Griefing is already banned in EVE.

Well surely you agree with your leader on #3 at least.

I don't i feel you need to be held responsible for who you let into your corp. Awoxing is the part of the game many people enjoy and on a variety of different levels. just because its a part of the game you don't like doesn't mean it needs to be removed.

hisec awoxing is absolutely stupid from a business and retention perspective as it disincentivizes players from reaching out to genuine confused newbies. The dueling mechanic completely removes the 'need' for corp members to shoot one another outside of Concord enforcement.

It needs to be removed because it causes new players to leave the game.

In the words of The Mittani:

#1: Only allow players who are criminals (-5 sec status or below) to suicide gank. This allows players to defend themselves and each other from suicide ganks. CONCORD should NOT be protecting suicide gankers.

To compensate for these changes, the NPC police should be removed from highsec, and players should have an option to "go criminal" if they choose to do so.

#2: Only corps with POSs or POCOs should be war decable. Basically create two types of corps. One type "interbus registered" can anchor POSs, POCOs and other structures, but in return can be war decced. There is a fee of 100m to become registered. Another type of corp "unregistered" can not anchor structures, but also can't be war decced. This is the default type of corp. This stops high SP mercs from griefing new player social corps of players still trying to learn the game.

#3: Remove highsec awoxing. CONCORD should protect corp mates from each other. Even people like The Mittani agree that the whole "safari" mechanic should be removed from the game.

#1: Only allow players who are criminals (-5 sec status or below) to suicide gank. This allows players to defend themselves and each other from suicide ganks. CONCORD should NOT be protecting suicide gankers.

To compensate for these changes, the NPC police should be removed from highsec, and players should have an option to "go criminal" if they choose to do so.

#2: Only corps with POSs or POCOs should be war decable. Basically create two types of corps. One type "interbus registered" can anchor POSs, POCOs and other structures, but in return can be war decced. There is a fee of 100m to become registered. Another type of corp "unregistered" can not anchor structures, but also can't be war decced. This is the default type of corp. This stops high SP mercs from griefing new player social corps of players still trying to learn the game.

#3: Remove highsec awoxing. CONCORD should protect corp mates from each other. Even people like The Mittani agree that the whole "safari" mechanic should be removed from the game.

These changes should help prevent new players from being "griefed." Right now highsec is one of the least newbie friendly areas of the game because new players have no way to protect themselves from being griefed. Hopefully a day comes when I no longer have tell new players "join a lowsec or nullsec corp as quickly as possible or you will end up quitting the game.

#1: Only allow players who are criminals (-5 sec status or below) to suicide gank. This allows players to defend themselves and each other from suicide ganks. CONCORD should NOT be protecting suicide gankers.

To compensate for these changes, the NPC police should be removed from highsec, and players should have an option to "go criminal" if they choose to do so.

#2: Only corps with POSs or POCOs should be war decable. Basically create two types of corps. One type "interbus registered" can anchor POSs, POCOs and other structures, but in return can be war decced. There is a fee of 100m to become registered. Another type of corp "unregistered" can not anchor structures, but also can't be war decced. This is the default type of corp. This stops high SP mercs from griefing new player social corps of players still trying to learn the game.

#3: Remove highsec awoxing. CONCORD should protect corp mates from each other. Even people like The Mittani agree that the whole "safari" mechanic should be removed from the game.

These changes should help prevent new players from being "griefed." Right now highsec is one of the least newbie friendly areas of the game because new players have no way to protect themselves from being griefed. Hopefully a day comes when I no longer have tell new players "join a lowsec or nullsec corp as quickly as possible or you will end up quitting the game."

It needs to be removed because it causes new players to leave the game.

In the words of The Mittani:

Getting killed in PvP causes new players to leave the game. We obviously need to keep anyone from dying in PvP.

Not being reimbursed for 100% of your ships hull/equipment when you die causes new players to leave the game. We obviously need to reimburse 100% of the cost.

Not being able to AFK mine in peace causes new players to leave the game. AFK miners should obviously not be able to be attacked.

Not being able to instawarp your assets between locations causes new players to leave the game. We obviously should be able to instawarp assets.

Not being able to buy skillpoints with ISK causes new players to leave the game. We should obviously be able to buy skillpoints with isk.


Should I keep going, or do you get the point?

In the words of The Mittani:

There are lots of ways to protect yourself against the above issues in OP's post. However these are often learnt the hard way, and are incredibly damaging to the whole atmosphere of the game - don't trust anyone, etc etc.

I've gone to a starter system in a Orca, offered to boost newbros and been declined because they assumed I was going to kill them. I've offered Perfect Orca boosts to ice and ore miners in a couple of systems, and again been told they're not interested because I could be trying to gank them. Is this the atmosphere we want to give to the people who bring new blood to our universe?

#1: Only allow players who are criminals (-5 sec status or below) to suicide gank. This allows players to defend themselves and each other from suicide ganks. CONCORD should NOT be protecting suicide gankers.

To compensate for these changes, the NPC police should be removed from highsec, and players should have an option to "go criminal" if they choose to do so.

#2: Only corps with POSs or POCOs should be war decable. Basically create two types of corps. One type "interbus registered" can anchor POSs, POCOs and other structures, but in return can be war decced. There is a fee of 100m to become registered. Another type of corp "unregistered" can not anchor structures, but also can't be war decced. This is the default type of corp. This stops high SP mercs from griefing new player social corps of players still trying to learn the game.

#3: Remove highsec awoxing. CONCORD should protect corp mates from each other. Even people like The Mittani agree that the whole "safari" mechanic should be removed from the game.

These changes should help prevent new players from being "griefed." Right now highsec is one of the least newbie friendly areas of the game because new players have no way to protect themselves from being griefed. Hopefully a day comes when I no longer have tell new players "join a lowsec or nullsec corp as quickly as possible or you will end up quitting the game."

There are lots of ways to protect yourself against the above issues in OP's post. However these are often learnt the hard way, and are incredibly damaging to the whole atmosphere of the game - don't trust anyone, etc etc.

Yes this is what drew me and many others to the game. The challenge that comes from playing against the other people and when you can't trust anyone the bonds you form with the people you do trust become that much stronger.

+1

I do very little PvP (meaning, fleets to actively hunt), but if PvP wasn't as big of a part of this game, I wouldn't be around.

1 - Don't think this is a good idea. In real life anyone can attack you at anytime, and Eve should certainly not be more sheltered than real life.

3 - Probably agree - The awox mechanic never made much sense.

#1: Only allow players who are criminals (-5 sec status or below) to suicide gank. This allows players to defend themselves and each other from suicide ganks. CONCORD should NOT be protecting suicide gankers.

To compensate for these changes, the NPC police should be removed from highsec, and players should have an option to "go criminal" if they choose to do so.

#2: Only corps with POSs or POCOs should be war decable. Basically create two types of corps. One type "interbus registered" can anchor POSs, POCOs and other structures, but in return can be war decced. There is a fee of 100m to become registered. Another type of corp "unregistered" can not anchor structures, but also can't be war decced. This is the default type of corp. This stops high SP mercs from griefing new player social corps of players still trying to learn the game.

#3: Remove highsec awoxing. CONCORD should protect corp mates from each other. Even people like The Mittani agree that the whole "safari" mechanic should be removed from the game.

These changes should help prevent new players from being "griefed." Right now highsec is one of the least newbie friendly areas of the game because new players have no way to protect themselves from being griefed. Hopefully a day comes when I no longer have tell new players "join a lowsec or nullsec corp as quickly as possible or you will end up quitting the game."

Banning awoxing? CCP uses it to advertise eve.