the words and ts recording again as it drove the player , a rl girl , away from the game due teh extreme insults and ts recording about her medical health condition .
RKK and EVOL never apoligized .
Patently awaiting answer
quotin' dis
quoting for great justice
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Vibius
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:48:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Pwadoc
Originally by: Sochin OKAY WE GET IT.
GoonSwarm is acting very indignent about this whole sitation and is trying to flip things around by accusing us of somehow "dragging our friend's corpse through the mud" by pledging to destroy the organization that has made a running joke out of denigrating his memory. All the Goons will now act very upset and accuss us of being hypocrites.
THANK YOU, WE UNDERSTAND REMEDIAL'S POSITION. THERE IS NO NEED TO HAVE EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF YOUR ALLIANCE POST IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.
For that matter, we also understand that many other Goons really like the phrase "E-honor" and somehow think that if they repeat this enough we will seem like nerds who are to involved with the internet. Everyone on this forum pays CCP to play this game, but at least we didn't pay some idiot for permission to post in the cesspool that is SomethingAwful forums.
No, you obviously don't get it. You personally insulted a large number of people who did absolutely nothing to you. I never mocked anyone's death, condoned the mocking of anyone's death, or tried to make anyone affected by that death feel bad, and BoB members have implictly accused me of all three int he past few hours.
You owe me a ******* apology, and you all need to back off.
I want an apology too.
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:48:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Homicidalnun
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan LOL... I can't respond to everyone individually, so I'll say this. How long have you guys been playing Eve and watching what BoB does again??
Also, why would kicking someone that made an offensive joke -- 4 months later and only after some other alliance got offended -- make a good apology? It doesn't look like you kicked him out of decency but rather because you didn't want BoB to attack you. Kudos to them for seeing the difference.
If you think making fun of someone who died is acceptable, fine, whatever. It's tasteless and it'll offend someone. I'm all for free speech. You want to say/print it? Go ahead. Just be prepared to deal with the consequences of your words.
Sounds to me like you guys don't think it's a big deal, but don't want to deal with the consequences of ****ing off someone else that did take it personally.
How the HELL could anyone have possibly known that a joke TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT would be seen? Oh, it's on a private forum. It's not like we flew into BoB's space dragging his corpses behind a tractor beamed Tempest saying "LOLOLOLOL".
The guy is gone, we apologized, BoB still wanted to make a big deal of it.
We don't care.
You'd think GS would know the importance of not putting anything embarassing into a permenant, reproduceable media after posting chatlogs from D2 just a few days ago.
Btw how was that joke out of context anyway?
Because the actions of a few people = ! THE FLEET!
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:49:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Pwadoc No, you obviously don't get it. You personally insulted a large number of people who did absolutely nothing to you. I never mocked anyone's death, condoned the mocking of anyone's death, or tried to make anyone affected by that death feel bad, and BoB members have implictly accused me of all three int he past few hours.
You owe me a ******* apology, and you all need to back off.
This "point" of humour, the death of someone that played this game, that YOU guys use in WHATEVER form is one that this community has found, overall, to be in bad taste. This community has made it known we don't like it. This community has made it known that we don't appreciate it.
YOU guys still want to be part of this community, which we think is great. What you guys ALSO think, which isn't so great, is that we should all adhere to your own value judgements and code of humour. Let me tell you that when you play eve you don't just play eve, on the eve forums. This is a VIRTUAL REALITY, and everyone wants the advantage - the biggest advantage coming from learning about how people are IRL.
If that signature had been used in a non-eve related forum I doubt there would be this kind of uproar, but it was. Yet you stand there putting on the "we are innocent, we are goonies" card and it just makes people laugh louder AT you. You guys really do need to learn to get on with other forum users if you're gonna get the full enjoyment out of eve.
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Cvuos
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:49:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Sochin
GoonSwarm is acting very indignent about this whole sitation and is trying to flip things around by accusing us of somehow "dragging our friend's corpse through the mud" by pledging to destroy the organization that has made a running joke out of denigrating his memory.
While this may be surprising to you, I never heard of the sig until SirMolle brought it up, barely visible between his monkey arms beating his e-chest. And I read the Goonfleet forums a lot.
The joke was used a lot to mock Remedial for the hard time he got in the chat incident that is constantly mentioned whenever someone has an axe to grind. Obviously, the axe that was there all along finally gets its turn.
D2 stuck to game mechanics. BoB needed a bloody shirt to wave. Thinking too much about honor in an internet game is not a good thing.
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Max Teranous
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:49:00 -
[199]
Good luck BoB - not that you need it.
Max 
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Floppy Disk
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:50:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Wrayeth (as our capital ships come in to the frontline and don't just sit at a pos for hours on end)
Everything else aside, I believe you, and that is why goons are excited rather than afraid. You guys don't understand us. Losing ships is not a negative thing for us. If we had to throw billionsin frigates to be the first to kill a mothership we'd do it. We're so tired of fighting D2, who after losing more than 12 dreads finally just gave up fighting us and started massively spamming POSs.
I'll say it in every thread. D2 is so incredibly weak right now I would almost declare it open season on their space. They got bogged down in CR by US??
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Trepkos
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:50:00 -
[201]
In late 2005, Lowtax sent numerous requests via email to have Eric Bauman remove content he believed to be rebranded from the eBaum's World site. After these requests failed, Lowtax asked forum members who claimed to have produced content rebranded by eBaum's to invade the eBaum's World forums in order to personally request that their content be removed, flooding the EBW forum and crashing their system.
Heh, you guys really need to get new tactics.
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Pwadoc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:51:00 -
[202]
Originally by: fire 59
Wtf are you on about you moron, if you defended the sick ****s who said what they said, you are ******* involved, read a book, save a school
I never defended anything, I never did anything. But now I'm a moron as well as a sick ****?
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tyrol
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:51:00 -
[203]
well, i neither know the person with the questionable sig, nor have i seen it. I didn't know the person who died, but neither of that is relevant. From an outsiders respective all i see is bad form from bob. Not only have you dragged real life into a game your using it as an excuse to wage war. It could have been dealt with out of game, which from my understanding is where it started and left it at that. Also the fact you delayed your response takes all credibility from your cause. I'm rooting for the goons
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Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:51:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Homicidalnun
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Homicidalnun
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan LOL... I can't respond to everyone individually, so I'll say this. How long have you guys been playing Eve and watching what BoB does again??
Also, why would kicking someone that made an offensive joke -- 4 months later and only after some other alliance got offended -- make a good apology? It doesn't look like you kicked him out of decency but rather because you didn't want BoB to attack you. Kudos to them for seeing the difference.
If you think making fun of someone who died is acceptable, fine, whatever. It's tasteless and it'll offend someone. I'm all for free speech. You want to say/print it? Go ahead. Just be prepared to deal with the consequences of your words.
Sounds to me like you guys don't think it's a big deal, but don't want to deal with the consequences of ****ing off someone else that did take it personally.
How the HELL could anyone have possibly known that a joke TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT would be seen? Oh, it's on a private forum. It's not like we flew into BoB's space dragging his corpses behind a tractor beamed Tempest saying "LOLOLOLOL".
The guy is gone, we apologized, BoB still wanted to make a big deal of it.
We don't care.
You'd think GS would know the importance of not putting anything embarassing into a permenant, reproduceable media after posting chatlogs from D2 just a few days ago.
Btw how was that joke out of context anyway?
Because the actions of a few people = ! THE FLEET!
Okay. So why kick him AFTER BoB gets upset instead of months ago? Understand why they may not care that you did it now only after you were all threatened, not because it was offensive and in poor taste?
The guy said what he did, you guys stood by and did nothing. Who cares? Live with the consequences and stop complaining about them. ----------
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BuSHiDo ZiN
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:52:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Sochin OKAY WE GET IT.
GoonSwarm is acting very indignent about this whole sitation and is trying to flip things around by accusing us of somehow "dragging our friend's corpse through the mud" by pledging to destroy the organization that has made a running joke out of denigrating his memory. All the Goons will now act very upset and accuss us of being hypocrites.
THANK YOU, WE UNDERSTAND REMEDIAL'S POSITION. THERE IS NO NEED TO HAVE EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF YOUR ALLIANCE POST IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.
For that matter, we also understand that many other Goons really like the phrase "E-honor" and somehow think that if they repeat this enough we will seem like nerds who are to involved with the internet. Everyone on this forum pays CCP to play this game, but at least we didn't pay some idiot for permission to post in the cesspool that is SomethingAwful forums.
You know those retarded Chuck Norris jokes that you got tired of a couple months back but prior to that they were the pinnacle of hilarity? Guess what.
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Jholo Artei
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:52:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Pwadoc No, you obviously don't get it. You personally insulted a large number of people who did absolutely nothing to you. I never mocked anyone's death, condoned the mocking of anyone's death, or tried to make anyone affected by that death feel bad, and BoB members have implictly accused me of all three int he past few hours.
You owe me a ******* apology, and you all need to back off.
This "point" of humour, the death of someone that played this game, that YOU guys use in WHATEVER form is one that this community has found, overall, to be in bad taste. This community has made it known we don't like it. This community has made it known that we don't appreciate it.
YOU guys still want to be part of this community, which we think is great. What you guys ALSO think, which isn't so great, is that we should all adhere to your own value judgements and code of humour. Let me tell you that when you play eve you don't just play eve, on the eve forums. This is a VIRTUAL REALITY, and everyone wants the advantage - the biggest advantage coming from learning about how people are IRL.
If that signature had been used in a non-eve related forum I doubt there would be this kind of uproar, but it was. Yet you stand there putting on the "we are innocent, we are goonies" card and it just makes people laugh louder AT you. You guys really do need to learn to get on with other forum users if you're gonna get the full enjoyment out of eve.
None of that means that me or thousands of other people make fun of such a tragedy. Don't confuse not being able to post with not wanting to post. If you're going to wardec us, go nuts, but don't do it because of the silly actions of one guy.
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Sir Tificate
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:52:00 -
[207]
Edited by: Sir Tificate on 27/07/2006 19:53:28 Edited by: Sir Tificate on 27/07/2006 19:52:36 Oh and just to clear something up Tetsujin is having his roles restored and everything.
EDIT: He's the guy with the sig in question.
EDIT 2: So stop saying we kicked him
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:52:00 -
[208]
I played a game called "Mankind" before playing Eve.
Character counts
In Mankind, there was low life sub-human named "Severed Wind", who did things like crudely joke about the dead crew from the space shuttle crash the same day that it happened.
Character counts
To this day, Severed Wind is on my **** list (and a lot of other folks too).
Character counts
And Characters counts BEYOND game AND in game.
Incredible displays of poor character are "correctly" NOT treated as part of the game. They are also NOT ignored in game. DEAL WITH IT.
In Mankind I was in the @ Alliance. One of our mortal enemies was Mordor. There were days when I'd be fuming mad at Mordor. Today a number of my best friends in BNC and BNC.E are former Mordor members from Mankind. We both played a game and blasted each other, but nothing that warrented a grudge past that game.
With "Severed Wind" (or the insult in question here in this game) it is different. It goes beyond the game.
Character counts.
As for the whiners, go ahead and dispute this, you'll just dig yourselves deeper, even if you say true things.
Play nice while you Butcher each other
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mynnna
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:52:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan I think GS are missing the point. BoB doesn't need a reason to go after you. If they want to go after you, they will. They are apparently not NAPing anyone else, they are just going straight after you and will kill anyone in their way to get to you.
Maybe you think it's stupid but what your former corpmate did was in poor taste. NEDM. Now, instead of just fighting D2 + friends with your friends, you gotta fight D2 + friends as well as BoB ... and if you're lucky, your friends will stick around and back you up (I wouldn't count on it for some of them).
Best chance you have is to go take the fight to them and show them that you are serious about not backing down and that you are just as determined as them. If you're lucky you may be able to get some amount of respect for it.
Other option is to go to NPC stations and never undock again until they get bored. Worked for other alliances in the past.
Ooooook? If they "dont need a reason", then why dredge up a four month old post, misinterpret the sig attached to it, and make a big public stink about it?
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Vibius
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:52:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Dianabolic
YOU guys still want to be part of this community
Haha, that's where you're wrong, pal.
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