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Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.29 04:46:00 - [61] Welcome to Tranquility; do you think you're the only ones who've been affected by unplayable lag since late 2004? Nebba - The Vocal Majority
Conan Shlatz GoonWaffe GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.29 04:48:00 - [62] Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Welcome to Tranquility; do you think you're the only ones who've been affected by unplayable lag since late 2004? This is literally unplayable, even three hours after the battle. The entire system has crashed, if you go outside of a station, you will be stuck in an infinite loop of system loading messages. The game treats you as if you were in warp the entire time, and even people not involved in the battle are having the same problems.
Drogarn Langlay Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.29 04:50:00 - [63] 2006.07.29 02:00:00 Victim: Tranquility Alliance: EVE Corporation: CCP Destroyed Type: Node Solar System: XZH-4X System Security Level: -0.7 Involved Parties: Name: Goonswarm, D¦ and Friends (laid the final blow)
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.29 04:52:00 - [64] Originally by: Conan Shlatz Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Welcome to Tranquility; do you think you're the only ones who've been affected by unplayable lag since late 2004? This is literally unplayable, even three hours after the battle. The entire system has crashed, if you go outside of a station, you will be stuck in an infinite loop of system loading messages. The game treats you as if you were in warp the entire time, and even people not involved in the battle are having the same problems. Of course, though this isn't the first time these problems have occurred. I've been in fleet movements where the entire server crashed/rebooted. Nebba - The Vocal Majority
CrestoftheStars GoonFleet	Posted - 2006.07.29 04:58:00 - [65] Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Welcome to Tranquility; do you think you're the only ones who've been affected by unplayable lag since late 2004? It's pretty unusual to have every ship in a system completely unresponsive for several hours. It seems to be still a bit a tetchy. Mostly back to normal though now.
Anti Derivative Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.29 04:58:00 - [66] Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Welcome to Tranquility; do you think you're the only ones who've been affected by unplayable lag since late 2004? ive been through bigger fleet battles that were lagged to hell months ago. This is a different problem. Probably kicked off by large fleet battles, but doesn't seem like a network or load issue, and isn't a client desynchronization issue (because you can quit, open a new client, enter the system and be still stuck in a state where you cant do anything, even though you're off grid and 25000km from the battle) We had people all over the system unable to make their ship do anything. The problem is still here in some capacity after the GMs moved everyone out. And no fleet battles are happening anymore.
Nahual Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.29 04:59:00 - [67] Edited by: Nahual on 29/07/2006 05:01:23 Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Originally by: Conan Shlatz Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Welcome to Tranquility; do you think you're the only ones who've been affected by unplayable lag since late 2004? This is literally unplayable, even three hours after the battle. The entire system has crashed, if you go outside of a station, you will be stuck in an infinite loop of system loading messages. The game treats you as if you were in warp the entire time, and even people not involved in the battle are having the same problems. Of course, though this isn't the first time these problems have occurred. I've been in fleet movements where the entire server crashed/rebooted. I've been through it plenty of times and so have a few other people here, it's a shame nothing has been done to make the servers better, we know it happens, CCP just try to ignore it, hoping it will go away. ----------------------------------------------- FateCorp
shivan Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.07.29 05:00:00 - [68] Seeing as your all busy fighting the lag and unable to fight each other, mind if i sneak in, grab my maller from the station and sneak out? ----------------------------- Need a new sig. Mail me with offers and ideas. 50mill isk to the sig that I use.
Anti Derivative Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.29 05:01:00 - [69] Originally by: shivan Seeing as your all busy fighting the lag and unable to fight each other, mind if i sneak in, grab my maller from the station and sneak out? go for it. but when you come out of warp you'll need to ctrl+q, and then log back in, otherwise youll never come out of warp.
Trepkos Angel Deep Corporation	Posted - 2006.07.29 05:30:00 - [70] The new server hardware = pointless...? -------- ANGEL DEEP CORPORATION
Spike Spegel Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.29 05:35:00 - [71] Originally by: Trepkos The new server hardware = pointless...? Tehre is no new server hardware and all money was embezzled Spike out __________________________ Dust in the wind....
Xgkkp GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.29 05:39:00 - [72] Originally by: Trepkos The new server hardware = pointless...? As far as I remember, it was just a new database backend that they installed. Somebody else theorized that perhaps all the activity today has 'accelerated' the degeneration (memory leaks?) which means that the servers have to be restarted every day... as in this is what would happen regularly if we didn't have a daily downtime.
insolace GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.29 05:42:00 - [73] Quote: I will be closing this petition if there is nothing further, and would like to ask you please, to file any further problems or incidences in a new petition. Thank you for your patience in this matter and please accept our apologies for the inconvenience caused by this System's trouble. We will look into this and try to find out what may have caused this problem in order to avoid such trouble in future. The most likely explanation for now, is that it was caused not only by a heavy load on the node on account of the number of players in the system, but also by numbers of bookmarks which the 0.0 pilots tend to carry along. These are at present causing huge lag, as it seems, unfortunately so since they were never intended for the kind of use, they are employed in at present. I wish you the best of luck for now, and hope you'll be spared further trouble.
Spike Spegel Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.29 05:45:00 - [74] Ohh no!! BM?? You must be pulling my leg... come on! Spike out __________________________ Rust in the wind....
Justor JeiGallo GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.29 05:50:00 - [75] So bookmarks that aren't being queued up and used are to blame? OK guys, time to dump all our insta sets and slowboat to each other. How'd I know that it would be "the players' fault"?
Johanen Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.29 06:04:00 - [76] Originally by: Justor JeiGallo So bookmarks that aren't being queued up and used are to blame? OK guys, time to dump all our insta sets and slowboat to each other. How'd I know that it would be "the players' fault"? Because ther servers would work as intended if there were no players there to throw wrenches in the works. And XZH is right back to "Wow, we can't even move" mode.
Anti Derivative Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.29 06:05:00 - [77] The server stuck again in a battle between about 70 people total. Nobody in system can move.
Torm Ilmater Shadow Company Alektorophobia	Posted - 2006.07.29 06:15:00 - [78] Obviously this is CCP's ebil plan to get you to play the EVE CCG. Now you have something to do while docked with your aggressors. Just don't make any bookmarks or you might crash real life. God might be ****ed at that.
mynnna Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.29 06:39:00 - [79] I decided to warp out early in the battle for some reason...dunno why, as far as I could tell I was taking one volley of thermal cruise missiles every twelve seconds or so, nothing my Scorpion's large armor rep couldn't handle. Then I warped back. Oops. R.I.P. Scorpion. I also suffered the thing with a big white blob and having the entire system on top of me. Oh well.
Franky B Mentally Unstable Enterprises	Posted - 2006.07.29 06:45:00 - [80] heres a friendly caution: try not posting GM conversations on the forums, it'll get removed and you'll be warned. though it was still insightfull :p
Jargoon GoonWaffe GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.29 07:45:00 - [81] Originally by: Torm Ilmater Obviously this is CCP's ebil plan to get you to play the EVE CCG. Now you have something to do while docked with your aggressors. Hahaha
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.29 07:47:00 - [82] xzh was always a nightmare, everytime we fly from fountain into cloudring all our pilots have to reboot when they arrive just to be able to fly thier ships at all :\| dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Cosy Ceaon Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.29 08:09:00 - [83] dunno if u see but none from CCP post here i dont belive that CCP dont care about so plz rebuild the thread on other forum like general whit constructive post and maybie u call CCP attention also ISD why u dont more the thread is about a sistem/node crash/server lag on corp forum or u are to busy on alt hunt ?
ParMizaN Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.07.29 09:32:00 - [84] Massive massive battles are still unsupported really.. sig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris
Yeep GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.29 09:51:00 - [85] Massive battles may be unsupported but when local has dropped below 150 members over 5 hours later yet firing a weapon still results in having to re-log, something is very wrong.
McDeth187 GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.29 10:08:00 - [86] Ya, something really bad must have happened in the eve server room today. Bad like the XZH Cluster Server burst into flames, burned up the entire server room, dropped onto the floor and melted its way to the center of the Earth causing massive earthquakes and floods, because that would be the only explenation for the massive*****up that is XZH right now.
Grayton GoonWaffe GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.07.29 11:02:00 - [87] Personally, I'd rather see Kali delayed for 6 months if CCP decided to sit down and just rewrite the entire networking code, bookmarking system, and everything else that causes horrific lag, from scratch to be as optimized as possible- even if that means GoonSwarm will have the "Rokh advantage" delayed for 6 months. I know they're doing the best they can, but this game has been around for years now, and with each update more code is just loaded on top of other code which cannot really be avoided for a live action game where everything has to be compatible and work. I imagine that the network coding for this game is quite a mess due to this by now, just like a lot of other MMOs. Perhaps one day, maybe the Vista client, things will start to get better... And I hope CCP understands that we aren't really **ed at them- we're just **ed because something extremely hard to avoid is preventing us from playing this fine game.
Little Naga The Sword and The Shield	Posted - 2006.07.29 11:09:00 - [88] Originally by: RodanX Edited by: RodanX on 29/07/2006 04:34:15 I'm getting very annoyed with CCP and the GMs right about now. Someone on TS just mentioned that in response to a petition, a GM told him that there was nothing wrong with the server and certain parts of the system are just "a little laggy." This isn't the first time we have received a response to that effect either. There are 300+ goons/D2/etc. who can tell you that this is complete garbage. If you can't fix your mistakes, CCP, at least own up to them. This isn't the way to keep subscribers. CCP wants u to fight using Eve Card Game. all fleet battles must use new server>>cards... "i got u now..my card says uber tempest with 1400mm has got you pwn..", "Oh noes, I will reverse ur card with an invulnerabitly feeell.", "Nice one.. Eh can we smack using pencils pls..?", "okiess..
Eleese Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.29 11:19:00 - [89] Not being funny or anything..but 500 people in a big blob is well past reinforcing the node solution. Tbo the node has probably been boosted but it will have very little effect on 500man blob fights.
Shirei Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.29 11:21:00 - [90] I guess GF are learning that lag goes both ways... When it was them holding more POS and D2 had to destroy them, lag gave GF a few successes. Now that D2 has the POS advantage, it is them who get the advantage from the lag.

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