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Reinala
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.28 11:47:00 -
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Edited by: Reinala on 28/07/2006 11:52:42 double post
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Reinala
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.28 11:52:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski And? Sorry but this whole post, you bassicly shown you have no clue what you're talking about..
Well, now that you talked about it... I finally understood how . It's so easy...
No "thanks" though, it seems to me you don't need that .
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LeviUK
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.28 11:53:00 -
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Edited by: LeviUK on 28/07/2006 11:52:56 This thread made me laugh lots, thanks Andrea.
I've always flown caldari and amarr ships but having read this thread, I'm sorely tempted to go train minnie/proj buy a Mach just so I can post in this form and get some Andrea-loving.
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.28 11:55:00 -
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Originally by: LeviUK Edited by: LeviUK on 28/07/2006 11:52:56 This thread made me laugh lots, thanks Andrea.
I've always flown caldari and amarr ships but having read this thread, I'm sorely tempted to go train minnie/proj buy a Mach just so I can post in this form and get some Andrea-loving.
No problem and please do, Nothing more pleasing than the moaning of someone going all crazy about how they lost their machariel while using 4 guns and 4 missiles.
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chris lares
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Posted - 2006.07.28 12:03:00 -
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OMG andrea i thought someone just said they got better ships then u plz say im dreaming >.< andrea has the best ships in game the best setups u should listen to him/her cos he knows the game through and through!
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.28 12:05:00 -
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Edited by: Andrea Jaruwalski on 28/07/2006 12:04:51
Originally by: chris lares OMG andrea i thought someone just said they got better ships then u plz say im dreaming >.< andrea has the best ships in game the best setups u should listen to him/her cos he knows the game through and through!
Believe it or not, I got Chris on msn, i have a key binded to open my MSN, open a conversation with him and automaticly post the links of the topic which i need him to kiss my ass extremely well in it.
I didn't mean to press it this time tho.
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chris lares
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Posted - 2006.07.28 12:17:00 -
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Andrea loves me really and i know these setups i have been hearing are ermm rubbish and il help by posting my own lil setup :) just for u if anyone asks :)
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Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.28 12:34:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski Notice the Word "Easy", make sure you also look it up the dictionary if you're unaware of the meaning of it.
I noticed it. "Easy" missions, for me, are those where you warp in, shoot the little red things until they pop, and then go home. I must admit, however, that I don't just go for easy. I quite like fun too. Otherwise I'd probably be in a raven.
Quote: About posting your setup? Hey, You must be kidding me if you think i can't come up with your exact setup in under 1 minute without even thinking it all out.
I'm sure you can, for at least one of my setups. Quite often, though, people post in threads for the benefit of the OP. Rather than for the benefit of the trolls. Although by posting this I'm proving myself wrong...
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.28 12:38:00 -
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Originally by: Emily Spankratchet
Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski Notice the Word "Easy", make sure you also look it up the dictionary if you're unaware of the meaning of it.
I noticed it. "Easy" missions, for me, are those where you warp in, shoot the little red things until they pop, and then go home. I must admit, however, that I don't just go for easy. I quite like fun too. Otherwise I'd probably be in a raven.
Quote: About posting your setup? Hey, You must be kidding me if you think i can't come up with your exact setup in under 1 minute without even thinking it all out.
I'm sure you can, for at least one of my setups. Quite often, though, people post in threads for the benefit of the OP. Rather than for the benefit of the trolls. Although by posting this I'm proving myself wrong...
Oh geez, I've seen it all. A seasoned mission runner who actually enjoy doing them for the fun and not the ISK.
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Emily Spankratchet
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.28 12:45:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski Oh geez, I've seen it all. A seasoned mission runner who actually enjoy doing them for the fun and not the ISK.
Maybe. Or maybe someone who, when forced to run missions to make ISK, would rather it was slightly fun than as boring as mining.
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Andrea Jaruwalski
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.28 12:50:00 -
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Originally by: Emily Spankratchet Edited by: Emily Spankratchet on 28/07/2006 12:46:45
Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski Oh geez, I've seen it all. A seasoned mission runner who actually enjoy doing them for the fun and not the ISK.
Maybe. Or maybe someone who, when forced to run missions to make ISK, would rather it was slightly fun than as boring as mining.
Edit: Still, at least we've managed to avoid giving any helpful hints on Machariel setups. Which is the main point.
Well, There's a difference between me and you. You're actually able to give out help since you use it for missions.
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Zetaa
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.28 13:57:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski
There will always be people like me going in and say "you shouldn't fly them if you don't know how to fit it out", I do it especially for this ship, since it's an horror to see it used like crap and blown up because you're too idiotic to give it what it deserves.
But isn't this the point of this thread? To post and discuss various layouts for this ship? Give us a layout, Andrea, since you seem to be decent at it.
Wish folks would just offer what the OP asked for, or not reply at all, instead of saying, "Fly this ship instead", "noob!" and "you suck".
----- All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved. |
Anastasia Romanov
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Posted - 2006.07.28 14:56:00 -
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Thanks Zetaa
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.28 17:25:00 -
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Despite having a good chance to be flamed to Death for just posting, I will do it anyways.
High: 6xDual 650mm, 2x Heavy NOS Med: 100MN MWD, 1 Tracking Computer 2xWebbifier, Heavy Cap Booster Low: Large Armor Repairer, Medium Armor Repairer, 2x Hardener, Damage Control, 2x Gyrostabs.
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Leandro Salazar
Aeon Industries
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Posted - 2006.07.28 17:47:00 -
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Originally by: Deviana Sevidon Despite having a good chance to be flamed to Death for just posting, I will do it anyways.
High: 6xDual 650mm, 2x Heavy NOS Med: 100MN MWD, 1 Tracking Computer 2xWebbifier, Heavy Cap Booster Low: Large Armor Repairer, Medium Armor Repairer, 2x Hardener, Damage Control, 2x Gyrostabs.
Well if you ask for it... Can't use MWD in deadspace, so put in 100mn AB-II instead. One Fleeting webber is enough for all Inties xcept Spider Drones, so maybe replace one webber with a painter to help both your guns and your drones. The rest actually looks not so bad. Still people buying a Mach *should* have enough brain matter to come up with that themselves. A shame they don't. Makes you wonder where that money comes from... --------- ZOMG my sig was concordokkened! Link removed due to bad language on remote site. -wystler
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Zetaa
Amarr
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Posted - 2006.07.28 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: Leandro Salazar A shame they don't. Makes you wonder where that money comes from...
Corp friends? Weeks of mining? Asking nicely? (you can get far with just a smile and a wink... well, if you're female anways)
----- All men can see these tactics whereby I conquer, but what none can see is the strategy out of which victory is evolved. |
Anastasia Romanov
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Posted - 2006.07.28 19:24:00 -
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Well well well Mr Leandro u can be nice on your ovn a bit wired way... but its a start thanks for the input m8
And yes i am just a stupid girl, but with good guys like u, i am sure i will learn it some day.
Regards Anastasia
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Serenity Frye
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.07.28 21:15:00 -
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o dear
Andrea 4TW your too funny xD
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Raider Zero
Minmatar Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.14 18:08:00 -
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Edited by: Raider Zero on 14/08/2006 18:13:21 Since I've never tasted the flames of KR yet, I'll contribute and take some heat.
My setup is pretty easy on the fitting skills, which is part of the reason that I'll post it-it will change as I fill in some gaps in my training.
Highs- 6x1200mm Scouts, 2xBest Heavies you can get Mids-CR II's Lows-Armor tank of choice, 2-3 Gyros mixed in Drones-5x mission-specific
With this setup you can pretty easily walk through L4's. It's not like the Raven where you just park and shoot, but why would you want to do that with a ship that has good speed and agility anyway? If you need to have dual LAR II's running full-time, you have a strategy issue that a setup won't fix.
The reason for no AC setup: ammo cost and need to have a much better tank to fight in close. The time spent flying all over the place to get into AC range with good damage < being able to easily switch targets without wasting time imo. Arty cost significantly less to fire over time as well.
But, if you're going for ISK/hr., the Raven is probably the best-that's why every noob and their brother has them and why you'll find 10 parked outside of nearly every mission hub.
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xeom
Obsidian Sins
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Posted - 2006.08.14 18:16:00 -
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wouldnt it be better to get a fleet tempest? sence its better at shield tanking(6 slots i think).
and just fill the lows with PDS and gyros.
CCP where are our t2 shield power relays? | Join[..SIN] |
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KilROCK
Minmatar Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.14 18:22:00 -
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Edited by: KilROCK on 14/08/2006 18:21:50
Quote: Since I've never tasted the flames of KR yet, I'll contribute and take some heat.
I don't care how you use it. 1200mm, are overall better for missions. Almost the same DPS, but a larger clip, better tracking etc.. Just get T2 guns for the love of $#24@$21!!
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Raider Zero
Minmatar Federation
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Posted - 2006.08.14 19:23:00 -
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Originally by: KilROCK Edited by: KilROCK on 14/08/2006 18:21:50
Quote: Since I've never tasted the flames of KR yet, I'll contribute and take some heat.
I don't care how you use it. 1200mm, are overall better for missions. Almost the same DPS, but a larger clip, better tracking etc.. Just get T2 guns for the love of $#24@$21!!
Holy moly- my setup didn't get ripped up and KR contributed a positive note! KilROCK-T2 guns are certainly in my future, sir. Fly safe! (or fly dangerously if that suits your fancy)
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Gort
Rampage Eternal
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Posted - 2006.08.14 19:45:00 -
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Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski Edited by: Andrea Jaruwalski on 28/07/2006 11:42:55
Originally by: Kilael Jaase Do you troll every thread, Andrea, or just the ones that show people with better ships than you?
Get a grip, this is a gamethis is a game, this isn't life, or, then again in your case it might well be.
What? - And, Shove that "It's a game statement" where it makes you happy because i am 100% aware of it.
I think not.
It more likely appears to all the world you are still trying to figure out how to get out of Junior High School, among other things.
Low-tech sig: "When in doubt, empty the magazine." |
KilROCK
Minmatar Angel Deep Corporation
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Posted - 2006.08.14 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Gort
Originally by: Andrea Jaruwalski Edited by: Andrea Jaruwalski on 28/07/2006 11:42:55
Originally by: Kilael Jaase Do you troll every thread, Andrea, or just the ones that show people with better ships than you?
Get a grip, this is a gamethis is a game, this isn't life, or, then again in your case it might well be.
What? - And, Shove that "It's a game statement" where it makes you happy because i am 100% aware of it.
I think not.
It more likely appears to all the world you are still trying to figure out how to get out of Junior High School, among other things.
Been there, done that. Next
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Croak
Gallente
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Posted - 2006.08.18 07:24:00 -
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It's amazing what an AC/armor tanked Mach can do in L4's with a good faction AB, velocity and Zor hardwires, and a Snake set.
900+ m/s in deadspace sure do make your AC's and tank mo' effective, and is a lot of fun too. ;)
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Bluestealth
Minmatar Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.08.18 08:59:00 -
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Ewww using it for missions.... My old setup... 6 x 650mm Repeating Artillery II 2 x True Sansha Heavy Nosferatu Gist X-Type 100MN Afterburner(Microwarpdrive) 2 x Domination Stasis Webifier Domination Warp Disruptor True Sansha Heavy Capacitor Booster Centus X-Type Large Armor Repairer Core X-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener Core X-Type Armor Thermic Hardener Core X-Type Armor Explosive Hardener Internal Force Field Array 2 x Domination Gyrostabilizer 5 x Valkarie II 5 x Warrior II
if I was going to use it for missions... wait I wouldnt thats what a tempest is for.
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SonShadowCat
PINK TACO TORPERS
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Posted - 2006.08.18 09:36:00 -
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If I can do lvl 4 in my tempest with only T1/T2 items then you can SURELY do lvl 4 in a machariel. Actually, in 2 days I can fly my machariel so i'll have first hand experience.
Regardless, this is my tempest setup( only difference from mach will be an extra T2 gyro):
6 dual 650mm 2 heavy nos
1 T2 AB 4 T2 cap rechargers
2 large armor rep 3 hardners 2 T2 gyros
It works fine in most mish( never tried vengeance or extra, still don't trust myself).
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Calisto Cody
Minmatar The Black Swan Society
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Posted - 2006.08.18 10:05:00 -
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tempted to buy that mach now so i can tell you to stfu
oh i cant use t2 and 4/4
oh i forgot, you can, been there, seen it done, makes lots of money and does very well.
*takes a deep breath*
soon as my corpie wakes up i will post the set up for you Ana :)
What makes a man? Is it the woman in his arms? Just 'cause she has big ******* Or is the way He fights everyday? No, it's probably the ******* |
Bluestealth
Minmatar Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2006.08.18 10:27:00 -
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Edited by: Bluestealth on 18/08/2006 10:28:52
Originally by: SonShadowCat If I can do lvl 4 in my tempest with only T1/T2 items then you can SURELY do lvl 4 in a machariel. Actually, in 2 days I can fly my machariel so i'll have first hand experience.
Regardless, this is my tempest setup( only difference from mach will be an extra T2 gyro):
6 dual 650mm 2 heavy nos
1 T2 AB 4 T2 cap rechargers
2 large armor rep 3 hardners 2 T2 gyros
It works fine in most mish( never tried vengeance or extra, still don't trust myself).
My Tempest setup for lvl 4s was 6x 800mm Autocannon II 2x 'arbalest' cruise launchers 100mn AB II Fleeting Webber 3x Cap Recharger IIs Large Armor Rep II 3-4 tech 2 hardeners 1-2 gyro IIs 5 Medium, 5 light drones There is no mission this setup cant complete, you do have to use some brain for some missions though.
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Mo Moneh
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Posted - 2006.11.14 02:01:00 -
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Critique me on the following setup:
Highs: -2 large 'diminishing' nosferatus -6 T2 800mm Repeating Artillery
Meds:
1 T2 100mn AB 1 90% Webber 1 Optical Tracking Computer OR Target Painter OR 2nd 90% Webber 2 T2 Cap Recharger
Lows:
-1 LAR II -1 MAR II -3 Rat Specific T2 Hardeners -2 Cap Power Relay
Drones: -1 Heavy Armor Repair Drone -4 Medium Armor Repair Drones
Repair Drones + MAR II > LAR II (by about 10 dps)
With nos going, this setup will run all day for me (assuming I turn the AB off once I'm in range).
My Primary concern obviously being that I am able to hit orbiting frigates w/ help from the tracking enhancer(s) and webber(s). Im not too familiar with projectile turrets (I'm gallente and been using blasters for up close and personal till now). Any suggestions greatly appreciated. Particularly as to what that second med slot support item should be.. Im not sure which of those 3 options would help more (2nd webber, tracking computer, or target painter).. The tracking computer is certainly tempting because it helps my max range a bit too.
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