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SirMolle
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 14:55:00 -
[1]
No.
And this is as personal as it will ever get.
Goodbye.
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Valrandir
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 14:56:00 -
[2]
ok -------------------------------- This has surpassed the Yarrdware specification and has been dubbed Uberware.
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General Hansen
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 14:57:00 -
[3]
Edited by: General Hansen on 27/07/2006 14:57:43
HIHI |

SenseOfHumorLOL
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Posted - 2006.07.27 14:57:00 -
[4]
THERE ARE FOUR LIGHTS
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Vanlade
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 14:58:00 -
[5]
I am Vanlade, and I could'n care less about goons.
Heil Emperor!
Quality over Equality
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John Moscroft
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 15:03:00 -
[6]
Actually we're all BoB alts. Ever wonder why we're never in the same space at the same time?
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Nahual
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 15:04:00 -
[7]
Quite true lad  -----------------------------------------------
FateCorp
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Grimpak
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 15:05:00 -
[8]
? -------
Originally by: Abdalion
Originally by: Jebidus Skari What, in EVE, is a Tyrant?
Me. Especially when it comes to troll threads.
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Saucerhead

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Posted - 2006.07.27 15:06:00 -
[9]
More clarity next time, please?
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Saucerhead

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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:38:00 -
[10]
Cleaned up and unlocked. --
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Darcuese
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:40:00 -
[11]
Originally by: Saucerhead Cleaned up and unlocked.
Thanks
DEAD or ALIVE we allways have some fun. DO YOU??
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Stamm
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:42:00 -
[12]
Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 27/07/2006 16:36:42
No.
This does not mean we will not shoot entities who share the agenda. This does not mean we will help you with your goals. It simply means...
Goodbye.
Ok. Just to be 100% clear...
SirMolle is saying -
1) BoB are now out to get Goons. 2) They will NOT be setting D2/Razor etc blue. 3) They will NOT be helping retake XZH. 4) By saying 2&3 it's reasonable to conclude that they won't just be shooting them when they see them, but taking fleets to places where they can force Goons to fight, or wreck their assets.
That's the way I read it anyway....
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Ultrabug
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:42:00 -
[13]
Signed.
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Rexthor Hammerfists
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:44:00 -
[14]
u name it Stamm. - Purple Conquered The World, We the Universe.
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Franky B
Mentally Unstable Enterprises
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:45:00 -
[15]
someone stuck a knife in the power point...
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NebulousBlur
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:45:00 -
[16]
Or maybe it means that BoB is disbanding and leaving the game forever?
Byebye!!!
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liquidism
Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:48:00 -
[17]
gl&hf bob \o/
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Louis DelaBlanche
Cosmic Odyssey Chorus of Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:49:00 -
[18]
Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 27/07/2006 16:39:43
No.
This does not mean we will not shoot entities who share the agenda. This does not mean we will help you with your goals. It simply means...
Goodbye.
This is personal.
urm... ... ... ... it hurts my head too much trying to understand _______________________________________________ The above comments & views do not reflect the opinions of Cosmic Odyssey or Chorus of Dawn; just those of an enlightened member  |

Orree
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:49:00 -
[19]
Interesting. I wondered how long it would be before BoB and the Goons locked horns...and while I think I know what the outcome will be, I'm looking forward to the show.
This is actually a fight in which I'll be rooting for BoB.
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David Godfrey
Fate. Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:49:00 -
[20]
Good Luck BOB i hope you get what you want ---------------------------------
Ghey Seal of Approval |

OzaLoni
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:50:00 -
[21]
I don't think we need say any more than the OP already has.
Human respect for life.... Something no game should EVER question or take for granted.
Nice ego, we'll take it! |

Giganticus
Jita Highway Patrol
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:51:00 -
[22]
The timing on this is excellent. Would you mind telling us why you are really going to war SirMolle?
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Plutoinum
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:51:00 -
[23]
Edited by: Plutoinum on 27/07/2006 16:52:21 I love it when BoB gets angry ... about others  Interesting times ahead. A lot to read in the forums. edit: And I need that while staring at bubbles. 
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Witch Doctor
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:55:00 -
[24]
I think this forum is literally going to melt. Tinfoils, lag, blobs, Bob, Remedial and Goons, all converging in one slugfest in-game and on forums.
It's like The Gathering for trolls - there can be only one.
I'm with Bob on this one, and not because my main is in there . Goons still don't get why this bothers people and still offer excuses instead of sincere apologies. But they are not the Goons of a year ago, so I expect rollicking tales of good fights in Syndicate.
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Furnok Dorn
Jita Highway Patrol
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:57:00 -
[25]
I now know why doves cry.....
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AngryCanuk
Mucho Dolor
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:58:00 -
[26]
vroom vroom goes the bob war machine....
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Amthrianius
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:59:00 -
[27]
/me sticks a pole in the ground infront of Goonfleet saying this ---------------
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Leafo
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 16:59:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Giganticus The timing on this is excellent. Would you mind telling us why you are really going to war SirMolle?
I believe he just did. It's personal and rightfully so.
Not that you need it, but GL to you BoB.
//Leafo
click on sig for all MC videos
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Giganticus
Jita Highway Patrol
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:00:00 -
[29]
Originally by: Leafo
Originally by: Giganticus The timing on this is excellent. Would you mind telling us why you are really going to war SirMolle?
I believe he just did. It's personal and rightfully so.
Not that you need it, but GL to you BoB.
//Leafo
Timing's too good. Try again.
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FsZ Furyion
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:01:00 -
[30]
Originally by: OzaLoni I don't think we need say any more than the OP already has.
Human respect for life.... Something no game should EVER question or take for granted.
100% agreed. nothing else needs to be said.
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Luc Boye
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:01:00 -
[31]
You know, my perceptions of goons has changed in time:
- at first, bunch of nubships zerging enemy, funny - then t1 friggies killing people, cool - then bs and hacs and stuff attacking D2, lol cool - then when you got to read their forums and have a glimpse of their taste... errr wtf.
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Randay
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:04:00 -
[32]
Did I call that **** or what?
**** em up Molle. -------------------------------------------
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Leafo
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:05:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Giganticus
Originally by: Leafo
Originally by: Giganticus The timing on this is excellent. Would you mind telling us why you are really going to war SirMolle?
I believe he just did. It's personal and rightfully so.
Not that you need it, but GL to you BoB.
//Leafo
Timing's too good. Try again.
Soon to be sold everywhere for your convenience (poster sold separately)
click on sig for all MC videos
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Schneiderr
Times of Ancar R i s e
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:08:00 -
[34]
go and teach them! wishing you fun doesnt fit into this, so i wont.
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Delthus
Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:10:00 -
[35]
Molle umm what u mean ur words are so umm non detailed? 
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Zarthanon
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:10:00 -
[36]
It's always funny how whenever molle posts something, it is obviously going to be a 15 page smackathon from BoB members. Yet, the mods still allow them to go on and on.
Fragm on taking BB space: Originally by: Fragm/thedragoon So we know what we are doing YES do we expect this to be all over in 2 weeks NO are we going to see it through to the end YES
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Zen TseTse
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:11:00 -
[37]
Disregard for the actual lives of other players is to disrespect everything that matters.
It's "just a game" but the heart of a game like this IS the players. When leaders disrespect lives of players, it's just morally pathetic. However, it's also to show disrespect for the game itself... and to disrespect why we play. An organization that has leaders who dont respect actual life or the basic reason we play... ummm....

Ф Blood Eagle is a state of mind...
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Evecrumble
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:12:00 -
[38]
Unacceptable and pretty much the worst thing i ever seen in eve. The universe just got very small for goons.
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Grim Starwind
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:13:00 -
[39]
bummer.. would have been fun to play in syndicate.. It's my fav place of all to go killing.
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Calenth
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:15:00 -
[40]
As I said in the other thread,
but Tetsujin already apologized for that in the original thread before it was locked, and nobody in GS was defending tetsujin -- none of us condone making jokes like that in public places where people won't understand the context -- we just think it's lame that people keep trolling us with something that predates our entire corporation and 99% of our members by like a year. That's what the jokes are about -- not mocking the dead, but mocking the people who bandwagon onto the memory of the dead for political points in a spaceship game.
Plus, the post quoted in the original bob troll was from May, so it looks like they'd been saving it for a while. If they're looking for an excuse to come after us then it's not hard to find one. AS to what actually happens, yeah, it'll be an interesting weekend one way or another.
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fmercury
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:16:00 -
[41]
When it's game time,
It's pain time.

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Hectic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:16:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Grim Starwind bummer.. would have been fun to play in syndicate.. It's my fav place of all to go killing.
It sure is!
But it wont be for the goons much longer.
RIP MGRL |

DarkXeRoX
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:17:00 -
[43]
Yaarrrrrrrr 
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HC MasiEEE
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:17:00 -
[44]
You cant talk it right... some people are clueles 
See you when i shoot you 
____________ HC MasiEEE
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Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:17:00 -
[45]
Edited by: Shadar Ishaan on 27/07/2006 17:18:45 Edited by: Shadar Ishaan on 27/07/2006 17:18:21 Hm, I wonder how this fits in with Remedial's plan to supposedly get:
Goonswarm 3FA ERA Alekablablahia Tau Ceti Federation Ascendant Frontier 4 unknown Mercenary Corporations SMASH Alliance
to go lock down XZH 23/7 and destroy every D2/YouWhat POS in the system in an operation similar to BoB vs TRUST a few months back in EC-? Maybe GoonSwarm diplomats tried to petition BoB to join their plan to attack D2 and 'break their spine'?
edit: I suppose I should cite my source material for that statement. Here - Remedial's Speech ----------
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Cringeley
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:20:00 -
[46]
SenseofHumour, it's my understanding that SirMolle and a number of other BoB people knew Smoske fairly well, so that doesn't really hold water.
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Thrice is he armed who has his quarrel just, But four times he who gets his blow in fust. |

Xendie
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:22:00 -
[47]
goonies disband straight away and cease to excist as a entity in eve at all. because keeping up the ranting and dishonoring of smoske will only make everyone in eve help bob to kill you.
Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
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Svett
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:24:00 -
[48]
May the gods of lag favor us in the upcomming battles, and may Remedial find his way to weight watchers.
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SenseOfHumorLOL
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:24:00 -
[49]
What, the argument that this is the most cynical sort of pretext for war, when that sig could have been used anytime in the last four months, or remedials chatlogs could have been used anytime in the last two years for a war, but it just so happens that right now on the day of the D2/XZH conflict that BoB decides to get involved they "magically" discover the chatlogs and get prepped for war?
Are you retarded? Is everybody here so willingly blind that they can't see exactly what BoB are doing? They're attempting to kill a potential enemy and dredging up Smoske's frozen corpse from deep space and putting it on display as their mascot. I bet the ******* father is crying - at the complete lack of ethics on the part of BoB over this.
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Rear Admiral
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:25:00 -
[50]
/signed let them all die. -----
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Nez Perces
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:26:00 -
[51]
It is a strange day in EVE....
RL spilled onto the game and is going to have a seismic effect on the EVE player base.
I can't help feeling that we as a community lost something today....
This whole affair is extremely ugly indeed. 
I wonder what CCP/ISD have to say about this.. if anything... I for one would like to hear it.
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caldariapa
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:26:00 -
[52]
Good luck to everyone that decides to go and beat up goons now.
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Kazim
The Collective
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:26:00 -
[53]
What happened to this smoske guy?
And if it's from some time ago, why use it now?
It will be interesting to see how this plays out though 
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Cringeley
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:34:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Kazim It is lame.
My experience with goons, hvaing been lurking there for years only recently joined SA, is that no one should take what they say seriously. Everything is fairgame to them 
I do seem to recall the setting of 9/11 footage to Benny Hill music on about 9/13.
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Thrice is he armed who has his quarrel just, But four times he who gets his blow in fust. |

Edoo
Occassus Republica Process of Elimination
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:35:00 -
[55]
Originally by: Stamm They don't need justification. If they wanted to kill Goons then SirMolle could have easily made a post saying 'Goons are a future threat, we're killing them off now'. And when would BoB do this? Not right now, now is a bad time to do it. Wait until they either lose in XZH and go elsewhere, or when they win and hold the system. He's said they won't be blue with D2, so it's not as if they're going to have an easy time of it.
You are forgetting that BOB like the attention of causing a huge fuss, stirring up personal feelings and making themselves look good. A standard war dec wouldn't cut it.
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Pwadoc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:35:00 -
[56]
You have a personal problem with me Sir Molle? Because I never did anything to you, and you've just insulted me and about 2800 other people personally.
You should have dealt with your private, real life problems like an adult, and instead you've brought them here, to a game, and hurt even more people.
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fmercury
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:36:00 -
[57]
Quote:
Oh crap guys. BoB is angry at us. I guess it's time to just roll over and accept it. There is no way we could ever survive against the awesomeness that is BoB. We're done, everybody revoke their roles, we are just finished. We are going to get totally destroyed because they are angry at us. GG. Time to head back to Empire you know, and mine veldspar.
Pretty much, yeah.
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Atandros
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:37:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Kazim
My experience with goons, hvaing been lurking there for years only recently joined SA, is that no one should take what they say seriously. Everything is fairgame to them 
Which is what will (well, perhaps has) killed them. Culturally, they're fish in an oxygen tank, and they're about to become acquainted with the ramifications of such a state.
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AngryCanuk
Mucho Dolor
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:38:00 -
[59]
I wish i knew the whole sotry over Smoske(sp?) death, it was before my time, however it would really make the whole situation more clear....
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Toffles
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:38:00 -
[60]
Originally by: Traxio Nacho SenseOfHumorLOL
To everyone saying "this is just an excuse" for BOB to go pick on the goons why would BOB ever need an excuse?
They need an excuse because everyone knows it's exceedingly lame for the two most powerful alliances in the game to gang up on a bunch of new players. It is no coincidence that this happened the very day that we launch a massive operation aimed at removing over 40 D2 deathstars.
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corpran
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:40:00 -
[61]
Has anyone noticed how BoB always pull Smoske out to gain the moral high ground? It was a joke in poor taste, true, but it was still a joke.
Have you read Amber Nile's post? That actually happened to he and his wife. It doesn't excuse the ones making the jokes, but it gives an explanation, at least. Also, as far as I can tell, most of these insults have spawned from people spreading rumors such as he was drunk/high/incapacitated. What would you think if heard someone crashed into a truck on a moped while drunk and high on the wrong side of the road?
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Rubra
J. S. Bach In memoriam
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:41:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Rubra on 27/07/2006 17:41:53 Linkage for the uninitiated.
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Armois Delgato
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:41:00 -
[63]
Wow. I'm quite impressed that the actions of a scant few, actions that the good majority of us do not care for or condone, can invoke so well the ire of BoB.
If I must fight, I'll fight. I still have ships left to melt and ISK left to spend, after all. To say this is "the end" for the Swarm is to forget why we even play this internet space game. Without the Swarm there is no point to EVE or to posting on this internet forum.
There is no "goodbye." I'd much rather give a warm, hearty hello to BoB and offer up spacemarshmellows to all- except you D2, you had too many already.
Combat is glorious.
Let chaos rule.
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Justor JeiGallo
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:41:00 -
[64]
Originally by: fmercury
Quote:
Oh crap guys. BoB is angry at us. I guess it's time to just roll over and accept it. There is no way we could ever survive against the awesomeness that is BoB. We're done, everybody revoke their roles, we are just finished. We are going to get totally destroyed because they are angry at us. GG. Time to head back to Empire you know, and mine veldspar.
Pretty much, yeah.
Bitter much, ex-Goonie?
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Crivens
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:41:00 -
[65]
Quote: You have a personal problem with me Sir Molle? Because I never did anything to you, and you've just insulted me and about 2800 other people personally.
You should have dealt with your private, real life problems like an adult, and instead you've brought them here, to a game, and hurt even more people.
(this is my main)
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OzaLoni
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:41:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Edoo
Originally by: Stamm They don't need justification. If they wanted to kill Goons then SirMolle could have easily made a post saying 'Goons are a future threat, we're killing them off now'. And when would BoB do this? Not right now, now is a bad time to do it. Wait until they either lose in XZH and go elsewhere, or when they win and hold the system. He's said they won't be blue with D2, so it's not as if they're going to have an easy time of it.
You are forgetting that BOB like the attention of causing a huge fuss, stirring up personal feelings and making themselves look good. A standard war dec wouldn't cut it.
Dude - If you knew bob at all then you would know otherwise but oh well.. carry on believing what you will.. Also look past the end of your nose for once and stop assuming this is just a cheap way for Bob to fire up its war machine.
That couldn't be further from the truth!
Nice ego, we'll take it! |

Orree
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:41:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Stamm
Originally by: Giganticus
Originally by: Kazim What happened to this smoske guy?
And if it's from some time ago, why use it now?
It will be interesting to see how this plays out though 
He died in an accident afaik.
BoB are showing no class here though, they are basically bringing up the 2 year old insult made by Firstname Lastname and Remedial in order to succeed at a videogame right now.
They don't need justification. If they wanted to kill Goons then SirMolle could have easily made a post saying 'Goons are a future threat, we're killing them off now'. And when would BoB do this? Not right now, now is a bad time to do it. Wait until they either lose in XZH and go elsewhere, or when they win and hold the system. He's said they won't be blue with D2, so it's not as if they're going to have an easy time of it.
Well said.
I totally agree the timing is interesting, but I am inclined to take BoB at their word on this one.
It's not for the rest of us to say whether they feel they have been harmed. They have stated that they have and they will now exact their retribution.
BoB do not need to make up such a cynical excuse to go whack anyone. I doubt seriously they would use the death of someone they revere in this case. If I'm wrong, so be it. I choose to take them at their word.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:42:00 -
[68]
Originally by: SenseOfHumorLOL What, the argument that this is the most cynical sort of pretext for war, when that sig could have been used anytime in the last four months, or remedials chatlogs could have been used anytime in the last two years for a war, but it just so happens that right now on the day of the D2/XZH conflict that BoB decides to get involved they "magically" discover the chatlogs and get prepped for war?
Are you retarded? Is everybody here so willingly blind that they can't see exactly what BoB are doing? They're attempting to kill a potential enemy and dredging up Smoske's frozen corpse from deep space and putting it on display as their mascot. I bet the ******* father is crying - at the complete lack of ethics on the part of BoB over this.
You're wrong.
We don't really give a toss what you think.
Goons are going to die, no matter what it takes.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Orree
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:43:00 -
[69]
Edited by: Orree on 27/07/2006 17:45:14
Originally by: Toffles
Originally by: Traxio Nacho SenseOfHumorLOL
To everyone saying "this is just an excuse" for BOB to go pick on the goons why would BOB ever need an excuse?
They need an excuse because everyone knows it's exceedingly lame for the two most powerful alliances in the game to gang up on a bunch of new players. It is no coincidence that this happened the very day that we launch a massive operation aimed at removing over 40 D2 deathstars.
You don't get to use that "noob" defense anymore. You're not just noobs flying friggies any longer (if you ever were). You're hiring mercs and engaging in all sorts of shenangigans to win support for yourselves. You're not just flying T1 frigs, either.
There is nothing lame about anyone putting you down for whatever reason.
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Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:44:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: SenseOfHumorLOL What, the argument that this is the most cynical sort of pretext for war, when that sig could have been used anytime in the last four months, or remedials chatlogs could have been used anytime in the last two years for a war, but it just so happens that right now on the day of the D2/XZH conflict that BoB decides to get involved they "magically" discover the chatlogs and get prepped for war?
Are you retarded? Is everybody here so willingly blind that they can't see exactly what BoB are doing? They're attempting to kill a potential enemy and dredging up Smoske's frozen corpse from deep space and putting it on display as their mascot. I bet the ******* father is crying - at the complete lack of ethics on the part of BoB over this.
You're wrong.
We don't really give a toss what you think.
Goons are going to die, no matter what it takes.
Off topic but FFS update your blog. It's a good read.  ----------
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Eloryan Persago
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:44:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Blacklight
You're wrong.
We don't really give a toss what you think.
Goons are going to die, no matter what it takes.
I heard Smartbombs work well _________________________________________ Anything posted by this character does not represent Goonfleet and/or Goonswarm, anything said which may offend you was probably said because I meant it |

Justor JeiGallo
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:45:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Armois Delgato Wow. I'm quite impressed that the actions of a scant few, actions that the good majority of us do not care for or condone, can invoke so well the ire of BoB.
It's called being thin-skinned and insecure of one's own real life self spilling over into an internet space game. SHHH!!
Quote:
If I must fight, I'll fight. I still have ships left to melt and ISK left to spend, after all. To say this is "the end" for the Swarm is to forget why we even play this internet space game. Without the Swarm there is no point to EVE or to posting on this internet forum.
There is no "goodbye." I'd much rather give a warm, hearty hello to BoB and offer up spacemarshmellows to all- except you D2, you had too many already.
Combat is glorious.
Let chaos rule.
Quotin dis. Bring it, foghats!
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Thoreau
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:45:00 -
[73]
Quote:
A few of the goon pilots have had some weird obsession with trying to make jokes about it before and now they obviously thought that it was to long ago since someone tried to insult the memory of Smoske.
It is sad that many pilots refuse to read our posts and realize that this is absolutely NOT the case. I don't understand how hard it is to read what we type. I grieved for my grandfathers' death, the death of a close friend to a brain tumor, but most of all I am absolutely appalled that no player had any remorse or kind words in reply to Amber Nile and his loss. That makes the perpetuators of this political spin hypocrites.
I apologize, but before SirMolle's inflammatory and ignorant posts I have had much respect for BoB in EVE. Within 2 threads I have no more respect for BoB. Good day sir, I will gladly meet your hostility and arrogance in space wherever I may fly.
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Pwadoc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:45:00 -
[74]
Originally by: Blacklight
You're wrong.
We don't really give a toss what you think.
Goons are going to die, no matter what it takes.
You and, everyone from your corp that has posted, owe me, and over 2000 goons that have nothing to do with this, an apology. An apology for taking a personal matter between a few people, escalating it and insulting us.
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Crivens
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:46:00 -
[75]
Sirmolle, this person was your friend and in order to honour his memory you and your big friends are going to blow up internet spaceships.
Wont he and his father be proud.
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Snowden Vel
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:53:00 -
[76]
Welcome to the party, too bad you felt compelled to invite yourself by dredging up this sad matter from EVE history. Like Armois said, GoonSwarm's membership has nothing to do with this mess from the past. We're fighting with clear consciences, and we'll be fighting hard. See you in space.
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Jholo Artei
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:53:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Iron Jaw To say im Insulted by Bob is an understatement.
IV just been Tarred with the same brush because of what one person out of 3000, who isnt even in my Corp has done. Personaly though, i dont buy it.
TFC Navy Iron Jaw
You shouldn't buy it. People in Goonswarm don't find real-life death amusing, though BoB wouldn't know, because they only posted about it to interject themselves into a battle that isn't theirs and to gain more internet attention.
My condolences to the man's family, but this shouldn't even be brought up here.
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Bavarian Punk
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:55:00 -
[78]
Originally by: Toffles
Originally by: Traxio Nacho SenseOfHumorLOL
To everyone saying "this is just an excuse" for BOB to go pick on the goons why would BOB ever need an excuse?
They need an excuse because everyone knows it's exceedingly lame for the two most powerful alliances in the game to gang up on a bunch of new players. It is no coincidence that this happened the very day that we launch a massive operation aimed at removing over 40 D2 deathstars.
You just don't get it, do you? I bet BoB guys would have preferred not to find such a sick signature in your forums. It's rather bold to now accuse them to "bring it up". The sick thing is the signature and the attitude displayed with it, not the person who finds it out (most likely by accident). YOU HAVE THEM THE REASON TO BE ANGRY NOW FFS!
And the picture of the little innocent newb alliance that just tries to get a foothold in conquerable space is just pathetic. Although many bees are certainly nice blokes, almost every single goon post on these very forums proves that the level of tastelessness and retardedness is especially strong with The Goon. No means, be it on the forums or ingame, are dirty enough for you.
Think about it, if you are suddenly facing not only one, but two of the most powerful alliances ingame, something must have gone wrong big time somewhere. Oh yeah I know, it's because we are the prototypical internet bullies 
You get what you deserve. ---
Go buy your stuff at T R U S T Shop |

fmercury
Contraband Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:55:00 -
[79]
Quote:
Bitter much, ex-Goonie?
What do I have to be bitter about? I quit GF on my own terms, killed 140 of you in 4 days, solo, and joined a corp which is dozens of times better, and more fun than GF will ever be.
Man, sour grapes for me, huh?
Good luck to BoB. You won't need it.
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sidthesexist
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 17:56:00 -
[80]
Smoske was an EvE player, he was more than an eve-player - he was an inspiration to alot of people. He made the game fun for people when it was boring and could inspire people into doing things they had never thought of. Smoske died a while back now - He was honoured by those who knew him and rememmbered by them to, only to be insulted by Remedials comments and disgusting use of insults with a signature.
Remedial is not a fit leader. His comments and insults about Smoske, the fact they made a signature is totaly disgusting to the memories of Smoske.
Here is a quote from Remedials last speach to all the goons.
[Quote=Remedial] I am angry because I consider D2 to be like the worst sort of gamer. One who play Counter Strike and they lose complain about the other guy hacking. When they play ******* WarCraft III or StarCraft theyÆre the guys who quit as soon as they see a rush. If they canÆt win on their terms they donÆt want to play this game. So I say **** it, make it so they donÆt play this game. If we have to ruin their experience for them, to get them to quit, to get them to break down and cry and admit theyÆre not good enough by ******* camping them into a corner for a hundred hours straight, I say we do it.
This basically surmises what Remedial is about, he doesnt care who he insults, doesnt care about who he hurts, doesnt care about the fact this game is meant to be enjoyed, he cares about one thing - Himself. He is what is known as a power-monger, he likes to feel in control of every aspect of everything around him and will do it no matter what.
To the goons, if you have any self-respect you would leave that alliance now.
Remedial, i say this to you - Things are known to turn on their head, be carefull of what you say.
--- To BoB, I salute you for honouring Smoske - Kick their butt. ________ Euphoria Released
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:03:00 -
[81]
Originally by: Svett
Originally by: Deakin Frost Nice timing, BoB.
Really, we planned to stage a huge attack onto your neighbors, then suddenly you dig out an old post and a terrible fuzz about some offsite signature. Yeah, too much of a coincidence. And while riding on the honour train, especially regarding Smokses father which apparently still plays (or whatever I've been told), you prefer to spread this crap across the whole RP forums instead of straight out attacking us without forewarning.
gg rly
This is forewarning, isn't it? We are not setting d2 to positive standings. If they show up it will be a nice laggy 3 way gangbang fest.
fake edit : remedial to lose weight
I am offended!
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phlage
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:04:00 -
[82]
Edited by: phlage on 27/07/2006 19:04:54 Whichever d2 or bob guy shoved this in front of this guys father is the worst kind of hypocrite. He would never have seen any of this unless it was shown to him or plastered all over these boards.
You are using this man's renewed tears and memories as an excuse for political leverage in a *video game* to rally your troops behind, and it is you we make fun of.
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Adalus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:04:00 -
[83]
Originally by: Svett
This is forewarning, isn't it? We are not setting d2 to positive standings. If they show up it will be a nice laggy 3 way gangbang fest.
fake edit : remedial to lose weight
Quotin' this in case some of the less literate goons missed it. Weren't we hoping BoB would come join the fun less than a week ago? Sure, they're ostensibly here to kill us because I guess one of them cries just SO HARD about something mean someone said on the internet four months ago, but the important part is that they're here.
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BEEPBEEP IMA
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:04:00 -
[84]
You know what, hopefully these fights will be fun, hopefully we'll get a little fun out of this holy crusade, because that's what games are still for, to us. Fun.
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Sir Tificate
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:04:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Deathwing
I would advise you and your clearly defective and disfunctional alliance set auto-pilot to empire somewhere, log off and delete your accounts.
This post was certainly made in a civilized and non-trollish manner.
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Exioce
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:04:00 -
[86]
Originally by: Deathwing
Originally by: Phobos Ra I may not agree with what the offensive person in my corp had to say. I may not agree with the way that he chose to say it. But I will defend to the death of me, his right to say it.
tbh your rights in the eve world extend only as far as CCP deem fit son. And when it comes to offenseive material...your rights are about as limited as the pvp ability of your alliance.
I would advise you and your clearly defective and disfunctional alliance set auto-pilot to empire somewhere, log off and delete your accounts.
internet tough guy alert
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:05:00 -
[87]
Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN Is anyone else offended to hell and back that BoB is dragging a dead man through the mud to further their political goals in a goddamn video game?
Nice attempt to turn things on their head. Accusing us of dragging a deceased friend's name through the mud is disgraceful after the way you lot carry on.
Don't care what you think or why you think we have decided to crush you, we are just going to do it, so you can quit your whining and prepare to die.
Whether it takes a month or a year Goonswarm are history.
Eve Blacklight Style
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PSA1SWIPE
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:05:00 -
[88]
Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 27/07/2006 16:39:43
No.
This does not mean we will not shoot entities who share the agenda. This does not mean we will help you with your goals. It simply means...
Goodbye.
This is personal.
i know im a bit off topic but this has some relavance evol is mad bacause of what some one else brough from rl into the game any of You evol Remember Rockduiveltje eh Undertaker and Mephiste? You rember waht you were saying in local about her and her family.
dont get me wrong im not defending that goonie poerson i couldent give two craps about him but this seem a bit hiprocrital of them.
The clash is going to post along with me but he using his new charater p1rat bunny
p.s. goons and bob have fun dod crash the node to many times
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Zorlag
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:05:00 -
[89]
By the Prophet Remedial and Psuedo-Jesus-Sesfan we will fight.
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splattercat
F.R.E.E. Explorer EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:05:00 -
[90]
 OCC and NOT from my allance/corp. Haveing Read whats been going on and knowing (by Rep mainly) some off the ppl who have been talked about/posting all i can say is GO BoB and i never thought i will ever be saying that.
Give em hell.
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Val Andil
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:05:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Svett
fake edit : remedial to lose weight
That's not true.
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Pr1at Bunny
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:05:00 -
[92]
I remember some extreme behaviour from BoB members as well back in GNW against Rockduiveltje .
But ho hey that was np he guys 
I absolutely dont agree with has happend but also take a peek in yer own ranks you took no action then support yer members back then .
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terminal mehmet
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:06:00 -
[93]
Originally by: Deathwing
Originally by: Phobos Ra I may not agree with what the offensive person in my corp had to say. I may not agree with the way that he chose to say it. But I will defend to the death of me, his right to say it.
tbh your rights in the eve world extend only as far as CCP deem fit son. And when it comes to offenseive material...your rights are about as limited as the pvp ability of your alliance.
I would advise you and your clearly defective and disfunctional alliance set auto-pilot to empire somewhere, log off and delete your accounts.
That's great. See you in space. The gloves are off. Bring your guns.
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Turiya Flesharrower
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:07:00 -
[94]
Edited by: Turiya Flesharrower on 27/07/2006 19:08:08 Double Post -----
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The Howard
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:07:00 -
[95]
URRGH MUST DEFEND E-HONOR LETS GO
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Adohan Zefyr
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:08:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Blacklight
Nice attempt to turn things on their head. Accusing us of dragging a deceased friend's name through the mud is disgraceful after the way you lot carry on.
Don't care what you think or why you think we have decided to crush you, we are just going to do it, so you can quit your whining and prepare to die.
Whether it takes a month or a year Goonswarm are history.
E-HONOUR UUUUUGGHGHGHGHG
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Exioce
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:08:00 -
[97]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN Is anyone else offended to hell and back that BoB is dragging a dead man through the mud to further their political goals in a goddamn video game?
Nice attempt to turn things on their head. Accusing us of dragging a deceased friend's name through the mud is disgraceful after the way you lot carry on.
Don't care what you think or why you think we have decided to crush you, we are just going to do it, so you can quit your whining and prepare to die.
Whether it takes a month or a year Goonswarm are history.
internet tough guy alert #2
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Turiya Flesharrower
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:08:00 -
[98]
Originally by: SenseOfHumorLOL What, the argument that this is the most cynical sort of pretext for war, when that sig could have been used anytime in the last four months, or remedials chatlogs could have been used anytime in the last two years for a war, but it just so happens that right now on the day of the D2/XZH conflict that BoB decides to get involved they "magically" discover the chatlogs and get prepped for war?
Are you retarded? Is everybody here so willingly blind that they can't see exactly what BoB are doing? They're attempting to kill a potential enemy and dredging up Smoske's frozen corpse from deep space and putting it on display as their mascot. I bet the ******* father is crying - at the complete lack of ethics on the part of BoB over this.
This is basically the exact truth of the matter, anyone with half a mind knows it. It'll be another triumph for the BoB propaganda machine but I hope the upper-level BoB members who orchestrated this farce will have a hard time sleeping at night for dragging their late friend's corpse out of the closet as part of some political maneuver in a computer game.
At some point you people have to step back and question how far you're willing to go. -----
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Eximius Josari
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:09:00 -
[99]
If this is about what I think it is about. I'm cheering for BoB.
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CrestoftheStars
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:09:00 -
[100]
Edited by: CrestoftheStars on 27/07/2006 19:09:19
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN Is anyone else offended to hell and back that BoB is dragging a dead man through the mud to further their political goals in a goddamn video game?
Nice attempt to turn things on their head. Accusing us of dragging a deceased friend's name through the mud is disgraceful after the way you lot carry on.
Don't care what you think or why you think we have decided to crush you, we are just going to do it, so you can quit your whining and prepare to die.
Whether it takes a month or a year Goonswarm are history.
I'm gonna beat you up. In space.
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Zyxphoni
GoonFleet
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:10:00 -
[101]
I think a few more BoB people need to post in this thread about how they're going to crush and our e-honor all the way back to empire because I'm just not getting the message yet
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Zosh
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:10:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN Is anyone else offended to hell and back that BoB is dragging a dead man through the mud to further their political goals in a goddamn video game?
Nice attempt to turn things on their head. Accusing us of dragging a deceased friend's name through the mud is disgraceful after the way you lot carry on.
Don't care what you think or why you think we have decided to crush you, we are just going to do it, so you can quit your whining and prepare to die.
Whether it takes a month or a year Goonswarm are history.
Yeah well my dad could beat up your dad so there
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Dyme
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:11:00 -
[103]
Wow I finally figured out how to make my alliance/corp show. The funny thing is that I was looking in the right place all the time, but every time I clicked the link it would randomy load a different page. So I just kept clicking it until I loaded the right one. This is awesome.
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Ismern
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:11:00 -
[104]
Ok, I tried to post this in another thread and it got pounded.
This is an honest and rational opinion about the situation. I hope that the forum mods don't see this as trolling and delete it.
I am a member of GoonSwarm, but I am not a goon in the sense of the term. I didn't come from the SA forums, I'm here because I wanted a fun corp to play this game in and a friend of mine sponsored me in.
As such, I don't tend to share the same sense of humor as most goons. While I do find much funny, and I do enjoy the company and comradery that I have enjoyed these past few months, there are some things that I find rather tasteless and tactless and this is most definitely one of those things. There should never be any disrespect for the dead.
That having been said, I do question BoB's motives right now. There are two reasons for an assault upon GS: BoB is threatened by the rise of another strong power nearby or personal vengeance.
The timing of this incident does seem to be a little convenient for D2 et al. If BoB truly does feel threatened by the uprising of a large force right on their doorstep, then they should treat it as such. To use this as a false pretense for war is, in my opinion, just plain disgusting.
If this is in fact 100% about the passing away of a dear friend of the EVE community and the subsequential tasteless remarks made by a certain (or perhaps few) GoonSwarm members then that is truly just ridiculous. Yes, everyone should be made to be held accountable for their actions, but to become angry and swear for the ultimate destruction of an entire alliance for personal vindication, well, that my friends is quite possibly one of the most childish actions you can find in this game. If this truly is the reason for BoB deciding to attack GS, then all notions of BoB being high and righteous go out the window. If I were in the position of someone insulting a deceased personal friend of mine, I would be furious. But would I swear vengeance? No. I have more tact than that. I do not need to stoop to the level of immaturity of those who made the comment.
If you want to come fight us because this is war and you need to maintain power then fine. Come fight us. That is what this game is about and I will welcome the fight. But if you choose to come fight us for this pretense, well, then I will lose all respect I had for BoB.
----------------------------------------------------------- "It's not that I'm lazy . . . It's that I just don't care." |

Thoreau
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:12:00 -
[105]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN Is anyone else offended to hell and back that BoB is dragging a dead man through the mud to further their political goals in a goddamn video game?
Nice attempt to turn things on their head. Accusing us of dragging a deceased friend's name through the mud is disgraceful after the way you lot carry on.
Don't care what you think or why you think we have decided to crush you, we are just going to do it, so you can quit your whining and prepare to die.
Whether it takes a month or a year Goonswarm are history.
Nice try hypocrite.
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Ghaulth
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:12:00 -
[106]
Edited by: Ghaulth on 27/07/2006 19:12:47
Originally by: Blacklight Nice attempt to turn things on their head. Accusing us of dragging a deceased friend's name through the mud is disgraceful after the way you lot carry on.
It was a member of BoB who brought this up. How hard can that be to understand? Even if you couldn't bother to go back and check the post yourself, we've pointed it out to you repeatedly.
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Internal Error
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:13:00 -
[107]
I can't wait till we get that killmail for a titan and a velator has the final blow.
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Sergeant Spot
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:13:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Iron Jaw To say im Insulted by Bob is an understatement.
IV just been Tarred with the same brush because of what one person out of 3000, who isnt even in my Corp has done. Personaly though, i dont buy it.
TFC Navy Iron Jaw
You ARE tarred due to not kicking the bastard, your corp or not, he is in the alliance.
Kicking him now might help, but it may be to late.
For the record, there was in incident in BNC about a couple of years ago when I was a member. I left the Corp on principle for a full year. I was latter asked to help found BNC.E. The FIRST thing I did was check the issue I had left the Corp about, and found that the result I had asked for had come to pass. (Thus the issue is dead and PEACEFULLY buried and will remain so, so don't ask).
I've put my actions where my mouth is.
The thing is, when a "true" matter of principle came up, I did not yield, not even for my friends, not even to stay in a VERY successful corp.
Character counts.
Not everyone agrees what is important, but some things are easier to agree on than others. (The one in question on this issue being a lot more agreeable than mine was a couple of years ago)
Its a safe bet that any group harboring the insulting worm will be on BoB's **** list. Not so much a guarenteed war or war dec (which would allow idiots to try and manipulate you), but just on the **** list....
Play nice while you Butcher each other
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Eximius Josari
Citizens of E.A.R.T.H. E.A.R.T.H. Federation
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:13:00 -
[109]
Originally by: Eximius Josari If this is about what I think it is about. I'm cheering for BoB.
Yep, it is. And I am.
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Pwadoc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:13:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN Is anyone else offended to hell and back that BoB is dragging a dead man through the mud to further their political goals in a goddamn video game?
Nice attempt to turn things on their head. Accusing us of dragging a deceased friend's name through the mud is disgraceful after the way you lot carry on.
Don't care what you think or why you think we have decided to crush you, we are just going to do it, so you can quit your whining and prepare to die.
Whether it takes a month or a year Goonswarm are history.
I'm not whining. I'm telling you. You have insulted me, personally, in a real life way, for something I had no part in. I couldn't care less what you do in the goddamn game. Get in touch with me in some private manner so that we can dicuss, in real life, why exactly you felt it was appropriate to drag me and 2800 other people who weren't involved, into your personal mess.
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Pwadoc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:15:00 -
[111]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
Originally by: Iron Jaw To say im Insulted by Bob is an understatement.
IV just been Tarred with the same brush because of what one person out of 3000, who isnt even in my Corp has done. Personaly though, i dont buy it.
TFC Navy Iron Jaw
You ARE tarred due to not kicking the bastard, your corp or not, he is in the alliance.
Kicking him now might help, but it may be to late.
For the record, there was in incident in BNC about a couple of years ago when I was a member. I left the Corp on principle for a full year. I was latter asked to help found BNC.E. The FIRST thing I did was check the issue I had left the Corp about, and found that the result I had asked for had come to pass. (Thus the issue is dead and PEACEFULLY buried and will remain so, so don't ask).
I've put my actions where my mouth is.
The thing is, when a "true" matter of principle came up, I did not yield, not even for my friends, not even to stay in a VERY successful corp.
Character counts.
Not everyone agrees what is important, but some things are easier to agree on than others. (The one in question on this issue being a lot more agreeable than mine was a couple of years ago)
Its a safe bet that any group harboring the insulting worm will be on BoB's **** list. Not so much a guarenteed war or war dec (which would allow idiots to try and manipulate you), but just on the **** list....
This is not about the game, what alliance you are in, or any of that crap. These are real life subjects that are best dealt with in real life. between the people involved. If BoB wants to come fight us for the fun of the fight, that's fine, but this game is a completely innappropriate forum to express your feelings ont he matter.
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Heero Yuy
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:15:00 -
[112]
Who cares about BoB's motives here. Goonswarm f***ed up royally and has shown zero class in this matter. Like others I never thought I'd say this, but needs must - Go BoB!
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Dyme
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:15:00 -
[113]
bob ftw tbqh
goonies ftl
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Raivin
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:16:00 -
[114]
To Molle and the rest of the peanut gallery,
Using the death of a human being to forward your agenda in a VIDEO GAME is every bit as ghoulish as some random stranger on the Internet making a tasteless joke out of it.
You're using real life tragedy to launch your e-ships. You're nothing but Internet toughguy scumbags deluding yourselves into thinking you're on some holy crusade in the name of a dead friend. You know why people make jokes like that? To get a rise out of holier-than-thou twits like you. What do you think, his family is going to thank you for defending his honor against faceless strangers from a computer game?
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
---
[img-elite sig showing my latest kill and a Machiavelli quote] |

Metal Dude
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:16:00 -
[115]
Edited by: Metal Dude on 27/07/2006 19:17:00
One moron can cause suffering for so many others. I guess Goons have not learned that yet about EVE. They are about to.

The truth will set you free
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:17:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Metal Dude One moron can cause suffering for so many others. I guess Goons have not learned that yet about EVE. They are abaout to. 
And the BoB self ego stroking posts continue! WOOOOO
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:17:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
Originally by: Iron Jaw To say im Insulted by Bob is an understatement.
IV just been Tarred with the same brush because of what one person out of 3000, who isnt even in my Corp has done. Personaly though, i dont buy it.
TFC Navy Iron Jaw
You ARE tarred due to not kicking the bastard, your corp or not, he is in the alliance.
Kicking him now might help, but it may be to late.
For the record, there was in incident in BNC about a couple of years ago when I was a member. I left the Corp on principle for a full year. I was latter asked to help found BNC.E. The FIRST thing I did was check the issue I had left the Corp about, and found that the result I had asked for had come to pass. (Thus the issue is dead and PEACEFULLY buried and will remain so, so don't ask).
I've put my actions where my mouth is.
The thing is, when a "true" matter of principle came up, I did not yield, not even for my friends, not even to stay in a VERY successful corp.
Character counts.
Not everyone agrees what is important, but some things are easier to agree on than others. (The one in question on this issue being a lot more agreeable than mine was a couple of years ago)
Its a safe bet that any group harboring the insulting worm will be on BoB's **** list. Not so much a guarenteed war or war dec (which would allow idiots to try and manipulate you), but just on the **** list....
Hello, I am from BoB. I am important in this space game, and you'd better do as I say! I don't care what corp you're from, I will bring up whatever retarded argument and reasoning I can to inflate my own ego and loudly remind people how important I am constantly.
Look at yourself. Then realize you're talking about an internet space game.
Then for God's sake go find yourself a girl friend or smack yourself in the head until you realize IT IS A GAME.
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Dyme
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:18:00 -
[118]
Originally by: Heero Yuy Who cares about BoB's motives here. Goonswarm f***ed up royally and has shown zero class in this matter. Like others I never thought I'd say this, but needs must - Go BoB!
u r so rite
goonie pay for they're disjustices
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Exioce
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:18:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Metal Dude Edited by: Metal Dude on 27/07/2006 19:17:00
One moron can cause suffering for so many others. I guess Goons have not learned that yet about EVE. They are about to.

internet tough guy alert #3
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Alvinas
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:18:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Metal Dude Edited by: Metal Dude on 27/07/2006 19:17:00
One moron can cause suffering for so many others. I guess Goons have not learned that yet about EVE. They are about to.

You know NOTHING of goons, do you? Nothing.
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BuSHiDo ZiN
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:18:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN Is anyone else offended to hell and back that BoB is dragging a dead man through the mud to further their political goals in a goddamn video game?
Nice attempt to turn things on their head. Accusing us of dragging a deceased friend's name through the mud is disgraceful after the way you lot carry on.
Don't care what you think or why you think we have decided to crush you, we are just going to do it, so you can quit your whining and prepare to die.
Whether it takes a month or a year Goonswarm are history.
I'm sorry I can't hear you over the smarmy, smug post that Fi'tzeh made drudging it out of a four month old post on our forums
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Trepkos
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:19:00 -
[122]
BoB's killboard will probably crash from the amount of kills.
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Sir Tificate
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:19:00 -
[123]
Originally by: Heero Yuy Who cares about BoB's motives here. Goonswarm f***ed up royally and has shown zero class in this matter. Like others I never thought I'd say this, but needs must - Go BoB!
So far the vast majority of the people I have seen say this are only BoB, who would want to destroy us no matter what and don't want to have to actually NAP D2 so they just take advantage of good timing, and D2+friends, who naturally want BoB to come because they can't defeat us on their own.
Nope, no bias at all.
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Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:19:00 -
[124]
I think GS are missing the point. BoB doesn't need a reason to go after you. If they want to go after you, they will. They are apparently not NAPing anyone else, they are just going straight after you and will kill anyone in their way to get to you.
Maybe you think it's stupid but what your former corpmate did was in poor taste. NEDM. Now, instead of just fighting D2 + friends with your friends, you gotta fight D2 + friends as well as BoB ... and if you're lucky, your friends will stick around and back you up (I wouldn't count on it for some of them).
Best chance you have is to go take the fight to them and show them that you are serious about not backing down and that you are just as determined as them. If you're lucky you may be able to get some amount of respect for it.
Other option is to go to NPC stations and never undock again until they get bored. Worked for other alliances in the past. ----------
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BuSHiDo ZiN
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:20:00 -
[125]
Originally by: Heero Yuy Who cares about BoB's motives here. Goonswarm f***ed up royally and has shown zero class in this matter. Like others I never thought I'd say this, but needs must - Go BoB!
JESUS CHRIST WHAT PART OF "THIS WAS DRUDGED OUT OF A FOUR MONTH OLD POST ON OUR OWN FORUMS BY A SMUGASS BOB MEMBER" DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
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Justor JeiGallo
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:20:00 -
[126]
Edited by: Justor JeiGallo on 27/07/2006 19:22:22
Originally by: PSA1SWIPE
Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 27/07/2006 16:39:43
No.
This does not mean we will not shoot entities who share the agenda. This does not mean we will help you with your goals. It simply means...
Goodbye.
This is personal.
i know im a bit off topic but this has some relavance evol is mad bacause of what some one else brough from rl into the game any of You evol Remember Rockduiveltje eh Undertaker and Mephiste? You rember waht you were saying in local about her and her family.
dont get me wrong im not defending that goonie poerson i couldent give two craps about him but this seem a bit hiprocrital of them.
The clash is going to post along with me but he using his new charater p1rat bunny
p.s. goons and bob have fun dod crash the node to many times
OOOOOO! This is new to me. Please enlighten us as to BoB's further hypocracy.
EDIT - actually, no. If it's going to drag up drama for their in-game friends, I'd rather not. But I'd really like to know what BoB did and said if it is possible to do so without actually doing her friends harm. The hell with BoB's feelings.
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Pr1at Bunny
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:21:00 -
[127]
Originally by: Justor JeiGallo
Originally by: PSA1SWIPE
Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 27/07/2006 16:39:43
No.
This does not mean we will not shoot entities who share the agenda. This does not mean we will help you with your goals. It simply means...
Goodbye.
This is personal.
i know im a bit off topic but this has some relavance evol is mad bacause of what some one else brough from rl into the game any of You evol Remember Rockduiveltje eh Undertaker and Mephiste? You rember waht you were saying in local about her and her family.
dont get me wrong im not defending that goonie poerson i couldent give two craps about him but this seem a bit hiprocrital of them.
The clash is going to post along with me but he using his new charater p1rat bunny
p.s. goons and bob have fun dod crash the node to many times
OOOOOO! This is new to me. Please enlighten us as to BoB's further hypocracy.
I will not publish the words and ts recording again as it drove the player , a rl girl , away from the game due teh extreme insults and ts recording about her medical health condition .
RKK and EVOL never apoligized .
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Ismern
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:21:00 -
[128]
I love how everyone trolls and flames but when someone actually posts something rational it gets skipped over.
Why? Because you can't stand to face the truth.
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Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:22:00 -
[129]
Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN
Originally by: Heero Yuy Who cares about BoB's motives here. Goonswarm f***ed up royally and has shown zero class in this matter. Like others I never thought I'd say this, but needs must - Go BoB!
JESUS CHRIST WHAT PART OF "THIS WAS DRUDGED OUT OF A FOUR MONTH OLD POST ON OUR OWN FORUMS BY A SMUGASS BOB MEMBER" DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
You had 4 months to realize it was in poor taste and didn't kick the guy out until AFTER BoB found out and was offended?
No wonder they say it's too late. Sounds about 4 months too late to me. ----------
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Andre Carnegi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:22:00 -
[130]
Edited by: Andre Carnegi on 27/07/2006 19:22:39 Thanks to the magic of Internet Alchemy, BOB can turn hypothetical spaceships blowing up into a crusade for the decency of mankind.
That's so awesome. Considering that they like to harass women.
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Exioce
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:22:00 -
[131]
Originally by: Trepkos BoB's killboard will probably crash from the amount of kills.
maybe you should write a petition about it
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Pwadoc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:22:00 -
[132]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan I think GS are missing the point. BoB doesn't need a reason to go after you. If they want to go after you, they will. They are apparently not NAPing anyone else, they are just going straight after you and will kill anyone in their way to get to you.
Maybe you think it's stupid but what your former corpmate did was in poor taste. NEDM. Now, instead of just fighting D2 + friends with your friends, you gotta fight D2 + friends as well as BoB ... and if you're lucky, your friends will stick around and back you up (I wouldn't count on it for some of them).
Best chance you have is to go take the fight to them and show them that you are serious about not backing down and that you are just as determined as them. If you're lucky you may be able to get some amount of respect for it.
Other option is to go to NPC stations and never undock again until they get bored. Worked for other alliances in the past.
The issue here is not the fight this weekend. Win or lose, either way it's a game and it will be fun. This entire fiasco is inappropriate, insulting, and disgusting on all sides.
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Dyme
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:23:00 -
[133]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan I think GS are missing the point. BoB doesn't need a reason to go after you. If they want to go after you, they will. They are apparently not NAPing anyone else, they are just going straight after you and will kill anyone in their way to get to you.
Maybe you think it's stupid but what your former corpmate did was in poor taste. NEDM. Now, instead of just fighting D2 + friends with your friends, you gotta fight D2 + friends as well as BoB ... and if you're lucky, your friends will stick around and back you up (I wouldn't count on it for some of them).
Best chance you have is to go take the fight to them and show them that you are serious about not backing down and that you are just as determined as them. If you're lucky you may be able to get some amount of respect for it.
Other option is to go to NPC stations and never undock again until they get bored. Worked for other alliances in the past.
So they don't need a reason to come after us, yet they are constantly citing a reason that they are coming after us. SIR, I AM AFRAID THAT YOU HAVE CAUGHT ME IN YOUR LOGIC TRAP.
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Adalus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:23:00 -
[134]
Goons, you're missing the point. I know I'm from BoB/D2/D2 Vassal/pubbie corp, and I feel that my opinion on this matter is objective: someone from your board said something 4 months ago, and getting mad about it now is perfectly valid. I don't take the time to read threads before I post in them, so I thought I'd just through my 2 isk out there.
Of course, after the exchange rate, my 2 isk is worth a whole lot less than nothing.
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Stinkywrix
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:24:00 -
[135]
Originally by: Raivin To Molle and the rest of the peanut gallery,
Using the death of a human being to forward your agenda in a VIDEO GAME is every bit as ghoulish as some random stranger on the Internet making a tasteless joke out of it.
You're using real life tragedy to launch your e-ships. You're nothing but Internet toughguy scumbags deluding yourselves into thinking you're on some holy crusade in the name of a dead friend. You know why people make jokes like that? To get a rise out of holier-than-thou twits like you. What do you think, his family is going to thank you for defending his honor against faceless strangers from a computer game?
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
.
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Mandorin Chryllos
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:24:00 -
[136]
I am just gonna go ahead and keep playing a game where I just keep shooting at stuff in space. That okay with everyone? k cool.
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phlage
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:24:00 -
[137]
I'll be fighting this weekend against the people who think that it is cool to keep dredging up bad memories from the past and shoving it in front of parents and making them relive their grief while shouting "how does this make you feel?".
I don't think that is funny at all, and I refuse to take the responsibility for it that those people are trying to thrust on me.
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Eloryan Persago
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:24:00 -
[138]
I love this thread#
_________________________________________ Anything posted by this character does not represent Goonfleet and/or Goonswarm, anything said which may offend you was probably said because I meant it |

Andre Carnegi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:24:00 -
[139]
Originally by: Adalus Goons, you're missing the point. I know I'm from BoB/D2/D2 Vassal/pubbie corp, and I feel that my opinion on this matter is objective: someone from your board said something 4 months ago, and getting mad about it now is perfectly valid. I don't take the time to read threads before I post in them, so I thought I'd just through my 2 isk out there.
Of course, after the exchange rate, my 2 isk is worth a whole lot less than nothing.
Explain how blowing up internet ships is a good way to remember a dead person.
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Jholo Artei
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:24:00 -
[140]
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
Originally by: Justor JeiGallo
Originally by: PSA1SWIPE
Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 27/07/2006 16:39:43
No.
This does not mean we will not shoot entities who share the agenda. This does not mean we will help you with your goals. It simply means...
Goodbye.
This is personal.
i know im a bit off topic but this has some relavance evol is mad bacause of what some one else brough from rl into the game any of You evol Remember Rockduiveltje eh Undertaker and Mephiste? You rember waht you were saying in local about her and her family.
dont get me wrong im not defending that goonie poerson i couldent give two craps about him but this seem a bit hiprocrital of them.
The clash is going to post along with me but he using his new charater p1rat bunny
p.s. goons and bob have fun dod crash the node to many times
OOOOOO! This is new to me. Please enlighten us as to BoB's further hypocracy.
I will not publish the words and ts recording again as it drove the player , a rl girl , away from the game due teh extreme insults and ts recording about her medical health condition .
RKK and EVOL never apoligized .
That's awful. Funny how people like that can lecture Goonswarm about morals and ethics.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:33:00 -
[141]
Tbh, goons who are defending or trying to spin are ******* sick, rot in hell scumbag's. If you cannot see why so many people are ****ed of that such a sig would even exist then you are a ****, plain and simple. I didn't know the guy persoanlly but im upset and ****ed off that someone would ridicule and tarnish somone's memory like that, i'll laugh as you burn, count on it!
Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance |

Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:33:00 -
[142]
Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN
Originally by: Heero Yuy Who cares about BoB's motives here. Goonswarm f***ed up royally and has shown zero class in this matter. Like others I never thought I'd say this, but needs must - Go BoB!
JESUS CHRIST WHAT PART OF "THIS WAS DRUDGED OUT OF A FOUR MONTH OLD POST ON OUR OWN FORUMS BY A SMUGASS BOB MEMBER" DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
If Goonswarm had kicked him and humbly apologized AND NOTHING ELSE, it might have worked.
Thing is, you keep trying to justify yourselves, or argue the point.
There are some things that when you argue them, no matter what you say, even if you say TRUE things, you just dig yourself deeper. This is one of those things.
Every time you say ANYTHING other than "we screwed up", you only dig yourself deeper.
Play nice while you Butcher each other
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Turiya Flesharrower
Beagle Corp
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:34:00 -
[143]
Originally by: Mordan Vimes
Originally by: Blacklight
Nice attempt to turn things on their head. Accusing us of dragging a deceased friend's name through the mud is disgraceful after the way you lot carry on.
Don't care what you think or why you think we have decided to crush you, we are just going to do it, so you can quit your whining and prepare to die.
Whether it takes a month or a year Goonswarm are history.
It's a game. Earth to nerd: Game. Space game. Which you are playing.
And yes, you guys pulled up an old, old sig on a private forum and are acting offended and issuing threats. You are quite a package - offended nerds using their dead friend as a political causus belli.
I'm offended for his family, and I'm quite repulsed by your tactics - far more than I would have ever been offended if someone had mocked a dead friend of mine.
But it's all a repulsively used, conveniently inflammatory bloody shirt you're waving. You're actually going to war because some dude several months ago said something in his sig about an unfortunate death. After the fellow apologized to the offended party (directly to his dad), you are still going ahead.
You're a pack of liars and smarmy death-pimps. My sincere condolences to moby, but if you're "defending blarhghlargh honor" as justification for this pre-emptive attack, then you guys are worse than the guy who mocked the dead. You're dragging your friend's metaphorical corpse around to justify your actions at the most convenient and tactically advantageous time. That's being a death-pimp. That's low. And that's repulsive.
Looking forward to good fights! Can't wait gg! Smack free!
Oh wait. No. Here's hoping you end the day wiping snot and bitter tears of frustration off your face and crying into your brocaded pillows because of your emotionally unhealthy connection to an internet space game.
Bingo! -----
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Calisto Cody
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:35:00 -
[144]
go bob go
the SERIOUS lack of class displayed by the goon posters (most not all) is sickning
Originally by: Avernus
The demonstrated depth of your information denotes your true stature in Eve, that of a lackey; you are similar to a mushroom: kept in the dark and fed on a diet of ****.
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Ismern
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:35:00 -
[145]
Reposting for truth. It seems people love responding to the flames but no one is willing to face the truth.
"Ok, I tried to post this in another thread and it got pounded.
This is an honest and rational opinion about the situation. I hope that the forum mods don't see this as trolling and delete it.
I am a member of GoonSwarm, but I am not a goon in the sense of the term. I didn't come from the SA forums, I'm here because I wanted a fun corp to play this game in and a friend of mine sponsored me in.
As such, I don't tend to share the same sense of humor as most goons. While I do find much funny, and I do enjoy the company and comradery that I have enjoyed these past few months, there are some things that I find rather tasteless and tactless and this is most definitely one of those things. There should never be any disrespect for the dead.
That having been said, I do question BoB's motives right now. There are two reasons for an assault upon GS: BoB is threatened by the rise of another strong power nearby or personal vengeance.
The timing of this incident does seem to be a little convenient for D2 et al. If BoB truly does feel threatened by the uprising of a large force right on their doorstep, then they should treat it as such. To use this as a false pretense for war is, in my opinion, just plain disgusting.
If this is in fact 100% about the passing away of a dear friend of the EVE community and the subsequential tasteless remarks made by a certain (or perhaps few) GoonSwarm members then that is truly just ridiculous. Yes, everyone should be made to be held accountable for their actions, but to become angry and swear for the ultimate destruction of an entire alliance for personal vindication, well, that my friends is quite possibly one of the most childish actions you can find in this game. If this truly is the reason for BoB deciding to attack GS, then all notions of BoB being high and righteous go out the window. If I were in the position of someone insulting a deceased personal friend of mine, I would be furious. But would I swear vengeance? No. I have more tact than that. I do not need to stoop to the level of immaturity of those who made the comment.
If you want to come fight us because this is war and you need to maintain power then fine. Come fight us. That is what this game is about and I will welcome the fight. But if you choose to come fight us for this pretense, well, then I will lose all respect I had for BoB."
----------------------------------------------------------- "It's not that I'm lazy . . . It's that I just don't care." |

Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:36:00 -
[146]
Don't even bother trying to defend yourself, goons. The BoB legion of forum talking heads (and all the D2/RISE/Contraband/BRS bandwagoners along with all the other lame has-been corps that hate us) arn't going to be convinced, this is just an excuse for them to inflate their killboard count some more.
Let 'em come, they'll get tired of ganking T1 frigates, shuttles, and indies eventually and go away.
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Pwadoc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:36:00 -
[147]
Originally by: fire 59 Tbh, goons who are defending or trying to spin are ******* sick, rot in hell scumbag's. If you cannot see why so many people are ****ed of that such a sig would even exist then you are a ****, plain and simple. I didn't know the guy persoanlly but im upset and ****ed off that someone would ridicule and tarnish somone's memory like that, i'll laugh as you burn, count on it!
So get ****ed off at the guy, and stop calling me, who is completely uninvolved, a sick ****, telling me to rot in hell, and hoping I burn. What are you, some kind of psycho?
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Justor JeiGallo
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:36:00 -
[148]
Originally by: Eximius Josari It sounds to me like OHGOD is a touch afraid, and given that the only common medium anyone has to express feelings about things related to Eve is through Eve, I don't see why this should be a bad way to handle it. Sure you could kiss Molle's ass irl to see if you can make him not give your dentist a lot of extra work, but the 'joke that launched a thousand ships' is about to give meaning to the term 'risk vs reward'.
Ha, go have a spy check our forums. If anything, this whole debacle has raised our morale and our collective bloodpressures a thousandfold. GS is HOT for BoB internet blood at this point, even moreso than D2 and pals at this point. I haven't seen goons this riled up for action since I joined, or in any other online game for that matter.
I have a feeling that it's not just GS that opened up the proverbial can of worms...
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Khyad Halda
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:36:00 -
[149]
Hey guys, I'd like to fight in this war (it sounds like it will be a lot of carefree fun) but someone insulted my WOW guild leader's dead stepbrother and now I have a very serious personal vendetta against his entire guild.
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Giganticus
Jita Highway Patrol
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:37:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN
Originally by: Heero Yuy Who cares about BoB's motives here. Goonswarm f***ed up royally and has shown zero class in this matter. Like others I never thought I'd say this, but needs must - Go BoB!
JESUS CHRIST WHAT PART OF "THIS WAS DRUDGED OUT OF A FOUR MONTH OLD POST ON OUR OWN FORUMS BY A SMUGASS BOB MEMBER" DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?
If Goonswarm had kicked him and humbly apologized AND NOTHING ELSE, it might have worked.
You mean, if they did what they actually did? Because that's exactly what they did, and they've done that already.
----------------------------------- lols |

Andre Carnegi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:37:00 -
[151]
Originally by: fire 59 Tbh, goons who are defending or trying to spin are ******* sick, rot in hell scumbag's. If you cannot see why so many people are ****ed of that such a sig would even exist then you are a ****, plain and simple. I didn't know the guy persoanlly but im upset and ****ed off that someone would ridicule and tarnish somone's memory like that, i'll laugh as you burn, count on it!
So what do blown-up spaceships do for the memory of the guy you didn't know?
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:37:00 -
[152]
Originally by: Calisto Cody go bob go
the SERIOUS lack of class displayed by the goon posters (most not all) is sickning
translation: waaah waah goons arn't sucking up to people with 20 million more skill points than them waah waaaah
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Anti Derivative
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:37:00 -
[153]
Originally by: fire 59 Tbh, goons who are defending or trying to spin are ******* sick, rot in hell scumbag's. If you cannot see why so many people are ****ed of that such a sig would even exist then you are a ****, plain and simple. I didn't know the guy persoanlly but im upset and ****ed off that someone would ridicule and tarnish somone's memory like that, i'll laugh as you burn, count on it!
who is defending the sig?
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Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:37:00 -
[154]
LOL... I can't respond to everyone individually, so I'll say this. How long have you guys been playing Eve and watching what BoB does again??
Also, why would kicking someone that made an offensive joke -- 4 months later and only after some other alliance got offended -- make a good apology? It doesn't look like you kicked him out of decency but rather because you didn't want BoB to attack you. Kudos to them for seeing the difference.
If you think making fun of someone who died is acceptable, fine, whatever. It's tasteless and it'll offend someone. I'm all for free speech. You want to say/print it? Go ahead. Just be prepared to deal with the consequences of your words.
Sounds to me like you guys don't think it's a big deal, but don't want to deal with the consequences of ****ing off someone else that did take it personally. ----------
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nicnivin
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:38:00 -
[155]
Define Terrorist: One who utilizes the systematic use of violence and intimidation to achieve political objectives.
Define Bigot: A bigot is a prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from their own.
Defind Prejudice: A judgment or opinion formed before the facts are known. In most cases, these opinions are founded on suspicion, intolerance, and the irrational hatred of other races, religions, creeds, or nationalities.
Define overreaction: An excessive reaction; a reaction with inappropriate emotional behavior.
I will probably be fined for this, but some people here are being a bit ridiculous for an internet spaceship game that most of the goons play for fun. Most Goons had nothing to do with whatever it is you're angry about. Bully the people who didn't do anything to you, and you are going to be seen for what you are, not some sort of video game moral hero.
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Pr1at Bunny
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:38:00 -
[156]
Originally by: Berrik Radhok Don't even bother trying to defend yourself, goons. The BoB legion of forum talking heads (and all the D2/RISE/Contraband/BRS bandwagoners along with all the other lame has-been corps that hate us) arn't going to be convinced, this is just an excuse for them to inflate their killboard count some more.
Let 'em come, they'll get tired of ganking T1 frigates, shuttles, and indies eventually and go away.
Some of D2 actually know and witnissed the "incident : Rockduiveltje" .
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Aemilia Clementina
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:38:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Calisto Cody go bob go
the SERIOUS lack of class displayed by the goon posters (most not all) is sickning
Yeah god forbid we don't take an internet game where we shoot at each others internet spaceships seriously. Real Life is serious enough, games are for having fun.
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Sochin
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:38:00 -
[158]
OKAY WE GET IT.
GoonSwarm is acting very indignent about this whole sitation and is trying to flip things around by accusing us of somehow "dragging our friend's corpse through the mud" by pledging to destroy the organization that has made a running joke out of denigrating his memory. All the Goons will now act very upset and accuss us of being hypocrites.
THANK YOU, WE UNDERSTAND REMEDIAL'S POSITION. THERE IS NO NEED TO HAVE EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF YOUR ALLIANCE POST IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.
For that matter, we also understand that many other Goons really like the phrase "E-honor" and somehow think that if they repeat this enough we will seem like nerds who are to involved with the internet. Everyone on this forum pays CCP to play this game, but at least we didn't pay some idiot for permission to post in the cesspool that is SomethingAwful forums.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Itzena
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:39:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Raivin To Molle and the rest of the peanut gallery,
Using the death of a human being to forward your agenda in a VIDEO GAME is every bit as ghoulish as some random stranger on the Internet making a tasteless joke out of it.
You're using real life tragedy to launch your e-ships. You're nothing but Internet toughguy scumbags deluding yourselves into thinking you're on some holy crusade in the name of a dead friend. You know why people make jokes like that? To get a rise out of holier-than-thou twits like you. What do you think, his family is going to thank you for defending his honor against faceless strangers from a computer game?
You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Holy ****, it's Raivin. 
Also: This is true. -- I want my people to reclaim their rightful place in the galaxy... I want a rebirth of glory, a renaissance of power... I want us to be what we used to be. |

Khyad Halda
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:39:00 -
[160]
Originally by: Sochin OKAY WE GET IT.
GoonSwarm is acting very indignent about this whole sitation and is trying to flip things around by accusing us of somehow "dragging our friend's corpse through the mud" by pledging to destroy the organization that has made a running joke out of denigrating his memory. All the Goons will now act very upset and accuss us of being hypocrites.
THANK YOU, WE UNDERSTAND REMEDIAL'S POSITION. THERE IS NO NEED TO HAVE EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF YOUR ALLIANCE POST IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.
For that matter, we also understand that many other Goons really like the phrase "E-honor" and somehow think that if they repeat this enough we will seem like nerds who are to involved with the internet. Everyone on this forum pays CCP to play this game, but at least we didn't pay some idiot for permission to post in the cesspool that is SomethingAwful forums.
sir you have insulted my e-honor
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:40:00 -
[161]
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
Originally by: Berrik Radhok Don't even bother trying to defend yourself, goons. The BoB legion of forum talking heads (and all the D2/RISE/Contraband/BRS bandwagoners along with all the other lame has-been corps that hate us) arn't going to be convinced, this is just an excuse for them to inflate their killboard count some more.
Let 'em come, they'll get tired of ganking T1 frigates, shuttles, and indies eventually and go away.
Some of D2 actually know and witnissed the "incident : Rockduiveltje" .
No real suprise there. D2 is pretty a giant conglomeration of failed corporations and alliances from all over EVE, so they have members from every corner of the galaxy.
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Calisto Cody
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:40:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Originally by: Calisto Cody go bob go
the SERIOUS lack of class displayed by the goon posters (most not all) is sickning
translation: waaah waah goons arn't sucking up to people with 20 million more skill points than them waah waaaah
i dont suck up ethier lil boy
Originally by: Avernus
The demonstrated depth of your information denotes your true stature in Eve, that of a lackey; you are similar to a mushroom: kept in the dark and fed on a diet of ****.
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Anti Derivative
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:40:00 -
[163]
Originally by: Sochin OKAY WE GET IT.
GoonSwarm is acting very indignent about this whole sitation and is trying to flip things around by accusing us of somehow "dragging our friend's corpse through the mud" by pledging to destroy the organization that has made a running joke out of denigrating his memory. All the Goons will now act very upset and accuss us of being hypocrites.
Recapping our stance using condecending and heavily spun verbiage doesn't invalidate it.
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:40:00 -
[164]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan LOL... I can't respond to everyone individually, so I'll say this. How long have you guys been playing Eve and watching what BoB does again??
Also, why would kicking someone that made an offensive joke -- 4 months later and only after some other alliance got offended -- make a good apology? It doesn't look like you kicked him out of decency but rather because you didn't want BoB to attack you. Kudos to them for seeing the difference.
If you think making fun of someone who died is acceptable, fine, whatever. It's tasteless and it'll offend someone. I'm all for free speech. You want to say/print it? Go ahead. Just be prepared to deal with the consequences of your words.
Sounds to me like you guys don't think it's a big deal, but don't want to deal with the consequences of ****ing off someone else that did take it personally.
How the HELL could anyone have possibly known that a joke TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT would be seen? Oh, it's on a private forum. It's not like we flew into BoB's space dragging his corpses behind a tractor beamed Tempest saying "LOLOLOLOL".
The guy is gone, we apologized, BoB still wanted to make a big deal of it.
We don't care.
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portriat
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:41:00 -
[165]
Just kill off GS and take away their space and be done with it please.
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portriat
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:41:00 -
[166]
Just kill off GS and take away their space and be done with it please.
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Imode
Band of Builders Inc. Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:41:00 -
[167]
The greatest part about this conflict will be the forum war with BoB's potent posting abilities pitted against the Something Awful community... ____________________________
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Andre Carnegi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:41:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Khyad Halda
Originally by: Sochin OKAY WE GET IT.
GoonSwarm is acting very indignent about this whole sitation and is trying to flip things around by accusing us of somehow "dragging our friend's corpse through the mud" by pledging to destroy the organization that has made a running joke out of denigrating his memory. All the Goons will now act very upset and accuss us of being hypocrites.
THANK YOU, WE UNDERSTAND REMEDIAL'S POSITION. THERE IS NO NEED TO HAVE EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF YOUR ALLIANCE POST IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.
For that matter, we also understand that many other Goons really like the phrase "E-honor" and somehow think that if they repeat this enough we will seem like nerds who are to involved with the internet. Everyone on this forum pays CCP to play this game, but at least we didn't pay some idiot for permission to post in the cesspool that is SomethingAwful forums.
sir you have insulted my e-honor
not my e-honor
Hey if I have a clinical condition will BoB relentless mock it and my family because that would be great.
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:41:00 -
[169]
Originally by: Calisto Cody
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Originally by: Calisto Cody go bob go
the SERIOUS lack of class displayed by the goon posters (most not all) is sickning
translation: waaah waah goons arn't sucking up to people with 20 million more skill points than them waah waaaah
i dont suck up ethier lil boy
What makes you think I'm either little or a boy?
From your manner of speech, I suspect you're someone who's been playing the game for a number of years and think this entitles you to respect from people who have played the game less time than you.
pfffffbt
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:41:00 -
[170]
Originally by: Sochin OKAY WE GET IT.
For that matter, we also understand that many other Goons really like the phrase "E-honor" and somehow think that if they repeat this enough we will seem like nerds who are to involved with the internet. Everyone on this forum pays CCP to play this game, but at least we didn't pay some idiot for permission to post in the cesspool that is SomethingAwful forums.
You should google for tribute.wmv. Something Awful made that too.
Also, stop taking life so serious, E-Warrior.
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Moghydin
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:41:00 -
[171]
I was expecting this. It looks like BoB wants to prove to everyone that the new political powers can not be created and they already won Eve, or may be the Goons can become a threat when those new regions will be opened. Anyway, if BoB will succeed, expect more of their posts with "OMG why no one gives us a challenge?" staff.
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Pwadoc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:41:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Sochin OKAY WE GET IT.
GoonSwarm is acting very indignent about this whole sitation and is trying to flip things around by accusing us of somehow "dragging our friend's corpse through the mud" by pledging to destroy the organization that has made a running joke out of denigrating his memory. All the Goons will now act very upset and accuss us of being hypocrites.
THANK YOU, WE UNDERSTAND REMEDIAL'S POSITION. THERE IS NO NEED TO HAVE EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF YOUR ALLIANCE POST IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.
For that matter, we also understand that many other Goons really like the phrase "E-honor" and somehow think that if they repeat this enough we will seem like nerds who are to involved with the internet. Everyone on this forum pays CCP to play this game, but at least we didn't pay some idiot for permission to post in the cesspool that is SomethingAwful forums.
No, you obviously don't get it. You personally insulted a large number of people who did absolutely nothing to you. I never mocked anyone's death, condoned the mocking of anyone's death, or tried to make anyone affected by that death feel bad, and BoB members have implictly accused me of all three int he past few hours.
You owe me a ******* apology, and you all need to back off.
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Syndic Mitth'raw'nuruodo
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:41:00 -
[173]
Originally by: Andre Carnegi
So what do blown-up spaceships do for the memory of the guy you didn't know?
What more could possibly be said after this?
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insolace
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:42:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Wrayeth If BoB bring out the titan they're rumored to have produced, I would expect yes (i.e. Goons instapopped).
Please do this, I have dozens of fitted frigates ready to be exploded against a titan, and plenty of minerals to make hundreds more. The burden of having the first Titan in eve is that you can't be on the killmail of the first Titan in eve.
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FATE LOL
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:42:00 -
[175]
You know what makes me sick.
Smoske isn't dead. He never died.
The guy who played Smoske died. His name was Vincent van Weert.
You people should be ashamed of yourselves, using a dead person to always have a trump card. Not once have I heard anyone badmouth Vincent van Weert.
He's the one that died, not Smoske.
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Noghri ViR
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:42:00 -
[176]
See you guys just don't understand us. When we see lemonparty or goatse.cx we don't turn our heads away from the montior and puke in discust. We sit there and LOL at it. We just see things a lot differently then you guys do.
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ParMizaN
Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:42:00 -
[177]
Tough luck goons.
sig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris |

Raivin
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:43:00 -
[178]
Originally by: Sochin OKAY WE GET IT.
GoonSwarm is acting very indignent about this whole sitation and is trying to flip things around by accusing us of somehow "dragging our friend's corpse through the mud" by pledging to destroy the organization that has made a running joke out of denigrating his memory. All the Goons will now act very upset and accuss us of being hypocrites.
THANK YOU, WE UNDERSTAND REMEDIAL'S POSITION. THERE IS NO NEED TO HAVE EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF YOUR ALLIANCE POST IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.
For that matter, we also understand that many other Goons really like the phrase "E-honor" and somehow think that if they repeat this enough we will seem like nerds who are to involved with the internet. Everyone on this forum pays CCP to play this game, but at least we didn't pay some idiot for permission to post in the cesspool that is SomethingAwful forums.
Could you repeat that a bit louder please? I couldn't hear you over the sound of all the Eve-O forum nuthuggers crying out their moral indignation without actually reading our posts. Your forum warriors repeat the same talking points ad nauseam, why shouldn't we respond in kind?
Rabble rabble sheep. Rabble rabble.
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Calisto Cody
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:43:00 -
[179]
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Originally by: Calisto Cody
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Originally by: Calisto Cody go bob go
the SERIOUS lack of class displayed by the goon posters (most not all) is sickning
translation: waaah waah goons arn't sucking up to people with 20 million more skill points than them waah waaaah
i dont suck up ethier lil boy
What makes you think I'm either little or a boy?
From your manner of speech, I suspect you're someone who's been playing the game for a number of years and think this entitles you to respect from people who have played the game less time than you.
pfffffbt
respect is earned, people have mine, i have theres, you are in the minus camp
Originally by: Avernus
The demonstrated depth of your information denotes your true stature in Eve, that of a lackey; you are similar to a mushroom: kept in the dark and fed on a diet of ****.
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Andre Carnegi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:44:00 -
[180]
Originally by: portriat Just kill off GS and take away their space and be done with it please.
Why? What does killing GS do for Smoske?
What on earth do a bunch of pixels on a screen have anything to do with a guy some people liked?
Should the newer users be forced to remember him as "the guy who's death got GS wardecced by BoB"?
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:44:00 -
[181]
Originally by: FATE LOL You know what makes me sick.
Smoske isn't dead. He never died.
The guy who played Smoske died. His name was Vincent van Weert.
You people should be ashamed of yourselves, using a dead person to always have a trump card. Not once have I heard anyone badmouth Vincent van Weert.
He's the one that died, not Smoske.
What people don't understand is Tet's sig related to people ( including him ) being TIRED of the Smokse jokes. But hey, lets crucify Goonfleet and use whatever excuse we can find!
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:44:00 -
[182]
Originally by: Wrayeth Well, I don't know about the premise for the war--I refuse to speculate, either way--but this ought to be an "interesting" fight to watch, nonetheless. It'll be interesting to see if BoB's superior quality can overcome Goonswarm's superior quantity.
If BoB bring out the titan they're rumored to have produced, I would expect yes (i.e. Goons instapopped). If they don't, then there may be some real fights going on.
In any case, if BoB's going for all out war, it'd be nice to see them actually USE the motherships they won instead of letting them gather mothballs.
At this time motherships cannot be remote repped, until such time as they can (as our capital ships come in to the frontline and don't just sit at a pos for hours on end) they will remain packaged, thanks.
@Bushido Zin - your post wasn't as funny as the one I quoted, please try harder.
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Raivin
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:45:00 -
[183]
Originally by: Itzena You should be ashamed of yourselves.
Holy ****, it's Raivin. 
Also: This is true.
Oh snap.
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fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:45:00 -
[184]
Originally by: Pwadoc
Originally by: fire 59 Tbh, goons who are defending or trying to spin are ******* sick, rot in hell scumbag's. If you cannot see why so many people are ****ed of that such a sig would even exist then you are a ****, plain and simple. I didn't know the guy persoanlly but im upset and ****ed off that someone would ridicule and tarnish somone's memory like that, i'll laugh as you burn, count on it!
So get ****ed off at the guy, and stop calling me, who is completely uninvolved, a sick ****, telling me to rot in hell, and hoping I burn. What are you, some kind of psycho?
Wtf are you on about you moron, if you defended the sick ****s who said what they said, you are ******* involved, read a book, save a school
Iron and G eat babie's , my views are my own, they do not refect my corp or my alliance |

Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:46:00 -
[185]
Originally by: Homicidalnun
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan LOL... I can't respond to everyone individually, so I'll say this. How long have you guys been playing Eve and watching what BoB does again??
Also, why would kicking someone that made an offensive joke -- 4 months later and only after some other alliance got offended -- make a good apology? It doesn't look like you kicked him out of decency but rather because you didn't want BoB to attack you. Kudos to them for seeing the difference.
If you think making fun of someone who died is acceptable, fine, whatever. It's tasteless and it'll offend someone. I'm all for free speech. You want to say/print it? Go ahead. Just be prepared to deal with the consequences of your words.
Sounds to me like you guys don't think it's a big deal, but don't want to deal with the consequences of ****ing off someone else that did take it personally.
How the HELL could anyone have possibly known that a joke TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT would be seen? Oh, it's on a private forum. It's not like we flew into BoB's space dragging his corpses behind a tractor beamed Tempest saying "LOLOLOLOL".
The guy is gone, we apologized, BoB still wanted to make a big deal of it.
We don't care.
You'd think GS would know the importance of not putting anything embarassing into a permenant, reproduceable media after posting chatlogs from D2 just a few days ago.
Btw how was that joke out of context anyway? ----------
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Anti Derivative
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:46:00 -
[186]
if BoB and Goonswarm had a baby, it would be BoobSwarm. I would totally join it.
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Degaal Valen
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:46:00 -
[187]
Why didn't this declaration of 'ending goons' not happen months ago if everyone is being so chivalrous?
The timing and deliberate rehashing of a long dead topic makes this whole thing pretty obvious.
Just declare you're coming to get us because Goonswarm is a threat since D2 couldn't handle us despite our lack of T2 ships, etc, don't hide behind some supposed noble interests.
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Aeaon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:46:00 -
[188]
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
I will not publish the words and ts recording again as it drove the player , a rl girl , away from the game due teh extreme insults and ts recording about her medical health condition .
RKK and EVOL never apoligized .
Patently awaiting answer
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:47:00 -
[189]
Originally by: Aeaon
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
I will not publish the words and ts recording again as it drove the player , a rl girl , away from the game due teh extreme insults and ts recording about her medical health condition .
RKK and EVOL never apoligized .
Patently awaiting answer
quotin' dis
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:47:00 -
[190]
Originally by: fire 59
Originally by: Pwadoc
Originally by: fire 59 Tbh, goons who are defending or trying to spin are ******* sick, rot in hell scumbag's. If you cannot see why so many people are ****ed of that such a sig would even exist then you are a ****, plain and simple. I didn't know the guy persoanlly but im upset and ****ed off that someone would ridicule and tarnish somone's memory like that, i'll laugh as you burn, count on it!
So get ****ed off at the guy, and stop calling me, who is completely uninvolved, a sick ****, telling me to rot in hell, and hoping I burn. What are you, some kind of psycho?
Wtf are you on about you moron, if you defended the sick ****s who said what they said, you are ******* involved, read a book, save a school
Here is an idea. Leave Smoskse buried. Stop bringing it up. If you want an excuse to war dec us, you don't need one, but stop this.
Either fight us, or shut up and let us kill D-2. I don't even care if you do kill us, but let us kill them first.
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FATE LOL
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:48:00 -
[191]
Originally by: Aeaon
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
I will not publish the words and ts recording again as it drove the player , a rl girl , away from the game due teh extreme insults and ts recording about her medical health condition .
RKK and EVOL never apoligized .
Patently awaiting answer
I'd like to see what they have to say. I mean that's just wrong.
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Andre Carnegi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:48:00 -
[192]
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Originally by: Aeaon
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
I will not publish the words and ts recording again as it drove the player , a rl girl , away from the game due teh extreme insults and ts recording about her medical health condition .
RKK and EVOL never apoligized .
Patently awaiting answer
quotin' dis
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The Mittani
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:48:00 -
[193]
The self-righteous hypocrisy SirMolle and his apologists are demonstrating is laffo.
Beep beep, my memory is being used shallow excuse for a banal act of realpolitik!
Yeah, Tetsujin's sig has been on our public area for 9 months now, and BoB only just now discovers it and gets all ****ed about Smoske, when in practically every other thread involving us someone has to drag up this poor sap's memory and try to use it as propoganda.
Pathetic.
Goodbye!
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Jingu Himiko
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:48:00 -
[194]
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Originally by: Aeaon
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
I will not publish the words and ts recording again as it drove the player , a rl girl , away from the game due teh extreme insults and ts recording about her medical health condition .
RKK and EVOL never apoligized .
Patently awaiting answer
quotin' dis
quoting for great justice
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Vibius
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:48:00 -
[195]
Originally by: Pwadoc
Originally by: Sochin OKAY WE GET IT.
GoonSwarm is acting very indignent about this whole sitation and is trying to flip things around by accusing us of somehow "dragging our friend's corpse through the mud" by pledging to destroy the organization that has made a running joke out of denigrating his memory. All the Goons will now act very upset and accuss us of being hypocrites.
THANK YOU, WE UNDERSTAND REMEDIAL'S POSITION. THERE IS NO NEED TO HAVE EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF YOUR ALLIANCE POST IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.
For that matter, we also understand that many other Goons really like the phrase "E-honor" and somehow think that if they repeat this enough we will seem like nerds who are to involved with the internet. Everyone on this forum pays CCP to play this game, but at least we didn't pay some idiot for permission to post in the cesspool that is SomethingAwful forums.
No, you obviously don't get it. You personally insulted a large number of people who did absolutely nothing to you. I never mocked anyone's death, condoned the mocking of anyone's death, or tried to make anyone affected by that death feel bad, and BoB members have implictly accused me of all three int he past few hours.
You owe me a ******* apology, and you all need to back off.
I want an apology too.
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:48:00 -
[196]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Homicidalnun
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan LOL... I can't respond to everyone individually, so I'll say this. How long have you guys been playing Eve and watching what BoB does again??
Also, why would kicking someone that made an offensive joke -- 4 months later and only after some other alliance got offended -- make a good apology? It doesn't look like you kicked him out of decency but rather because you didn't want BoB to attack you. Kudos to them for seeing the difference.
If you think making fun of someone who died is acceptable, fine, whatever. It's tasteless and it'll offend someone. I'm all for free speech. You want to say/print it? Go ahead. Just be prepared to deal with the consequences of your words.
Sounds to me like you guys don't think it's a big deal, but don't want to deal with the consequences of ****ing off someone else that did take it personally.
How the HELL could anyone have possibly known that a joke TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT would be seen? Oh, it's on a private forum. It's not like we flew into BoB's space dragging his corpses behind a tractor beamed Tempest saying "LOLOLOLOL".
The guy is gone, we apologized, BoB still wanted to make a big deal of it.
We don't care.
You'd think GS would know the importance of not putting anything embarassing into a permenant, reproduceable media after posting chatlogs from D2 just a few days ago.
Btw how was that joke out of context anyway?
Because the actions of a few people = ! THE FLEET!
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:49:00 -
[197]
Originally by: Pwadoc No, you obviously don't get it. You personally insulted a large number of people who did absolutely nothing to you. I never mocked anyone's death, condoned the mocking of anyone's death, or tried to make anyone affected by that death feel bad, and BoB members have implictly accused me of all three int he past few hours.
You owe me a ******* apology, and you all need to back off.
This "point" of humour, the death of someone that played this game, that YOU guys use in WHATEVER form is one that this community has found, overall, to be in bad taste. This community has made it known we don't like it. This community has made it known that we don't appreciate it.
YOU guys still want to be part of this community, which we think is great. What you guys ALSO think, which isn't so great, is that we should all adhere to your own value judgements and code of humour. Let me tell you that when you play eve you don't just play eve, on the eve forums. This is a VIRTUAL REALITY, and everyone wants the advantage - the biggest advantage coming from learning about how people are IRL.
If that signature had been used in a non-eve related forum I doubt there would be this kind of uproar, but it was. Yet you stand there putting on the "we are innocent, we are goonies" card and it just makes people laugh louder AT you. You guys really do need to learn to get on with other forum users if you're gonna get the full enjoyment out of eve.
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Cvuos
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:49:00 -
[198]
Originally by: Sochin
GoonSwarm is acting very indignent about this whole sitation and is trying to flip things around by accusing us of somehow "dragging our friend's corpse through the mud" by pledging to destroy the organization that has made a running joke out of denigrating his memory.
While this may be surprising to you, I never heard of the sig until SirMolle brought it up, barely visible between his monkey arms beating his e-chest. And I read the Goonfleet forums a lot.
The joke was used a lot to mock Remedial for the hard time he got in the chat incident that is constantly mentioned whenever someone has an axe to grind. Obviously, the axe that was there all along finally gets its turn.
D2 stuck to game mechanics. BoB needed a bloody shirt to wave. Thinking too much about honor in an internet game is not a good thing.
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Max Teranous
Shinra Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:49:00 -
[199]
Good luck BoB - not that you need it.
Max 
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Floppy Disk
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:50:00 -
[200]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Wrayeth (as our capital ships come in to the frontline and don't just sit at a pos for hours on end)
Everything else aside, I believe you, and that is why goons are excited rather than afraid. You guys don't understand us. Losing ships is not a negative thing for us. If we had to throw billionsin frigates to be the first to kill a mothership we'd do it. We're so tired of fighting D2, who after losing more than 12 dreads finally just gave up fighting us and started massively spamming POSs.
I'll say it in every thread. D2 is so incredibly weak right now I would almost declare it open season on their space. They got bogged down in CR by US??
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Trepkos
Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:50:00 -
[201]
In late 2005, Lowtax sent numerous requests via email to have Eric Bauman remove content he believed to be rebranded from the eBaum's World site. After these requests failed, Lowtax asked forum members who claimed to have produced content rebranded by eBaum's to invade the eBaum's World forums in order to personally request that their content be removed, flooding the EBW forum and crashing their system.
Heh, you guys really need to get new tactics.
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Pwadoc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:51:00 -
[202]
Originally by: fire 59
Wtf are you on about you moron, if you defended the sick ****s who said what they said, you are ******* involved, read a book, save a school
I never defended anything, I never did anything. But now I'm a moron as well as a sick ****?
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tyrol
E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:51:00 -
[203]
well, i neither know the person with the questionable sig, nor have i seen it. I didn't know the person who died, but neither of that is relevant. From an outsiders respective all i see is bad form from bob. Not only have you dragged real life into a game your using it as an excuse to wage war. It could have been dealt with out of game, which from my understanding is where it started and left it at that. Also the fact you delayed your response takes all credibility from your cause. I'm rooting for the goons
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Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:51:00 -
[204]
Originally by: Homicidalnun
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Homicidalnun
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan LOL... I can't respond to everyone individually, so I'll say this. How long have you guys been playing Eve and watching what BoB does again??
Also, why would kicking someone that made an offensive joke -- 4 months later and only after some other alliance got offended -- make a good apology? It doesn't look like you kicked him out of decency but rather because you didn't want BoB to attack you. Kudos to them for seeing the difference.
If you think making fun of someone who died is acceptable, fine, whatever. It's tasteless and it'll offend someone. I'm all for free speech. You want to say/print it? Go ahead. Just be prepared to deal with the consequences of your words.
Sounds to me like you guys don't think it's a big deal, but don't want to deal with the consequences of ****ing off someone else that did take it personally.
How the HELL could anyone have possibly known that a joke TAKEN OUT OF CONTEXT would be seen? Oh, it's on a private forum. It's not like we flew into BoB's space dragging his corpses behind a tractor beamed Tempest saying "LOLOLOLOL".
The guy is gone, we apologized, BoB still wanted to make a big deal of it.
We don't care.
You'd think GS would know the importance of not putting anything embarassing into a permenant, reproduceable media after posting chatlogs from D2 just a few days ago.
Btw how was that joke out of context anyway?
Because the actions of a few people = ! THE FLEET!
Okay. So why kick him AFTER BoB gets upset instead of months ago? Understand why they may not care that you did it now only after you were all threatened, not because it was offensive and in poor taste?
The guy said what he did, you guys stood by and did nothing. Who cares? Live with the consequences and stop complaining about them. ----------
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BuSHiDo ZiN
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:52:00 -
[205]
Originally by: Sochin OKAY WE GET IT.
GoonSwarm is acting very indignent about this whole sitation and is trying to flip things around by accusing us of somehow "dragging our friend's corpse through the mud" by pledging to destroy the organization that has made a running joke out of denigrating his memory. All the Goons will now act very upset and accuss us of being hypocrites.
THANK YOU, WE UNDERSTAND REMEDIAL'S POSITION. THERE IS NO NEED TO HAVE EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF YOUR ALLIANCE POST IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.
For that matter, we also understand that many other Goons really like the phrase "E-honor" and somehow think that if they repeat this enough we will seem like nerds who are to involved with the internet. Everyone on this forum pays CCP to play this game, but at least we didn't pay some idiot for permission to post in the cesspool that is SomethingAwful forums.
You know those retarded Chuck Norris jokes that you got tired of a couple months back but prior to that they were the pinnacle of hilarity? Guess what.
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Jholo Artei
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:52:00 -
[206]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Pwadoc No, you obviously don't get it. You personally insulted a large number of people who did absolutely nothing to you. I never mocked anyone's death, condoned the mocking of anyone's death, or tried to make anyone affected by that death feel bad, and BoB members have implictly accused me of all three int he past few hours.
You owe me a ******* apology, and you all need to back off.
This "point" of humour, the death of someone that played this game, that YOU guys use in WHATEVER form is one that this community has found, overall, to be in bad taste. This community has made it known we don't like it. This community has made it known that we don't appreciate it.
YOU guys still want to be part of this community, which we think is great. What you guys ALSO think, which isn't so great, is that we should all adhere to your own value judgements and code of humour. Let me tell you that when you play eve you don't just play eve, on the eve forums. This is a VIRTUAL REALITY, and everyone wants the advantage - the biggest advantage coming from learning about how people are IRL.
If that signature had been used in a non-eve related forum I doubt there would be this kind of uproar, but it was. Yet you stand there putting on the "we are innocent, we are goonies" card and it just makes people laugh louder AT you. You guys really do need to learn to get on with other forum users if you're gonna get the full enjoyment out of eve.
None of that means that me or thousands of other people make fun of such a tragedy. Don't confuse not being able to post with not wanting to post. If you're going to wardec us, go nuts, but don't do it because of the silly actions of one guy.
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Sir Tificate
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:52:00 -
[207]
Edited by: Sir Tificate on 27/07/2006 19:53:28 Edited by: Sir Tificate on 27/07/2006 19:52:36 Oh and just to clear something up Tetsujin is having his roles restored and everything.
EDIT: He's the guy with the sig in question.
EDIT 2: So stop saying we kicked him
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:52:00 -
[208]
I played a game called "Mankind" before playing Eve.
Character counts
In Mankind, there was low life sub-human named "Severed Wind", who did things like crudely joke about the dead crew from the space shuttle crash the same day that it happened.
Character counts
To this day, Severed Wind is on my **** list (and a lot of other folks too).
Character counts
And Characters counts BEYOND game AND in game.
Incredible displays of poor character are "correctly" NOT treated as part of the game. They are also NOT ignored in game. DEAL WITH IT.
In Mankind I was in the @ Alliance. One of our mortal enemies was Mordor. There were days when I'd be fuming mad at Mordor. Today a number of my best friends in BNC and BNC.E are former Mordor members from Mankind. We both played a game and blasted each other, but nothing that warrented a grudge past that game.
With "Severed Wind" (or the insult in question here in this game) it is different. It goes beyond the game.
Character counts.
As for the whiners, go ahead and dispute this, you'll just dig yourselves deeper, even if you say true things.
Play nice while you Butcher each other
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mynnna
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:52:00 -
[209]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan I think GS are missing the point. BoB doesn't need a reason to go after you. If they want to go after you, they will. They are apparently not NAPing anyone else, they are just going straight after you and will kill anyone in their way to get to you.
Maybe you think it's stupid but what your former corpmate did was in poor taste. NEDM. Now, instead of just fighting D2 + friends with your friends, you gotta fight D2 + friends as well as BoB ... and if you're lucky, your friends will stick around and back you up (I wouldn't count on it for some of them).
Best chance you have is to go take the fight to them and show them that you are serious about not backing down and that you are just as determined as them. If you're lucky you may be able to get some amount of respect for it.
Other option is to go to NPC stations and never undock again until they get bored. Worked for other alliances in the past.
Ooooook? If they "dont need a reason", then why dredge up a four month old post, misinterpret the sig attached to it, and make a big public stink about it?
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Vibius
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:52:00 -
[210]
Originally by: Dianabolic
YOU guys still want to be part of this community
Haha, that's where you're wrong, pal.
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Obidios
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:53:00 -
[211]
This stuff is getting a bit far. I didn't know the guy and people I don't know die all the time. Can we all STFU and go grab some ammo already? -----------------
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Rondinum Tharrelinn
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:53:00 -
[212]
</sigh>
can't you lot all go out and get girlfriends or something?
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insolace
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:53:00 -
[213]
Originally by: FATE LOL You know what makes me sick.
Smoske isn't dead. He never died.
The guy who played Smoske died. His name was Vincent van Weert.
You people should be ashamed of yourselves, using a dead person to always have a trump card. Not once have I heard anyone badmouth Vincent van Weert.
He's the one that died, not Smoske.
At least 20 posts later and not a single BOB Reply to this. I guess they must really care about this guy or something.
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PSA1SWIPE
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:53:00 -
[214]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Pwadoc No, you obviously don't get it. You personally insulted a large number of people who did absolutely nothing to you. I never mocked anyone's death, condoned the mocking of anyone's death, or tried to make anyone affected by that death feel bad, and BoB members have implictly accused me of all three int he past few hours.
You owe me a ******* apology, and you all need to back off.
This "point" of humour, the death of someone that played this game, that YOU guys use in WHATEVER form is one that this community has found, overall, to be in bad taste. This community has made it known we don't like it. This community has made it known that we don't appreciate it.
YOU guys still want to be part of this community, which we think is great. What you guys ALSO think, which isn't so great, is that we should all adhere to your own value judgements and code of humour. Let me tell you that when you play eve you don't just play eve, on the eve forums. This is a VIRTUAL REALITY, and everyone wants the advantage - the biggest advantage coming from learning about how people are IRL.
If that signature had been used in a non-eve related forum I doubt there would be this kind of uproar, but it was. Yet you stand there putting on the "we are innocent, we are goonies" card and it just makes people laugh louder AT you. You guys really do need to learn to get on with other forum users if you're gonna get the full enjoyment out of eve.
Very good poin dianabolic this was my point for mine and clash/p1rat post that any time you bring up real life in to the game is wrong especially of the dead or sick.
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Anti Derivative
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:53:00 -
[215]
Originally by: Dianabolic This "point" of humour, the death of someone that played this game, that YOU guys use in WHATEVER form is one that this community has found, overall, to be in bad taste. This community has made it known we don't like it. This community has made it known that we don't appreciate it.
YOU guys still want to be part of this community, which we think is great. What you guys ALSO think, which isn't so great, is that we should all adhere to your own value judgements and code of humour. Let me tell you that when you play eve you don't just play eve, on the eve forums. This is a VIRTUAL REALITY, and everyone wants the advantage - the biggest advantage coming from learning about how people are IRL.
If that signature had been used in a non-eve related forum I doubt there would be this kind of uproar, but it was. Yet you stand there putting on the "we are innocent, we are goonies" card and it just makes people laugh louder AT you. You guys really do need to learn to get on with other forum users if you're gonna get the full enjoyment out of eve.
Why did you post that in response to the post you quoted? He didn't say anything about you adhering to or tolerating our value judgments in regard to humor. Many of us have never heard of this Smoske incident, let alone the pilot himself and this person's offensive signature was essentially a joke we didn't understand.
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:54:00 -
[216]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Pwadoc
You owe me a ******* apology, and you all need to back off.
This "point" of humour, the death of someone that played this game, that YOU guys use in WHATEVER form is one that this community has found, overall, to be in bad taste. This community has made it known we don't like it. This community has made it known that we don't appreciate it.
YOU guys still want to be part of this community, which we think is great. What you guys ALSO think, which isn't so great, is that we should all adhere to your own value judgements and code of humour. Let me tell you that when you play eve you don't just play eve, on the eve forums. This is a VIRTUAL REALITY, and everyone wants the advantage - the biggest advantage coming from learning about how people are IRL.
If that signature had been used in a non-eve related forum I doubt there would be this kind of uproar, but it was. Yet you stand there putting on the "we are innocent, we are goonies" card and it just makes people laugh louder AT you. You guys really do need to learn to get on with other forum users if you're gonna get the full enjoyment out of eve.
The only uproar is coming from you and your cheer leaders. When Carlos Mencia tells a crappy joke that offends you, you CHANGE THE CHANNEL or turn off the TV, you don't fire bomb Comedy Central.
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Zen TseTse
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:54:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Okay. So why kick him AFTER BoB gets upset instead of months ago? Understand why they may not care that you did it now only after you were all threatened, not because it was offensive and in poor taste?
The guy said what he did, you guys stood by and did nothing. Who cares? Live with the consequences and stop complaining about them.
QFT
Ф Blood Eagle is a state of mind...
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Cvuos
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:54:00 -
[218]
Originally by: Dianabolic
If that signature had been used in a non-eve related forum I doubt there would be this kind of uproar, but it was.
It was used on our private forums. YOU brought it to the community, at the front of your parade, boots going stomp stomp stomp.
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insolace
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:54:00 -
[219]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot I played a game called "Mankind" before playing Eve.
Character counts
In Mankind, there was low life sub-human named "Severed Wind", who did things like crudely joke about the dead crew from the space shuttle crash the same day that it happened.
Character counts
To this day, Severed Wind is on my **** list (and a lot of other folks too).
Character counts
And Characters counts BEYOND game AND in game.
Incredible displays of poor character are "correctly" NOT treated as part of the game. They are also NOT ignored in game. DEAL WITH IT.
In Mankind I was in the @ Alliance. One of our mortal enemies was Mordor. There were days when I'd be fuming mad at Mordor. Today a number of my best friends in BNC and BNC.E are former Mordor members from Mankind. We both played a game and blasted each other, but nothing that warrented a grudge past that game.
With "Severed Wind" (or the insult in question here in this game) it is different. It goes beyond the game.
Character counts.
As for the whiners, go ahead and dispute this, you'll just dig yourselves deeper, even if you say true things.
tl;dr
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:54:00 -
[220]
Originally by: Rondinum Tharrelinn </sigh>
can't you lot all go out and get girlfriends or something?
cut thread here
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Lyra VX
Blood Inquisition
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:55:00 -
[221]
Edited by: Lyra VX on 27/07/2006 19:55:59 The part I don't understand is why Molle was compelled to declare the war "personal". What would have been wrong with "GoonSwarm, we don't like you being around, so we're deccing you"?
I don't see what anyone gains or loses from involving a deceased player - dragging through mud or not - aside from a lot of attention ... |

Mikhailov
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:55:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Mordan Vimes
Originally by: Blacklight
Nice attempt to turn things on their head. Accusing us of dragging a deceased friend's name through the mud is disgraceful after the way you lot carry on.
Don't care what you think or why you think we have decided to crush you, we are just going to do it, so you can quit your whining and prepare to die.
Whether it takes a month or a year Goonswarm are history.
It's a game. Earth to nerd: Game. Space game. Which you are playing.
And yes, you guys pulled up an old, old sig on a private forum and are acting offended and issuing threats. You are quite a package - offended nerds using their dead friend as a political causus belli.
I'm offended for his family, and I'm quite repulsed by your tactics - far more than I would have ever been offended if someone had mocked a dead friend of mine.
But it's all a repulsively used, conveniently inflammatory bloody shirt you're waving. You're actually going to war because some dude several months ago said something in his sig about an unfortunate death. After the fellow apologized to the offended party (directly to his dad), you are still going ahead.
You're a pack of liars and smarmy death-pimps. My sincere condolences to moby, but if you're "defending blarhghlargh honor" as justification for this pre-emptive attack, then you guys are worse than the guy who mocked the dead. You're dragging your friend's metaphorical corpse around to justify your actions at the most convenient and tactically advantageous time. That's being a death-pimp. That's low. And that's repulsive.
Looking forward to good fights! Can't wait gg! Smack free!
Oh wait. No. Here's hoping you end the day wiping snot and bitter tears of frustration off your face and crying into your brocaded pillows because of your emotionally unhealthy connection to an internet space game.
Quoting this again because it is far too rational and intelligent to not be read AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. Use your rational brain, people.
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Randay
Band of Builders Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:55:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Imode The greatest part about this conflict will be the forum war with BoB's potent posting abilities pitted against the Something Awful community...
Actually it is quite one sided, I guesstimate a 20:1 tard:bob post ratio. Not to mention the reads, oh god think of the bandwidth. Or at least CCP can put some adds on the forums, could probably buy a few new servers. Or hire more moderators. -------------------------------------------
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Alessia Karan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:55:00 -
[224]
Originally by: Jingu Himiko
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Originally by: Aeaon
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
I will not publish the words and ts recording again as it drove the player , a rl girl , away from the game due teh extreme insults and ts recording about her medical health condition .
RKK and EVOL never apoligized .
Patently awaiting answer
quotin' dis
quoting for great justice
Was the girl a BoB member ? Where the insults made by a BoB member ? Where the insults publicied by a BoB member ?
Come back when you got a clue.
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Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:55:00 -
[225]
Originally by: mynnna
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan I think GS are missing the point. BoB doesn't need a reason to go after you. If they want to go after you, they will. They are apparently not NAPing anyone else, they are just going straight after you and will kill anyone in their way to get to you.
Maybe you think it's stupid but what your former corpmate did was in poor taste. NEDM. Now, instead of just fighting D2 + friends with your friends, you gotta fight D2 + friends as well as BoB ... and if you're lucky, your friends will stick around and back you up (I wouldn't count on it for some of them).
Best chance you have is to go take the fight to them and show them that you are serious about not backing down and that you are just as determined as them. If you're lucky you may be able to get some amount of respect for it.
Other option is to go to NPC stations and never undock again until they get bored. Worked for other alliances in the past.
Ooooook? If they "dont need a reason", then why dredge up a four month old post, misinterpret the sig attached to it, and make a big public stink about it?
Presumably because you ****ed them off. Maybe I'm not being clear. If they just wanted a fight, they'd go fight. But you guys made them mad, so they are going to go after you because of that, not because they needed and excuse to fight you. Make sense? ----------
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D Joe
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:56:00 -
[226]
I remember when my son died. It was probably the most traumatizing experience I or my close family have ever had to endure. Unfortunately for him, and for us, it was cancer that slowly took him from us. Months went by where we knew that this day could be the last day we would see him alive. It was unbearable to say goodbye for the last time so many times. He was strong through all of it though. He never let us see him cry, even when the chemo treatments were eating away at everything that was him. I'll never forget you Bryan.
The truth of the matter is that this whole situation is very sad. If it was my son that was insulted, I know how I would react. Yes, I would be insulted. Yes, I would be upset. But the last thing I would want is for it to be used for political reasons, even in such a trivial game. That, in my opinion, is the worst aspect. I never knew your old friend and don't even know his real name. And despite that, perhaps because of it, I think that this has gone way beyond the edge of reason. I'm frankly offended by everyone discussing this at all, especially those who are bringing it up as a reason for war.
I may have to leave Eve for a while, if not permenently because of this. I have a lot to think about.
-D Joe Goonswarm
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Raivin
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:56:00 -
[227]
Originally by: Zen TseTse
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Okay. So why kick him AFTER BoB gets upset instead of months ago? Understand why they may not care that you did it now only after you were all threatened, not because it was offensive and in poor taste?
The guy said what he did, you guys stood by and did nothing. Who cares? Live with the consequences and stop complaining about them.
QFT
Unless you've got long flowing blond hair and a 36DD chest, stop being a cheerleader.
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[img-elite sig showing my latest kill and a Machiavelli quote] |

Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 19:57:00 -
[228]
Originally by: Randay
Originally by: Imode The greatest part about this conflict will be the forum war with BoB's potent posting abilities pitted against the Something Awful community...
Actually it is quite one sided, I guesstimate a 20:1 tard:bob post ratio. Not to mention the reads, oh god think of the bandwidth. Or at least CCP can put some adds on the forums, could probably buy a few new servers. Or hire more moderators.
You're forgetting that some of the tards are also BoB members. BoB ARE pretty big forum *****s too, you know.
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:01:00 -
[229]
I remember the early days of Goonfleet, when there were only 200 something of us and we had just moved into S-U, and it seemed like everyone in the universe was out to get us.
Man, those days ruled. I got on more killmails back then than I have in all the time since then.
Here's hoping BoB can make me feel like that again, all this fleet combat and POS wars crap is boring me.
It's also always fun to shoot people who arn't right in the head.
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Sergeant Spot
Black Eclipse Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:01:00 -
[230]
Gotta go make Bookmark sets for the BNC.E that will be joining the gank fest.
Seems the Goons are digging a deep hole with their attempts to justify themselves. They don't need anymore help from me.
Play nice while you Butcher each other
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:01:00 -
[231]
Originally by: Cvuos
Originally by: Dianabolic
If that signature had been used in a non-eve related forum I doubt there would be this kind of uproar, but it was.
It was used on our private forums. YOU brought it to the community, at the front of your parade, boots going stomp stomp stomp.
Actually, we didn't. If you (your) guy(s) hadn't used it, and CONTINUED TO USE IT, regardless of how old it is, it wouldn't STILL be there.
It was used on a private EVE RELATED forum. There's a difference, Cvuos.
@Jholo Artei - Why don't you follow the same mantra as the rest of the supposed goonies do? I didn't think it mattered the reason for an attack, but that you would all stand together no matter what? If we assume that i still true your post is kinda pointless, no?
@Homicidalnun - But I can't / won't go play another computer game, use a better example next time please.
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Annover Haf
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:02:00 -
[232]
Originally by: HippoKing Edited by: HippoKing on 27/07/2006 19:29:11 This thread delivers, but is descending rapidly.
My opinions: Goons shouldn't make jokes about dead people, amusing as they might be to a certain audience. BoB shouldn't take said jokes so seriously. They might not be nice, but they are not overly malicious, and they are, after all, jokes. No-one has been harmed but your feelings The words of one member (referring to the sig, not to the Firstname Lastname incident two years ago) should not be a justification for ramifications against a whole alliance BoB have wanted to do this for a long time The goons are the single entity BoB would have most trouble destroying in my opinion, due to their persistence, will, tactics and numbers
Will be interesting to see how this plays out: a war which should have happened eventually, happening for all the wrong reasons. I don't really have a side to back (there are complete ****s acting on both sides), but I think losing the goons would be a bad thing for Eve, and BoB getting taken down a notch would be a good one.
Good luck and have fun everyone. Remember people, it's just a game!
I am shocked and near catatonic at a display of intelligence in this post. It is like a hitting a pocket of clarity amidst a miasma of self interest, spin, and stupidity.
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Pwadoc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:02:00 -
[233]
Originally by: Dianabolic
This "point" of humour, the death of someone that played this game, that YOU guys use in WHATEVER form is one that this community has found, overall, to be in bad taste. This community has made it known we don't like it. This community has made it known that we don't appreciate it.
YOU guys still want to be part of this community, which we think is great. What you guys ALSO think, which isn't so great, is that we should all adhere to your own value judgements and code of humour. Let me tell you that when you play eve you don't just play eve, on the eve forums. This is a VIRTUAL REALITY, and everyone wants the advantage - the biggest advantage coming from learning about how people are IRL.
If that signature had been used in a non-eve related forum I doubt there would be this kind of uproar, but it was. Yet you stand there putting on the "we are innocent, we are goonies" card and it just makes people laugh louder AT you. You guys really do need to learn to get on with other forum users if you're gonna get the full enjoyment out of eve.
If you have a problem with individual people who say or do individual things that are in bad taste, then you are entirely free to bring it up with them. You are abstracting individual acts to encompass a large body of people. I did not participate or condone any of the acts which elicited this response, and it is fallacious to argue that I did. Therefore, I, and the thousands of goons like me, do not deserve the smears leveled against us.
I appreciate your willingness to discuss your views, and I hope we can at some point resume enjoying ourselves while we play this game.
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Alexison
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:03:00 -
[234]
What you say on the internet is just as real as real life. Think about that next time.
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FATE LOL
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:03:00 -
[235]
Originally by: Rondinum Tharrelinn </sigh>
can't you lot all go out and get girlfriends or something?
I think my wife would be pretty ****ed off if I did that, but if you say so....

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Jholo Artei
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:03:00 -
[236]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Cvuos
Originally by: Dianabolic
If that signature had been used in a non-eve related forum I doubt there would be this kind of uproar, but it was.
It was used on our private forums. YOU brought it to the community, at the front of your parade, boots going stomp stomp stomp.
Actually, we didn't. If you (your) guy(s) hadn't used it, and CONTINUED TO USE IT, regardless of how old it is, it wouldn't STILL be there.
It was used on a private EVE RELATED forum. There's a difference, Cvuos.
@Jholo Artei - Why don't you follow the same mantra as the rest of the supposed goonies do? I didn't think it mattered the reason for an attack, but that you would all stand together no matter what? If we assume that i still true your post is kinda pointless, no?
@Homicidalnun - But I can't / won't go play another computer game, use a better example next time please.
I was trying to be a logical and rational person. How dare I express sympathy for something that you dredged up for INTERNET VIDEO GAME PURPOSES.
Seriously, who's digging the hole, here?
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:03:00 -
[237]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Cvuos
Originally by: Dianabolic
If that signature had been used in a non-eve related forum I doubt there would be this kind of uproar, but it was.
It was used on our private forums. YOU brought it to the community, at the front of your parade, boots going stomp stomp stomp.
Actually, we didn't. If you (your) guy(s) hadn't used it, and CONTINUED TO USE IT, regardless of how old it is, it wouldn't STILL be there.
It was used on a private EVE RELATED forum. There's a difference, Cvuos.
@Jholo Artei - Why don't you follow the same mantra as the rest of the supposed goonies do? I didn't think it mattered the reason for an attack, but that you would all stand together no matter what? If we assume that i still true your post is kinda pointless, no?
@Homicidalnun - But I can't / won't go play another computer game, use a better example next time please.
If you poke your nose into someone else's private property and are shocked by what you find there, I'd say that's your fault and not theirs. 
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Alessia Karan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:03:00 -
[238]
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
Originally by: Alessia Karan
Originally by: Jingu Himiko
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Originally by: Aeaon
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
I will not publish the words and ts recording again as it drove the player , a rl girl , away from the game due teh extreme insults and ts recording about her medical health condition .
RKK and EVOL never apoligized .
Patently awaiting answer
quotin' dis
quoting for great justice
Was the girl a BoB member ? Where the insults made by a BoB member ? Where the insults publicied by a BoB member ?
Come back when you got a clue.
I have a clue . I lived together for 5 years with her and she was a director of CDI aka CybderDyne Industries back then .
To answer you : No she wasnt in BoB Yes made by someone from RKK and EVOL Publiced in local/mail . TS recording hitted EvE - O Forums .
Now you go look for that clue .
Killa Vex was not a BoB member.
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insolace
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:03:00 -
[239]
Originally by: Sergeant Spot
Originally by: insolace
Originally by: FATE LOL You know what makes me sick.
Smoske isn't dead. He never died.
The guy who played Smoske died. His name was Vincent van Weert.
You people should be ashamed of yourselves, using a dead person to always have a trump card. Not once have I heard anyone badmouth Vincent van Weert.
He's the one that died, not Smoske.
At least 20 posts later and not a single BOB Reply to this. I guess they must really care about this guy or something.
Its a red herring
Your continued attempts to say ANYTHING other than "we screwed up" are only digging you deeper.
There is no argument, no justification, no decisive point, not even true one, that can do anything except dig you deeper.
dig me deeper into what? getting blown up by bob? what do you think I pay my $15 a month for, so I can shoot lasers at rocks?
seriously you're trying to threaten me by promising me pvp???
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:04:00 -
[240]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Cvuos
Originally by: Dianabolic
If that signature had been used in a non-eve related forum I doubt there would be this kind of uproar, but it was.
It was used on our private forums. YOU brought it to the community, at the front of your parade, boots going stomp stomp stomp.
Actually, we didn't. If you (your) guy(s) hadn't used it, and CONTINUED TO USE IT, regardless of how old it is, it wouldn't STILL be there.
It was used on a private EVE RELATED forum. There's a difference, Cvuos.
@Jholo Artei - Why don't you follow the same mantra as the rest of the supposed goonies do? I didn't think it mattered the reason for an attack, but that you would all stand together no matter what? If we assume that i still true your post is kinda pointless, no?
@Homicidalnun - But I can't / won't go play another computer game, use a better example next time please.
You dragged it off a private forum you nitwit. And it was taken out of complex. Who cares if it was EVE Related. That's dumb as hell. BIG DEAL. He died in real life, and the last time I checked, that WAS NOT related to EVE.
If you respect him so much, maybe you should stop furiously jerking on his corpse.
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Blooded Heromy
Evolution
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:04:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Calenth As I said in the other thread,
but Tetsujin already apologized for that in the original thread before it was locked, and nobody in GS was defending tetsujin -- none of us condone making jokes like that in public places where people won't understand the context -- we just think it's lame that people keep trolling us with something that predates our entire corporation and 99% of our members by like a year. That's what the jokes are about -- not mocking the dead, but mocking the people who bandwagon onto the memory of the dead for political points in a spaceship game.
Plus, the post quoted in the original bob troll was from May, so it looks like they'd been saving it for a while. If they're looking for an excuse to come after us then it's not hard to find one. AS to what actually happens, yeah, it'll be an interesting weekend one way or another.
Lookin at it from the side that you ppl did enjoy it and laught at it is enuff, you my friend, your a dead joke, nothing else. Just a "puff" in the air,0.
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Andre Carnegi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:04:00 -
[242]
Originally by: D Joe I remember when my son died. It was probably the most traumatizing experience I or my close family have ever had to endure. Unfortunately for him, and for us, it was cancer that slowly took him from us. Months went by where we knew that this day could be the last day we would see him alive. It was unbearable to say goodbye for the last time so many times. He was strong through all of it though. He never let us see him cry, even when the chemo treatments were eating away at everything that was him. I'll never forget you Bryan.
The truth of the matter is that this whole situation is very sad. If it was my son that was insulted, I know how I would react. Yes, I would be insulted. Yes, I would be upset. But the last thing I would want is for it to be used for political reasons, even in such a trivial game. That, in my opinion, is the worst aspect. I never knew your old friend and don't even know his real name. And despite that, perhaps because of it, I think that this has gone way beyond the edge of reason. I'm frankly offended by everyone discussing this at all, especially those who are bringing it up as a reason for war.
I may have to leave Eve for a while, if not permenently because of this. I have a lot to think about.
-D Joe Goonswarm
I'm sorry for your loss, and sorry it had to be brought up here. You've got our sympathies.
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Ghaulth
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:05:00 -
[243]
Originally by: Dianabolic What you guys ALSO think, which isn't so great, is that we should all adhere to your own value judgements and code of humour.
We don't. Which is why it's kept in our private forums, chat and TS. I don't think most people understand the lenghts we go to limit the exposure the general eve-o population to goon humor. And I don't think that plays a small role in why everyone is interpreting that sig in question as something it isn't. Belive me: The irony of people doing exactly what is depicted in that sig is not lost on me, or, I suspect, most goons.
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Happydayz
FATAL REVELATIONS Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:05:00 -
[244]
Originally by: Calisto Cody
i dont suck up ethier lil boy
lol!
Seriously, how old are you?
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:05:00 -
[245]
Originally by: Blooded Heromy
Originally by: Calenth As I said in the other thread,
but Tetsujin already apologized for that in the original thread before it was locked, and nobody in GS was defending tetsujin -- none of us condone making jokes like that in public places where people won't understand the context -- we just think it's lame that people keep trolling us with something that predates our entire corporation and 99% of our members by like a year. That's what the jokes are about -- not mocking the dead, but mocking the people who bandwagon onto the memory of the dead for political points in a spaceship game.
Plus, the post quoted in the original bob troll was from May, so it looks like they'd been saving it for a while. If they're looking for an excuse to come after us then it's not hard to find one. AS to what actually happens, yeah, it'll be an interesting weekend one way or another.
Lookin at it from the side that you ppl did enjoy it and laught at it is enuff, you my friend, your a dead joke, nothing else. Just a "puff" in the air,0.
And you're nothing but a BoB cheer leader. If you think we're such a joke, c'mon and get some. I could always use more people to shoot at.
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Cendrid
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:06:00 -
[246]
Originally by: Aeaon
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
I will not publish the words and ts recording again as it drove the player , a rl girl , away from the game due teh extreme insults and ts recording about her medical health condition .
RKK and EVOL never apoligized .
Patently awaiting answer
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:07:00 -
[247]
Originally by: Homicidalnun
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Cvuos
Originally by: Dianabolic
If that signature had been used in a non-eve related forum I doubt there would be this kind of uproar, but it was.
It was used on our private forums. YOU brought it to the community, at the front of your parade, boots going stomp stomp stomp.
Actually, we didn't. If you (your) guy(s) hadn't used it, and CONTINUED TO USE IT, regardless of how old it is, it wouldn't STILL be there.
It was used on a private EVE RELATED forum. There's a difference, Cvuos.
@Jholo Artei - Why don't you follow the same mantra as the rest of the supposed goonies do? I didn't think it mattered the reason for an attack, but that you would all stand together no matter what? If we assume that i still true your post is kinda pointless, no?
@Homicidalnun - But I can't / won't go play another computer game, use a better example next time please.
You dragged it off a private forum you nitwit. And it was taken out of complex. Who cares if it was EVE Related. That's dumb as hell. BIG DEAL. He died in real life, and the last time I checked, that WAS NOT related to EVE.
If you respect him so much, maybe you should stop furiously jerking on his corpse.
I've seen the context that you people have tried to use to justify it, it's still bull****. Just because you say it has "context" doesn't mean that it has any kind of contact to make a difference to US.
If you guys really think you can keep eve seperate from rl with all the politics and oog coordination that goes on then you really are deluded.
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Sochin
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:07:00 -
[248]
Originally by: BuSHiDo ZiN
Originally by: Sochin OKAY WE GET IT.
GoonSwarm is acting very indignent about this whole sitation and is trying to flip things around by accusing us of somehow "dragging our friend's corpse through the mud" by pledging to destroy the organization that has made a running joke out of denigrating his memory. All the Goons will now act very upset and accuss us of being hypocrites.
THANK YOU, WE UNDERSTAND REMEDIAL'S POSITION. THERE IS NO NEED TO HAVE EVERY SINGLE MEMBER OF YOUR ALLIANCE POST IT AGAIN AND AGAIN.
For that matter, we also understand that many other Goons really like the phrase "E-honor" and somehow think that if they repeat this enough we will seem like nerds who are to involved with the internet. Everyone on this forum pays CCP to play this game, but at least we didn't pay some idiot for permission to post in the cesspool that is SomethingAwful forums.
You know those retarded Chuck Norris jokes that you got tired of a couple months back but prior to that they were the pinnacle of hilarity? Guess what.
I always thought those were retarded.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:10:00 -
[249]
Originally by: Ghaulth
Originally by: Dianabolic What you guys ALSO think, which isn't so great, is that we should all adhere to your own value judgements and code of humour.
We don't. Which is why it's kept in our private forums, chat and TS. I don't think most people understand the lenghts we go to limit the exposure the general eve-o population to goon humor. And I don't think that plays a small role in why everyone is interpreting that sig in question as something it isn't. Belive me: The irony of people doing exactly what is depicted in that sig is not lost on me, or, I suspect, most goons.
Well, that's too bad then. Maybe you should consider the idea that anything you say or print, even in private, can carry consequences?
Instead of complaining about BoB deciding to go after you, or protesting their reasons, why don't you suck it up and stick it to them in game and just deal with the reprecussions of what was done? I doubt either side is going to back down now.
I'm not saying you can't have your goon humor, but I think the best response you can give at this point is, "Yeah? What are you gonna do about it?" ----------
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:11:00 -
[250]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Ghaulth
Originally by: Dianabolic What you guys ALSO think, which isn't so great, is that we should all adhere to your own value judgements and code of humour.
We don't. Which is why it's kept in our private forums, chat and TS. I don't think most people understand the lenghts we go to limit the exposure the general eve-o population to goon humor. And I don't think that plays a small role in why everyone is interpreting that sig in question as something it isn't. Belive me: The irony of people doing exactly what is depicted in that sig is not lost on me, or, I suspect, most goons.
Well, that's too bad then. Maybe you should consider the idea that anything you say or print, even in private, can carry consequences?
Instead of complaining about BoB deciding to go after you, or protesting their reasons, why don't you suck it up and stick it to them in game and just deal with the reprecussions of what was done? I doubt either side is going to back down now.
I'm not saying you can't have your goon humor, but I think the best response you can give at this point is, "Yeah? What are you gonna do about it?"
So you admit that you've been hacking our forums?
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Syndic Mitth'raw'nuruodo
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:11:00 -
[251]
I'm not, nor will I ever, have someone dictate what is "right" and "wrong" moral-wise in my game play. ISK scam, escrow scams, pirating, all that is good and bad in Eve, and yet BoB et. al are going to dictate to me and the "community" what they feel is right and wrong?
Stop it. Get off your high horses.
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Vahl
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:11:00 -
[252]
Edited by: Vahl on 27/07/2006 20:11:42
Originally by: Alexison What you say on the internet is just as real as real life. Think about that next time.
So all those hot looking elf women in WoW really are girls in real life!!!
SWEET!
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Annover Haf
GoonWaffe
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:12:00 -
[253]
Originally by: Sochin Everyone on this forum pays CCP to play this game, but at least we didn't pay some idiot for permission to post in the cesspool that is SomethingAwful forums.
That's ok, we didn't really want you in our cesspool anyways.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:13:00 -
[254]
Originally by: Ghaulth
Originally by: Dianabolic What you guys ALSO think, which isn't so great, is that we should all adhere to your own value judgements and code of humour.
We don't. Which is why it's kept in our private forums, chat and TS. I don't think most people understand the lenghts we go to limit the exposure the general eve-o population to goon humor. And I don't think that plays a small role in why everyone is interpreting that sig in question as something it isn't. Belive me: The irony of people doing exactly what is depicted in that sig is not lost on me, or, I suspect, most goons.
Yet you see how much of this community you DO (and I maintain you DO want to be a part of it, otherwise you'd just leave) object to it and you still defend it?
Ghaulth, I KNOW that sa.com WANT to have a presence in eve. Hell, why wouldn't they, it's the best mmo on the market at the moment and has been for about 3 years. But this is NOT sa.com. There has to be a little bit of respect for the community and for the history of eve - when smoske was around Eve was 6k people PER DAY on a SUNDAY.
What you guys are doing by using his name in such a defiled manner is what I can only imagine would be akin to completely ignoring the death of remedial without any jokes AT ALL. Can you imagine it?
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Well, if that's the case, carry on I guess. If you don't wanna end up with 3k goons against 18k eve pilots tho I really would suggest you consider what I've said in this post.
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:13:00 -
[255]
Dear CCP,
We beat you to factional warfare <3
Love,
Goons
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FATE LOL
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:13:00 -
[256]
Originally by: Blacklight
It is exceedingly sad that the straw that broke the camel's back was related to a departed friend. I would love for that not to have happened and us to have decided to shoot you anyway for all the other reasons you are target worthy.
Unfortunately we are where we are and enough BoB pilots got ****ed off today that the scales were tipped and action is being taken. The cause of our ire is now irrelevant but quite why anyone is surprised at us being more than a little ****ed off about it is not very clued up on human nature.
Live with it and get it on in game.
Keep telling yourself that over and over, and maybe one day you'll really believe it.
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:13:00 -
[257]
Originally by: Blacklight As I posted in my blog as I wasn't going to post here but have changed my mind....
Quote: Understand the following..
1. The sig incident is the straw that broke the camel's back (the sig was current so the whole 4 month old joke line is just garbage).
2. Having started as an amusing sideshow and a new initiative to be cheered on, Goons have shown their true colors.
3. We don't like you.
4. We really don't like your CEO.
5. We think your attitude stinks and you're a blight on this community.
6. We are going to fight you because of 1-5 and because we can.
We don't give a toss what Goons or anyone else for that matter thinks of our reasons for targeting you as we are doing it anyway. We have never needed anyone else's approval for doing anything in Eve nor do we now. There are numerous people we would rather be singling out for our next major project however you, your retarded forum antics, your attitude and your idiot CEO have gathered enough points on the "nextalliancetodie-o-meter" that we are going to end you.
See you in space.
It is exceedingly sad that the straw that broke the camel's back was related to a departed friend. I would love for that not to have happened and us to have decided to shoot you anyway for all the other reasons you are target worthy.
Unfortunately we are where we are and enough BoB pilots got ****ed off today that the scales were tipped and action is being taken. The cause of our ire is now irrelevant but quite why anyone is surprised at us being more than a little ****ed off about it is not very clued up on human nature.
Live with it and get it on in game.
We are from BoB. We will quash anyone that dares to even slightly anger us! This is an internet space game, BUT IT MUST BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. If someone makes a joke about one of our friends or something, hidden away on a remote corner of the internet, THEN GOD HELP THEM BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA COMMIT EVE GENOCIDE!
It's a GAME. Games are for having FUN. Remember FUN? Jesus, everyone takes this game so seriously. Good. While you're playing EVE you won't be breeding, which will leave more air in the world for my children.
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Blacklight
Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:14:00 -
[258]
Originally by: Homicidalnun We are from BoB. We will quash anyone that dares to even slightly anger us! This is an internet space game, BUT IT MUST BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. If someone makes a joke about one of our friends or something, hidden away on a remote corner of the internet, THEN GOD HELP THEM BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA COMMIT EVE GENOCIDE!
It's a GAME. Games are for having FUN. Remember FUN? Jesus, everyone takes this game so seriously. Good. While you're playing EVE you won't be breeding, which will leave more air in the world for my children.
Yes it's a game, one where we can do what we like within the rules with no need to justify our actions and still have fun doing it which we will.
Get over it.
Eve Blacklight Style
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Jholo Artei
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:14:00 -
[259]
Originally by: Blacklight Edited by: Blacklight on 27/07/2006 20:11:11 As I posted in my blog, I wasn't going to post here but have changed my mind....
Quote: Understand the following..
1. The sig incident is the straw that broke the camel's back (the sig was current so the whole 4 month old joke line is just garbage).
2. Having started as an amusing sideshow and a new initiative to be cheered on, Goons have shown their true colors.
3. We don't like you.
4. We really don't like your CEO.
5. We think your attitude stinks and you're a blight on this community.
6. We are going to fight you because of 1-5 and because we can.
We don't give a toss what Goons or anyone else for that matter thinks of our reasons for targeting you as we are doing it anyway. We have never needed anyone else's approval for doing anything in Eve nor do we now. There are numerous people we would rather be singling out for our next major project however you, your retarded forum antics, your attitude and your idiot CEO have gathered enough points on the "nextalliancetodie-o-meter" that we are going to end you.
See you in space.
It is exceedingly sad that the straw that broke the camel's back was related to a departed friend. I would love for that not to have happened and us to have decided to shoot you anyway for all the other reasons you are target worthy.
Unfortunately we are where we are and enough BoB pilots got ****ed off today that the scales were tipped and action is being taken. The cause of our ire is now irrelevant but quite why anyone is surprised at us being more than a little ****ed off about it is not very clued up on human nature.
Live with it and get it on in game.
Live with your exploitation of the death of your "friend."
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Pwadoc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:14:00 -
[260]
Originally by: Blacklight As I posted in my blog as I wasn't going to post here but have changed my mind....
Quote: Understand the following..
1. The sig incident is the straw that broke the camel's back (the sig was current so the whole 4 month old joke line is just garbage).
2. Having started as an amusing sideshow and a new initiative to be cheered on, Goons have shown their true colors.
3. We don't like you.
4. We really don't like your CEO.
5. We think your attitude stinks and you're a blight on this community.
6. We are going to fight you because of 1-5 and because we can.
We don't give a toss what Goons or anyone else for that matter thinks of our reasons for targeting you as we are doing it anyway. We have never needed anyone else's approval for doing anything in Eve nor do we now. There are numerous people we would rather be singling out for our next major project however you, your retarded forum antics, your attitude and your idiot CEO have gathered enough points on the "nextalliancetodie-o-meter" that we are going to end you.
See you in space.
It is exceedingly sad that the straw that broke the camel's back was related to a departed friend. I would love for that not to have happened and us to have decided to shoot you anyway for all the other reasons you are target worthy.
Unfortunately we are where we are and enough BoB pilots got ****ed off today that the scales were tipped and action is being taken. The cause of our ire is now irrelevant but quite why anyone is surprised at us being more than a little ****ed off about it is not very clued up on human nature.
Live with it and get it on in game.
You don't like me, a person you've never met, in real life, because of a game? You don't even know me, you know nothing about me. At least now I have a valid reason to dislike you: you're acting like a real jerk towards me and a lot of my friends.
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:15:00 -
[261]
Originally by: Blacklight
Originally by: Homicidalnun We are from BoB. We will quash anyone that dares to even slightly anger us! This is an internet space game, BUT IT MUST BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. If someone makes a joke about one of our friends or something, hidden away on a remote corner of the internet, THEN GOD HELP THEM BECAUSE WE'RE GONNA COMMIT EVE GENOCIDE!
It's a GAME. Games are for having FUN. Remember FUN? Jesus, everyone takes this game so seriously. Good. While you're playing EVE you won't be breeding, which will leave more air in the world for my children.
Yes it's a game, one where we can do what we like within the rules with no need to justify our actions and still have fun doing it which we will.
Get over it.
I'll get over it when you get over yourselves.
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:15:00 -
[262]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Ghaulth
Originally by: Dianabolic What you guys ALSO think, which isn't so great, is that we should all adhere to your own value judgements and code of humour.
We don't. Which is why it's kept in our private forums, chat and TS. I don't think most people understand the lenghts we go to limit the exposure the general eve-o population to goon humor. And I don't think that plays a small role in why everyone is interpreting that sig in question as something it isn't. Belive me: The irony of people doing exactly what is depicted in that sig is not lost on me, or, I suspect, most goons.
Yet you see how much of this community you DO (and I maintain you DO want to be a part of it, otherwise you'd just leave) object to it and you still defend it?
Ghaulth, I KNOW that sa.com WANT to have a presence in eve. Hell, why wouldn't they, it's the best mmo on the market at the moment and has been for about 3 years. But this is NOT sa.com. There has to be a little bit of respect for the community and for the history of eve - when smoske was around Eve was 6k people PER DAY on a SUNDAY.
What you guys are doing by using his name in such a defiled manner is what I can only imagine would be akin to completely ignoring the death of remedial without any jokes AT ALL. Can you imagine it?
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Well, if that's the case, carry on I guess. If you don't wanna end up with 3k goons against 18k eve pilots tho I really would suggest you consider what I've said in this post.
Spare us the hyperbole. A lot of people on these forums may post a lot and go RARRHG HATE GOONS ARGH and mabye go to S-U to gank newbies for a few weeks, but the vast majority have better things to do. We both know that you'll never get 18,000 pilots to come kill us so don't pretend you can.
Also, if Remedial died in a dumb way, I sure as heck would laugh, for the same reason I read the Darwin Awards and laugh at them.
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Sochin
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:16:00 -
[263]
Originally by: FATE LOL
Vincent van Weert was the one that died, not Smoske. Smoske is alive and well on the server, I just looked him up today. Say his name, say Vincent van Weert. He is the one no longer with us.
You need to grow up and understand it's people like you who are soiling the name of Smoske, and the person who played him, Vincent van Weert.
Ok, I wasn't going to reply to this whole "Its Vincent not Smoske!!!" thing because its probably one of the stupidest things I've heard in awhile, but here goes.
This is a game where we play go by aliases instead of our real names. I know the real names of some of the people I'm closest to in this game, but most of the time I still call them by their ingame names. Its been that way in every online community I've been a part of. I was in two corps with Smoske (m0o and Death Row), and was friends with him. I didn't know his real name until I read Moby's post about his death. We all call him Smoske because thats the name we knew him by. Vincent WAS Smoske, so consider it a nickname.
Saying "Smoske is still alive" just because the character hasn't been biomassed is a case of extremely stupid nitpicking.
Nemo me impune lacessit
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Adalus
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:16:00 -
[264]
Originally by: Blacklight Yes it's a game, one where we can do what we like within the rules with no need to justify our actions and still have fun doing it which we will.
Get over it.
You have too many posts in this thread for that statement to be anything but laughable.
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Syndic Mitth'raw'nuruodo
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:16:00 -
[265]
Originally by: Blacklight
Yes it's a game, one where we can do what we like within the rules with no need to justify our actions and still have fun doing it which we will.
Get over it.
If you don't need to justify your actions, then...
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:17:00 -
[266]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Ghaulth
Originally by: Dianabolic What you guys ALSO think, which isn't so great, is that we should all adhere to your own value judgements and code of humour.
We don't. Which is why it's kept in our private forums, chat and TS. I don't think most people understand the lenghts we go to limit the exposure the general eve-o population to goon humor. And I don't think that plays a small role in why everyone is interpreting that sig in question as something it isn't. Belive me: The irony of people doing exactly what is depicted in that sig is not lost on me, or, I suspect, most goons.
Yet you see how much of this community you DO (and I maintain you DO want to be a part of it, otherwise you'd just leave) object to it and you still defend it?
Ghaulth, I KNOW that sa.com WANT to have a presence in eve. Hell, why wouldn't they, it's the best mmo on the market at the moment and has been for about 3 years. But this is NOT sa.com. There has to be a little bit of respect for the community and for the history of eve - when smoske was around Eve was 6k people PER DAY on a SUNDAY.
What you guys are doing by using his name in such a defiled manner is what I can only imagine would be akin to completely ignoring the death of remedial without any jokes AT ALL. Can you imagine it?
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Well, if that's the case, carry on I guess. If you don't wanna end up with 3k goons against 18k eve pilots tho I really would suggest you consider what I've said in this post.
I'm from BoB! I have enough ego to power a Megathron's engines from Jita to Delve faster than you can say Smoskse!
We don't want to have a presence in the community. We could care less. We want to play a GAME.
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phlage
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:17:00 -
[267]
Originally by: Jholo Artei
Originally by: Blacklight Edited by: Blacklight on 27/07/2006 20:11:11 As I posted in my blog, I wasn't going to post here but have changed my mind....
Quote: Understand the following..
1. The sig incident is the straw that broke the camel's back (the sig was current so the whole 4 month old joke line is just garbage).
2. Having started as an amusing sideshow and a new initiative to be cheered on, Goons have shown their true colors.
3. We don't like you.
4. We really don't like your CEO.
5. We think your attitude stinks and you're a blight on this community.
6. We are going to fight you because of 1-5 and because we can.
We don't give a toss what Goons or anyone else for that matter thinks of our reasons for targeting you as we are doing it anyway. We have never needed anyone else's approval for doing anything in Eve nor do we now. There are numerous people we would rather be singling out for our next major project however you, your retarded forum antics, your attitude and your idiot CEO have gathered enough points on the "nextalliancetodie-o-meter" that we are going to end you.
See you in space.
It is exceedingly sad that the straw that broke the camel's back was related to a departed friend. I would love for that not to have happened and us to have decided to shoot you anyway for all the other reasons you are target worthy.
Unfortunately we are where we are and enough BoB pilots got ****ed off today that the scales were tipped and action is being taken. The cause of our ire is now irrelevant but quite why anyone is surprised at us being more than a little ****ed off about it is not very clued up on human nature.
Live with it and get it on in game.
Live with your exploitation of the death of your "friend."
It wasn't "exceedingly sad" when you thought you could just parade it around on these forums without being called on it.
You sir are a hypocrite.
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:17:00 -
[268]
BoB is the America to our Middle East.
ALLAH ACKBAR! 
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FATE LOL
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:17:00 -
[269]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Yet you see how much of this community you DO (and I maintain you DO want to be a part of it, otherwise you'd just leave) object to it and you still defend it?
Ghaulth, I KNOW that sa.com WANT to have a presence in eve. Hell, why wouldn't they, it's the best mmo on the market at the moment and has been for about 3 years. But this is NOT sa.com. There has to be a little bit of respect for the community and for the history of eve - when smoske was around Eve was 6k people PER DAY on a SUNDAY.
What you guys are doing by using his name in such a defiled manner is what I can only imagine would be akin to completely ignoring the death of remedial without any jokes AT ALL. Can you imagine it?
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Well, if that's the case, carry on I guess. If you don't wanna end up with 3k goons against 18k eve pilots tho I really would suggest you consider what I've said in this post.
I keep missing out on how the goons made fun of Vincent van Weert, that's the person who died, not Smoske. And if I know the goons, if "Remedial" died, I'm sure they would start the jokes themselves.
Something with that Benny Hill theme I'm sure.
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Pwadoc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:18:00 -
[270]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Yet you see how much of this community you DO (and I maintain you DO want to be a part of it, otherwise you'd just leave) object to it and you still defend it?
Ghaulth, I KNOW that sa.com WANT to have a presence in eve. Hell, why wouldn't they, it's the best mmo on the market at the moment and has been for about 3 years. But this is NOT sa.com. There has to be a little bit of respect for the community and for the history of eve - when smoske was around Eve was 6k people PER DAY on a SUNDAY.
What you guys are doing by using his name in such a defiled manner is what I can only imagine would be akin to completely ignoring the death of remedial without any jokes AT ALL. Can you imagine it?
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Well, if that's the case, carry on I guess. If you don't wanna end up with 3k goons against 18k eve pilots tho I really would suggest you consider what I've said in this post.
It's not about the ******* game, like I've said a million times before. I'm not defending anything and I never have. You owe me an apology because you have accused me of something I both object to and had no part in.
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Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:18:00 -
[271]
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Ghaulth
Originally by: Dianabolic What you guys ALSO think, which isn't so great, is that we should all adhere to your own value judgements and code of humour.
We don't. Which is why it's kept in our private forums, chat and TS. I don't think most people understand the lenghts we go to limit the exposure the general eve-o population to goon humor. And I don't think that plays a small role in why everyone is interpreting that sig in question as something it isn't. Belive me: The irony of people doing exactly what is depicted in that sig is not lost on me, or, I suspect, most goons.
Well, that's too bad then. Maybe you should consider the idea that anything you say or print, even in private, can carry consequences?
Instead of complaining about BoB deciding to go after you, or protesting their reasons, why don't you suck it up and stick it to them in game and just deal with the reprecussions of what was done? I doubt either side is going to back down now.
I'm not saying you can't have your goon humor, but I think the best response you can give at this point is, "Yeah? What are you gonna do about it?"
So you admit that you've been hacking our forums?
Nice dodge. I haven't been to your forums, nor do I need to, enough of it is reproduced and posted elsewhere. ----------
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Crange
Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:18:00 -
[272]
Manny is just Manny and Goonies are just Goonies.
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:18:00 -
[273]
Originally by: FATE LOL
Originally by: Dianabolic
Yet you see how much of this community you DO (and I maintain you DO want to be a part of it, otherwise you'd just leave) object to it and you still defend it?
Ghaulth, I KNOW that sa.com WANT to have a presence in eve. Hell, why wouldn't they, it's the best mmo on the market at the moment and has been for about 3 years. But this is NOT sa.com. There has to be a little bit of respect for the community and for the history of eve - when smoske was around Eve was 6k people PER DAY on a SUNDAY.
What you guys are doing by using his name in such a defiled manner is what I can only imagine would be akin to completely ignoring the death of remedial without any jokes AT ALL. Can you imagine it?
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Well, if that's the case, carry on I guess. If you don't wanna end up with 3k goons against 18k eve pilots tho I really would suggest you consider what I've said in this post.
I keep missing out on how the goons made fun of Vincent van Weert, that's the person who died, not Smoske. And if I know the goons, if "Remedial" died, I'm sure they would start the jokes themselves.
Something with that Benny Hill theme I'm sure.
Read the rules Alt posts are not allowed
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:19:00 -
[274]
Originally by: Sochin
Originally by: FATE LOL
Vincent van Weert was the one that died, not Smoske. Smoske is alive and well on the server, I just looked him up today. Say his name, say Vincent van Weert. He is the one no longer with us.
You need to grow up and understand it's people like you who are soiling the name of Smoske, and the person who played him, Vincent van Weert.
Hell with it. I don't care anymore. You and your mouth breathing forum warriors are spinning this out of proportion faster than a dead German under a truck.
Ok, I wasn't going to reply to this whole "Its Vincent not Smoske!!!" thing because its probably one of the stupidest things I've heard in awhile, but here goes.
This is a game where we play go by aliases instead of our real names. I know the real names of some of the people I'm closest to in this game, but most of the time I still call them by their ingame names. Its been that way in every online community I've been a part of. I was in two corps with Smoske (m0o and Death Row), and was friends with him. I didn't know his real name until I read Moby's post about his death. We all call him Smoske because thats the name we knew him by. Vincent WAS Smoske, so consider it a nickname.
Saying "Smoske is still alive" just because the character hasn't been biomassed is a case of extremely stupid nitpicking.
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Pwadoc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:20:00 -
[275]
Originally by: Blacklight
Yes it's a game, one where we can do what we like within the rules with no need to justify our actions and still have fun doing it which we will.
Get over it.
Who cares about the game? I want to have a discussion, with you, in person, about what you think it was OK to smear my name in the way you have.
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arbitrary
Bad luck Clover Inc.
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:20:00 -
[276]
Originally by: Imode The greatest part about this conflict will be the forum war with BoB's potent posting abilities pitted against the Something Awful community...
Aye, and while the goons might get taken apart ingame, they are holding their own on the forums rather well. Refreshing as they seem to be on the other side of the though guy fence, not perhaps all for the better, but it really gives variation.
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Sir Tificate
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:20:00 -
[277]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Goading people like you is half the fun of playing Eve.
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Johlie
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:21:00 -
[278]
First off, I just want to say I hope both sides lose in some way or another, makes more space for the rest of us.
Whether or not BoB is using this for political gain, or its personal is irrelevent. The fact of the matter is people have used situations like this to start wars since wars have been fought.
--I'm a soldier, I fight where I'm told, and I win where I fight-- |

Cvuos
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:21:00 -
[279]
Originally by: Blacklight
Yes it's a game, one where we can do what we like within the rules with no need to justify our actions and still have fun doing it which we will.
Get over it.
Why didn't you though? Why drag this mess out? Why create this? According to SirMolle, it's personal, it's about this. But according to some blogger now, it was the final straw (four months old, but it's harvest season soon).
You could have simply said "We want to fight. Noone wants to fight us, so we will bring it to the goons. Best of luck, hope for fun fights, no smack, qft signed lol ftw tbqh". We would have answered "Bring it, dibs on Delve".
Why did it have to be like this?
I don't like the jokes, but I really really dislike this posturing with a convenient and extremely tasteless excuse.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:21:00 -
[280]
Originally by: FATE LOL
Originally by: Dianabolic
Yet you see how much of this community you DO (and I maintain you DO want to be a part of it, otherwise you'd just leave) object to it and you still defend it?
Ghaulth, I KNOW that sa.com WANT to have a presence in eve. Hell, why wouldn't they, it's the best mmo on the market at the moment and has been for about 3 years. But this is NOT sa.com. There has to be a little bit of respect for the community and for the history of eve - when smoske was around Eve was 6k people PER DAY on a SUNDAY.
What you guys are doing by using his name in such a defiled manner is what I can only imagine would be akin to completely ignoring the death of remedial without any jokes AT ALL. Can you imagine it?
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Well, if that's the case, carry on I guess. If you don't wanna end up with 3k goons against 18k eve pilots tho I really would suggest you consider what I've said in this post.
I keep missing out on how the goons made fun of Vincent van Weert, that's the person who died, not Smoske. And if I know the goons, if "Remedial" died, I'm sure they would start the jokes themselves.
Something with that Benny Hill theme I'm sure.
You've got all the peices of a puzzle, there, yet you can't put them together. To help you I'll leave you with:
"NO ****" and "You THINK that's how it should be?"
to go with:
"You'd make laughs about remedial because he would WANT IT!!!<<< GET IT????? He WANTS the "harsh" humour.
I forget the post from smoske that said he wanted the same, tbh, and as there are people in this thread (many of them) that DO NOT want to be infected with it, why the sweet mary f*ck don't you guys just drop it and have some respect?
hmmm?
Is it that hard?
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:21:00 -
[281]
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Originally by: Dianabolic
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Goading people like you is half the fun of playing Eve.
EVE is SERIOUS BUSINESS.
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Atandros
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:22:00 -
[282]
Originally by: Blacklight 5. We think your attitude stinks and you're a blight on this community.
Amen, a thousand times.
How I wish I was still in RKK right now. 
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Yakha
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:22:00 -
[283]
Hats off to BOB for a propaganda masterstroke. It might have even been worth calling 'epic' had it been done in a less distasteful manner, but the end goal has been achieved.
Hope you guys will be joining us for a funtastic weekend down in Cloud Ring.
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Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Faaip De Oiad
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:23:00 -
[284]
Edited by: Ishquar Teh''Sainte on 27/07/2006 20:24:55
Originally by: Homicidalnun
We don't want to have a presence in the community. We could care less. We want to play a GAME.
 do you realize that the community is an essential part of EVE?? what you want is Counterstrike in space ___________________

-Skellibjalla- Life is a garden of perceptions. Pick your fruit.
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FATE LOL
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:24:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Sochin
Ok, I wasn't going to reply to this whole "Its Vincent not Smoske!!!" thing because its probably one of the stupidest things I've heard in awhile, but here goes.
This is a game where we play go by aliases instead of our real names. I know the real names of some of the people I'm closest to in this game, but most of the time I still call them by their ingame names. Its been that way in every online community I've been a part of. I was in two corps with Smoske (m0o and Death Row), and was friends with him. I didn't know his real name until I read Moby's post about his death. We all call him Smoske because thats the name we knew him by. Vincent WAS Smoske, so consider it a nickname.
Saying "Smoske is still alive" just because the character hasn't been biomassed is a case of extremely stupid nitpicking.
So what you are saying is you can not seperate the two in your head? I'm sorry, but that's down right scary. Look, do you think his friends in this thing we call "real life" call him "Smoske"? No, they have to suffer without seeing him daily. They don't get to see him walk through the door with a smile on his face, or hear him laugh about a joke.
You need a slap back into the real world, where this is a video game, and Vincent van Weert is no longer alive. You people need to shut down your computers for a week or two and start seeing the real people around you, and stop trying to play the high road with someone's death.
Let Smoske, and the person who played him, Vincent van Weert, rest in peace, not be used as a tool for your internet war with flying spaceships.
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Ceist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:24:00 -
[286]
His name ... was Robert Paulson.
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nicnivin
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:24:00 -
[287]
Edited by: nicnivin on 27/07/2006 20:25:22
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Ghaulth
Originally by: Dianabolic What you guys ALSO think, which isn't so great, is that we should all adhere to your own value judgements and code of humour.
We don't. Which is why it's kept in our private forums, chat and TS. I don't think most people understand the lenghts we go to limit the exposure the general eve-o population to goon humor. And I don't think that plays a small role in why everyone is interpreting that sig in question as something it isn't. Belive me: The irony of people doing exactly what is depicted in that sig is not lost on me, or, I suspect, most goons.
Well, that's too bad then. Maybe you should consider the idea that anything you say or print, even in private, can carry consequences?
Instead of complaining about BoB deciding to go after you, or protesting their reasons, why don't you suck it up and stick it to them in game and just deal with the reprecussions of what was done? I doubt either side is going to back down now.
I'm not saying you can't have your goon humor, but I think the best response you can give at this point is, "Yeah? What are you gonna do about it?"
I think that we have every right to show that this was more political than it was personal. Taking your hurt feelings out on a whole alliance over something one guy said is not honorable, and that's exactly what they are trying to use as fuel for this. They should be shown as the scamming hypocrite that these propaganda characters are.
We aren't afraid to blow things up or be blown up in this video game.
Having some bully show up and fight us is fine, we love to fight. But we are going to defend ourselves against over-dramatic kid who think that playing a game is actually going to make them morally superior to a bunch of people who aren't even involved with the thing that 'offended' them in the first place.
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Dianabolic
Reikoku Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:24:00 -
[288]
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Originally by: Dianabolic
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Goading people like you is half the fun of playing Eve.
Does that go next to the "I won a t'internet argument and got me an iq test" trophy?
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Obron Mettlo
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:24:00 -
[289]
Originally by: Dianabolic completely ignoring the death of remedial without any jokes AT ALL. Can you imagine it?
I'd be worried about finding a coffin that could hold him and six cranes to use a pallbearers, not about making jokes.
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Jholo Artei
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:25:00 -
[290]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Originally by: Dianabolic
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Goading people like you is half the fun of playing Eve.
Does that go next to the "I won a t'internet argument and got me an iq test" trophy?
Yes. You'll be receiving your "I used my dead friend as justification to start a space internet war" trophy in the mail very soon!
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Anti Derivative
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:25:00 -
[291]
if remedial died, and goonfleet made fun of him i would attack tfc because they are associated with us.
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:25:00 -
[292]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Originally by: Dianabolic
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Goading people like you is half the fun of playing Eve.
Does that go next to the "I won a t'internet argument and got me an iq test" trophy?
I hear you are very important on the internet. You must be from BoB!
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Alexison
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:25:00 -
[293]
Originally by: Vahl Edited by: Vahl on 27/07/2006 20:11:42
Originally by: Alexison What you say on the internet is just as real as real life. Think about that next time.
So all those hot looking elf women in WoW really are girls in real life!!!
SWEET!
You are only making yourself look like a fool.
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Sir Tificate
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:25:00 -
[294]
Edited by: Sir Tificate on 27/07/2006 20:25:16
Originally by: Ishquar Teh'Sainte
Originally by: Homicidalnun
We don't want to have a presence in the community. We could care less. We want to play a GAME.
 do you realize that the community is an essential part of EVE??
No it's not. For the longest we've had a posting ban in this forum (and alot of us don't visit any of the other subforums beside the Sell forums) and we had a grand old time playing.
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:25:00 -
[295]
Originally by: Annover Haf
Originally by: HippoKing This thread delivers, but is descending rapidly.
My opinions: Goons shouldn't make jokes about dead people, amusing as they might be to a certain audience. BoB shouldn't take said jokes so seriously. They might not be nice, but they are not overly malicious, and they are, after all, jokes. No-one has been harmed but your feelings The words of one member (referring to the sig, not to the Firstname Lastname incident two years ago) should not be a justification for ramifications against a whole alliance BoB have wanted to do this for a long time The goons are the single entity BoB would have most trouble destroying in my opinion, due to their persistence, will, tactics and numbers
Will be interesting to see how this plays out: a war which should have happened eventually, happening for all the wrong reasons. I don't really have a side to back (there are complete ****s acting on both sides), but I think losing the goons would be a bad thing for Eve, and BoB getting taken down a notch would be a good one.
Good luck and have fun everyone. Remember people, it's just a game!
I am shocked and near catatonic at a display of intelligence in this post. It is like a hitting a pocket of clarity amidst a miasma of self interest, spin, and stupidity.
I'd like to thank my Mum, and my Dad, and T20, and...
Seriously though: it's easier to be objective when you don't have a stake in any of the sides. I think everyone involved needs to take a step back and calm down a bit. By all means, have a war ingame. Enjoy it. Spill podgoo everywhere. Just don't hate each other over it.
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Sir Tificate
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:27:00 -
[296]
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Goading people like you is half the fun of playing Eve.
Does that go next to the "I won a t'internet argument and got me an iq test" trophy?
See how easy it is?
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Sir Tificate
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:32:00 -
[297]
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Happydayz Hahahaha
The funny thing is that I think Remedial is going to the Eve fan fest in November.
I will be sure to bring a camcorder to see what goes down =D
Anyone launching attacks at him in real life (verbal or physical) has much more serious problems than a game.
Originally by: Dianabolic
If you guys really think you can keep eve seperate from rl with all the politics and oog coordination that goes on then you really are deluded.
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:32:00 -
[298]
Originally by: Sypher313 well this is an amazing thread, along with all the others 
BoB is a scary buncha peeps when they come after your behind, especially if they are annoyed at you or just want to stick it to you because they can. AND THEY CAN!! Its what makes them BOB.
The somewhat commical part of Molle's posts is the reactions from the "attacked" group each and every time, well almost everytime. Although i dont think ive seen quite this reaction before, but they are dealing with The Goons. Man alive they sure can post and whine, "please dont hurt all of us cuz of one guy and one behavior we all condone" 
Either way BOB is telling you you're a target, stop posting and whining about the "WHY" you're a target and go out there and "be the TARGET" or "know your role" in this case.
Totaly tasteless behavior condoned by Goons is what got you in this mess, you've condoned it on your forums and continued it cuz you think it is a good way to get people worked up and poke fun at them. I agree with what Dianabolic said in his post, you bunch just cant seem to get it and probably never will, so hence.......Guess what you've suceeded in working someone up Good Job 
Don't get me wrong Bob annoys the heck out of me in a "pew pew" shooty shooty way, and me and mine have been on the end of their fun more than enough times, now its your turn. You will be richer for the experience .
They (BoB) posted threads about us and the pwnage inflicted on us, and everyone else got loads of giggles out of it including little Goon Toons.
Well this is me ROFLMAO at Goons.  
I hope you all implode due to LG ammo penetrating your eggs.
Have a nice time in the swarm, you cant be "ended" in Eve you know, you can be beaten the hell out of tho and i suspect this is what is going to happen to you soon(tm), at least it appears that way.  
Take care 
your post looked like this to me:                        
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Pwadoc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:33:00 -
[299]
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Happydayz Hahahaha
The funny thing is that I think Remedial is going to the Eve fan fest in November.
I will be sure to bring a camcorder to see what goes down =D
Anyone launching attacks at him in real life (verbal or physical) has much more serious problems than a game.
BoB is launching real life verbal attacks against everyone in GS in this thread. Does that mean they have serious problems?
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:34:00 -
[300]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Jholo Artei
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Originally by: Dianabolic
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Goading people like you is half the fun of playing Eve.
Does that go next to the "I won a t'internet argument and got me an iq test" trophy?
Yes. You'll be receiving your "I used my dead friend as justification to start a space internet war" trophy in the mail very soon!
Hey, great idea. Maybe you guys should receive the "I proved video games are a valid excuse to abandon basic decency!" trophy. 
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
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Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:34:00 -
[301]
Originally by: Jholo Artei
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Originally by: Dianabolic
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Goading people like you is half the fun of playing Eve.
Does that go next to the "I won a t'internet argument and got me an iq test" trophy?
Yes. You'll be receiving your "I used my dead friend as justification to start a space internet war" trophy in the mail very soon!
Hey, great idea. Maybe you guys should receive the "I proved video games are a valid excuse to abandon basic decency!" trophy.  ----------
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Pricebot2000
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:35:00 -
[302]
Oh sweet more PvP!
You guys dont understand. You can't destroy Goonswarm because its not an entity. It is an idea, and you cant destroy ideas.
What is the idea you ask? No, its not about stupid politics that we don't care about. Its not about some stupid revenge of a dead guy. Its not about defending your e-honor. Our idea is about having fun. We love PvP and we are going to get more. We win already.
Most of us dont care if we lose the XZH campaign. If we get pushed back to Syndicate again and get camped in a station, we will get into our ALAHU AKBAR JIHAD frigates and and crush our enemies in waves. This is the most fun you can have in this game. Then we will rebuild our forces and stomp NORAD again and then start trouble somewhere again. We dont care.
We dont play for political statue. We dont care about e-honor. We care about fun in an internet spaceship pew pew lasers game.
We are Goons and you can not kill us.
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Jholo Artei
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:35:00 -
[303]
Originally by: Sypher313 well this is an amazing thread, along with all the others 
BoB is a scary buncha peeps when they come after your behind, especially if they are annoyed at you or just want to stick it to you because they can. AND THEY CAN!! Its what makes them BOB.
The somewhat commical part of Molle's posts is the reactions from the "attacked" group each and every time, well almost everytime. Although i dont think ive seen quite this reaction before, but they are dealing with The Goons. Man alive they sure can post and whine, "please dont hurt all of us cuz of one guy and one behavior we all condone" 
Either way BOB is telling you you're a target, stop posting and whining about the "WHY" you're a target and go out there and "be the TARGET" or "know your role" in this case.
Totaly tasteless behavior condoned by Goons is what got you in this mess, you've condoned it on your forums and continued it cuz you think it is a good way to get people worked up and poke fun at them. I agree with what Dianabolic said in his post, you bunch just cant seem to get it and probably never will, so hence.......Guess what you've suceeded in working someone up Good Job 
Don't get me wrong Bob annoys the heck out of me in a "pew pew" shooty shooty way, and me and mine have been on the end of their fun more than enough times, now its your turn. You will be richer for the experience .
They (BoB) posted threads about us and the pwnage inflicted on us, and everyone else got loads of giggles out of it including little Goon Toons.
Well this is me ROFLMAO at Goons.  
I hope you all implode due to LG ammo penetrating your eggs.
Have a nice time in the swarm, you cant be "ended" in Eve you know, you can be beaten the hell out of tho and i suspect this is what is going to happen to you soon(tm), at least it appears that way.  
Take care 
Luckily, goons play this game for the pvp. 
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:36:00 -
[304]
Originally by: Pwadoc
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Happydayz Hahahaha
The funny thing is that I think Remedial is going to the Eve fan fest in November.
I will be sure to bring a camcorder to see what goes down =D
Anyone launching attacks at him in real life (verbal or physical) has much more serious problems than a game.
BoB is launching real life verbal attacks against everyone in GS in this thread. Does that mean they have serious problems?
Broadly, yes. On the other hand, coming up to someone in actual real life (you know, face to face. Possibly even outside. With trees and stuff) and shouting at them over differing internet *****es is a very different kettle of fish.
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Jholo Artei
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:36:00 -
[305]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Jholo Artei
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Originally by: Dianabolic
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Goading people like you is half the fun of playing Eve.
Does that go next to the "I won a t'internet argument and got me an iq test" trophy?
Yes. You'll be receiving your "I used my dead friend as justification to start a space internet war" trophy in the mail very soon!
Hey, great idea. Maybe you guys should receive the "I proved video games are a valid excuse to abandon basic decency!" trophy. 
Hold on, I'm in the middle of packaging and shipping your "You should be focusing your righteous indignation at the people who made it into an in-game issue."
Pretty , dude.
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Anti Derivative
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:36:00 -
[306]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Hey, great idea. Maybe you guys should receive the "I proved video games are a valid excuse to abandon basic decency!" trophy. 
but, wouldn't the person recieving the "i used my dead friend as an excuse to start an internet space video game war" trophy, also receive that award?
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Internal Error
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:36:00 -
[307]
More Titans for the titan throne!
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Traxio Nacho
Sharks With Frickin' Laser Beams
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:36:00 -
[308]
Originally by: FATE LOL
Originally by: Traxio Nacho
Read the rules Alt posts are not allowed
Not an Alt, sorry.
Yes you are you have been playing 1 day yet seem to know everything about this you are an alt and therefore should not posting here, as all your doing is trying to inflamme the situation (not that, that is differcult).
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Pricebot2000
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:37:00 -
[309]
Edited by: Pricebot2000 on 27/07/2006 20:37:56 .
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Gindolar Dunblane
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:37:00 -
[310]
I just want you all to know that right now I am on the internet.
And I am angry.
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Cvuos
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:37:00 -
[311]
Originally by: Sypher313
Have a nice time in the swarm, you cant be "ended" in Eve you know, you can be beaten the hell out of tho and i suspect this is what is going to happen to you soon(tm), at least it appears that way.  
You know, I really don't care. If D2 had beaten us into the dust, made us mine veldspar or quit Eve I would've been angry. I would've felt defeated.
But if BoB does that, if BoB makes me run level 2s in .9 or start playing the Pro Pinball MMO, I won't really care. I and any other goon will fight like hell, but conquering Delve won't feel as good as conquering Cloud Ring.
It was going to happen BoB. We were waiting for you. But it didn't have to be like this.
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mejia lei
Bakuto
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:38:00 -
[312]
I'm going to take this to a different arena.
Whether I can make it or not, if I find out who did this, and I can meet you in person, I'm going to beat you like a ******* animal.
Forward that to the police.
Also, if you're too far away, I'll be taking my displeasure out on you as an archetype, and my legendary resourcefulness will remain intact and I might even wind up impressing myself.
You'll be better off with me beating you like an animal, and I do take trophies; it's been too long since I've gotten in a gratifying altercation, and I have more than enough maliciousness to make up for lost time.
If anyone finds out who this is/was, you may privately, anonymously inform me, along with why you think this person is the one.
I'll write 2004 off as a good year if I find out who you are, and am satisfied with my work; you'll wish I was some hacker kid who never raised his fists to someone before.
This isn't a warning, this is a threat.
You have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea.
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Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:38:00 -
[313]
Originally by: Anti Derivative
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Hey, great idea. Maybe you guys should receive the "I proved video games are a valid excuse to abandon basic decency!" trophy. 
but, wouldn't the person recieving the "i used my dead friend as an excuse to start an internet space video game war" trophy, also receive that award?
Hey, who said we couldn't have a 1st and a 2nd place prize? ----------
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Nova Cygni
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:38:00 -
[314]
I like the way they openly admit they read our forums, and then get all in a huffy when someone links something inappropriate here... even though they were reading it, real time, for probably months. WERE NOT USING THIS AS AN EXCUZE WE SWERE.
And to all of the people reading our forums right now, i hope you are enjoying what you are reading. Ive never seen us this worked up, and it is beautiful.
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:38:00 -
[315]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Jholo Artei
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Originally by: Dianabolic
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Goading people like you is half the fun of playing Eve.
Does that go next to the "I won a t'internet argument and got me an iq test" trophy?
Yes. You'll be receiving your "I used my dead friend as justification to start a space internet war" trophy in the mail very soon!
Hey, great idea. Maybe you guys should receive the "I proved video games are a valid excuse to abandon basic decency!" trophy. 
Do you actually post, or do you just furiously bash your enormous forehead against the keyboard until words come out?           
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Nebula Cygni
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:38:00 -
[316]
Edited by: Nebula Cygni on 27/07/2006 20:39:04 fapfapfapfap
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Clifton
Etamnanki Technologies
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:38:00 -
[317]
Originally by: deadtear
Originally by: Happydayz Hahahaha
The funny thing is that I think Remedial is going to the Eve fan fest in November.
I will be sure to bring a camcorder to see what goes down =D
He's gonna be the fat guy with the neckbeard.
No, the other fat guy with the neckbeard. No the other fat guy with the neckbeard. No, the other one.
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:38:00 -
[318]
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Originally by: HippoKing
Originally by: Happydayz Hahahaha
The funny thing is that I think Remedial is going to the Eve fan fest in November.
I will be sure to bring a camcorder to see what goes down =D
Anyone launching attacks at him in real life (verbal or physical) has much more serious problems than a game.
Originally by: Dianabolic
If you guys really think you can keep eve seperate from rl with all the politics and oog coordination that goes on then you really are deluded.
Bah, I'm happy keeping real life seperate from Eve. I wouldn't have it any other way, and if I felt I was failing to do that, I'd go back to Counterstrike.
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Sir Tificate
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:39:00 -
[319]
Originally by: Jholo Artei
Hold on, I'm in the middle of packaging and shipping your "You should be focusing your righteous indignation at the people who made it into an in-game issue."
Pretty , dude.
EDIT: OH GOD IT'S A TROPHY
That won't fit on a trophy. Stop lying.
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Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:39:00 -
[320]
Originally by: Jholo Artei Edited by: Jholo Artei on 27/07/2006 20:37:54
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Jholo Artei
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Originally by: Dianabolic
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Goading people like you is half the fun of playing Eve.
Does that go next to the "I won a t'internet argument and got me an iq test" trophy?
Yes. You'll be receiving your "I used my dead friend as justification to start a space internet war" trophy in the mail very soon!
Hey, great idea. Maybe you guys should receive the "I proved video games are a valid excuse to abandon basic decency!" trophy. 
Hold on, I'm in the middle of packaging and shipping your "You should be focusing your righteous indignation at the people who made it into an in-game issue."
Pretty , dude.
EDIT: OH GOD IT'S A TROPHY
I will not accept this award until the tear down the wall that seperates Germany (and also because I'm not indignant, I'm bored at work and having fun posting) ----------
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Parapolizei
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:39:00 -
[321]
Oh sweet more PvP!
You guys dont understand. You can't destroy Goonswarm because its not an entity. It is an idea, and you cant destroy ideas.
What is the idea you ask? No, its not about stupid politics that we don't care about. Its not about some stupid revenge of a dead guy. Its not about defending your e-honor. Our idea is about having fun. We love PvP and we are going to get more. We win already.
Most of us dont care if we lose the XZH campaign. If we get pushed back to Syndicate again and get camped in a station, we will get into our ALAHU AKBAR JIHAD frigates and and crush our enemies in waves. This is the most fun you can have in this game. Then we will rebuild our forces and stomp NORAD again and then start trouble somewhere again. We dont care.
We dont play for political statue. We dont care about e-honor. We care about fun in an internet spaceship pew pew lasers game.
We are Goons and you can not kill us.
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Zen TseTse
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:39:00 -
[322]
Edited by: Zen TseTse on 27/07/2006 20:40:36
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Oh and just to clear something up Tetsujin is having his roles restored and everything.
EDIT: He's the guy with the sig in question.
EDIT 2: So stop saying we kicked him
Hold on... 
1. he had his roles removed and was kicked... or not?
2. if his roles (etc) were removed then why?
3. if his roles (etc) were removed due to his behavior, then why restore them now?
If this is true, it makes it very clear that the leadership of goons absolutely condoned his behavior and ONLY gave the appearance of punishing him for fear of BoB response.
Y'all are not winning much sympathy...Goon formal announcement on matter
Ф Blood Eagle is a state of mind...
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:40:00 -
[323]
Originally by: mejia lei I'm going to take this to a different arena.
Whether I can make it or not, if I find out who did this, and I can meet you in person, I'm going to beat you like a ******* animal.
Forward that to the police.
Also, if you're too far away, I'll be taking my displeasure out on you as an archetype, and my legendary resourcefulness will remain intact and I might even wind up impressing myself.
You'll be better off with me beating you like an animal, and I do take trophies; it's been too long since I've gotten in a gratifying altercation, and I have more than enough maliciousness to make up for lost time.
If anyone finds out who this is/was, you may privately, anonymously inform me, along with why you think this person is the one.
I'll write 2004 off as a good year if I find out who you are, and am satisfied with my work; you'll wish I was some hacker kid who never raised his fists to someone before.
This isn't a warning, this is a threat.
You have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea.

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Ambassador Wolf
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:40:00 -
[324]
Tbh what ever you say is a waste of time now goons since this you have disrespected smoske even more in xzh local your a dosgrace to the community! And all this talk about using his name for political gain even thinking this makes you as lame as them!
Welcome to the fight BOB
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Obron Mettlo
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:40:00 -
[325]
Originally by: deadtear
Originally by: Happydayz Hahahaha
The funny thing is that I think Remedial is going to the Eve fan fest in November.
I will be sure to bring a camcorder to see what goes down =D
He's gonna be the fat guy with the neckbeard.
Glad you narrowed it down for us like that.
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Blue Rayes
Revenge Taste Like Chicken
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:40:00 -
[326]
Worst thread ever on this forums tbh, you guys should really stop posting and start shooting each other up ingame... 
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Anti Derivative
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:40:00 -
[327]
Originally by: mejia lei I'm going to take this to a different arena.
Whether I can make it or not, if I find out who did this, and I can meet you in person, I'm going to beat you like a ******* animal.
Forward that to the police.
Also, if you're too far away, I'll be taking my displeasure out on you as an archetype, and my legendary resourcefulness will remain intact and I might even wind up impressing myself.
You'll be better off with me beating you like an animal, and I do take trophies; it's been too long since I've gotten in a gratifying altercation, and I have more than enough maliciousness to make up for lost time.
If anyone finds out who this is/was, you may privately, anonymously inform me, along with why you think this person is the one.
I'll write 2004 off as a good year if I find out who you are, and am satisfied with my work; you'll wish I was some hacker kid who never raised his fists to someone before.
This isn't a warning, this is a threat.
You have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea.
you're not going to beat anyone like an animal, and you are a huge loser for posting crap like this.
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:40:00 -
[328]
Originally by: mejia lei I'm going to take this to a different arena.
Whether I can make it or not, if I find out who did this, and I can meet you in person, I'm going to beat you like a ******* animal.
Forward that to the police.
Also, if you're too far away, I'll be taking my displeasure out on you as an archetype, and my legendary resourcefulness will remain intact and I might even wind up impressing myself.
You'll be better off with me beating you like an animal, and I do take trophies; it's been too long since I've gotten in a gratifying altercation, and I have more than enough maliciousness to make up for lost time.
If anyone finds out who this is/was, you may privately, anonymously inform me, along with why you think this person is the one.
I'll write 2004 off as a good year if I find out who you are, and am satisfied with my work; you'll wish I was some hacker kid who never raised his fists to someone before.
This isn't a warning, this is a threat.
You have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea.
If you like beating people, you should join the police mister INTERNET TOUGH GUY!
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Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:41:00 -
[329]
Originally by: Homicidalnun
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Jholo Artei
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Originally by: Dianabolic
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Goading people like you is half the fun of playing Eve.
Does that go next to the "I won a t'internet argument and got me an iq test" trophy?
Yes. You'll be receiving your "I used my dead friend as justification to start a space internet war" trophy in the mail very soon!
Hey, great idea. Maybe you guys should receive the "I proved video games are a valid excuse to abandon basic decency!" trophy. 
Do you actually post, or do you just furiously bash your enormous forehead against the keyboard until words come out?           
Depends, am I trying to act like a member of GS or not? 
/me bashes head on keyboard and appends e-honor at the end
Hmmm, I can see how you guys would be so attracted to it.  ----------
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Andre Carnegi
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:42:00 -
[330]
Originally by: Sypher313 I'M NOT SMART AND I MISS THE POINT
BoB is well within their rights to shoot at us if they want to. We don't mind, we love it.
But when they use a very upsetting and illogical pretense, and call us names on the internet and paint us as the perprators of an UNSPEAKABLE OUTRAGE, then goons get upset.
We're not villains. BoB is wrong to portray us as such, and we won't stand for it.
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Berrik Radhok
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:42:00 -
[331]
Originally by: Ambassador Wolf Tbh what ever you say is a waste of time now goons since this you have disrespected smoske even more in xzh local your a dosgrace to the community! And all this talk about using his name for political gain even thinking this makes you as lame as them!
Welcome to the fight BOB
Well, you seSQUAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWK SQUAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWK SQUAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWK
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:42:00 -
[332]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Homicidalnun
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Jholo Artei
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Originally by: Dianabolic
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Goading people like you is half the fun of playing Eve.
Does that go next to the "I won a t'internet argument and got me an iq test" trophy?
Yes. You'll be receiving your "I used my dead friend as justification to start a space internet war" trophy in the mail very soon!
Hey, great idea. Maybe you guys should receive the "I proved video games are a valid excuse to abandon basic decency!" trophy. 
Do you actually post, or do you just furiously bash your enormous forehead against the keyboard until words come out?           
Depends, am I trying to act like a member of GS or not? 
/me bashes head on keyboard and appends e-honor at the end
Hmmm, I can see how you guys would be so attracted to it. 
No, that's BoB, only they do it while screaming about dead people.
We do it while laughing at dead people and playing Yakkety Sax.
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FATE LOL
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:42:00 -
[333]
Originally by: mejia lei I'm going to take this to a different arena.
Whether I can make it or not, if I find out who did this, and I can meet you in person, I'm going to beat you like a ******* animal.
Forward that to the police.
Also, if you're too far away, I'll be taking my displeasure out on you as an archetype, and my legendary resourcefulness will remain intact and I might even wind up impressing myself.
You'll be better off with me beating you like an animal, and I do take trophies; it's been too long since I've gotten in a gratifying altercation, and I have more than enough maliciousness to make up for lost time.
If anyone finds out who this is/was, you may privately, anonymously inform me, along with why you think this person is the one.
I'll write 2004 off as a good year if I find out who you are, and am satisfied with my work; you'll wish I was some hacker kid who never raised his fists to someone before.
This isn't a warning, this is a threat.
You have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea.
Holy Cow. CCP would you please report that IP number to the police, and maybe to whoever they are threating?
Wait, who are they threating?
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Alvinas
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:42:00 -
[334]
Ambassador Wolf, you are free to bring all whatever pain you feel you can deal because, at this point, a stone has been turned that you cannot heave over again.
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Cvuos
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:43:00 -
[335]
Originally by: Ambassador Wolf Tbh what ever you say is a waste of time now goons since this you have disrespected smoske even more in xzh local your a dosgrace to the community! And all this talk about using his name for political gain even thinking this makes you as lame as them!
Welcome to the fight BOB
Did you make sure to petition it?
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Ceist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:43:00 -
[336]
Originally by: mejia lei Whether I can make it or not, if I find out who did this, and I can meet you in person, I'm going to beat you like a ******* animal.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
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Itzena
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:43:00 -
[337]
Originally by: mejia lei I'm going to take this to a different arena.
Whether I can make it or not, if I find out who did this, and I can meet you in person, I'm going to beat you like a ******* animal.
Forward that to the police.
Also, if you're too far away, I'll be taking my displeasure out on you as an archetype, and my legendary resourcefulness will remain intact and I might even wind up impressing myself.
You'll be better off with me beating you like an animal, and I do take trophies; it's been too long since I've gotten in a gratifying altercation, and I have more than enough maliciousness to make up for lost time.
If anyone finds out who this is/was, you may privately, anonymously inform me, along with why you think this person is the one.
I'll write 2004 off as a good year if I find out who you are, and am satisfied with my work; you'll wish I was some hacker kid who never raised his fists to someone before.
This isn't a warning, this is a threat.
You have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea.
Hey, I think I've discovered SirMolle's alt!  |

Aeaon
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:43:00 -
[338]
Originally by: Alessia Karan
Originally by: Jingu Himiko
Originally by: Berrik Radhok
Originally by: Aeaon
Originally by: Pr1at Bunny
I will not publish the words and ts recording again as it drove the player , a rl girl , away from the game due teh extreme insults and ts recording about her medical health condition .
RKK and EVOL never apoligized .
Patently awaiting answer
quotin' dis
quoting for great justice
Was the girl a BoB member ? Where the insults made by a BoB member ? Where the insults publicied by a BoB member ?
Come back when you got a clue.
Patently waiting for a clue...
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Zen TseTse
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:43:00 -
[339]
Originally by: Zen TseTse Edited by: Zen TseTse on 27/07/2006 20:40:36
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Oh and just to clear something up Tetsujin is having his roles restored and everything.
EDIT: He's the guy with the sig in question.
EDIT 2: So stop saying we kicked him
Hold on... 
1. he had his roles removed and was kicked... or not?
2. if his roles (etc) were removed then why?
3. if his roles (etc) were removed due to his behavior, then why restore them now?
If this is true, it makes it very clear that the leadership of goons absolutely condoned his behavior and ONLY gave the appearance of punishing him for fear of BoB response.
Y'all are not winning much sympathy...
This issue deserves confirmation.
Goon formal announcement on matter
Ф Blood Eagle is a state of mind...
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Shadar Ishaan
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:43:00 -
[340]
Originally by: Homicidalnun
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Homicidalnun
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Jholo Artei
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Originally by: Dianabolic
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Goading people like you is half the fun of playing Eve.
Does that go next to the "I won a t'internet argument and got me an iq test" trophy?
Yes. You'll be receiving your "I used my dead friend as justification to start a space internet war" trophy in the mail very soon!
Hey, great idea. Maybe you guys should receive the "I proved video games are a valid excuse to abandon basic decency!" trophy. 
Do you actually post, or do you just furiously bash your enormous forehead against the keyboard until words come out?           
Depends, am I trying to act like a member of GS or not? 
/me bashes head on keyboard and appends e-honor at the end
Hmmm, I can see how you guys would be so attracted to it. 
No, that's BoB, only they do it while screaming about dead people.
We do it while laughing at dead people and playing Yakkety Sax.
Forgive me, I'm a beginner forum *****. All you other forum *****s look the same to me. ----------
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Jholo Artei
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:44:00 -
[341]
Originally by: FATE LOL
Originally by: mejia lei I'm going to take this to a different arena.
Whether I can make it or not, if I find out who did this, and I can meet you in person, I'm going to beat you like a ******* animal.
Forward that to the police.
Also, if you're too far away, I'll be taking my displeasure out on you as an archetype, and my legendary resourcefulness will remain intact and I might even wind up impressing myself.
You'll be better off with me beating you like an animal, and I do take trophies; it's been too long since I've gotten in a gratifying altercation, and I have more than enough maliciousness to make up for lost time.
If anyone finds out who this is/was, you may privately, anonymously inform me, along with why you think this person is the one.
I'll write 2004 off as a good year if I find out who you are, and am satisfied with my work; you'll wish I was some hacker kid who never raised his fists to someone before.
This isn't a warning, this is a threat.
You have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea.
Holy Cow. CCP would you please report that IP number to the police, and maybe to whoever they are threating?
Wait, who are they threating?
That's gotta be some post from elsewhere, it's too generic to be true anger. 
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Lame Bottinias
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:44:00 -
[342]
Edited by: Lame Bottinias on 27/07/2006 20:45:42
Originally by: mejia lei I'm going to take this to a different arena.
Whether I can make it or not, if I find out who did this, and I can meet you in person, I'm going to beat you like a ******* animal.
Forward that to the police.
Also, if you're too far away, I'll be taking my displeasure out on you as an archetype, and my legendary resourcefulness will remain intact and I might even wind up impressing myself.
You'll be better off with me beating you like an animal, and I do take trophies; it's been too long since I've gotten in a gratifying altercation, and I have more than enough maliciousness to make up for lost time.
If anyone finds out who this is/was, you may privately, anonymously inform me, along with why you think this person is the one.
I'll write 2004 (wth?) off as a good year if I find out who you are, and am satisfied with my work; you'll wish I was some hacker kid who never raised his fists to someone before.
This isn't a warning, this is a threat.
You have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea.
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Svett
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:45:00 -
[343]
Originally by: mejia lei I'm going to take this to a different arena.
Whether I can make it or not, if I find out who did this, and I can meet you in person, I'm going to beat you like a ******* animal.
Forward that to the police.
Also, if you're too far away, I'll be taking my displeasure out on you as an archetype, and my legendary resourcefulness will remain intact and I might even wind up impressing myself.
You'll be better off with me beating you like an animal, and I do take trophies; it's been too long since I've gotten in a gratifying altercation, and I have more than enough maliciousness to make up for lost time.
If anyone finds out who this is/was, you may privately, anonymously inform me, along with why you think this person is the one.
I'll write 2004 off as a good year if I find out who you are, and am satisfied with my work; you'll wish I was some hacker kid who never raised his fists to someone before.
This isn't a warning, this is a threat.
You have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea.
I like to move it, move it Ya like to ("Move it")
I like to move it, move it I like to move it, move it I like to move it, move it Ya like to ("Move it")
I like to move it, move it I like to move it, move it I like to move it, move it Ya like to ("Move it")
All girls all over the world, original Mad Stuntman pon ya case man! I love how all girls a move them body, and when ya move ya body, and move it, nice and sweet and sexy, alright!
Woman ya cute, and you don't need no make up, original cute body you a mek man mud up. Woman ya cute, and you don't need no make up, original cute body you a mek man mud up.
Woman! Physically fit, physically fit, physically, physically, physically fit Woman! Physically fit, physically fit, physically, physically, physically fit
Woman! Ya nice, sweet, fantastic Big ship on de ocean that a big titanic Woman! Ya nice, sweet, energetic Big ship on de ocean that a big titanic Woman! Ya nice, sweet, fantastic Big ship on de ocean that a big titanic Woman! Ya nice, sweet, energetic Big ship on de ocean that a big titanic
I like to move it, move it I like to move it, move it I like to move it, move it Ya like to ("Move it")
I like to move it, move it I like to move it, move it I like to move it, move it Ya like to ("Move it")
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deadtear
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:46:00 -
[344]
Originally by: Obron Mettlo
Originally by: deadtear
Originally by: Happydayz Hahahaha
The funny thing is that I think Remedial is going to the Eve fan fest in November.
I will be sure to bring a camcorder to see what goes down =D
He's gonna be the fat guy with the neckbeard.
Glad you narrowed it down for us like that.
I was hoping someone would catch on.
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Ceist
GoonFleet GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:46:00 -
[345]
Hang on let me quote this again:
Originally by: mejia lei This isn't a warning, this is a threat.
You have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea.
looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
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Moghydin
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:46:00 -
[346]
It looks like more and more ppl understand that this whole issue is just an excuse to justify the war against Goons. Despite all my anti-BoB posts on forums I had a great respect for BoB leadership, but now it went down by a large margin. The jokes were disgusting, but it happened 4 months ago. Whu didn't BoB dec the Goons then? Why to resurrect the dead and beaten to death thread? If you want to dec Goons because you're afraid that they might challenge you in the future, just do it. Using someone's death as an excuse to do staff in computer game is sick. I didn't expect that you'll get THAT low.
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Jholo Artei
GoonWaffe GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:46:00 -
[347]
Edited by: Jholo Artei on 27/07/2006 20:46:37
Originally by: Svett
Originally by: mejia lei I'm going to take this to a different arena.
Whether I can make it or not, if I find out who did this, and I can meet you in person, I'm going to beat you like a ******* animal.
Forward that to the police.
Also, if you're too far away, I'll be taking my displeasure out on you as an archetype, and my legendary resourcefulness will remain intact and I might even wind up impressing myself.
You'll be better off with me beating you like an animal, and I do take trophies; it's been too long since I've gotten in a gratifying altercation, and I have more than enough maliciousness to make up for lost time.
If anyone finds out who this is/was, you may privately, anonymously inform me, along with why you think this person is the one.
I'll write 2004 off as a good year if I find out who you are, and am satisfied with my work; you'll wish I was some hacker kid who never raised his fists to someone before.
This isn't a warning, this is a threat.
You have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea, you have no ******* idea.
I like to move it, move it Ya like to ("Move it")
I like to move it, move it I like to move it, move it I like to move it, move it Ya like to ("Move it")
I like to move it, move it I like to move it, move it I like to move it, move it Ya like to ("Move it")
All girls all over the world, original Mad Stuntman pon ya case man! I love how all girls a move them body, and when ya move ya body, and move it, nice and sweet and sexy, alright!
Woman ya cute, and you don't need no make up, original cute body you a mek man mud up. Woman ya cute, and you don't need no make up, original cute body you a mek man mud up.
Woman! Physically fit, physically fit, physically, physically, physically fit Woman! Physically fit, physically fit, physically, physically, physically fit
Woman! Ya nice, sweet, fantastic Big ship on de ocean that a big titanic Woman! Ya nice, sweet, energetic Big ship on de ocean that a big titanic Woman! Ya nice, sweet, fantastic Big ship on de ocean that a big titanic Woman! Ya nice, sweet, energetic Big ship on de ocean that a big titanic
I like to move it, move it I like to move it, move it I like to move it, move it Ya like to ("Move it")
I like to move it, move it I like to move it, move it I like to move it, move it Ya like to ("Move it")
Make way for quality BoB posting!
edit: sincere, not spacesarcasm
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Homicidalnun
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:46:00 -
[348]
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Homicidalnun
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Homicidalnun
Originally by: Shadar Ishaan
Originally by: Jholo Artei
Originally by: Dianabolic
Originally by: Sir Tificate
Originally by: Dianabolic
Ultimately many of the gf lot seem pretty intelligent, so why they continue to goad and wind up people they WANT to share a community to, when many of you are quite capable of finding SOMETHING ELSE to laugh at, it is alot like you just wanna change everyone and **** the rest.
Goading people like you is half the fun of playing Eve.
Does that go next to the "I won a t'internet argument and got me an iq test" trophy?
Yes. You'll be receiving your "I used my dead friend as justification to start a space internet war" trophy in the mail very soon!
Hey, great idea. Maybe you guys should receive the "I proved video games are a valid excuse to abandon basic decency!" trophy. 
Do you actually post, or do you just furiously bash your enormous forehead against the keyboard until words come out?           
Depends, am I trying to act like a member of GS or not? 
/me bashes head on keyboard and appends e-honor at the end
Hmmm, I can see how you guys would be so attracted to it. 
No, that's BoB, only they do it while screaming about dead people.
We do it while laughing at dead people and playing Yakkety Sax.
Forgive me, I'm a beginner forum *****. All you other forum *****s look the same to me.
BoB? Did you hear that? One person called you a bad thing. You should war dec their entire corp immediately.
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FATE LOL
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.27 20:47:00 -
[349]
I'd like to hear more on about BoB making a girl cry on the internet over a illness she had. If they are going to be putting themselves on the cross, I want to know this sin.
It takes a real tough guy to make a girl cry on the internet over a space game about her real life illness.
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