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Sigurd Ross	Posted - 2006.07.29 23:03:00 - [1] On one of the threads I was reading, one of the moderators asked for it, so here it is! From the home office in Jita... 10. Non-static world where individuals can really (with a hell of a lot of effort) conquer territory for longer than "until the battlefield resets!" 9. A forum with relatively mature discourse and moderators that can take a joke! 8. Crafting that actually matters, and can make stuff people actually use! 7. An healthy economy, with enough money sinks (pirates) to keep prices low (mostly)! 6. You don't have to muck around in sewers and stab rats (well okay, you can muck around in Minmatar space and stab at 'rats)! 5. There's no freaking Barrens unless you bring it with you (just type in "CHUCK NORRIS LOL!" in your local chat and watch the sparks fly)! 4. There is no "best ship" that everyone eventually gets, that has to be grinded by repeating some "instance" where you kill some "boss monster" over and over and over again. 3. For god's sake, about time someone made an MMO that wasn't in a plain vanilla fantasy world! 2. Healers (logistics) are of limited use, and gangs aren't paralyzed by their abscence, sitting around in local, shouting "NEED HEALOR!!!!1" Aaaaand the number one reason that EVE is better than WoW... 1. No. Freaking. Elves! If you got a better one, I'm all ears.
Takaharu Tsuyoshi	Posted - 2006.07.29 23:06:00 - [2] Linkage
Eilie Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.29 23:14:00 - [3] Originally by: Sigurd Ross On one of the threads I was reading, one of the moderators asked for it, so here it is! From the home office in Jita... 10. Non-static world where individuals can really (with a hell of a lot of effort) conquer territory for longer than "until the battlefield resets!" 9. A forum with relatively mature discourse and moderators that can take a joke! 8. Crafting that actually matters, and can make stuff people actually use! 7. An healthy economy, with enough money sinks (pirates) to keep prices low (mostly)! 6. You don't have to muck around in sewers and stab rats (well okay, you can muck around in Minmatar space and stab at 'rats)! 5. There's no freaking Barrens unless you bring it with you (just type in "CHUCK NORRIS LOL!" in your local chat and watch the sparks fly)! 4. There is no "best ship" that everyone eventually gets, that has to be grinded by repeating some "instance" where you kill some "boss monster" over and over and over again. 3. For god's sake, about time someone made an MMO that wasn't in a plain vanilla fantasy world! 2. Healers (logistics) are of limited use, and gangs aren't paralyzed by their abscence, sitting around in local, shouting "NEED HEALOR!!!!1" Aaaaand the number one reason that EVE is better than WoW... 1. No. Freaking. Elves! If you got a better one, I'm all ears. QFT
Stanis Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.29 23:14:00 - [4] Quote: 1. No. Freaking. Elves! lmao :)
Sarleena Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.29 23:15:00 - [5] EVE > WoW Because: We have Veldspar. Life should NOT be a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in an attractive and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, champagne in one hand, strawberries in the oth
Sigurd Ross	Posted - 2006.07.29 23:52:00 - [6] BONUS! 11. The hordes and hordes of metrosexual, angsty, smirking Night Elf Sephiroth wannabees are replaced by hordes and hordes of chunky, bald, brick-headed Civire guys with swords.

Eldo Davip	Posted - 2006.07.30 00:04:00 - [7] aww c'mon i can't beleive no one mentioned CCP > Blizzard. Email Us \| Forum Rules \| Our Website

Neprox Smirk.	Posted - 2006.07.30 00:06:00 - [8] What is wow?
Samirol Ore Mongers	Posted - 2006.07.30 00:22:00 - [9] Originally by: Eldo Davip aww c'mon i can't beleive no one mentioned CCP > Blizzard. meh, the chinese communist party really isn't my thing...
Adoro Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.30 01:40:00 - [10] Originally by: Neprox What is wow? Dunno... --------- I love escrow :)
Scoundrelus The Black Fleet	Posted - 2006.07.30 02:05:00 - [11] Why EVE is better then WoW? Observe: "Level 45 warrior LFG!" "Level 25 hunter LFG!" "Group looking for Priest!" "WTS Shield of Destroying Things" "WTB Sword of Total Obliteration Of All Things Man Made" shudder ===============================================
illiander	Posted - 2006.07.30 02:39:00 - [12] lets see: WoW: hey want to join my guild? me: no thanks WoW: You sure? Im maxed level and have all the best equipment, my guild can cut down your grind level from months to weeks!! come join the best pvp guild in <insert one of the 50 servers>. me: how old are you? WoW: im 10 turning 11! me: ... o dear god ...
Ninjja Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.30 02:53:00 - [13] Originally by: Neprox What is wow? thats gotta go in a sig! Clicky: Eve Most Wanted List
Cmdr Sy Gone But Not Forgotten	Posted - 2006.07.30 02:58:00 - [14] Originally by: Sigurd Ross Aaaaand the number one reason that EVE is better than WoW... 1. No. Freaking. Elves! Truth. Jeremy from Pure Pwnage had a nice little monologue about why WoW sucks, and this is basically it. I will be blunt - never in my life will I spend a single unit of currency on any online game even remotely associated with the "Fantasy" genre. Suspend my disbelief? Ha!
Dao 2 Species 5618 Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.07.30 03:32:00 - [15] 1) theres a real death penalty :\| 2) u have multiple "armors" (ships) to suit whatever ur doing ;p 3)pvp is none *** 4).0 space ;p ------------------------------------------------ NEWLY ADDED ON 1/19 (though applies to all posts before ;p) the usual "I don't represent my corp or alliance" and stuffs like that Also the gal
pilgrim8	Posted - 2006.07.30 03:43:00 - [16] im gonna hurl sum1 please make a new topic to counter it. never played wow. just lineage. if my kid hadn't got rid of his acct hmmmmmmm hail supreme commander red alert 3 star trek armada 2 red alert 2 and and and star trek online. please omg hurry up and come out wtt
Ezok Lyrad Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.30 07:35:00 - [17] I am an ELF what are you referring too? ******************************************************* *******************************************************
AKULA UrQuan Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.30 07:43:00 - [18] 11: I never played WoW
loony zoon	Posted - 2006.07.30 08:00:00 - [19] Originally by: Sigurd Ross 1. No. Freaking. Elves! If you got a better one, I'm all ears. First you say no elves, then you say that you are all ears. Bit of a contradiction?

Ivan Kirilenkov	Posted - 2006.07.30 09:39:00 - [20] 11) The Fantastic Moderator-Team :D Oh, wait. I posted this with my mod-alt. Dang..

Evelyn Lavi	Posted - 2006.07.30 10:23:00 - [21] Originally by: Ivan Kirilenkov 11) The Fantastic Moderator-Team :D Oh, wait. I posted this with my mod-alt. Dang.. Aww, you know we love ya! Been to the WoW forums lately? If you say anything bad about their crappy game, the gestapo rapples down from a helicopter and beats you with truncheons.
Jim McGregor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.30 10:29:00 - [22] Originally by: Eldo Davip aww c'mon i can't beleive no one mentioned CCP > Blizzard. We just dont like overstating the obvious. By the way, blizzards new "world pvp" is about collecting dust and trying to hold towers. Sounds like an arcade game to me. Would probably be fun if there wasnt a zillion bored level 60's with epic gear in those instances. But there will be, and at least they will have some fun i guess. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Ithildin Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.30 10:40:00 - [23] No Gnomes When I kill someone, he's dead Customer support is swift and good (as long as you don't try to get ships back...) By "PvP" CCP means you blow other players assets up. By "PvP" blizzard means you sit down and play a friendly game of CTF. There's more than two factions in EVE. I pick up an item, I can sell it to whom ever... ... even though I picked it up from someone's corpse CCP releases are always bug free... no wait... The are no Gnomes in EVE NPC's aren't running the show. Players are. I really hate gnomes. Dark skies torn apart Heavens open before me I, the light of death
Evelyn Lavi	Posted - 2006.07.30 10:47:00 - [24] Addenum! - Opening the starmap for the first time. Do you remember when you did? My love affair with EVE began when I clicked "map" and said "my god, it's full of stars!'
Lardarz B'stard Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.30 10:52:00 - [25] Space ships > silly little wizardy things in forests any day tbh Exiles Recruitment
Esper4nza	Posted - 2006.07.30 11:00:00 - [26] Originally by: Evelyn Lavi Addenum! - Opening the starmap for the first time. Do you remember when you did? My love affair with EVE began when I clicked "map" and said "my god, it's full of stars!' Heh, hate to be cliched and all that, but the very reason for this post is to state QFT. ;) I remember a coupla years ago going round to pick up a mate to go out for the night, and as he was shutting his computer down he just showed me a few screens of his new game "EVE". The moment I saw the star map with "Active Players" showing was awesome. A real "Moment" from my many fond gaming memories.
Miss Overlord	Posted - 2006.07.30 11:02:00 - [27] 12.) more mostly mature gamers not l33t kiddies that said those taht do smacktalk the best tend to be kiddies. Rest of us just hit block
Evelyn Lavi	Posted - 2006.07.30 11:08:00 - [28] Addenum part deux! - The game is complex, complicated, with a steep learning curve and hard lessons for the unwary. Yes, this is a good thing. Little Billy might think he can pwn someone in his Ibis, but finds out that although there's no abstract "PvE zone" concept in EVE, he will be CONCORDOKKEN'd nonetheless. (happened to me, years ago) Little Billy might get laughed at when he asks "what is best class pls" and might realize there's games out there without tiresome D+D mechanics. (this one really happened) Little Billy might get frustrated and leave... but if he was an asshat, it just makes the game more attractive for the rest of us
Akkarin Pagan Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.30 11:09:00 - [29] Edited by: Akkarin Pagan on 30/07/2006 11:15:35 I have never played WoW, but in my gaming back catalogue there is Guild Wars (surprisingly similar apparently), and a couple of other non MMO rpgs. What imo make EvE better is that it is Sci Fi for a change (as much as I like Fantasy SciFi>Fantasy ), and I can change ships to do different things, instead of being limited to 1 skill tree and item set dictated by my starting character. Akkarin EDIT:Also no one (afaik) has died form overplaying EVE (I love dt.....sometimes) Linkage Do not press this button
HappyKitten Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.30 11:14:00 - [30] I don't care about how it shapes up to eve, or how many 12year olds play it or what. It's always going to suck, simply because it has prevented me getting a warcraft 4.
Ather Ialeas Viziam	Posted - 2006.07.30 11:19:00 - [31] Originally by: Neprox What is wow? A popular computer game known also as Wizard of Wor. ________________________________________________ Originally by: Nidhoggur How could I possibly be wrong, using the figures directly from Eve?
Kehmor Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.30 11:35:00 - [32] Originally by: Eldo Davip aww c'mon i can't beleive no one mentioned CCP > Blizzard. TBH as far as companies go blizzard are pretty good. They had excellent support for all their other games, with free online play. EG: Diablo, diablo 2, warcraft 3. WoW was a big let down... Other reasons: -Players of all ages can viably group together -Solo or small group play is an option -You don't have to plan your mission a week in advance and make sure 39 other friends are on. -There is some actual risk involved. -I play eve.
Testy Mctest	Posted - 2006.07.30 11:46:00 - [33] Top 10 reasons why WoW is better than Eve 10. You can have a Diablo pet. ZOMG! 9. You don't need 17 alts to get anywhere 8. NO T2 LOTTERY! 7. There isn't one race that's head and shoulders above all the others 6. PvE is good, and has a point 5. Manual character control, not point and click nonsense 4. Has a PvP ranking system, however bad it is 3. DPS and survivability isn't the be all and end all of your character 2. Skill > Numbers And the number one reason: 1. It. Has. Taurens. HOOF! Bare in mind I can't stand Wow, but just to point out, there are two sides to every coin :) Originally by: Lord Violent EvE is slowly becoming a game for the stupid being catered to by devs, as they lack ability to kill/survive anything.
cold lazarus Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.30 11:51:00 - [34] EVE has better. RP guilds forums & mods people playing the game. risk v reward factor chat channels and lots more i cba top state. here's an example of a guild i joined in wow Guild leader... RP guild Broken Arrows LFM me... can i join? invited straight away 5 people in the guild usual hails and hello's follow Me... hey why you call your guild broken arrows was pointless arrows taken ? Guild leader.... please keep all guildchat in character! Me... /leave guild Me... /quit guild took me forever to remember the quit guild option.
Aodha Khan Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.30 11:57:00 - [35] Originally by: Testy Mctest Top 10 reasons why WoW is better than Eve 10. You can have a Diablo pet. ZOMG! 9. You don't need 17 alts to get anywhere 8. NO T2 LOTTERY! 7. There isn't one race that's head and shoulders above all the others 6. PvE is good, and has a point 5. Manual character control, not point and click nonsense 4. Has a PvP ranking system, however bad it is 3. DPS and survivability isn't the be all and end all of your character 2. Skill > Numbers And the number one reason: 1. It. Has. Taurens. HOOF! Bare in mind I can't stand Wow, but just to point out, there are two sides to every coin :) 10. Um, yhh right. Great. 9. Neither do you in Eve. 8. Yeh, just nothing at all. 7. Same in Eve. 6. If the point is to grind skill then you can keep it. 5. Fair enough. 4. If Eve ever gets this I'll quit. 3. No, the be and and end all is to be a higher level than your opponent. Then you win. 2. Same as Eve. 1. So?! So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
Zeknichov Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.30 12:03:00 - [36] I played EVE when it first came out and eventually got bored of it after about 3 months. I played WoW for over a year. EVE has politics, a dynamic player revolved persistent world, a good PvP system a well developed economy and a learning curve high enough that most players I don't want to be playing with are turned off from the game. The biggest problem with MMOs is the lack of player involvement in the dynamics of the world. That is EVE's strongest point and why after 3 years I'm back playing EVE again. I regret ever leaving. I had my hopes up for PvP, Blizzard promised PvP. They gave us capture the flag instead. When I kill someone I want to know they died.
Fadibah Jaynerk Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.30 12:31:00 - [37] Why Eve > WoW Nice region, we'll take it... for longer than 24 hours, actually. There's no "best setup", just different kits for different tasks. And a three month player can beat a three year player by setting up specifically for it. No sharding. No. Damned. Murlocs. Why WoW > Eve Escrow. Alliance politics (this is the flip side of having more than two factions ofc) Lag.
dec0 Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.30 12:38:00 - [38] Ooooo look at me im 30 years old! Im gonna go collect gold for the evening with my magical golden bucket in the enchanted forest under the mystical mountian, then im going to get a quest of the elves and dwarves to go and kill dragons with children ...seriously though..CAN I JOIN YOUR GUILD
BenYGW Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.30 12:46:00 - [39] Originally by: Fadibah Jaynerk Why Eve > WoW Nice region, we'll take it... for longer than 24 hours, actually. There's no "best setup", just different kits for different tasks. And a three month player can beat a three year player by setting up specifically for it. No sharding. No. Damned. Murlocs. Why WoW > Eve Escrow. Alliance politics (this is the flip side of having more than two factions ofc) Lag. Alliance politics is the best thing in this game imo. Taking regions, actually changing the map and all that. Altho, its also the worst (in the case of a couple of alliances anyway)
Jowen Datloran Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.30 12:48:00 - [40] MMO's with "character level" and "end game" concepts are on my No Touch list. ---------------- Mr. Science & Trade Institute
Microsoft Sam	Posted - 2006.07.30 12:59:00 - [41] eve > wow because when i say: dons his wizards hat and grabs his wand people know im about to be disgusting.. but in wow they'd think i wanted to do something.. as if pff grabs his wizards hat brb i need to load up msn
Novarei Ninth Column	Posted - 2006.07.30 13:17:00 - [42] These forums can go **** themselves. --------------------
HappyKitten Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.30 13:23:00 - [43] Originally by: Novarei These forums can go **** themselves. After extensive thought, I'm having trouble picturing this. Could you draw a diagram?
Chiwanta	Posted - 2006.07.30 13:25:00 - [44] I can think of one situation where WoW is better than EVE. At least in WoW the devs dont endorse real money for game money trade just to make a few extra bucks.
Chadawahee Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.30 13:27:00 - [45] Originally by: Neprox What is wow? wow is what you say when you start up eve for the first time
Portrait Swap Deep Core Mining Inc.	Posted - 2006.07.30 13:27:00 - [46] Originally by: Chiwanta I can think of one situation where WoW is better than EVE. At least in WoW the devs dont endorse real money for game money trade just to make a few extra bucks. sigh.. tkae a hint -------------- Richness: --------------
Chiwanta	Posted - 2006.07.30 13:29:00 - [47] Originally by: Portrait Swap Originally by: Chiwanta I can think of one situation where WoW is better than EVE. At least in WoW the devs dont endorse real money for game money trade just to make a few extra bucks. sigh.. tkae a hint I already have, i fully understand that ccp dont care about cheating happening in their game as long as they profit out of it.
Electus Masari Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.30 13:37:00 - [48] Eve FTW Fleet Admiral (CEO) The Jedi Knights [-TJK-] http://www.thejediknights.co.uk We Are Currently Recruiting
cold lazarus Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.30 14:02:00 - [49] @ Chiwanta if i bought tc's i would rather know my money is going to ccp than some insert low income country here sweatshop owner. you will never stop them from doing this ccp know this so why not let ccp earn more money to put into this game?
Isolda Kargil	Posted - 2006.07.30 14:33:00 - [50] Thinking outside the box works. It's not just which sword or shield you pick, it's how those things work together. No elves indeed. And IMO most important: if you pvp, and you lose your ship, you lose your ship... you actually lose something! -Isolda Advertising space for hire. Contact in game.
Novarei Ninth Column	Posted - 2006.07.30 14:45:00 - [51] Originally by: HappyKitten Originally by: Novarei These forums can go **** themselves. After extensive thought, I'm having trouble picturing this. Could you draw a diagram? I think such a thing could get me banned. --------------------
Zenemis Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.30 15:15:00 - [52] Originally by: Aodha Khan Originally by: Testy Mctest Top 10 reasons why WoW is better than Eve 10. You can have a Diablo pet. ZOMG! 9. You don't need 17 alts to get anywhere 8. NO T2 LOTTERY! 7. There isn't one race that's head and shoulders above all the others 6. PvE is good, and has a point 5. Manual character control, not point and click nonsense 4. Has a PvP ranking system, however bad it is 3. DPS and survivability isn't the be all and end all of your character 2. Skill > Numbers And the number one reason: 1. It. Has. Taurens. HOOF! Bare in mind I can't stand Wow, but just to point out, there are two sides to every coin :) 10. Um, yhh right. Great. 9. Neither do you in Eve. 8. Yeh, just nothing at all. 7. Same in Eve. 6. If the point is to grind skill then you can keep it. 5. Fair enough. 4. If Eve ever gets this I'll quit. 3. No, the be and and end all is to be a higher level than your opponent. Then you win. 2. Same as Eve. 1. So?! Try playing the game before attacking it. I've played both, and I obviously prefer EVE, but both games were made for different audiences, and WoW is undoubtedly the top "Fantasy" MMOG in existance, currently. EVE is targeted towards Sci-Fi lovers, WoW is targeted towards... simpletons
PeeWee Pee	Posted - 2006.07.30 15:46:00 - [53] Edited by: PeeWee Pee on 30/07/2006 15:46:21 Originally by: Sigurd Ross If you got a better one, I'm all ears. 10. you can do anything you want 9. you can whine about anything you want 8. you can fly any ship you want 7. you can buy anything you want include isk, accountz, weed 6. you can whure everything in da game 5. you can steal all you want from macro miners 4. you can camp anything you want gates, corpse, whorum, more.. 3. you can watch all da video you want 2. there is inflight movie last but not least 1. you can be any size you want no one will make fun of it
Zex Maxwell	Posted - 2006.07.30 15:49:00 - [54] i like the fact that you can do your skills when you are not playing.
PeeWee Pee	Posted - 2006.07.30 15:50:00 - [55] Originally by: Aodha Khan Originally by: Testy Mctest Top 10 reasons why WoW is better than Eve 10. You can have a Diablo pet. ZOMG! 9. You don't need 17 alts to get anywhere 8. NO T2 LOTTERY! 7. There isn't one race that's head and shoulders above all the others 6. PvE is good, and has a point 5. Manual character control, not point and click nonsense 4. Has a PvP ranking system, however bad it is 3. DPS and survivability isn't the be all and end all of your character 2. Skill > Numbers And the number one reason: 1. It. Has. Taurens. HOOF! Bare in mind I can't stand Wow, but just to point out, there are two sides to every coin :) 10. Um, yhh right. Great. 9. Neither do you in Eve. 8. Yeh, just nothing at all. 7. Same in Eve. 6. If the point is to grind skill then you can keep it. 5. Fair enough. 4. If Eve ever gets this I'll quit. 3. No, the be and and end all is to be a higher level than your opponent. Then you win. 2. Same as Eve. 1. So?! all you have to say to this dude CCP > BLIZZARD
Aodha Khan Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.30 15:50:00 - [56] Originally by: Zenemis Try playing the game before attacking it. I've played both, and I obviously prefer EVE, but both games were made for different audiences, and WoW is undoubtedly the top "Fantasy" MMOG in existance, currently. EVE is targeted towards Sci-Fi lovers, WoW is targeted towards... simpletons What gave you the idea I hadn't played the game? Being 'top' in something does not make it the 'best' fantasy game. In terms of functionality/technology it set the MMORPG world back about 10 years. In terms of bringing people into MMORPGs then it's 'top' and obviously well marketed. So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
Rabbitgod Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.07.30 15:51:00 - [57] Edited by: Rabbitgod on 30/07/2006 15:51:55 I have played both and I found wow to be very dull after a while. Tho I did rather enjoy killing entire horde parties by ambushing them in non-instanced dungens. Or killing someone serveral LVs above me... repeatedly... I could almost hear the whiny 14 year old voice screaching "F'ing Hax0r grifer SOB! I'm gonna come to your house and kill you!" ---{24th member of the 23}---
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.07.30 15:53:00 - [58] I just bought a copy of WOW as PC World had mispriced it @ ú5. TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Alberta Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.30 20:53:00 - [59] 1. I play Eve. 2. I don't play WoW. What more reason do you need?
Dethis Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.30 22:41:00 - [60] Originally by: Fadibah Jaynerk Why Eve > WoW Nice region, we'll take it... for longer than 24 hours, actually. There's no "best setup", just different kits for different tasks. And a three month player can beat a three year player by setting up specifically for it. No sharding. No. Damned. Murlocs. Why WoW > Eve Escrow. Alliance politics (this is the flip side of having more than two factions ofc) Lag. have you played wow? the lag and unplayability was much worse -------- Kill em all and let god sort em out
Verite Rendition Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.30 23:26:00 - [61] Originally by: Ithildin No Gnomes When I kill someone, he's dead Customer support is swift and good (as long as you don't try to get ships back...) By "PvP" CCP means you blow other players assets up. By "PvP" blizzard means you sit down and play a friendly game of CTF. There's more than two factions in EVE. I pick up an item, I can sell it to whom ever... ... even though I picked it up from someone's corpse CCP releases are always bug free... no wait... The are no Gnomes in EVE NPC's aren't running the show. Players are. I really hate gnomes. No no, Gnomes are great. I've run out of ammo for my Snowball launcher, I think Gnomes would work nicely as a replacement. ---- AUS Corp Lead Megalomanic
Benefactor	Posted - 2006.07.31 06:51:00 - [62] Fantasy is so very tiresome as a generic MMO medium. Perhaps there are "exceptions" I haven't seen yet, but if I've stabbed one rat on the way to stabbing a thousand more so I can buy myself a "Hunting Knife of the Donkey," I've stabed them all. Fantasy, in spite of its origins in "imagination" is the most unimaginative of places these days. Look, more *** elves who are arrogant and secretive! OMG dwarves that live in the ground and are proud! Never saw this crap before!
Novarei Ninth Column	Posted - 2006.07.31 07:08:00 - [63] Originally by: PeeWee Pee CCP > BLIZZARD Tell me the part where CCP have millions of subscribers and blizzard dont. --------------------
anotleam	Posted - 2006.07.31 07:23:00 - [64] Originally by: Novarei Originally by: PeeWee Pee CCP > BLIZZARD Tell me the part where CCP have millions of subscribers and blizzard dont. Tell me the part where blizzard does a mmorpg with a player politics (other than rp), territory control, and real player run market :P
Evelyn Lavi	Posted - 2006.07.31 07:26:00 - [65] Originally by: Novarei Originally by: PeeWee Pee CCP > BLIZZARD Tell me the part where CCP have millions of subscribers and blizzard dont. You, sir, are a fanboy. Popularity does not MAKE anything better. Quite the contrary. I suppose Wal-Mart is the best retailer in the world, then. And McDonald's is the finest cuisine money can buy.
Twilight Moon Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.31 07:28:00 - [66] Edited by: Twilight Moon on 31/07/2006 07:28:19 Originally by: Sarmaul I just bought a copy of WOW as PC World had mispriced it @ ú5. I done somethnig similar... 2 weeks later I'm now wondering why I bothered. I keep trying to play with the EVE mindset, and its driving me up the wall that I cant cross class. Think I might bin it to be honest. --------------------- Sig to come soonish.
Stella Centauri Spontaneous Defenestration Coalition of Carebear Killers	Posted - 2006.07.31 09:23:00 - [67] You're forgetting the part where 40-50+ million skillpoint pilots still can have fun flying tier 1 frigates, and when someone with less than 1mil skillpoint asking to join a gang with these pilots get a "sure, get in a frig and tackle/scout for us". --------------------------------------- Stella - If your boss gets to choose.
Smalum Dark Knights of Deneb Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.07.31 09:32:00 - [68] You don't need a top ten list for this. In EVE, your interaction with other players, use of your imagination and good ideas is directly connected to your success and game experience. Imho, EVE is one of the few MMOG's that actually deserve the description "multiplayer". Sig Removed. Please keep sigs within the 400*120 pixel and 24000 byte limit. E-mail us with any questions. -ReverendM
Avon Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.31 09:39:00 - [69] Honestly I don't think Eve is better than WoW, they just appeal to different people. It is easy to bash WoW, and personally it isn't my type of game, but it must be doing something right. And, let's face it, if it wasn't for WoW, MMOG's in general would not have seen the uplift they have. Also, whilst the concept of Eve is far more to my tastes than WoW, it would be hard to argue that it is any way a better product. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Evelyn Lavi	Posted - 2006.07.31 10:05:00 - [70] Originally by: Avon Honestly I don't think Eve is better than WoW, they just appeal to different people. It is easy to bash WoW, and personally it isn't my type of game, but it must be doing something right. And, let's face it, if it wasn't for WoW, MMOG's in general would not have seen the uplift they have. Also, whilst the concept of Eve is far more to my tastes than WoW, it would be hard to argue that it is any way a better product. Rebel without a cause alert! Seriously, what does WoW have besides ridiculously successful marketing, delirious "OMG ITS BLIZZARD!" fanboys to push it along, and simplistic gameplay, generic fantasy setting, and lame quasi-anime cartoony graphics to push it above EVE? If you have something to say besides "I'm gonna play devil's advocate without substantiating my claims!" then do so.
Avon Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.31 10:22:00 - [71] Originally by: Evelyn Lavi Originally by: Avon Honestly I don't think Eve is better than WoW, they just appeal to different people. It is easy to bash WoW, and personally it isn't my type of game, but it must be doing something right. And, let's face it, if it wasn't for WoW, MMOG's in general would not have seen the uplift they have. Also, whilst the concept of Eve is far more to my tastes than WoW, it would be hard to argue that it is any way a better product. Rebel without a cause alert! Seriously, what does WoW have besides ridiculously successful marketing, delirious "OMG ITS BLIZZARD!" fanboys to push it along, and simplistic gameplay, generic fantasy setting, and lame quasi-anime cartoony graphics to push it above EVE? If you have something to say besides "I'm gonna play devil's advocate without substantiating my claims!" then do so. Flip it around. What is wrong with WoW as a game, ignoring personal taste? You might not like WoW, and I don't either, but it is a highly polished product, and very popular. Comparing Eve and WoW as games is a futile task, akin to comparing punk and pop. Pop may be studio perfected, mass marketed, general appeal music, but I'll take some raw punk over it any day. The pop songs are probably 'better' products, I just don't like them. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur
Benco97 Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.31 10:55:00 - [72] Wait wait wait... I think this has to be said... Wow isn't actually a bad game. Yes, I played myself, the only reason I don't play any more is that I couldn't "Connect" with any of my characters, it just didn't FEEL right, this coupled with the fact that nothing I do has any importance to anyone just killed it for me but I fully well know that many people enjoy playing this game, and let's think about this for a moment, if it brings people pleasure without harming anything.. what bad is it? Please, the next time you bash the game just think about WHY you're bashing it and what's being gained from it. Like I said, I DO NOT play the game anymore but I have been with Eve since the beginning and right away eve made me feel at home, I was comfortable in my ship. I find that i'm lacking the words to explain how the game makes me feel... Snug Radio - Fart like a Pirate
D'Mur Pilru	Posted - 2006.07.31 11:31:00 - [73] Originally by: Evelyn Lavi Seriously, what does WoW have besides ridiculously successful marketing, delirious "OMG ITS BLIZZARD!" fanboys to push it along, and simplistic gameplay, generic fantasy setting, and lame quasi-anime cartoony graphics to push it above EVE? Yes indeed, OMG it's Blizzard. Take a look at the trackrecord of Blizzard. They are to be acknowledged as a decent gaming company, that has done more then it's fair share for the gaming community, and stands for quality. Starcraft anyone?? As for the OMG it's stupid fantasy, we want sci-fi Eve, please...anyone ever hear of Zelazny, Niven, Vance, Le Guin, Tanith Lee, Leibner, etc etc. Fantasy is a genre, please, get over it. Some people like it, get over it, and get over yourselves please, biased CCP fanboys! Regards, D'Mur Dune Spacefaring Guild (another 'lame' fantasy setting I suppose??)
wierchas noobhunter Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.31 12:02:00 - [74] Originally by: D'Mur Pilru Originally by: Evelyn Lavi Seriously, what does WoW have besides ridiculously successful marketing, delirious "OMG ITS BLIZZARD!" fanboys to push it along, and simplistic gameplay, generic fantasy setting, and lame quasi-anime cartoony graphics to push it above EVE? Yes indeed, OMG it's Blizzard. Take a look at the trackrecord of Blizzard. They are to be acknowledged as a decent gaming company, that has done more then it's fair share for the gaming community, and stands for quality. Starcraft anyone?? As for the OMG it's stupid fantasy, we want sci-fi Eve, please...anyone ever hear of Zelazny, Niven, Vance, Le Guin, Tanith Lee, Leibner, etc etc. Fantasy is a genre, please, get over it. Some people like it, get over it, and get over yourselves please, biased CCP fanboys! Regards, D'Mur Dune Spacefaring Guild (another 'lame' fantasy setting I suppose??) plz cansel your eve subscibtion now !~ or else .... join col ! now
Naburi NasNaburi Rens Nursing Home	Posted - 2006.07.31 12:19:00 - [75] Lets see. Took me 3 runs to see the true beauty of EVE..during the breaks I was playing WOW and some EQ2. PvP has a meaning, you can lose it all or win a bunch. Having no ranking system other than the sec status is perfect, it cuts the mindless gankfests to a minimum. Looking for a group to somewhere doesent mean you have to be lvl 60, with at least all blue gear to be allowed to join. Looking for a group to somewhere doesnt require you to be skilled in a certain way to be allowed to join. No Elves..actually.. no female Elves who jump up and down every few moments, bouncing their boobies and making a face like a baby when its peeing in its pampers. Most important point for me to finally delete WOW off my drive was that I got soo tired of all the 13 year olds talking like if they knew everything - while in RL they would fail each and every test in school. On top of deleting WoW, I decided to not touch any mmos of that kind anymore. 6 years of sword and magic, 6 years of level grind and raid farming, 6 years of extreme competition lvl/gear/pvp ranking wise was enough for me. I truely and fully enjoy the freedom EVE gives me.
natashii Developmental Neogenics Amalgamated	Posted - 2006.07.31 13:35:00 - [76] Originally by: Ithildin I really hate gnomes. zomg it was YOU who stole my lawn gnomes. You are so omgwtfhaxpwnd the next time you stumble upon my lawn. ============================== For God's sake, shake me. Shake me like a British nanny. Shoot 'em all in ze face!
Corphus Sha Kharn Corp Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.07.31 15:42:00 - [77] Originally by: Cmdr Sy Originally by: Sigurd Ross Aaaaand the number one reason that EVE is better than WoW... 1. No. Freaking. Elves! Truth. Jeremy from Pure Pwnage had a nice little monologue about why WoW sucks, and this is basically it. I will be blunt - never in my life will I spend a single unit of currency on any online game even remotely associated with the "Fantasy" genre. Suspend my disbelief? Ha! actually theres nothing wrong with the fantasy genere BUT: it would be much more awsome if they would make a mmorpg based on real medievil life (catching the balck plague not included, u get it easier than u think ). with the probs of getting armour (which was a very costly thing in that days), horses (which actually need food and stuff), weapons(which need maintance like everything else, rust doesnt go away by itself) etc. all that stuff could be a good start for a game for a more marture comunity. eve is a good example of a truly good mmo since here ppl work for driven by the most logic force: greed for money and powrer (fame and hot chicks etc. etc.) its good that way coz the whole community acts like a real world, real markets, real currency issues, real offers and demand. its closer to real life than any other game and therefore fascinates ppl like u and me that much.
Kari Kayira Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.31 17:09:00 - [78] I'm not for thinking you can even compare WoW to EVE objectively. I mean, personal opinions and taste are great and all, but really, just like ********s, everyone has an opinion, and they're all full of crap. I do happen to play both EVE and WoW. For different reasons. I enjoy both games, and don't particularly think one is better than the other. As far as comparing CCP to Blizzard goes, once again, I don't think it can be done objectively. They both have to deal with two very different player bases. The sorts of people that are attacted to one game are, for the most part as proven by this thread, the sorts not attacted to the other. Both games have their pros and cons, but comparing them is apples to oranges. Some people like one, some people like the other, some people like both.
Sarmaul 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.07.31 18:14:00 - [79] Originally by: Twilight Moon Edited by: Twilight Moon on 31/07/2006 07:28:19 Originally by: Sarmaul I just bought a copy of WOW as PC World had mispriced it @ ú5. I done somethnig similar... 2 weeks later I'm now wondering why I bothered. I keep trying to play with the EVE mindset, and its driving me up the wall that I cant cross class. That's exactly what I did when I played the trial and thought it was a load of rubbish. I'm currently playing it and comparing it to other games in general, not just EVE as they are totally different (it's like comparing Mortal Kombat to Virtua Fighter) and it's actually rather enjoyable :) TEAM MINMATAR FORUMS - In Rust We Trust -
Vanlade Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.31 21:05:00 - [80] EvE is vastly superior to WoW in all possible and unpossibl aspects, because I Vanlade, say so. Quality over Equality
HolographicEntrypoint The Collective	Posted - 2006.07.31 21:49:00 - [81] I played Korean Beta and the guys didnt even know what a "woman" is. --- ^ Custom Sigs for ISK, learning rights on sourcefiles My custom Sigs Gallery
Wesos Tri	Posted - 2006.08.01 02:25:00 - [82] Originally by: Sigurd Ross On one of the threads I was reading, one of the moderators asked for it, so here it is! From the home office in Jita... 10. Non-static world where individuals can really (with a hell of a lot of effort) conquer territory for longer than "until the battlefield resets!" 9. A forum with relatively mature discourse and moderators that can take a joke! 8. Crafting that actually matters, and can make stuff people actually use! 7. An healthy economy, with enough money sinks (pirates) to keep prices low (mostly)! 6. You don't have to muck around in sewers and stab rats (well okay, you can muck around in Minmatar space and stab at 'rats)! 5. There's no freaking Barrens unless you bring it with you (just type in "CHUCK NORRIS LOL!" in your local chat and watch the sparks fly)! 4. There is no "best ship" that everyone eventually gets, that has to be grinded by repeating some "instance" where you kill some "boss monster" over and over and over again. 3. For god's sake, about time someone made an MMO that wasn't in a plain vanilla fantasy world! 2. Healers (logistics) are of limited use, and gangs aren't paralyzed by their abscence, sitting around in local, shouting "NEED HEALOR!!!!1" Aaaaand the number one reason that EVE is better than WoW... 1. No. Freaking. Elves! If you got a better one, I'm all ears. Moved from EVE General Discussion - Wrangler QFE and no Gnomes!
Henrik Yssuts Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.01 05:45:00 - [83] Originally by: Cmdr Sy Originally by: Sigurd Ross Aaaaand the number one reason that EVE is better than WoW... 1. No. Freaking. Elves! Truth. Jeremy from Pure Pwnage had a nice little monologue about why WoW sucks, and this is basically it. I will be blunt - never in my life will I spend a single unit of currency on any online game even remotely associated with the "Fantasy" genre. Suspend my disbelief? Ha! look kyle-like, i can play with my balls!

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